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what's up everyone Jays $0.02 here and there's no topic I can talk about that doesn't polarize the audience as much as laptops but take it from someone who spent almost a decade working IT working in satellite offices and a gamer laptops are necessary they're a necessary evil according to some but I think they're just damn cool so that's why I teamed up with MSI to get some laptops here that I borrowed to show you guys a couple of different categories of where laptops are and hopefully make some of your buying decisions just a little bit easier I did my back to school video where I showed how to build an inexpensive desktop then the top comment was why just build a laptop it's it back-to-school build you should buy a laptop and if I talk about high end laptops then it's always why would you buy a high end laptop buy high end desktop so the three different laptops were taking a look at here this is the gs-7 t3 VR and basically the GS stands for stealth this is their stealth series it's a very thin lightweight laptop as you can see right here and I've actually took a look at this earlier this year but there's been some generational upgrades and we'll talk about that in a second it's the same laptop that Nick is actually using now full time it's a great laptop I absolutely love the form factor of it which is what really sold me on it now this is the G e series which stands for enthusiast this is their 15-inch model this is pretty new they also have a 17 inch version it's important to note this is a 17 over here on the stealth also but this is a 15 inch mainstream laptop which is still pretty light and portable and packs a lot of hardware in there but if you're the kind of guy that's like you know what I travel a lot and I want all the power I can get and I'm not willing to sacrifice any of that power well then you look at the Titan series because this guy this is the successor to the one we took a look at earlier this year if you guys remember that Titan I took a look at when I first moved into the studio this is the successor to that and trust me when I say they held nothing back now this may look like the same stealth we took a look at earlier this year it's got the same chassis the same brushed finish which is looks amazing but unfortunately it's a fingerprint magnet it's got the same 120 Hertz 17.3 inch gaming display with 7700 HQ 32 gigs of ram 1 terabyte SSD with a believe of the two terabyte 7200 rpm Drive in there steelseries keyboard RGB it looks identical but what's different the previous model had GTX 1060 and this one steps it up to a 1070 max Q now the max Q is somebody that's new this year for Nvidia it launched back in May with Computex where the max Q has a design focus on efficiency and acoustics while maintaining high performance so what it's going to do is it's going to automatically adjust itself dynamically to stay within a certain efficiency curve as well as a student certain acoustic level and they do that by enabling something called whisper mode which is inside of GeForce experience now what they found is that as the curve gets a bit higher there becomes a diminishing return where to get the next bit of performance takes a much more exponential amount of power in a much higher acoustic level to maintain things like temperatures in you know laptop chassis that's the challenge here when you're dealing with these laptops is getting as much performance as possible but maintaining heat especially on a guy like this look at how thin that is there is not a lot of room in here for heat pipes if we look at the bottom you can see we've got quite a bit of ventilation at the front we've got our events for speakers but on the back we've got our intakes we've also got some exhaust right here on the back so we've got a lot of ventilation on the sides right here as well but what that allows NVIDIA to do with the max of the 1070 max Q is actually dynamically control itself to stay within that efficiency curve so it allows the 1070 to stay right around 115 Watts total graphics power draw which means less heat and less noise so you can actually not be sitting there annoying everyone next to you and like the coffee shop right you take you take a gaming laptop to a coffee shop you start gaming everyone knows you're gaming but this Dera here actually stays pretty quiet now moving on to the ge 63 this is their enthusiast lineup right here this is a 15-inch model but this is probably going to be more of the sweet spot 7,700 HQ 32 gigs of ram although this has a 512 gigabyte SSD versus the one terabyte SSD in there so nvme storage but it's actually got a my opinion a better keyboard than what's on the Stealth cuz look at this perky RGB lighting which we don't actually have on the Stealth that's a zone lighting thing it's got some really cool features on there but the 15-inch is going to be probably leaning towards this one right here also being yeah I still think it's my favorite honestly but that's not