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the thing when I started benchmarking in 1650 I was a little upset like everyone else because we received the cards from the AIB about a week a week in half in advance and it's one of those things where like typically we get them in advance because we get advanced drivers which is why I was kind of confused as to why they withheld drivers from press reviewers until retail launch so it's kind of like why do we have cards early if they are basically paperweight so we couldn't do anything with them so I actually went to Twitter and I said well and video withheld drivers which usually means they're hiding something in this case having now reviewed the 1050 the 570 and the 1650 compared to of course is 1660 and the other cards that we tested over the years there's more than one thing they're hiding as far as I'm concerned now before we can actually talk about these cards you have to see the performance so that you're on the same page as I am and caught up as to where these cards are sort of stack up so let's just go ahead and rock out with your charts out I tested this EVGA GTX 16:50 after starting to test with our MSI 16:50 now both of these cards are above reference nvidia doesn't actually have a reference or founders edition 16:50 nor do they have a reference sixteen sixty or sixteen sixty TI the reference cards start or the founders cards start at 2060 enough because of course our TX is their you know their golden child and that's the only one they truly care about and i think that shows entirely on this lineup both of these cards are also using supplemental six pin power which means that these are not as low as the performance that they could possibly be these are slightly better slightly factory overclocked and overclockable graphics cards not relying just on the pci express power slot or the twelve volt that comes to the power or the PCIe slot which is about 75 watts so these are able to draw significantly more if you start to overclock them now in our test I did not overclock them at all these were out of the box settings no power curve tweak no fan curve tweak nothing like that so in terms of temperatures it's important to note that these cards are as you would expect extremely cool running it like high 50s to low 60s under their stock fan curves no throttling whatsoever they both sat right around 1950 to 1935 because GPU boost 4.0 it went significantly higher than the clocks that were advertised so that's how GPU boost works we talked about every time blah blah blah broken record but it's not to say it cuz people still don't seem to understand that so I went ahead and went back and tested our 1050 now the only 10 50s I have are the MSI very basic as you can see cards with no power plugs no multiple fans or anything like that and this card is actually still available right now on the market now the performance gap that I saw between the 1650 in the 1660 was so significant that I went ahead and went back and tested my rx 570 now the risk of sounding like AMD had anything to do with us including the rx 570 in our benchmarks that is 100% untrue because I saw that other people are testing with the 570 and the reason for that is because the 570 is cheaper than a 1650 now although the Radeon team and the marketing team is really pushing the 570 right now that's because this is the card that is closest in price to the 1650 which is the one that makes the most sense to compare if we want to do both sides of the fence that's why we included the RX 570 so no conspiracy theories about AMD saying hey include our card here's a here's a $20 bill under the table know that none of that happened whatsoever well I had a couple zeros maybe so the 570 that we included though was the red devil from power color this is of course a custom PCB with 1/8 in power and triple fan and super long and heat pipes and all that and someone might go well gee that's not fair it's extremely fair because this card is still cheaper than the 1650 and decimating it and pretty much every single test that we did and I say pretty much it did it did decimate the 1650 in every test and slid right in between the 1650 in the 1660 for cheaper than the 1650 it's a four gigabyte card and although it doesn't have what some might say is some of the features of the Nvidia card like it doesn't have g-sync well so why it has free Sinkin there are more free sinc panels for cheaper on the market so you're still getting adaptive sync at the lesser price than the 1650s you see online all the time well in video well they will the price come down with the price coming down you never see a price adjustment down at the lower end they never do they never adjust pricing but if I bought a five seventy at full retail which was roughly 200 maybe 219 something like that for the 4 gig card this is a 4 gig and now it's available for 139 the prices always slide everyone knows the price is gonna slide so if you early adopt Radeon you definitely pay full price and then you kind of get screwed later because it comes down in price quite a bit so AMD does indeed slide the price down and they definitely did that with this launch and yeah if you bought one of these a few months ago it might kind of sting because he could have gotten the cheaper cheaper than what you're paying right now the other thing that is really disappointing about the 1650 and I mentioned the reason why they didn't show us these drivers ahead of time is because Nvidia is probably hiding something well yeah they're hiding the fact that is being decimated by the mid-range and low-end Radeon cards I mean it's sad I started comparing the numbers and so by order and this card the 1650 slid right in at around the 380 X margin or the area which is over three almost four years old that's pre Polaris and this card wasn't even able to keep up with the 570 Polaris again at a cheaper price point now the reason why you didn't see the msi on our charts is because when I first started my testing I started getting black screen flickering all over the place and I went though that's inside maybe we got a bad card unfortunately I couldn't let them know prior to launch because we didn't have drivers for me to test it and they also told me in the email both both EVGA and msi obviously we're like hey we don't have drivers nvidia would be sending those you know the the way they sent them was their own download website for everyone to grab on launch day so I couldn't say hey is this what's wrong with your card then a hook up the EVGA card and notice the same black screen flickering issue when testing time spy it was isolated to time spy I didn't experience it in any of my other tests including dx12 tests like shadow the Tomb Raider and anywhere else I turned on dx12 to see if the problem persisted it was isolated to time spy so already there is there's some issues happening with this card on that particular test so that's why time spy was emitted from our test entirely it got a big fat fail in that particular test so this brings us onto the discussion regarding the cards value there really isn't there was really no value with this card as far as I'm concerned it's got a hundred and fifty dollar MSRP you can get this read double card before I believe it was 129 139 available right now on Newegg 170 dollars or $60 for this card so this card is $20 cheaper than this one and significantly faster up till like 20% faster in our tests we want to see what the performance value is like it's like that that's what it's like if we want to make a chart out of these two cards there you go okay but J touring touring is so good blah blah blah what about the Nvidia encoder returing it's amazing if you want to OBS and and and use one of these cards as an encoder that's the other thing in videos hiding it's using the Volta encoder they didn't even include the touring encoder with their touring architecture on this I think it's a stat boosting card so that they can say look at how many touring cards we have out in the wild hoping that people won't look at the Radeon offering at the lower pricepoint thinking that while nvidia is just faster than AMD well that's true once you start going above the five hundred dollar price point nvidia is faster but they also have a terrible value extremely terrible value at this price point so I kind of feel bad for the AI B's if you are know the truth the AI B's are forced to make these cards that's the agreement they are the manufacturers for these lower end tiers and the higher in tiers of course they can't say you know Nvidia we're not gonna make a 1650 you can't do that it's and it's in their contract in their agreement but they have to make the cards so they do the best they can with coming up with these custom designs these power plugs and all of that and unfortunately it wasn't nearly enough guys at the end of the day this card shouldn't exist and I swear to God if Nvidia who cares if Nvidia makes a 1650 T I'm gonna lose my shit I swear to god I'm gonna lose my if they make a 1650 ti so if we look at the product stack from Nvidia its 1650 1660 1660 ti 2060 2070 28:28 e TI and they tighten RT x so here's my official conclusion it doesn't need to exist it shouldn't exist it's Nvidia is completely out of touch low-end and mid-range market where they're charging a premium for nothing there's no value to it whatsoever for the first time in a long time we can say Nvidia welcome to two years ago for your competitor oh and if you guys bought a 1650 because their reviews weren't available to tell you well you got duped you got duped by the green machine and well I would probably use that return policy but apparently AMD me paid me to say all this and the video pays me to say this and blah blah blah blah