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hey what's up guys Jase two cents here we're going to go ahead and continue these hot months with a little bit more water cooling stuff especially since we have ek sent over a couple of new products here and technically they're not really like new products or more or less like upgrades to existing product lines and I figured rather than do a standalone review on this which would be kind of redundant I would kind of turn this into a twofer which one this into a twofer well normally it's two for Tuesday but it's this is going up on Monday so we'll turn this into a twofer Monday I doesn't really work very well does it did what it's so mom you really think so what is the wife thing well she says it gets the job done - ugh that's mom a fractal design node - OH - it's not about how big it is but all about how you use it so EJ's got a couple of new things that we're launching here and we're going to take the opportunity with this product to kind of talk about radiator thickness whether or not thickness really matters first up is the EK bar to our fans and we took a look at this months ago and i said that these were one of the best performing and quietest fans i think i had ever heard at least at the 1450 RPM range of any radiator fan these things are amazing static pressure but they're also great at airflow they're low at power consumption they're only 0.18 amps for the 2200 rpm fan I'm holding right here so performance of them was stellar it was amazing the problem I had was the fact that they only came in black with gray blade or black shroud with grey blades unless you got like the 3000 rpm fans which were all black a lot of people kind of cus went give us all black fans we want black fans that way we can put them in any color build and not worry about the way they look well ek stepped up and not only gave you all black fans here in varying rpm ranges but also a white fan and the cool thing about this is they also give you a matching black braided cable pwm cable as well as a white braided cable the white fan so now you have some options here now we're not going to do another performance test on these fans I'm just going to go ahead and direct you to the previous video that I already did with the paper test and the radiator to flow test and all that sort of stuff so if you guys want to see more about the performance of the Vardar fans in the original black and gray color then go ahead and click the link in the description or annotate it or however I ended up pointing you guys there maybe it'll be a little slight out card I don't know now the other thing we're going to take a look at here are a couple of new radiators added to their cool stream line of radiators now either running the cool stream triple radiator in the test bench here ever since I did my cryo venom reviewed last year the r9 290 cryo venom from visiontek and I've been running that radiator ever since in the test bed and having fantastic results with that now that was an overall about a 45 millimeter thick radiator and they've added to their line now they're ultra slim as you can see right here this is a triple radiator very very slim could fit this just about any case as well as their X II which is their extreme this thing is actually really heavy but this is their extreme radiator you can see this thing is just that's a massive girth to it if you know what I'm saying now those radiators are pretty much the same when it comes to finding city and layout build quality the construction with the exception obviously of the thickness so that got me thinking maybe we should talk a little bit more in this video about how radiator thickness really compare this hope I can do this but knock in these over am I good so how these two radiators compare to each other and where you should install thick radiators versus thin radiators or whether or not you should even go with more fan options on a radiator like triple or quadruple or a double versus a thicker smaller radiator if that makes sense so hopefully I explained that well what we're going to try and do today was go ahead and get started now thin radiators are nice because you can pretty much fit them in most cases I mean most cases today anyways are built with water cooling options in mind where you're going to have plenty of space between the top of the motherboard and the top of the case so that you could fit at least a 30 millimeter thick radiator like this one here with the 25 millimeter thickness of a fan so you've got 55 millimeters of total clearance needed in most cases to fit a slim red and that's going to be pretty much acceptable for most people now if you're going to be installing just a CPU for the most part you could get away with just a 240 millimeter read at 30 mil thickness like this it's going to give you about the same cooling as your all-in-one water cooling options the difference is if you're doing a custom loop like this and you're going to get better quality components a better radiator better tubing better pump better block so you would get a better quality loop doing a custom loop over an all-in-one even though it may be a 240 so here's a common question that I get in my inbox an awful lot is something along the lines of je my case can fit 3 120 s in the top should I get a triple radiator or should I get a double or should I get a 120 thick radiator or a 240 thick radiator I just don't know what to put on there well here's the general rule of thumb my personal recommendation is always going to be get a radiator that matches the amount of fans that