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what's up guys Jays $0.02 here back in the saddle it's going to be back we're gonna talk about some thread Ripper we're gonna rip some threads rip apart because oh man there's some pretty good memes going around the internet right now we're AMD is just uppercutting the out of intel and this is like man that AMD not pull any punches cooler masters master key Pro Series of keyboards offer sixteen point seven million color RGB genuine cherry switches a variety of sizes as well as surface mounted controls allowing full customization without the need for stand-alone software learn more by phone first and foremost guys I'm not going to talk about specs really I mean a little bit but it's not expect overview video late to the party on that that embargo lifted a few days ago plenty of tech youtubers have already covered it go and check out those channels or probably just look at your sub box make sure there's information there there's going to be a lot of information out there also too if I'm looking out this way it's because I have a laptop right here with notes nine pages of notes to be exact nick is quite the note-taker because we went to the AMD press conference thing and Nick took some a lot of notes you can tell like I went to college damn it I just shrunk them oops I have a really big now okay four back so the point of today's video is just to kind of talk with you guys about my take on thread Ripper what are my plans our thread Ripper and what can we expect moving forward because you guys have been asking me that for a while now and I refuse to talk about it until I had more concrete information and we'll talk about rumors because I want to see the information firsthand I think AMD for for once was very forthcoming and honest with a lot of their marketing material you guys I'm sure you guys would agree there's been some past issues with some of the slides and things they would present but they were very forthcoming with information and how it compares to Intel and where they win and where they lose most brands will show where they lose they just highlight where they win and I felt like they did a really good job at answering a lot of questions so let's start with this there's three SKUs obviously 1950 X for a grand 16 cores 32 threads you've got the 1920 X a 79 799 processor 12 core 24 threads later on this month thing with 31st of August is going to be to 1900 X which is 549 8 core 16 threads essentially it is a in 1800 X but with 64 PCIe lanes and quad-channel memory so it's not a single die they're still dual dies on the chip but the way the Infinity fabric works in the way the memory is it is still a dual died ship droid River is kind of interesting because it's the first time we've seen any HP DT or high performance desktop out of AMD in a long time they have not been concerned with competing in the high-end desktop arena in fact a few years back they even publicly said we are not interested in competing with that well obviously there has been some command changes in Intel over the last few years and yeah they came out swinging man and this is this this fight between AMD and Intel right now is almost as good as the Mayweather vs mcgregor showdowns at the press conferences but yeah obviously time will tell how these really play out now 16 cores and 32 threads that's a lot and the problem with that is when you start to have that many threads a lot of applications may not actually take advantage of it so AMD was very proactive allowing resources to be able to have backwards compatibility with spread Ripper on day one and given the fact that right then being a new architecture and there were some growing pains with that and this being the same architecture we can see some pretty good day 1 compatibility with both memory modules and software so that's going to be a good thing I've seen a lot of people asking they're like who needs 16 cores and 32 threads it's ridiculous games only use yada yada yada well if you're thinking about thread Ripper and you're thinking about gaming you're not thinking about it in the right way you're right it's absolutely overkill for something like gaming unless you want those guys like me who's also an enthusiast and you're like you know what I know it's overkill but I like overkill I want overkill does there's no justification needed to go out and buy it but if you're also that guy that's like I want to play games and I don't know what this whole live streaming things about let's try it out it is a monster when it comes to multi-threaded performance now we did see an average of about 28 percent performance improvement across the board when compared to the equally priced Intel 7900 X so that's pretty that's pretty badass right there and I think we're going to see some more performance over time as applications become more optimized for this level of multi-threaded performance but maybe the kind of person that doesn't need 16 cores but you still want to do the live streaming and stuff then being 1920 X is definitely going to be an attract CPU with its 24 threads or maybe even the 1900 X at only 50 dollars more than the 1800 X Rison chip but still giving you the 64 PCIe lanes and quad channel ddr4 so that's going to be worth taking a look at you know I've said this before and people have called me out calling me an Intel shill or an Nvidia shell or whatever and you guys might notice I haven't talked about Vega yet because that's going to be a different video I want to get my hands on Vega I don't know when we're getting it so time will tell on that so that's a video for another time but I've always said if I go work performance is best and in the cpu part side of things guys I think most people would agree with me maybe even some fanboys would agree with me that AMD has not been competitive on the CPU side of things until 2017 all right I mean the last time I had anything new was when the bulldozer architecture came out and obviously excavator and piledriver and all that stuff but we're talking like 2011 guys uh six years ago so the law and even then it only competed with like Sandy Bridge and then with Ivy Bridge came out and Intel kept you know actually seeing some incremental incremental good improvements jumps it hasn't been competitive since then and then Intel stopped really improving things and just giving us more minor refreshes they got away from a tick-tock and it became