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okay so I'm too stupid to figure out a problem on my own here and in all of the troubleshooting I've ever done whether when I worked in IT or not I can't figure out what's causing this particular problem to happen fans of the original half series cases from Coolermaster can rejoice because the half is back and better than ever featuring 200 millimeter RGB front vans tempered glass side panel and ample airflow the H 500 P is a worthy successor to the original high airflow series learn more about the new cooler master H 500 P by heading to Coolermaster calm here's what we're experiencing right now and you know what I'm gonna I'm just I'm agnostic when it comes to PC tech I love all of it and I'm gonna call out the problems when they exist a lot of people have looked at Rison and the whole platform is being the holy grail to PC gamers and PC enthusiasts because competition and blah blah blah Intel sucks Intel corrupt blah blah blah rides n ain't perfect okay Rison is not like the golden child it still has its level of problems that i can't figure out what's happening here so we've got two identical Titan X peas on here and we were doing the video about the reshooting of the 8700 k versus the horizon 1700 X when I was fixing those errors and I noticed that this system wouldn't boot in fact Nick even put up a picture talking about you know troubleshooting its letters that are a few days ago so here's what we're experiencing when we take this car this specific Nvidia Titan X right here we get a failed post at b2 and the VGA is lit up now here's why this video is important and the reason why I'm making it here not only because I can't figure out why and you'll see the process of elimination here trying to figure this out this could lead to people thinking their graphics card is bad when in fact it's not let me show you what I mean so we've got this card over here that's working just fine on the Intel system right now and I have gpu-z up because I want to check the BIOS oh I want to see what the BIOS version is on these cards because they all though I got both of these from from Nvidia it was well after launch and I don't know if they came out of the same batch so I know that there was a BIOS update or not so if we look at our gpu-z we got a bios version 8 602 1204 so I'm curious now this has the same BIOS and here's the reason why I'm pointing out that it's this this is important because somebody who just assembled their new computer would see a VGA code and freak out and by the way we do have the latest bios on this horace bard we did that when we were doing the risin vs. 8700 k if we take this card off of the test bench here set it over here we take the card that says we need to jump this make sure it's all out okay so we take the card that's currently on our 8700 k system I love how the power is off and everything get the RGB there we go so here it is the same card you just saw working um now I'm gonna take it over here stick it on this system and we expect it to work right because if it's a bad GPU that is what we're dealing with here I need more length on that why is more length always seem to be my problem so this card we know it's working because it was working over there so I'll let that turn on that's fine we're already expecting that no one would be surprised you'd be like well you switch the card and it's working what's what's the deal here what I'm gonna show you now there we go well see how it's working over there I should expect I check this out if I take this card which was not working on the rise end system and we plug it in over here you'll see that it works fine so what I want to check right now with it working on the Intel system is what the BIOS version is because we've got to it two identical cards from the manufacturer one works on one system but not the other we've already updated the BIOS over here so we know it's not a BIOS problem I have never experienced I don't know how many years I've been building computers I spent nearly 10 years in IT and I've been doing YouTube now for five I have never experienced a situation where a card will work perfectly fine in one system but not another this one's doing it's new setup with hardware because we just blend the hardware in cycling now okay so if we go over here and download GPZ I think I already did download you can see all right maybe I did maybe I didn't so look at the version it's identical 8 602 1200 for its identical versioning but I so I cannot for the life of me figure out why one graphics card will work in one and not the other and some might say well J you don't have it screwed down right it's moving is this making people scared doesn't make you scared Nick not really not really you've seen enough now that you've been here to see that it doesn't faze me not as fragile as you see yeah that's not the problem we'd guaranteed that so what I'm gonna check here now is I'm just kind of curious if other graphics cards will do the same thing so I just grabbed a random 1080 not a TI it's just a 1080 I want to see if this will do the same problem because I actually lost about an hour of troubleshooting when I when I did hunt and I thought it was me who broke it well because he tried to boot it with no memory and Rison is just like what it's working you don't touch it because it's super picky especially with the memory right you need to receded all the way there I'm curious if - and what do you think I'm grabbing a bit geez this guy I'm curious to see any other graphics cards will give us a boot issue because this particular rig although I've had the rise in stuff since way march/april you know I don't need that yeah good I haven't actually tried to plug in with this before no you're fine but I just noticed that once I get a tower it turn itself on which is interesting whatever see if that boots up it's still going through its postcodes right there so anyway everything worked fine on the Intel system no problem this one just stick on 24 we restart it only cuz like I said I turned on the power switch on the power supply to turned on which that board hadn't done yet now look with this graphics card in there now we're getting this OC and it's going back and forth between DRAM and CPU so let me turn this off make sure that it's all seated properly okay try that again okay I think we made it through that time yeah see that one's good now so that was a weird but I don't think it would it's kind of like troubleshooting 101 something doesn't work you change the graphics card reseated so the 1080 is working no care for it to redo all that stuff go ahead and try a Vega 56 but if the Vega card didn't work in there then that would be like the ultimate what the heck but the whole reason why I'm making this quick video is because I'm wondering if any of you guys have suggestions on what to try the the suggestion that's gonna probably most common is will reflash the bios on the graphics card easier said than done on Pascal cards and considering the bios versions already the same I don't know if rewriting over the BIOS is gonna help I guess it could but whatever NIC coming in with the assist so there's no I mean I'm not gonna go through and test all my GPUs it's very specifically this one this graphics card works on the test bench it works on this Intel system but it refuses to work on this one so I don't know if it's necessarily a problem with the motherboard specifically and this flashing that you're seeing right here this is normal when it goes through and reinstalls drivers especially when you go from like an Intel to an AMD Intel or Nvidia to AMD Nvidia AMD it'll stop eventually but I'm not sure if this is limited down to the motherboard itself or if it's specifically a GPU thing I don't see the reason why I don't think it's the motherboard it's because why would then one Titan work in there and not the other all right it seems feasible right you would think all or none if it was a motherboard problem two different Titans same BIOS doesn't boot so again the whole point of this video is I'm reaching out to you guys what do you think the problem is what do you think we should do to troubleshoot this because I think a new builder if they experienced this because I'm fortunate right I've I've accumulated over five years enough hardware to be able to troubleshoot this stuff and do all the methods you would with just swapping out hardware which like probably 95 percent or more if you don't have a spare GPU laying around or a spare C for your motherboard to try I think a new builder might have looked at this and thought this their GPU is bad and freaked out especially if they had to order it and wait for it to be shipped and delivered and deal with RMA and then here's what's gonna happen right you're gonna send this back to Nvidia they're gonna RMA it and go works fine they're gonna send it back to you you're gonna have the same problem so anyway what would you guys check maybe we'll do a follow-up on this but that's a weird problem that I can't explain and hoping somebody watching this video has the knowledge to point me in the right direction of figuring out why it's doing that so although rise in a great system these are the kinds of quirks and things we've been dealing with still even six months later it's just part of I mean this is tech this is what some of us enjoy this I enjoyed some days more than others alright guys I'm gonna go thanks for watching we'll see in the net you