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How to bend PETG tubing

2015-12-22
what's up guys JC cents here we're going to do a video that I've been asked to do a bajillion times like literally a bajillion I counted you guys have been asked me how to do hard line tubing tutorial and I didn't want to just take random tube and start bending it for the sake of a tutorial I want the tube to go in something so I decided that we need to go ahead and do an upgrade to coconut monkeys computer because if you guys remember I did a tutorial about how to install a basic water cooling kit and we use the Alpha cool loop and unfortunately alpha cools tubing and radiators are the radiators good it's just it has a ton of flux in there and as you can see the clear fluid and clear tubing has turned a lovely shade of aquamarine we don't want that so we're gonna go ahead and do a hard-line tube upgrade to his system and I figure would show you guys how to do it in the meantime today I'm going to show you guys how to do some hardline bending tutorials but speaking of tutorials if you 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link in the description go and do it and become smarter now like literally be smarter than me not hard alright so how to bend hardline you know we'll start with this there are two types of hardline tubes out there there is PT G and there is acrylic both of them have their pros and both of them have their cons I'm not going to get into that I've already done a video on that go and check it out click the little magnifying glass on my channe and just look up PE TG and you will find any video about hardline now PT G and acrylic both have their pros and their cons if you guys want to know more about that check out the video I did on that will keep this video a watchable length and not get too in-depth on that but basically PT G is just plastic and fused and kerlick which makes it much more flexible as you can see it's not going to crack it's easy it's easier to work with it melts and bends at a lower temperature I say melt but really that's what you're doing when you bend it as you're melting it and you're keeping its shape by inserting some sort of a silicone insert which is what we've got right here I've got two of these one is sanded down one is knots and basically that's just because there's some tolerances between the two I like the etg because it's also very prone to not breaking and shattering which right there if I did that with acrylic would have broken in fact I've got proof of that right here because you can see that these are like all chipped and broken on the end because if right now if I was to do that a piece would probably fly off hit coconut monkey in the face then he will sue me and my insurance rates will go up he'll become rich and that's not the point of today's video but when it comes to bending there are some tools that you're going to need I like to keep things really really simple and basic some guys like to do the saw method monsoon mm PC tech a lot of companies sell tools that you guys can use to cut this stuff but I like to keep it really really simple this right here is a cobalt I got it from Lowe's obviously because it's cobalt this is a two pipe cutter and they have different types of blades you can put in here but I just wouldn't got this it's like $9.99 it's a pipe cutter and it's the same thing you would use to cut copper pipe it works on ptg you can't use it on acrylic though in fact let me demonstrate why let me grab a piece of acrylic here because I don't really use this stuff anymore if I try to put this on acrylic the way it works is you tighten this knob down you turn it you tighten it you turn it the problem is the moment you start to crank on it and cut it it looks like okay we're going to cut yeah we're cutting the problem is once you start to crank it it's going to crack did you hear that and this is how unfortunately what it looks like acrylic is very very similar to glass and it's like a plastic glass if you won't fact acrylics not even technically a glass or a plastic it's more like a glass so anyway that's why we don't do that but PE TG anyway I've got a piece of PPG right here somewhere that's also acrylic I've got so much cylindrical stuff hanging out in here don't ask why anyway this is PE TG and one of the ways that you can tell the difference is by looking at it from the side PT G has a slight bluish tinge to it where kerlick is going to look very clear like glass but I like to use this because it makes cutting a lot simpler you can mark it with like a pin or I like to put a scratch where I want it where I want to cut and then just use this to cut it and then to clean up the inside I just use a step bit because one of these steps is perfect for the diameter of the tube just turn it by hand like that and it will just shave the PE TG very simple part of the problems with PT G though versus acrylic is it's very soft and the problem is if you try and get one of those those outer tools that a monsoon actually sells when work will cut the inside and the outside by just kind of turning it the problem is that chatters and the blade will skip and jump you don't get a very clean cut so that's why I like to use these two tools this is a very clean outer bend this is a very clean outer cut this is a very clean intercut and that's what you want other thing you're going to need obviously a heat gun this is a very cheap Wagner I would recommend spending a couple of extra bucks and getting the one that has the big base so that it will sit on your desk and not flop and move around on you and it's weighted that would be actually a lot easier but really this is just a hairdryer on freaking steroids that's all it is and it gets really hot well well in fact right now we'll show you how the methods for bending how to know when the temperature is right for bending and then what happens when you overheat it or under heat it because that's the most common problem I see is people bend too soon it's not hot enough when they Bend and they get flat spots and that looks terrible the flipside is when it gets too hot then it bubbles and blisters and that's obviously terrible too so let's go ahead hook this stuff up and