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okay so since we've made it past the 900k launch and the 27-hundred launch it's not really anything else coming up but I know us we can kind of get back to this because I just started getting my feet wet ha no pun intended got my feet wet I did it really wrong but this guy that started with EXO see I haven't touched anything like this since I did my Ellen to overclocking video with kingpin where let's face it he set everything up and I just sort of got to pour the ln2 which was fun and all but yeah so I saw the livestream maybe you didn't take that over 150,000 replays on a live stream which is crazy I'm gonna show you guys today kind of the process of doing dry ice cooling not quite as exotic as Ellen - and in my opinion a lot more dangerous because of condensation effect I already killed one of our X - 99 dark motherboards so let's just hope that doesn't happen today vengeance RGB pro ddr4 memory from corsair features optimized peak performance for both the latest intel and AMD based ddr4 motherboards to learn how to bring your computer memory to the next level click the link in the description below so obviously you're gonna need a motherboard and a processor that can be anything you want in terms of overclocking obviously we've chosen the 18 core 79 80 XC because we are going for you know obviously rip GN and rip Paul and all that so the bigger the better and yeah you need a good motherboard designed for overclocking so the X 299 dark is designed specifically for that reason so that's why we're using that we're also using g.skill Trident xenon RGB memory this is also 3600 dims because memory plays a huge part in our 3d mark scores especially when it comes to physics so that's why we're using these but obviously you need a way to keep things cool now this is the pot that I was using this is technically an ln2 pot this is the one kingpin left behind if you guys haven't seen that video go and watch I'll try never to put a link down below now the scores I recently got he said hey not bad that you got those scores on dry ice and the fact that you did it on a pot that's not designed for an 18 core so he just sent me his newest pot design for 18 core and you can tell by looking at it it's obviously a lot bigger this one's a two-piece too so you can get different colors and stuff on it but if we look at the inside you can see just how much more tower there is or individual chambers for cooling two kind of more control the actual base of the pot to give us a good cooling surface area so you can see the whole thing is definitely designed for 18 core which is exactly why he's like hey you want this pot he also sends his keep and cooling heater plate now I already killed a motherboard like I said and the reason why I killed it was condensation I let it get too warm condensation formed got onto into the PCB and I think believe it actually got into the socket and it killed the motherboard but not the CPU it's amazing how robust the CPU is this CPU just keeps on tickin so we're gonna see how far we can push it today but this actually goes on the backside of the motherboard it uses one of these giant thermal pads that he sent with this this is actually a thermal pad look how thick that is that goes on there like that or it can technically go like that and then our heater plate goes on top of it like so so this is a heating element that will heat up the thermal pad which will heat up the backside of the socket which will keep all these components warm and keep water from forming back here that's what killed my last motherboard was water other things you're gonna need obviously is insulation like I mentioned we use a lot of blue shop towels we use Vaseline as I said this is actually actually for Steve you know because I keep beating his scores so he needs the Vaseline but I digress that's besides the point this is actually for insulating the motherboard so it's a messy job when you do XOC you need a way to monitor temperatures because unfortunately the on board motherboard monitoring is not designed for southern Europe it's not in fact if you go below negative 4 on this motherboard the course will show negative for the motherboard will show FF instead of a temperature readout as soon as you cross 0 Celsius so that makes this completely necessary because on the bottom of the pot right here you can see we've got these different holes that are drilled in here these are different places that we can actually monitor temperatures so you've got one right here at the very base of the pot and you can monitor temperatures all around it so I'm sure he's got this in there so that he could have probes all over it making sure you have nice even temperature but you just put a dab of thermal compound in there stick the probe in there bend it up tape it down and then you get your reading at the actual base of the pot which is what we're going to be doing here today let's see what else that appears to be pretty much it so today if all goes well we will take my deleted 79 80 XE we are going to reapply my KP x thermal compound something that Vince designed specifically for sub-zero cooling we are going to apply under the IHS this is this is a dee-lighted 79 80 XE it does not reglued that way I can reapply it as needed we also are going to be reapplying obviously our thermal paste to our pot and that's that the motherboard also comes with this standoff which is kind of nice so you can keep it off the ground voila just like that it's like a little test bench you can get air flow underneath it we will be also doing graphics card on our extreme water cooling which is with just a giant ice tank that's being pumped to the radiator keeping our temperatures as cold as possible our graphics cards will actually run under load about 12c 13c not bad at all but if we don't do that we can't get the temperatures anywhere near we will want them so let's go ahead and set this all up see how how low we can get it and whether or not we can actually get my CPU back up to five point six which is where my current CPU score is on 3d mark and I want to see how far we can get up on single card today okay so this is our setup here we're only got one GPU because I really kind of only focus on single GPU today so here it is we are going to go ahead and we heated up the pot and the reason why we did that is I observed Vince was pretty warm and serve observed Vince do that when he was here he did with a torch because when you apply the thermal pace you because you are gonna go sub-zero you don't want it to sort of Harden in non spread format and you know as you heat a thermal paste it tends to thin out and get a little bit wider and it sort of dissipates and spreads out more between