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I'm not sure that I have ever seen a more polarizing launch than AMD risin amongst the community especially the community of gamers I think most people agree with me that gamers especially PC gamers and PCM are they are extremely cutthroat extremely opinionated and they are very difficult to budge in their mindset that's what makes Rison so difficult with this launch of because it's something new it's completely different it's something AMD has never really even done before so of course you've got an old mentality here regarding budget and price point and performance per dollar and entry level gaming and now it's made a step into the competitive enthusiast arena and of course AMD has spent a lot of time building quite an army of gamers so gaming is a very valid topic so today I'm going to try to do the best I can at least show you some expectations of what you can look for when it comes to gaming right now on Reisen remember there's a lot of optimization that's going to be coming in the future but I think right now obviously it's a valid point because people are sitting there waiting to click buy on their purchases but they're still not sure if this is for them so let's talk about gaming and let's talk about where the CPU really fits into the market sick and tired of all the RGB craze well don't worry because the EVGA Z 270 classified K is full of all the things that matter like Intel obtain memory ready you to nvme SSD support 11 phase PWM for stable overclocking and a sleek monochromatic design that is perfect for any build learn more by visiting EVGA comm but before we can get into some real time numbers with some real time data to kind of show you guys just some expectations of what to look forward to when it comes to Rison i've got to change out the coolant the coolant back there which some of you said looks like iron brew it looks like an old man's piss it looks like tea whatever it might be it's just distilled water with orange dye in there which I was using to flush out the loop while I was getting a think everything up and running it's all new radiators and stuff but I'm going to be putting it now the new formula of pastel this is the same formula it's actually running a skunkworks right now although that one's green this product right here is derivative directly of the issues I had last year where I talked about color shift this is supposed to help with that greatly so this is also now going to be my guinea pig system where I'm going to be putting pastel in here to see if whether or not the colors do indeed change I will of course be making it orange orange is the color of risin that's why I chose orange especially with the gunmetal case it looks perfect rise in so before we get into the real benchmarks let's go ahead and take care of that enter the magic of editing just like that the new fluid is in there with a kind of orangey red color really matching the whole risin color theme I also heard you guys when it comes to the cables you guys were like those cables art ruining the build so I went ahead through in some cable extensions that I had their paracord they're black and I'll have any custom extensions or custom cable sets for this particular power supply so I couldn't do any of that but anyway let's go ahead and just kind of turn around let's jump in here and let's just play some game that's what this video is about let's play some games and talk about the experience now as I said to enter this video I will be doing all testing at 1080p the high frame rates that you can get with 1080p really do show whether or not a CPU can live up to well a task but anyway if you don't agree with that well there are a lot of other reviewers out there probably giving you the information that you want so complement it with other information I recommend that anyway check out all the reviewers and see what they have to say and try and formulate an opinion now moving forward Here I am running my dual type X Maxwell cards guys these are not pastel cards these are maxwell cards running on obviously the Maxwell architecture overclock 210 mega Hertz pushing into about 1440 and then 400 on the mega of the memory pushing it up as well we also have of course core voltage maxed out and power limit maxed out as well another thing to put out there no AMD to not message me about doing this video AMD did not coax me into doing this I've not been contacted by Intel in fact AMD guys remember they didn't even invite me to the event so yeah it's not like I would bend over backwards anyway to try and appease them during this launch this is 100% obviously my own opinions nobody ever tells me what to say not even Nvidia they don't have that kind of money they can't buy me we're going to go and start here with some Metro last light because this is still a very demanding benchmark for DX 11 I will be showing fps and such on such on the screen on DX 11 titles the x12 stuff unless has a built in FPS counter I can't really show you but we are running 1080p very high settings SSA is indeed on tessellation is on high and we are going to be having motion blur off so we are doing a crazy good stress to the graphics cards and the CPU do during this particular