disappointing and we get where we are today where you get companies that are complacent like Intel and they just are not pushing the envelope like they could but AMD has changed all that and the way I know that is the way that you can tell what's happening in the market you can tell what's happening internally in a company with the way that they present themselves and Intel has taken a lot of flack this year regarding their choice of Shaving PCIe lanes as you move down the stack AMD is obviously not a paid attention what's happening with Intel and all I owe all of your lanes all of your cash and all that stuff is completely available on all of their thread Ripper chips 64 PCIe lanes going down the stack there's three SKUs this time and all more coming later but it is they they're just like we heard the market we heard the outcry and there's no reason to do that that's greedy why would we do it so they're open which is amazing because now you can have multi GPUs multi dint to S you can have your raid cards your sound cards your capture cards no problem guess it's an Intel right now if you try and run a dual 16x SLI configuration threads that well it's more than 28 so it's going to go 16x and 8x and you don't have a lot available it's just and the fact that they would even have their 8 core 16 thread 7820 XOR K I came with a skew but anyway 28 PCIe lanes on a CPU that cost $600 so a couple of funny things have happened though regarding Intel and NVIDIA since the thread ripper launch and the Vega announcement which is kind of interesting to me because it tells me that these two companies are concerned at least a little bit I mean they both lost a little bit of market share until more than Nvidia obviously but it's funny because Intel and NVIDIA have this whole like we're not scared right where our performance numbers stand by themselves but they both made some interesting decisions I think is kind of funny to princess I I get this I get this notification that suddenly an Intel 7820 X has been shipped to me I didn't ask for it I don't want it and it's on the way so that tells me Intel without even like getting any sort of approval of like hey can we send this to you was like we want to get Intel's name out in front of the audience guys I don't play that game sorry I have no use for it don't know what I'll do with it but for now I mean you're not going to see that end up in anything so it's obviously a marketing tactic and then Nvidia let's talk about that one for a second because although Vegas performance is not going to be anywhere near the Titan X performance its compute performance is through the roof right in terms of games Vega is right around the 1080 which I think it's disappointed some people they were hoping for 1080 TI levels of performance in games but it's it's definitely a stop-gap card between gamers and content producers like myself we can leverage a lot of the compute performance pretty much like the estimates a lot of what's out regarding in video right now and so Nvidia responds with a sudden driver improvement that improves the compute performance on Titan by up to 3x I think everyone can see right through that right they've already already like ringed a lot of money out of the market with the first tighten and then released the official tighten xp for the same price of the Titan without what it was like a very quiet launch right so you could have bought the Titan the day before the new car came out and you didn't even know I did a video about that and I stand by my statement with that but now suddenly a driver that improves improves performance by like X amount that's insane I mean it's obvious what was happening there but then the funniest part was that remember back to the Terry Crews build where I had requested the Titan XPS for him and they were like it's not a gaming card it's an AI card we recommend the 1080 TI it's like uh there's no reason why this card wouldn't be an amazing gaming card look at all of the CUDA cores I get all the ROPS and stuff so why why why not call it a gaming card well it's not a gaming card but we'll go ahead and divide it and then now in their new marketing material they're calling the Titan XP built for not only costs like professional workflow but also for gamers I just found that kind of funny and laughable guys I just wanted to share with that anyway um so those are my thoughts on thread Ripper and I'm going to say this right now and I told this to AMD I told them this at the event I said if what we see on paper here turns out to be true and factual then my next system for myself and the custom system you guys have all been waiting for will indeed be an AMD thread referred 1950 X I'm happy I'm excited about the Nick will tell you I'm super excited about thread Ripper man and yeah that content coverage is coming water blocks and all waiting on that there will be ETA water block support on day one so once I get my block in and all that then we will definitely talk about that but also on a final note though because I completely skipped it is cooling cooling is something that you're gonna have to keep in mind with this though they're shipping with it an ASA tech bracket so that any ASA tech based coolers the round coolers anyway will be able to hook up to your motherboard immediately and there's something like 20 or 25 water cooler supported at launch there's only five air coolers right now supported not to a I think cyborg and Coolermaster but not to ones they said we're going to be a little bit delayed so technically is only a couple air coolers available but we're looking at 180 watts ish of heat that needs to be handled at stock speeds so I wouldn't consider even overclocking this on air I mean I guess you could spend if you get a winning chip that doesn't require a lot of voltage but will obviously cover all of that in my future videos so thanks guys for listening to this rambling head video it was kind of nice to get my mind off things and talk about something fun and exciting from this company which who would have thought just came out swinging kind of like McGregor and Mayweather are going to give me a good fight and this is kind of like but the tech version of that I'm excited you guys sound off in the comments and tell me what you think you're probably going to love it you're probably going to hate it fanboy isms aside it is what it is thanks for watching guys and as always I will see you in the next one