Gadgetory

what's up guys Jase $0.02 here and I'm asked all the time about loop order and loop preparation and all that stuff because I tell you guys a lot about radiators and pumps and this and that but I don't think I've actually done any sort of video where I specifically talk about loop preparation and where to put your parts and how to kind of plan for it I've showed you build logs where it's kind of buried in there but today we're gonna use my new build here this is my personal rig breathe it's gonna be bring into the house so I figured it's a perfect opportunity to show you how I kind of prepare for things that way I try and limit the amount of surprises I get along the way but inevitably a surprise will appear guaranteed do you want to be cooler you want to be more desirable well you're in luck because right now you can own your very own Jase to scent swag and immediately be the cool kid on the block max out your sex appeal by following the link down below so when I'm preparing for my loop it's important to make sure that I have kind of the main components in there so I sort of know where things are going to line up because you can't trust your eyeballs so you can't just look at it eyeball it and be like oh yeah that's where it's gonna line up so at the very least we have to get GPU GPUs in there and motherboards now for this build I'm gonna be using my X 299 rampage 6 extreme extremely overkill honestly for what we're doing but you know that's okay not may the decision actually go with X 299 on this and not Z 370 like I originally planned because I'm probably gonna have to nvme SSDs in here and just the PCIe limitation with two graphics cards wanting 16x in both of those for Gen 3 PCIe I don't want to go through PCH I want all of my stuff to be communicating directly with the CPU I'm sure the difference is negligible when you're dealing with PCH PCH lanes but I just figured why not so we're gonna go and put our rampage in here now this is a it says not an inverted case like you see usually you see either like this or like this but in this case it's actually sideways like that but because we are gonna have a radiator on both the bottom and the front we need to get our components in here so we can at least start to measure distances because I'm gonna be running the PE series radiators from ek water blocks and these are 40 mil rads so they're a little bit thinner than standard 45 which is nice as a standard it's usually 30 45 60 kind of 15 millimeter increments but this is a 40 mil which is gonna give us a little bit more clearance once you put that on there once you get fans front and rear you can see it starts to fill up really quickly now I'm not gonna be using a 240 I'm gonna do two 360s but let's go ahead and get things prepped and then we'll start kind of planting where things are going to go so here's the motherboard and the graphics cards in place and actually they go a lot farther down than I was expecting so I am gonna be running to Titan XPS in this system right here not Titan Voltas if you guys want to know why check out my last video and like I said I'm not waiting for any new graphics cards if no one's come great otherwise here it is but as you can see it goes down much lower than I had initially anticipated that it was going to do which meant that with the 40 mil rad right here initially what I wanted to do was I was gonna have one horizontal it's gonna be a 360 going the length right and I thought that maybe I could then use the bracket here and do a horizontal pump which I hadn't done in a while but as you can see there is just not enough clearance for that the sad part is if I was using a slim rad like a 30 mil there probably would have been enough and I'm not gonna sacrifice cooling capacity for the sake of mounting this horizontal so that's a little bit disappointing I could probably come up with a custom bracket nope that won't clear the glass so that's a perfect example of why we do this now something else I'm gonna do here in terms of prepping this and also - I don't have all my parts of this I don't have the monoblock yet for this board I'm doing a monoblock so we were replacing this heatsink with a single block that does both steep you and the vrm delivery obviously remove water cooling the graphics cards but I'm doing two 360s and the problem with the front right here you can see it split and my first complaint about this case is although it has all of these different adjustable points I got all these screw holes so you can move them in you can move them out same thing with this we can slide it forward and backwards because there's several different mounting points they should have just given you two 360 brackets like this because this split right here means that I can't actually mount fans on this side of the bracket and then the radiator on this side giving me more clearance this way you can with this one fortunately though is you can swap them the other thing that kind of stinks I was working with this anodized surface you can see it like grabs your skin and little micro scratches they always buff out but because this is a sandblasted dusted anodized finish it's easy to scratch and so you want to be careful so these two come out same with this one here although this is a single piece so what we're gonna do here is we're gonna move this one up front because it's a single bracket I can mount