enough for you you're a die-hard gamer you want as much power look at that top gently you want to miss as much power as you can get well I've got something for you yes well this is the Titan and that's its power brick this is pretty much desktop components crammed into a laptop look how thick it is ladies look at the ventilation on this guy even now one of the reasons why ventilation like that exists is because once you start putting high-end desktop components into a small form-factor this is a small form-factor PC guys I don't really think we should call this a laptop anymore listens to be fair it's got a 78 20 HK it's got 64 gigabytes of ddr4 but it's got a full-blown GT X 1080 GPU in there now it's not this although that could technically fit in there if you might be technical about it its base it's the same components the same chip the full eight gigabytes the full speed and overclockable this guy is overclockable where these two over here are not you can overclock the GPU you can overclock the CPU and get a massive amount of performance but where this one's different than the one we took a look at earlier this year is they've changed the keyboard it's a steel series low profile mechanical keyboard so you you've got your clicky click on the keys you've also got pur RGB or perky RGB lighting again the thing I'm kind of sad that mine doesn't have but I digress it's a behemoth now this does this this version of the 1080 is actually not the max cube but they do have a max acute 1080 as well that are available in laptops this one you can even get in a full-blown gtx 1070 sli if you want it so that's a bit incredible this right here is probably not going to fall under the category of travel friendly yes you can travel with it but you know I've had the Titan now since earlier this year the other tightness now Brian's computer hi Brian say hi Brian's over there he's been using this now for work and he likes a big laptop he's a big strong guy but if you're on planes and stuff a lot I used to try and use it when I was traveling it's not very friendly it's it's extra deep it's a little slide-out tray with a guy my height it's just there's not a lot of room for it that's where something like this in my opinion is definitely the sweet spot 15 inch it's gonna in any laptop bag this account I think to laptop bags while shopping that actually fit it in there so that's something worth taking you know keeping in mind when you're shopping for that 17.3 inch display but this has two displays available this is the 4k version that they sent however it's also available in the high refresh rate 1080p version as well now what's performance like on these why now let's play let's play some games and see what happens so I was gonna do GTA v as a benchmark but for whatever reason my external it won't recognize it won't let me migrate but a sistema stupid sometimes and so am i but whatever so we're gonna do 3d mark time spy instead because you can download it for free and I just I think it's free and you guys can compare it home to see how your results are doing to these laptops so we're gonna go ahead and just run it in two configs because remember I said that this is an overclocking laptop it's currently in sport mode and we're just gonna leave it that way the fan is at Auto there's no overclock applied to anything yet but if I took an overclocking laptop and I didn't you know actually run both benchmarks with overclocked and non overclocked I think you guys would tear me apart so we're gonna do both and see if there's any gains to actually be had okay so we got a combined score 6391 a graphic score 6944 and a cpu score of 4400 for so imma take a picture of that because I don't want to forget I always need to forget these numbers and then I'm like what was the first number again so what kind of options to be actually available here if we go into the dragon center and go to system tuner we can go to turbo and then to turbo we get this little wheel that we can click and then we can adjust our GPU offset and our CPU offset what happens is we go to GPU let's offset let's see we can do a 200 megahertz offset let's try 150 and then the B Ram clock let's do let's do 250 these are numbers that I can typically get on a desktop GPU like the wherever it went the one I had out here but we also are gonna have to we're gonna have to give this thing some airflow so once you click cooler boost or that basically says annoy all your neighbors for the sake of performance because screw your neighbors it's all about the fps so we saw a pretty significant improvement we have from a 6391 to a 69.95 and our graphics court went from a 69 44 to a 74 91 and our CPU score actually came up even from a 40 404 to a 5809 so obviously we went from 4.0 which is where defaults to 4.2 so 200 extra megahertz on the CPU 150 extra megahertz on the GPU core and 250 megahertz on the GPU rim so as you can see we clearly saw some improvements here while overclocking this laptop obviously at the sacrifice of acoustics