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what's up guys Jays $0.02 here and I'm going to be doing another GT X 1080 review you don't gotta throw stuff at me there's been a lot of GT X 1080 reviews around here but you just don't pass up the opportunity to do a classified review when it comes your way so anyway we'll be take a look at that we'll be putting it up against their hybrid card which is right around the same price point and seeing how they compare like badassery on an air cooler and almost just as badassery on water I'm kind of curious to see which is going to reign supreme if you're sick of all the gtx 1080 reviews and you're just like jay would you give it up already enough is enough well I've got something for you too it even comes in three sizes including super absorbent to absorb all your tears what are you doing I start it's time for an upgrade that's little Jays Xbox ah much better how did you even get in here I made a key last time I was here no big deal well I could go for a drink right about now though I kind of feel like you've already done this whole living room thing before no a different channel these are horrible man well you are breaking and entering no not I've witnesses the new defined nano s from fractal design supports full size power supplies full length graphics cards room for a complete custom water loop and heck even room for a couple of freeloaders click the link in the description for more details tractor josh not included we should order pizza in all of its gunmetal black and red goodness here it is right here now red is a kind of always been the color for the classified cards it looks almost more pink ish because it's against the white LED background which is kind of unfortunate but anyway the back plate as you can see is nice and red the grills show through on the back plate but yeah anyway this card right here is no different than really any of the other classified cards they've made in the past it's got a shit ton of power faces 14 plus 3 for the memory so 14 powerfully paid now it's really no different than any of the other classifieds we've looked at in the past here it's got all the features you would expect it's an oversized card because the PCB has to fit fourteen plus three heat power phazon that's why it's so tall I've got to fit all those power faces and chokes on their butt so we're getting extremely clean power delivery which should give us stable overclock nor the power faces aren't about getting more clock it's about getting I said clock guys it's about getting a very clean and stable power delivery to try and keep the maximum speeds as stable as possible if you see any sort of power fluctuation when the core is running at its absolute limit that can lead to crashes so that's why you see all these extra power phases on here it's not about more power delivery because believe it or not the voltage on here and is locked at 1.09 2 volts just like the founders as as far as it will go if you push the voltage to its limit so you're not gonna be seeing the extra power voltage coming out of this thing but anyway there's there's debate on whether or not that seemed and beneficial anyway we'll talk about that later but anyway it does have to eight pin power plugs on here because it has a 245 watt TDP up from the 180 referenced design I'm not going to call it founders it's the reference design from Nvidia now as you would expect from any other classified card that you've looked at in the past it has also got on here harnesses that you can plug in so monitor Hardware monitoring of voltages and things like that so that you're not relying on software which can be fairly inconsistent and inaccurate when you're doing software level voltage monitoring so this does allow you to plug in a harness and hook a voltmeter up to it so that you can monitor that at a hardware level which is the most accurate and of course it's got dual BIOS on here in the second bios of the slave BIOS giving you a more aggressive fan curve out of the box it's not going to try and shut off the fans to keep it nice and cool or quiet we want it cool right in these instances and it's also going to give you additional power limit I believe I'll look at two hundred and thirty percent that's that's a pretty big deal they should have just called this GT X 1080 gargantuan addition because the classified cooler is so freakin huge now the out of the box specs on the GT 104 cords the Pascal is the same as all the other ten 80s but it's got a seventeen hundred and twenty one megahertz base clock and an eighteen hundred and sixty megahertz booze clock identical to the hybrid that we took a look at last week so it's one of the reasons why I'm really interested in comparing this to the hybrid to see how it actually holds up so I think it's kind of it's gonna be kinda like a battle of the Titans only they're not Titans they're they're GTX 1080s but of course it's got the other things that you would expect on there like RGB lighting control there are no lights that light up on the back plate which is kind of a good thing I don't personally like back plates that light up I think it looks a little bit extra flashy and gaudy but you can control the LED color for the logo and the face right here and the nice thing is when the color actually shines through the red on the face really no longer shows like I did green and green shows up just fine blue white it really the red just is flushed out but unfortunately if you're doing a color themed build the red on the backplate is always going to be red so this will obviously look best in a red build but I guess it's up to you whether or not the red is an issue but the last thing to mention spec wise here too is this is this doesn't have any sort of factory boost to the memory speeds it's five thousand six so ten thousand twelve effective out of the box but of course we've already seen that the g5 x is overclocking very very well you can expect to be able to push this up to about eleven thousand with no problems whatsoever alright enough chatting let's go ahead put this thing through the paces it's compared to the founders and the hybrid and then let's see just how well it does of course we're gonna put the Titan in there but that's just because I mean I don't know that's not even really like a real benchmark on this just like let's just take ridiculous and compare it to realistic but anyway yeah let's do it guys go EVGA 1080 classified does it live up to the standard well out of the box settings it's really like any other GT X 1080 they all pretty much go to at least 2000 megahertz out of the pucks which is just crazy to say last year a graphics car that could do 2,000 megahertz out of the box was kind of unheard of but we're there but what really differentiates them is the coolers because as they start to warm up the core clocks will start to come down slightly now right now heaven has been running here for quite a while and we're sitting at 1974 megahertz at 70 C so that's why I included the hybrid benchmarks in the in the charts because they're fairly comparable pricing there's about twenty or thirty dollars difference between the two cards and they have two very different approaches obviously the hybrid is built on the for the wind PCB with a hybrid water cooler on there and the classified being a little bit bigger card with a little bit bigger