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all right so obviously skunkworks got an update you guys haven't checked out the nvidia garage video you guys can go to their channel i'll link it down below and you can see what we did but i'm still not done tweaking this system this is the old motherboard and CPU from the skunkworks like revision for this is the x99 classified from EVGA it's also got my Intel 69 50 X processor which you should know by now is a truly soldered IHS which is why there's a little hole on there that's so that some of the gasses can get out when they heat it up and the solder actually solidifies this was amazing on temperatures it was an amazing overclocker but now that I've got a 79 60 XE in here I am dealing with some very funky temperatures that has probably forced me to have to deal it now so as we're gonna do today we're gonna test before and after certainly not the first time anyone's done D lidding on YouTube but it's gonna be the first time I'm officially showing you guys with the exception of the live stream we did with the 79 80 XE we're gonna see whether or not it's worth voiding that warranty so let's keep our fingers crossed because I have to take the system apart again if I break it EVGA offers a full range of components including video cards motherboards power supplies cases and peripherals regardless of your needs EVGA sure to have you covered to see what you GA can do for your next build head to EVGA calm now before I do lit it I kind of want to show you guys what I'm dealing with here now I'm running 4.6 gigahertz which is definitely no slouch on a 16 core processor but the voltage I'm using to run that's not that high and the temperatures we're seeing are very high now one of the tests I like to do is Cinebench it's a Navy X instruction and so it it definitely could hammer the PC and I can see what the temperatures are going to spike to long before the coolant is ever saturated so what that means is the temperature is going to shoot up to a really high number and then as the coolant gets hotter if you're running a long term AVX instruction then it's only gonna get hotter from there if that makes sense so if you see the temp suit up immediately that's before the water has even gotten hot that's heat being trapped in the package itself and never making it to the loop so we've got hardware monitor open right here you can see we're idling our cores down in the 20s but that's because I have balance mode going for power and that specifically because of temperature so right now we're idling at 25 23 ish on the course 1.3 to 1.4 gigahertz on the CPU because of balance mode but as soon as I run this test our temperatures as you can see right here 60 80 84 85 86 87 89 you see our cores are hitting 80s almost 90s and there's a 90 see right there's a 90 see on the package and our score is decent inside of Cinebench I remember this is with fairly low voltage our voltage did hit one point two eight one point two seven which is higher than stock obviously which runs out like one point one eight ish or something like that but on skunkworks I was actually able to run one point three five and four point nine daily on that on the 69 50x now yes I know we have more core density in here but I also know what temperature's we were able to achieve on the 79 ad XE once we deal edit it even on standard cooling so I decided to go ahead and do it with skunkworks and show you guys sort of the process yes I am well aware that that completely avoids a warranty which is something you guys should keep in mind if you're gonna be doing this but skunkworks kind of keeps its hardware long-term that's why this has been running ever since launch in the 16:9 50 XE this is gonna destroy its resale but I don't Reese all my parts I'm sure you guys have kind of noticed so this is my personal rig and I want to get as much out of it as I possibly can and if I for some reason do destroy the CPU which is always a risk when you D lid I do have another Sonia 80 XE I can stick in there which I don't really want to you though or we've got the 99 80 XE coming which is always an option let's go ahead and take a look at OCC T as well which is a long term test and I'm gonna show you what happens when I go to small data set small data set is something that tends to cause problems in terms of I know for whatever reason small data set is more tasking of your systems we've got a large data set it's not quite as is taxing I want say tasking it's like white as taxing on your system but I'm gonna show you what happens here because I can't push the voltage any higher you guys just saw what was happening at Cinebench we're gonna hit t.j.maxx of 105 if I push the voltage any higher than our is we're actually under volting the cpu which means when we run this particular task Oh Phil's running into things and there goes did you catch it okay since you're busy running into walls back there so what we just dealt with right there is actually an under volt situation where the CPU run ran out of