you can exhaust air from your case so what that means is if you were putting this let's say the top of you know a Corsair case or a fractal design case and you have room for three 120 s as long as you can fit this in the top of your case with no obstructions below it then I would always recommend going with a radiator that matches the amount of fans that you have so if you have a triple go to the triple if you have a quadruple go with a quadruple the difference in cost between larger radiators in terms of surface area by length is usually only a five or ten dollars between radius sometimes more depending on the radiator but you're going to find that you're going to have a lot more surface area and a lot more cooling Headroom so if you decide later on you want to add a CPU block art not a CP block hopefully that's already in your loop but a GPU block or maybe motherboard block or something you're going to have additional Headroom because as you add more watts of cooling needed you need larger radiators to account for that now with that said a lot of folks will have a case something like you know the fan text in through primo going I've got a ton of room I've got I can put massive radiators in there so should I go with a thin Raider radiator or should I go with a thick radiator well the general rule of thumb here is going to be you will get more bullying dissipation by adding a longer radiator that's thinner then going with a shorter radiator that's thicker does that I hope that makes sense you're going to get better efficiency and cooling by going with a longer read with more spread out surface area then say going with a smaller radiator that's thicker if you can fit the longer read so something like this is going to offer you good cooling but this is not going to equal the same ad even though this is this is twice as thick as this guy here it's twice as thick this is not going to offer twice the cooling dissipation as this it doesn't really work that way now one of the downsides with going with thick radiators like this is they're a little bit more difficult to bleed or get all the air out of because there's a lot more room for the air to get trapped in here the top of the radiators that are thick like this almost act like a reservoir in their own sense where there's a lot of place and a lot of room for air to get trapped in the top half of the radiator so you end up having all these rows going across the red where only the bottom ones would be filled with fluid and the top ones could be filled with air for quite some time so you would actually notice that your coolant reservoir would continue to drop for weeks after getting the system you know at least what you thought bled would continue to drop for quite a while now that's not to say that these are bad I'm not saying these are bad whatsoever there are times when radiators like this are necessary because you can't fit the longer Reds in there you can't maybe you can't fit a quad but you can fit a thick 360 then something like this is definitely going to offer you the extra cooling dissipation and cooling capacity needed to add things like your CPU and GPU or even multiple GPUs depending on you know how much Headroom you need on cooling and how much Watts dissipated so that is where a thick radiator would definitely come in handy and the other thing you have to keep in mind with this guy though obviously is you've got let's say this is 80 millimetres I don't think this is 80 maybe it's 80 but you've got at least let's say 60 millimetres and then a 25 millimeter fan you've got to make sure your case has 85 millimeters of clearance plus the length of the fittings coming off so you might need a hundred millimetres of clearance to run this bad boy but lots of cases nowadays are actually offering that sort of clearance so you might opt to go with something like this the cool thing about the thick rad that the thin rads don't have as you can see there are no fittings on the backside there's there's ports on the front but not on the back the thick guy here actually offers you some ports on the back as well so you can have a come in one side and out the other you can just get kind of get creative with that so I hope that's helped answer some questions there we'll just kind of recap this again I would always recommend going with as much length surface area as you possibly can and I know guys this some of the gestures and stuff we're doing here I'm sure are going to end up with some some pretty questionable memes so always go with length over thickness if you have the option if you don't have the option then you're going to want to go with the thickest rad that you can fit in the space that you're going to put it and still have room for your fans and your fittings you'll find that you'll actually get better cooling out of a 360 30 mil rad usually then say a 45 mil to 40 or even a 60 mil to 40 it just really depends then on a lot of other factors like your fan speed your fan pressure the amount of intake you've got coming into the case the placement of the radiator and it has a lot of factors so anyway that's my recommendations guys hope today's videos actually helped you learn something when it comes to water cooling and if it didn't well then I'll try harder next time but then again I am your instructor and well there's only so much I'm capable of especially when sometimes I'm surprised I can actually dress myself in the morning bag with my kid and my wife dresses me alright guys I'm going to get the heck on outta here thanks for watching today's video and we will see you in the next one