benchmark so anyway here we go graphics cards have definitely ramped up way past their stalks speeds but look at this FPS right here remember guys this is a this is a stress test benchmark this is not just hey let's make it go through some stuff in the game this has a lot of these features of Direct X happening here volumetric lighting you've got all the super sampling turned on all the edge smoothing shadows all that stuff this is designed to make your graphics cards beg for mercy this so seeing this kind of FPS right here I mean over well over a hundred fps during a stress test that's a huge deal I guarantee if you're running an FX CPU with these same graphics cards you would not be seeing any performance anywhere near this SPS is still pretty damn high remember I'm running 144 Hertz panel right here so far I'm not seeing any tearing whatsoever that's why you would run to high-end graphics cards like that's on a 1080p panels if you have a high refresh rate panel and you want to keep those minimums up also to take a look at the CPU usage that's kind of an average between all the SMT s and physical cores so you can see that the game is doing a pretty good job at actually utilizing the horsepower available to it so let's go ahead and take a look at what that benchmark run actually got us if you guys have Metro last light running on your system and compare I mean that's what you should do kind of see whether or not there's improvements to be had compare it with your systems so got an average frame rate of one hundred and thirty nine point one three frames per second and a max frame rate of two hundred ninety point eight seven you can ignore the minimum it's always frame eight or frame nine that's just the way the benchmark starts it has a big stutter in there but I definitely wouldn't call that number crap by any stretch now the heavens free you guys can download heaven and you can do this test yourself again it's a DX 12 qualities an ultra tessellation on normal anti-aliasing that eight X so let's go ahead and run the resolution at 1080 this is 170 to 175 fps it's just still going up it's buttery smooth so you can see it's not like bouncing all over the place typical signs of a CPU bottleneck when gaming is when you have massive dips in frames per second or what they would call that zero point one percent low where the FPS just drops to the floor and comes back real quick that's what gives you this perceived stuttering and terrible gaming experience is the huge fluctuation of FPS but you can see things are extreme well over two hundred and eight to twenty to thirty Wow two hundred and thirty-four FPS there for a second yeah okay so we are smashing heaven no surprise there now Grand Theft Auto 5 is pretty good at testing CPU usage in games because of the fact that it's got this massive world to render Haley Gus we have two times money and RP right now on Dunstan races okay anyway I'm getting sidetracked here so let's take a look at the settings here if we go to graphics 1080p refresh rates at one forty four FX a is on MSA x2 is on and video TX a is on vsync off we want that off population density everything's maxed out very high very high high very high shadow quality very high reflection MSA is on water halt so everything as you can see softest shadows very high settings motion blurs on just a little bit ambient occlusion tessellation yeah so as you can see we are definitely pushing this as far as we can now instead of doing what the benchmark run like everyone does I've got a particular mission that I like to play and that being the actual first mission with Franklin where he has to repose a car alright so keep an eye on SPS up here on the right hand corner you'll get a good idea of what's happening but look how smooth this is this there's no stutters whatsoever this cat's a dick I'm going to go ahead and you know yeah so even with all this stuff just like maxed out look at the FPS yeah of course it's going to fluctuate depending on where you point what's happening around you how big the draw distance is in front of you indoors outdoors the stuff has a huge effect on game but I'm telling you right now while I'm playing this the last thing I'm thinking to myself is oh those pew of smokes either when I'm just zooming through the city right here it this is just so incredibly smooth there's jitter there's no stuttering everything no matter what I do is just I'm not thinking about the frames per second when you have a you've all experiences I'm sure if you have a piece of hardware that's just not performing as good as it needs to for what you are doing it's very noticeable you'll notice dips in fps you'll notice sudden delays in rendering you'll notice hiccups I've not experienced that at all in the last several days that actually had a chance to sit down play games on this and just experience it now yes I know guys this is not just a gaming CPU but that's obviously what we're talking about today this is we already know this is a production monster we already know that this is keeping up with the 59 60 X which is essentially the same thing as a 69 hundred K and that again was over $1000 CPU you cannot deny that this CPU is extremely well rounded all right so this part we got to run