then I'll show you a little bit do some of the bending and then what we'll do here is we'll kind of do a sort of a build montage you guys know I like to do of upgrading coconut monkeys PC because I kind of want this to be a twofer make his PC look better and show you guys how to do it in the mean time so let's get started all right so I just set my gun up like this this one's kind of tippy be careful this end gets very very hot as you can see things have melted to it including some of the skin from my thumb you guys don't want that very very hot things are hot but anyway there are most heat guns have two speeds some of the higher-end ones have three actually temperature so you got a medium and a high let's go ahead and do this actually let me take a piece of the acrylic break that off right here and I'm gonna show you guys what it looks you see how easy I just broke that off I mean literally that's this is one of the reasons why we don't use acrylic that much anymore in the modding world once it once it gets any sort of a crack or a stress fracture a leak is kind of scary I'm going to show you what it looks like when it starts to melt I'm gonna put this on a medium heat if I go high where this turns red-hot it's guaranteed to to pretty much go from perfect temperature to overheated instantly sometimes if I want to get things going I'll put it on high to get it kind of warmed up quickly and then I'll move it down to medium that way we don't get too hot too quickly but let me go ahead and show you what it looks like if you try and bend it without an insert inserts are absolutely necessary that you have to have it if you don't have it then things are going to fail let me show you what it looks like if you try and do it without an insert okay so the temperature is pretty much right for bending if I had an insert in there but if I try and bend it without anything in there you see what happens it's very much like what happens to a garden hose if you don't have water in it you guys know if you bend a garden hose without the water on what happens the hose this collapses but the one with the water is on the hose can't collapse because it the the space is filled this is also how men Durrell bent pipes for exhausts and things like that happen so as you can see this piece would now be ruined there's no there's no salvaging that we're going to move on to another piece here let me show you what happens if when the temperature isn't right because that's also a very common thing that we've seen before so I'm going to go ahead and do a bend here towards the end where it's not hot enough and we're going to show you what that looks like so because one of the most common things I get is Jay this is happening I don't know why so if you can see that the result of a certain imperfection when it comes to temperature and you can say oh okay that happened to my my bend because it was too cold or too hot that's going to be the most useful thing you're going to get today because I'm not going to be able to show you how to properly measure or how to determine where to do your bends because I'll be honest I don't measure at all everything I do is by eyeball and I'm usually right the first time it's more or less like an art I mean how does an artist paint their picture and just get it right because I just do and I know that's not exactly I just do so therefore you should do that's like the worst tutorial in history so that's why I'm trying to show you some of the techniques and then maybe you can develop you know your own just do it Nike mentality when it comes to this anyway I own I key like $18,000 now or something like that one thing to that's really important is you'll notice here that I'm always rotating it we don't want to get it too hot so I'm always rotating it and I'm moving back and forth because a common issue people do too is they only heat one spot but the thing is for the bend radius to be nice and smooth and even you've got to have all the area along it also at the right temperature otherwise you'll have variants in there where some of it cannot bend some of it can the outer portion of the radius has to be usually the hottest portion other because it's got the most stretch involved where the inside is going to be kind of crushing on itself so once I start to do my bend - I'll heat up the outer radius more than the inside what I'm also doing - is I'm kind of letting the weights of the tube I don't want that to fall in my lap I want kids maybe another kid anyway I don't I want that the weight of the silicone insert and the tube to just kind of be dangling on it that way I can tell when it's starting to become soft enough to bend because I think if you've ever tried this before you start to ask yourself like is it hot enough I can't tell and they start trying to wiggle it then you're Bend radius might be off in the wrong spot just lots of things that can go wrong but you can see now it is starting to bend a little bit right here see that just a little bit not much I know if the camera can get that but it's starting to bend right there I'm gonna keep rotating rotating rotating if I want to get a little bit more intense heat I can move it closer move it farther away I'd rather use the distance I am to the nozzle of the heat gun to control my temperature rather than turning the gun hotter that's usually not the way we want to do things here a few moments later okay so as you can see here it's starting to become malleable now and sometimes I've seen some folks go okay this is the right time to start bending and then they just start to bend well do you see what happened right there that kink that you're seeing right there is a result of two things one it's a result of being a very tight radius at too cold of a temperature and then moving it too fast so this happens more so with acrylic than ptg but ptg does it as well where we were too cold and we tried to bend and that's what happened the other thing that would happen too is right here you would probably get a smooth radius and then a flat spot on either end because again it would crush this is obviously a piece of trash now this is I think a lot of people sent me pictures of this asking why did it do that what happened what happens