fans and the standard for the wind card and bigger heatsink but this has extra features in there like the hardware monitor probes for things like voltage it's got 14 plus 3 power phase versus the 10 plus 2 on the for the win and it's kind of curious as to how this would stack up against the hybrid card considering water cooler versus a giant air cooler out of the box the they both ramped up to the same core clock of 2025 but this one here obviously as it reached 7dc it's running at 7 DC right now this one came down to nineteen hundred and sixty two megahertz which is still 100 megahertz faster than the advertised boost clock so I wouldn't call that thermal throttling well I'm gonna pump the brakes here for just a second because I know someone out there just got rustled a little bit because what I just described many people would say no dude that's actually thermal throttling why are you being such a shill well actually what I just described is dynamic frequency control it's actually quite different than thermal throttling thermal throttling according the definition on overclockers calm and even semiconductor manufacturers will tell you that thermal throttling is a safeguard when TDP and temperatures exceed rated limits in order to keep itself from damaging any components it will slow the core and the voltage down to safe limits what I just described at 70 C is clearly not causing damage to that Jeep you nor is the TDP exceeded it's nothing more than a dynamic frequencies control to keep things as cool as possible so in the terms of definition of thermal throttling that is not what is taking place so y'all gotta stop throwing around that terminology man it's it's getting people confused like bottle necking and future-proofing anyway editing J is is done ranting let's go ahead and get back to the show now all the settings you saw on those benchmarks are out of the box between the hybrid and the for the win and the founder's there is absolutely no difference whatsoever it's it take it out of the box plugged it in didn't touch a damn setting and there you go but if you were to take the fan curve and just add a little bit more percentage to it because it's extremely conservative it's super quiet fan is running at 50 percent right now it makes no noise because of the ball bearing design and ACX coolers you can get more performance out of it with acoustics still not being intrusive especially considering I can't hear the thing right now in an open test bench in a case it's only going to be even quieter so you can get more performance and have the core clock step down less by adding more fan curve and what happened at that point was this was actually beating the hybrid card at the same frequency which I thought was kind of strange considering you would think a GPU 104 core running at 2025 versus another one running at 2025 with the exact same memory speed of 5,000 six out of the box or 10012 effective you would have thought that they would have been identical results but the hybrid was losing to the classified even though the classify was a little bit hotter at the same speed so I don't know what kind of voodoo magic they're doing here but yeah whatever it is it's working so anyway I'll be doing another video specifically about fan curve only fan curve no power target or anything because I've done overclocking videos and I've shown how bumping up the fan curve can help with dynamic clock adjusting but I've never shown how much gains you actually get by simply messing with a few clicks of a program to make your graphics card perform better so that's actually going to be the next video look for that on Friday I'm actually I've actually already filmed that video and that's going to be going out Friday so I think there will be some good information to be had there and that's cool thing about this is that applies to any graphics card with a fan so doesn't matter if it's Team Green Team red whatever if it has a fan it will benefit from from adjusting the fan curve but specifically in that video I plan on a just comparing blower style coolers like on the reference cards versus these open-air style coolers with the multiple fans and seeing do you get the same benefit with these you know multi fan configs versus a blower cooler so look for that now the last thing to talk about here is voltage because I think some people might have been expecting to see additional voltage available to the core on the classified cards but I'm here to say that the voltage is still the same as founders voltage actually doesn't go higher than 1.09 - and that's if you bump up the voltage actually right now it's running at 1.0 for 3 and the core clock is at 962 as we already talked about so 1.09 2 is the hard volt limit for GP 104 and if you go to the plus 100 you might get there if you overclock the graphics card to the max frequency stable you will probably never see 1.09 2 if you stay around safe ranges around the 2950 2000 range you'll probably never see that voltage so I've talked to some folks in the industry and they've all pretty much said the same thing GPU 104 or Pascal FinFET design period is not benefiting from the extra voltage in fact it's kind of getting harmful in some cases where it actually destabilizes the core a little bit and doesn't give you any extra core clock whatsoever so it's kind of interesting though that a card is based on all of these additional hardware voltage monitoring stuff you know 130 percent power limit right now we're sitting at 78% of that power limit and yeah it's it kind of makes me wonder how much benefit there is to all those features if you can't push the voltage any farther but again I'm not a modern I don't go in there and start soldering stuff so I really don't know I just don't know I've seen some mods floating around out out there already but I'm wondering if you guys would buy this card and then start like doing solder mods and things like that who knows it's maybe some of you guys are I'm not brave enough to do it you guys do it report back to me I'm not going to do it and one last thing obviously I did change LEDs to green because again green testbench but it is RGB so you can change the LEDs to any color that you want to match your build which it's kind of funny though considering it's got the red grills in there and the red grill boots into the back plate so if you're doing green like this and you're looking at it in a standard case you're still going to see red in the back plate which is kind of unfortunate in my opinion I think the color scheme they put on the for the win with the gunmetal II color and it's black that would look better on the classify to my opinion rather than the red again that's my subjective hat but I digress bet you guys thought we were gonna make it through a whole video without getting digressed upon whatever anyway guys time to go thanks for watching here skunkworks v4 0.62 or whatever it is is very soon I've almost got all the parts I need to start that build and I kind of feel like a dirty whore but I yeah we're going with too tight Nexus I know I know I know I'm so fickle I can never make up my mind but you guys told me it's a it's skunk works it's the centerpiece of the channel you gotta put the best in there yeah so we're gonna do tight next to ASL I could put a third one in there and just call it a PhysX card title probably pissing people off hmm