the fans on one side of this and the radiator on the other and sandwich them together through the screws and we can actually mount it ended this way because I want the fans on this side and because you've got these different holes like I said we can move it in and out so if you wanted to move this bracket in and go with a fat rat on the front and then have less you know space right here you can do that that's what I love about this case is everything is just so well thought out in terms of adjustability I just wish they had given us two of these because the way now that you have to make it mount as I'll show you how you have to do it on the bottom it to space it and because of what I have to do now is why I don't have enough clearance to actually make it work like I wanted so that'll go right there what we can do now is we take these two brackets and we need to flip them over upside down because again because we can't mount our fans on this side because you'll see you never had that space in the middle we flip it over so it's flat like this one was and then we go ahead and line it up with where we need it so this one I think right here was where it was even the hardware on this case is premium you got these spring-loaded thumb screws with your tend to have a retention system so they don't fall out or anything like that yeah we go I think that's how it needs to go so we take our 360 right here you can see now the holes will line up so we can get four holes per bracket but we can't slide it any farther forward even though we have a screw right there because then we'll interfere over here so that's exactly why we are doing this test run now so I know exactly what I can fit in here now obviously the 40 mil will fit with these fans but there was no chance whatsoever of getting the horizontal mounting there now if we take my to my 240 here which represents my 360 because of the thickness we can actually mount this here like this because we know the fans are gonna go on this side but now we have to do a test fit of whether or not this is gonna fit how I want with the height and I don't think it's going to I don't think that's gonna work at all I'll show you why all right so we take into account the height that we have to clear here remember there's still another 5 millimeters on top of this that has to be cleared I'm gonna put this little guy on here just for good measure so he can be like that's the height we have to clear right there and as you can see because of this this is kind of a terrible bracket in II case I don't like this bracket because look how much higher it mounts a mounts and almost in the middle of the 200 to 120 millimetres spot right there so if it was mounted low like this then I could net I could probably mount it on the second fan slot and have it fit but as you can see if we line this up right so obviously it's not gonna clear down that way like not even close and I can't bring the bracket up any higher we're already on the top slot so if I line this up and say let's pretend that was the middle slot as you see it's just a little bit taller than it needs to be and I don't want this to protrude out the top I mean maybe if we were going for that diesel car look and it would look like a smokestack but that's not what we want so I have two options here go with a shorter tube which I think would look really dumb with how high this is raised up right because you would have a real short reservoir tube right here but then you have all this weird space and bracketry happening so I don't like that I don't like that at all so what I think I'm going to do is I'm gonna test mount this radiator to this and I'm gonna see if I have enough room to actually mount it on this wall right here which I would I think would be neat mounted to the radiator but they just have it's such a terrible this bracket is terrible I mean I get that it's Universal and it's mean to have a bunch of different things that can mount to it DeeDee sees and and whatnot but the fact that they force this to be mounted horizontally I don't like it I don't like I haven't this is the first time it's actually become a problem so it's like we actually have just enough width right here to be able to actually mount this to the back wall and still have it be fairly even with the motherboard cuz what I like to do is I kind of like what doesn't matter whether it's turned 90 or vertical the normal way is I like to kind of Center the reservoir and the pump on the motherboard it's one of those asymmetrical things that just it really bothers me if it's not but then what I'm noticing is that puts this reservoir right in the path of this tube right here so height wide this height wise this is going to work with why is this is going to work but I think now what I have to do is I meant to flip this red over so the fittings are on the bottom which is not ideal in terms of bleeding air out of the system it's better to have them on top the way the air can actually travel out it's not impossible but what I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna flip this over because I think I could 90 degree fitting out and then have it Bend going over the top of this rad running to over here the idea to is I'm gonna have one these tubes coming out and going right in to the block right here for the graphics card so it's all gonna line up really well but I think that's what I'm