from the cops whoa hello keys clearly they have modeled LAPD appropriately no offense to any LAPD officers maybe in the audience my cousin is a FTO for LAPD so yeah I can say that I can say that like I say in the matrix getting on the freeway is suicide when it comes to trying to get away from the cop that maintenance gang cat I mean this right here the perfect example of just how fast a the CPU is actually able to keep up with the world that whoa did he get dizzy I never realized that before if he actually gets dizzy like that ooh yes okay get get Oh he flipped me off do you think you're doing oh man the third time this week what are you looking at into the tree here now do is one of those games that the Vulkan API is just freakin amazing I'm going to turn to the vertical sync off anti-aliasing is on SMA a motion blur is on medium field of view that 90 we have Vulcan everything is on ultra overall quality I'm not running any of the nightmare stuff so you can see the FPS up there in the corner so let's go ahead and resume this game I mean I am absolutely obsessed Vulcan I wish we could get more teams with Vulcan man everybody would be able to just have ridiculously amazing FPS assist if you will look at this FPS appear and I want you to remember I don't even think that this game is currently even using both graphics cards is it no it's not what you're seeing right now is what is one graphics card this is so smooth I owe this big guy so yeah I think upwards of 200 FPS in Doom on ultra is it's pretty acceptable to me now although what you've seen right here is just a small sampling of some games at 1080p with a couple of high horsepower GPUs in SLI which I just want to point out to a lot of people said SLI doesn't work on the 1800 X very well as you can see it's working just fine but I digress the a lot of people have taken the results that some reviewers have shown who had the time to compare it to a KB Lake and have said that this CPU does not hold up to the single thread or IPC's of something like a 7500 K 7600 K 47:17 4790 stuff like that whatever that's fine because that's true this CPU is not as powerful in single thread performance so you're going to get better gaming performance by how much really depends on the game it depends on a lot of factors your graphics cards the clock you're running graphics card at the clock you're running your seat to use that but here's the problem with the proverbial circle-jerk that's happening amongst haters right now is the 7700 K cannot come anywhere near and professional workflow now that professional workflow being all kinds of things virtual machines editing programming live streaming live rendering video encoding the 7700 K although is okay at those it is worse at those than this CP is worse cpu is worse at gaming if that makes sense the 7700 K does a worse job at professional workflow then this cpu does at gaming has a very marginal difference about ten percent between the 7700 K and this cpu even when the CPU is overclocked then what you're going to get on the IPC performance of more mainstream but this cpu gives you something that we needed for a long time which is a sepia that gives you a well-rounded experience this this CPU is like Mario in Mario Kart he's not the fastest he doesn't turn best doesn't jump the highest but dama he's good at all three and that's exactly what Rison is and that's exactly what we needed in this community and I'm really hoping and holding out for optimization improvements across the board I already said that in my last video and it's going to happen it's just it needs to happen quick because time now is AMD's enemy how long this takes to happen is going to determine how much market share AMD can get back with this cpu now the reason why I also did not turn off SMT on this or so simultaneous multi-threading and turning it into a rise in five is because this also has twice the cache of what a rise in five is going to have rather than five is going to have eight megabytes of cache this has 16 so it's still not a very fair comparison that were real life comparisons what you're going to get with rise on 5 so we did have to wait for those ok those are supposed to come in q2 not too long from now we're about to hit q2 pretty soon here but anyway guys this video was just talking to the people who were concerned about buying this CPU because they want to do all kinds of things and maybe start a YouTube channel or maybe start live streaming but they were going to be concerned that their gaming experience was just going to be utter because that's what reddit said it's not it's not it's not it's not the best but it's not crap but it's the best CPU that you can get for 500 bucks right now that can do it all the way I see it a lot of people seem to forget to the 7700 K is also faster then the 6900 k in games but I don't see people throwing together lynch mobs over Intel's price of the 69 hundred K versus the 7700 K maybe people have just gotten used to being bent over backwards by Intel's pricing who knows time will tell guys thanks for watching today's video hope it's answered some questions regarding the gaming stuff this is going to be an ongoing discussion for awhile thanks for watching I'll see you in the next one