the materials that it's touching so if we went straight to sub-zero that would never spread so we heated that up to about 60 C or a fifty eight point one right here you can see so that sort of represents very similar to what a processor at stock speeds would probably be doing so we should get some pretty good spread of that thermal paste so now we're going to kind of let this cool down just a little bit here and then we're gonna go ahead and put in our acetone oh use acetone hunterson acetone because it doesn't freeze at the temperatures that dry ice will get to if we were using ln2 well the ln2 itself would be our conduit in terms of dropping the temperatures but we use acetone because we needed something for the dry ice to melt into to make cold which the acetone has a much lower freezing point than naming our dry ice which is like negative or minus 78 C or something like that - 80 C it kind of conflict the information on the Internet bottom line is it's pretty damn far below zero but not as cold as ln2 which you can get minus 150 and Beyond and then there's liquid helium which can go all the way to like minus 250 so something ridiculous but anyway we're gonna go and let this kind of cool down here for a little bit and then we are going to see if we can get on single GPU I'm aiming for 5.5 at least hoping for 5.6 here's our ice bucket right here for our GPU we will be doing GPU ln2 slash dry ice but I'm getting a custom card for that so let's go ahead and I just wondered if that would actually lower the temps at all it's at 50 6.9 so what you're looking for here on the initial test as you as you're cooling it down is you are looking for these temperatures and the pot temperatures to be similar because remember we're the software is measuring inside the actual die whereas the pot is measuring the actual metal touching the die so if those two are very similar then we're in a good spot because if they were very different which I've seen before because I used bad thermal compound that wasn't meant for sub-zero then that would tell us that we were not getting a good thermal transfer between the pots and the chip which means instability and potential damage no no that was coming out of here it's the display stopped working in the niche started smoking I mean look look at the wires see it started from inside there so now we have no idea what our loop temp is okay we're gonna keep trying to get this lower so it's gonna take a lot of energy a lot of ice to get the acetone temperature down where we want this to be which is going to be close to negative 50 ish or minus 50 minus 60 cuz think of it like when you first put ice in a bucket the ice will start to melt like that is right there the ice will start melting as it is equalizing and then once it equalizes it'll stay at that temple s energy or in this case dry ice to keep it there so we're using a bunch right now to bring the temp down and then it will be a lot easier to maintain it it's cold up on my hand and ice okay so in all fairness this pot is not exactly meant for dry ice so that two-piece nature of it is probably allowing some of it to get through the sides I meant to tape it I should have taped it and I didn't and so what we're dealing with now is just acetone just everywhere fortunately acetone itself is not really conductive it's now like dripping under the board so now XOC overclocking is really not that much different than regular overclocking now we're basically going to just bump it up incrementally so I'm gonna go straight to 5.2 with all the same settings we just did but my main job during this is actually to regulate temperature here and make that all the temperature stays well within you know safe zones where we want it all right 11,000 787 on the CPU getting there and that was at five point four five point five so we're gonna go and try five point six a number that I had a hard time getting stable before that I really think I attribute to the fact that I couldn't keep the temperatures quite as cold and the pot was probably just getting a little bit overworked five point six crashed disappears five point six is like it's a bit of a wall for me I'm gonna hack up a time hitting it oh I don't think we're gonna be hitting I don't think we're me getting five point six on this I think it needs to be colder to get five six five seven Vince was telling me a kingpin he was telling me that you know this might be a five eight five nine chip but it's gonna need like minus 150 to get there you'd be surprised what temperatures can actually do in terms of stability okay it finished where we were playing eighteen 603 so let's go ahead and compare results online oh yeah I would love it eighteen 603 I'm seeing ones as I've smokes smoked and inhaled so much acetone and dry ice number seven has moved up another one but in a nutshell this is what XOC is like you spend a lot of time tweaking and tuning and figuring out what works and what doesn't and very little time actually running the test at least for me learning like this we also got bored and started putting dry ice in here so such is the life of EXO see I guess now what we have to do is we actually have to warm this up to about minus 20 C before we can shut it off so about minus 25 minus 20 and then we shut it down and take it apart before the condensation can form and destroy our motherboard so yeah with that guys we're gonna go ahead and shut her down thanks for watching I just you guys seem so interested in the live stream that I did I thought I have to do a video about this and since Vincent sent me all new stuff I figured I might as well at least try it out and as you guys saw a game back like two spots two or three spots on single card alone and I think I'm gonna try right now to go ahead and just do like fire strike extreme and fire strike ultra and maybe even time spy and I don't know we'll see but I'm pretty much out of acetone and stuff so I think we're done and rather than prolonging how long it will take me to shut down this system I'm just gonna go ahead and just run like prime95 or something to let it warm up to warm up to minus 20 Celsius yeah crazy right it's at minus 61 right now it's going to be a little while all right guys thanks for watching and as always we'll see you the next one and this guy's still over here sizzling do all this at your own risk seriously I've already killed a mother board and this board is ugly now and this board was drenched in acetone earlier because it leaked out of the pot I know let's frost bit my thumb we almost caught fire you know this caught fire so yeah that's a wrap intro this thing broke on me oh it's smoking oh they're all right that started smoking on me that's really warm it's so cold potato co potato cold potato