gonna end up having to do here and that's ultimately what the layout is gonna end up looking like and then for something like the radiator is they're not all the same sizes right would you ever want to have like a smaller radiator in there or no no because I'm running two graphics cards I need to have as much as much as I can get which is why I'm running this thickness right so this one's this one's gonna know talk to me about the thickness now you guys know how I got this on my lip no good tell me about this if I flip this radiator over and I do ninety two you know ninety degrees fittings coming out of it well just enough height to come up and across this way and one can go from the from the pump right the out actually it's in so I'll probably reverse it will flow backwards see that's that's the stuff you gotta think about that makes us kind of tough it's amazing how fast this case fills up with spelling people get mad they call it a case it's a chassis yes it's a chassis is not a case fucking canvas I'm a kind of experimenting for a little while here first I tried to flip the radiator over and put it on the bracket side to push it this way to get more room the problem is it doesn't have enough overhang to wear the fitting actually cleared the bracket so the adapter that goes into the radiator right here actually impacted on this I actually thought about because these are just bent over actually thought about putting this in a vise and bending that back to me more clearance but I can't because of the the retention screws and these are pressed into the metal the the sleeve for this is pressed into the metal and trust me on the terry crews build because we had the extra sleds if you notice I took the sleds out for the hard drives nvme SSDs only in this build so I'm not going to need any state of power or say the cables for any of that I want to be clean they don't come out very easy I tried with pliers and advice and everything I could not get it to come out because it's a it's pressed in there good so that wasn't it wasn't an option I also tried seeing if I maybe flip this bracket around this way and see if I could mount it on the bottom rail you know fan right here but as you can see it still it still impacts we're off by about a good four millimeters there so that's not gonna work I think mounting it on the back wall is definitely gonna be an option one of the things that kind of sucks though about in a build like this is there's only so many ways you can really make it work without doing custom fabrication of sorts and so it starts to look like other builds that are out there there's a really clean black and yellow build out there I'll put some links below to pictures of it that although good for inspiration and a fantastic build I'm trying to avoid it looking too much like that one the problem is reducing almost identical parts in that build and so I just don't want to I don't want to fall into that trap where it just looks like someone else's build but that's the problem is on something like this you forced into kind of a certain fit now he actually found a way to mount this lower and I couldn't see in those pictures how he ended up doing it I think he might have made a custom bracket but I still think the back wall is the way that I'm gonna do it which is how I did it with Terry Crews is build as well I'm also toying around with some custom ideas here about disassembling this entirely taking the back motherboard tray off here and wrapping this in carbon fiber the like the 3m die knock like the matte carbon fiber because again this is meant to be an automotive theme I could do it with like this piece right here just some accents and stuff because I feel like this has a very I don't know sort of a Koenigsegg feel although Koenigsegg isn't made out of steel I'm also gonna probably do green fittings because the green anodized fittings from primo chill that compression fittings I like to use match the hardware perfectly so I think I want to do that now I've seen some builds where people will actually put the reservoir on the front the problem is going with a tall res like this again I like the tall reservoirs I really want the long one makes it yeah and if I let's put this right here with this stupid bracket as you can see it just simply is not gonna clear so I feel like we're exhausting our options here and it's still just looking an awful lot like mounting it to the back wall is going to be necessary but that's what I'm gonna end it because I think that that's how I'm gonna have to do this here is I'm going to mount it like this I'm gonna have the fittings on the bottom of this red and it's probably gonna come up and go over top because I want them to be visible I could totally run it underneath but I want the fittings and the tubing to be visible haven't decided yet exactly what fluid I'm gonna run I might do the view I might do Mayhem's I don't know I'm I'm gonna kind of decide that as I go but I want a lot of this space to be filled with tubing and stuff so I'm gonna go guys thanks for watching let me know if you have any suggestions for this because I want this done I'd like it to be done in December don't see any reason why it can't be nothing incredibly custom on this except for the cables damn cables cables are gonna be hard alright guys we're gonna go thanks for watching and as always I'll see you next time you