when it's too hot well let me show you acrylic acrylic is probably the most dramatic result when it comes to being too hot because it blisters up pretty bad let me going to show you that we're going to put this one on red hot to show you guys because I think a lot of people they're in pace they just want to start doing their bends they want to get it done and they really start to to force their their pipe a little bit to hardship you know what I'm saying there you can take that however you want but anyway this is what too hot looks like all right so you're looking at this and you're going okay it's very flexible yeah my radius is fairly smooth I make a little bit of a flat spot right there but that's because I didn't heat it that much it's still very malleable so you're sitting here letting it cool you know blowing on it don't also don't dip it in water if you dip this in water it will it will just spider crack every word so you want to sit here and hold it in the position you want it to be in while you're letting it cool you can't blow on it a little bit blow on your pipe as you do you can see it starts to get as it cools it gets more more stiff and rigid trying to burn your lips it sounds like a terrible tutorial about something else new you go okay yes I've got my bend and you're like I can't get my tube out sometimes you and I might to put little bit of water in there you twist it as you twist and pull and then you go oh man and that's what you get you get these wort looking things on there that's an example of overheated acrylic now you get the same thing with ptg the difference is the ptg bubbles are bigger they're much more bigger to get more wavy rather than just being a straight up blister like that but also that not only do you create these blisters you also weak in that spot where it can just snap right off now it may look like I actually pulled really hard on that I really didn't but you notice it broke right where the blisters are you see that so you create a weak spot to when you overheat it you create extra brittleness so let's say this is a good piece right here and something else you may have noticed is as it was bending I was flipping it like this and then I was doing the inner radius and I was doing the outer radius and I was kind of doing that because as it's starting to bend I'm just kind of slowly work in that angle so I get the radius that I want you notice I'm not using a bending aid where some guys will take like a tube and they'll Bend on the tube it can collapse on itself and create a perfect 90 or 45 or whatever angle you want without having to worry about you know going against something that sometimes you see people say use a toilet paper roll and or something round like a pole or a desk leg I don't do any of that this is just the way I do it just freehand freeform like this but as you're starting to get the bend you're going to want to start working the inside of the radius the outer radius more than the inside like I said because that's where it's stretching the most and then eventually you can get a very clean 90 degree angle that's pretty much it that is all I do when I do my hard line tubing so let's go and do this now let's get this system drained and then let's make this thing look a lot better than it does now transition you you whatever things in it looks a hell of a lot better than it did before obviously with all of that stained tubing having a piece of that to me right there this this tubing was clear when the when the build was done member we did this back in June of 2014 so it's been a year and a half and this is what happened but not only did the tubing you know leach a little bit of plasticizer this color is coming from the fact that the Aqua our alpha cool radiator was not flushed which is entirely my bad normally you would take vinegar or some sort of like a system prep and then you would clean the system with a with an acid of some sort and you wouldn't get this stuff in fact all of that crud is sitting here in this bowl and you'll see that up close this is what's in radiators most of the time unless it's a you know brand that tends to clean their radiators before shipping alpha cool does not so make sure you clean your radiators but bending the tubes and stuff is really not that big of a deal what you it it's like anything else the more you practice easier it gets this is the only Bend that we did that we ended up not using everything else was the first time attempt but that's because I've been doing this now for so long that it's pretty easy but anyway that's pretty much it just make sure you keep an eye on your temperatures don't try and bend it when it's too cool keep an eye on it before it gets hot it can not only modulate the temperature of by turning your heat gun either on medium low or high but you can also vary the temperature by how far away from the gun that you are and make sure you heat up the sides of where you're going to bend to otherwise you get flat spots or it will just it'll start to be a nice smooth radius and then it will just kind of sharpen out really bad and it look terrible if it's not you know heat if heats not evenly applied all the way around where the radius is going to be but other than that I hope this videos helped you guys like I said I know it's not the best tutorial with hardline tubing but down in the comments once you guys tell us about your builds if you follow me on Twitter send me some pictures of your hard line tubing builds and if you guys are using soft tubing and you want to avoid looking like this in the future then definitely make sure to kind of give hard line tubing a try it's not it's easy it's just cutting the tube and plugging it in you know and then clamping it down as soft tubing is but the end result definitely a whole lot better anyway time to get out of here guys thanks for watching today's video a little bit longer than usual but that's okay I want you guys to learn something follow on social medias and all that stuff and don't forget check out Linda console and you guys can learn how to do really cool stuff and maybe even this in the future anyway time to get out of here see you in the next one
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