and if we look at our temperatures where our temperatures do our temperatures max down the GPU at 68 C in an overclocked 1080 and a laptop I think that's pretty damn acceptable so next up is the GS 63 which I find really to be middle-ground it's kind of like if the Titan and the Stealth had a baby but because it's got the same 1070 mxq you're gonna get the same efficiency benefits the power draw benefits right it's not as much power draw from the plug and you're gonna get better ku6 and performance when it comes to tailoring itself but you still get overclock ability with this because why the heck not it's Nvidia you should be able to overclock it but you don't get CPU overclocking with the 7700 HQ that's unfortunate but at least we can control our GPU so I'm gonna put the I'm gonna put it back up to the same frequency we had with the other Titan there 250 150 and 250 because why the heck not we could probably push that farther but it also has a pretty decent amount of cooling on the bottom as you can see right here and there's a lot of air that's actually moving through this laptop so we're gonna run time spy again and see how it does so yeah the audio on this is pretty damn good the I wasn't expecting that to be honest so we've got a 55 84 on the combined test a graphic score of 59 79 and a cpu score of 40 66 so remember a 1080 higher end graphics card and a higher end i7 versus the mainstream stuff and it's actually performing very very well what are max temperatures get remember we are overclocked our max GPU temperature looks like we reached right around 75 that's 75 Oh like we hit 77 as a max temperature and that's overclocked remember that that's important so the max Q design is definitely working pretty well which brings us back to the stealth which is again like one that we took a look at earlier this year as well now if we go to the system tuner what do we get access to here so there's no turbo mode on that so already even though we have the same hardware in the stealth what we're giving up for the smaller form factor the thinner form factor it's actually a larger footprint 15 versus 17 but because of the depth restraint we have more cooling capability in the GE than we do versus the GS so that's why all we get sport comfort eco and power options which is like high performance you have a high performance power option so we can't do any overclocking on this whatsoever we still have fan control so you are sacrificing some on that so I'm expecting this to actually score a little less than the GE simply even though we the same GPU simply because we are not going to be getting any sort of overclocking ability also to audio wise the reason why I saw the audio clip on the GG I've been running the stealth for a while personally the audio is amazing on the GE vs. the stealth in fact we'll do a little bit of a side-by-side comparison right now so it's no surprise to get a lower score with the stealth a 44 86 combined 55 45 41 to graphics and 4201 cpu simply because we were not able to overclock the GPUs know the path back so I'm aware that this wasn't like in-depth reviews of each of these but this was just kind of an overview of some of the lineup that you can expect with laptops especially from MSI's G series I mean it's kind of like a small wait no small medium and large right uncompromising overclocking big heavy before bearing is that the right word dictionary Brian some is forbearing what does forbearing mean why is she laughing at me or I guess it kind of works out this way like I would I would be the Titan Brian would be more like the GE right he's smaller but he's strong right and then we got Nick over here who's just kind of like the more agile the little thinner than us kind of thing we hate him but at the end of the day laptops are here for a reason it's good to see that companies are innovating like the max-q technology from Nvidia and then MSI for incorporating this stuff and giving you a decent amount of options my favorite of the bunch is still the GE 63 I love this right here I'm gonna I'm gonna I wanna I want it I want it the sound quality of this alone was like oh my god wouldn't expect good sound out of the Titan there's lots of room for big speakers in there but compared to the stealth the stealth right because it's so thin doesn't have a lot of depth to deal with putting big drivers or anything in there but the sound was just so full and rich out of the GE so anyway guys thanks for watching today's video and a huge thank you to MSI for let me borrow these laptops so I could do this video for you what laptop would you choose and why sound off in the comments below and let me know what it is you look for when you're buying a new laptop are you guys can more concern with portability are you more concerned with uncompromising performance or do you kind of want something more in the middle ground like price is no no object for you guys what would you buy and why anyway thanks for watching guys and as always I'll see you in the next one you