power and it ran out of power so dramatically it didn't even have time to blue screen and kind of catch itself it just immediately shuts off the system and restarts with this error code on the motherboard so that's hopefully what we're going to eliminate I'm not gonna change any of my settings I'm just going to deal with it put it back in there and compare the results fortunately the CPU loop is the easiest one the drain so you can learn a lot from the spread pattern of your thermal paste and check this out you can see how we have an uneven spot on this IHS see how it's more spread out from there mean it's real thin in the center you can see the same thing right there very thin in the center more spread out to the side so we actually think that this is may not be perfectly flat we know that the blocks are flat and I could actually use a straight edge to show that but the IHS not something that was a problem I think all that recently I haven't heard a lot of people complaining about IHS is not being flat but that's where lapping came in laughing of water you know blocks lapping of air coolers lapping of IHS a--'s and I'm thinking that something I'm gonna do today on top of the D lid you wanna know how its high centered how it's got a dome in the middle do that so here's the 69 50 X not deleted obviously cuz it's soldered that is more or less what we would expect not a top there's anyone cringing at this now when you lap something you need to use glass because glass is perfectly flat like I couldn't do this on the table cuz it's not flat enough now I still have the the cover on this tempered glass right here because I don't want to scratch the glass we're gonna tape down sandpaper and lap it but because the glass is flatter than the table watch how much it spins on the glass whoa look that Intel what are you doing okay so here's what we're gonna do we're gonna go ahead and put this back in the system you can see that that copper area where we sort of went through the top coating of the IHS that's not gonna hurt anything we have a theory that maybe this is our problem we're gonna see what happens right now and then we will we'll go from there I don't want to deal with it I'd love to get away of just a lot you know quick lapping on the IHS technically I should also be lapping the block but the block we put up a straight edge on it and it's pretty damn flat so we're just gonna leave the block alone and see what this does well this our Idol temps down in the low 20s so let's go ahead and do a Cinebench run because we know that that was what definitely hammered it 70 to 80 81 on the package 82 83 84 does that that's already white like 10 C improvement so without even D letting so far we are seeing a serious improvement here in Cinebench I don't feel like I need to do a deal it'd I'm torn whatever let's deal with it what the hell Wow yeah okay so that's what you kind of expect to see as it's dripping all over my hand ah ah I mean it's perfectly flat you can see how the thickness ladies is all around the outside though with us being the Internet I know this wouldn't have been good enough so you guys are gonna want me to do lit it and that's what we're about to do nothing happened here I may have put a little bit too much alcohol on the IHS okay so we're deleted now we've got the gelid XGC extreme under the IHS and on top of it so here's our temps right there shooting 65 70 80 81 82 83 82 84 82 that's packaged tent by the way the cores are sitting in the 60s and 70s so not really an improvement with the D lid versus before which I was kind of afraid of you know cuz I just there was no need to do it honestly but that's okay these temperatures are still very well with what I would expect them to be considering the fact that it is skylake x which runs very hot and we are running 1.3 volts on this we decided this video was just to take you guys along for the ride I think Phil might agree the biggest improvement we saw here was with the fixing of the conga convexed IHS because if it's not making a flat mated surface and as you saw when we first took it off you could see that it was not making good contact except for a very small portion of the center of the dye and the IHS is there because it's an heat spreader it's an heat spreader because grammer good girder for me it's an IHS so it's designed to spread the heat to a larger surface area for more efficient dissipation of heat and if it's only doing it over a small percentage of that obviously that's not spreading the heat it's focusing the heat which is bad so guys next time you do your builds check your CPUs I didn't I don't necessarily recommend putting it down like a top and spinning it but if it spins then you know you have the same problem we do and a simple lapping with multi grit sandpaper and stepping it up and polishing it can give you improvements as we saw here but it will probably void your warranty alright guys thanks for watching and as always we'll see you in the next one now skunkworks can be considered done and go home finally