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what's gonna be that's a good score I am I'm quite happy with that okay sixteen six six three so I stopped here is that good enough alright we talked about our 3175 ex overclocking excursions if you guys haven't seen that yet you should go back and check out that particular video but this is the revamping of the RIP TN series we've had this CPU now for like five months maybe even more I'm not sure we've had the motherboard but you know we didn't really have before was a cooling solution for it and alva cool was gracious enough to send over one of their blocks for it we talked about it in that video so make sure you guys go and check that out if you haven't already because we're gonna do right now I'm gonna go in here and I'm gonna kind of dial back our overclock just a little bit because the problem with riff GN even though there's enough booting from your honor detect memory oh it's a good start with their 9 blade designed the skier on D RGB fans from Italia offer a balance of 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got so I'm gonna run this again though just to make sure it's not some sort of an anomaly but like I said if you look at Steve scores and granite wood this is like five months later since he did his or six months or whatever it is we did download a new bios for this motherboard I don't know if that makes much of a difference but we're getting significantly higher CPU scores than him with significantly less cooling and frequency if you guys recall if you look if you go look at his scores and I'll have I'll have Phil put it on the screen just so you guys could compare we have to see what his where he's at to know we need to be to be able to beat him right that's how a competition works and so we pay attention to scores very closely we realize he's running five gigs five gigs on chilled water I remember that wasn't that was amazing I thought twenty-eight cores at five gigs that's insane on chilled water we're not on chilled water this is our radiator right here this is our alpha cools XT whatever sixty Mick milk with not even a push-pull config with Vardar fans running a hundred percent it's not even a high fpi fin count so it doesn't make sense to us that a slower speed could be a faster speed unless it's a lot like GPUs with this particular core count where max frequency is not necessarily fastest but I would have I know Steve he's intelligent he he would have stepped this up incremental II and seen if there was a diminishing return he knows how to overclock we tried so hard to match his score without using Titans because we just thought that'd be badass right we've got 220 atti for the win three cards right here that we've got custom bios available for that would allow us to just remove the power limit but the problem is these are at kingpin cards which means we don't have any control over voltage and stuff like that which means that we're still stuck with max overclock ability at stock voltages well guys it's gonna happen I'm going to take the Titans out of here I'm going to take them apart I'm going to shut mod them put them on chilled water and with that cpu score of ours if we get anywhere near Steve's overclocks on these we should take the crown back these cards were obviously launch cards and the problem was these cards have two different BIOS on them one I think has like an 11% power limit an additional power limit and one is fourteen one of these cards is like more GIMP than the other and I think I think that is why when we did our initial Titan r-tx testing in SLI we got a significantly lower score because one of the cards if it's being power limited the cards are going to match and they're always gonna match whatever the slowest card is so if one of these cards is we already know we're hitting power limits so if one is hitting four percent less power draw then the other it's gonna pull the better card down these cards are so pretty though yeah but pretty don't win competitions do they well I guess they wouldn't beauty pageants but that's nothing does this look like a beauty pageant contestant right here it's like you would think this guy at the gym is buff but like this guy out lifts him so what we did was we pulled the current driver or nut driver but BIOS off of my okay firmware off of my Titan card that had the 14% power limit like I said this one here is like 11 so I just reflash it back to itself to make sure the cracked NV flash is working I'm not doing a video about how to flash the ROM I just wanted to tell you guys if that's what we were and to do here so we're gonna do right now is we're gonna cross-reference using gpu-z the version of this rom versus the one that's online if they're the same that not to worry about pulling it down Sony device ID this is about version 0 0.01 I bet you anything it's gonna end up being a new one RTX Titan wrong it's with a virus collection oh they're the same 0 0.01 okay so we'll look at the version on this one I bet you anything it's significantly older here is the the bios that's in this one here 1902 one eight zero zero zero two not the same as our other one but as you can see right here look at the power limit this one goes to 123 all right so we're gonna flashback to the other BIOS because this this clearly this BIOS I don't think was obviously ready for primetime I think about how higher power limit I got bet you anything because we're not we don't we're not measuring wattage from the National card I bet you anything that 123 is a higher percentage but of a much lower base that's what I'm thinking here so it's just going flashback alright so we're gonna see where we land right now on air it seems to hover by around 2050 to 2100 on both cards now that we finally got the proper bios flashed on both clearly the engineering sample was pulling down the other card because it was really dropping in flux and when you're an SLI both clocks have to match so we're just gonna run right now with our CP overclocked where it was with these two cards enough talking let's just see where it lands cuz that's that's where we've got a that's where we've got to improve dude that's at 17 for a second - come on the city in the 18s and 19's holy I pull back the clocks and I pull back the cache and it gets better it doesn't make sense I tell you it just hardened no put it you eat all services it was so juicy oh my god that was a pressed strawberry thing I've ever had yes look how red it is mmm we at least hit 16,000 oh so close do you think that's a best CPU score yet by five by three by three hundred points god we've got a lot of room to make up though it's in GPU yeah we're the top ten with air cooling alright that's alright it's only 11:30 in the morning we got plenty of time I just woke up with Tamara cool cards it was like BAM all right what we just had two crashes in a row so you know what that means what I do the shut mod the block install and the other thing alright so you might be noticing that we are not using the full cover water block when you're doing the mods and stuff and then you put a full cover block on it if something's wrong with the shut mod or it's making contact with something it shouldn't or we need to add more or take some away or whatever that's kind of a big deal with the full cup of water block have enough to take it off and completely drain it and all that sort of stuff so that would in my opinion just be a big issue so by doing it this way I have access to the shunts on both sides of the card the other thing is just the simple fact that this is easier to control condensation because if I have a big giant surface area of metal on the card and then it's all covered by the really pretty plexi and acrylic and all that sort of stuff then it's even harder for us to control condensation so this way I can wrap the block around with paper towels and I can even go as far as putting our neat eraser in there if I want to and really control the condensation because since we are dealing with a $3,000 CPU and a $1,700 motherboard and $5,000 in graphics cards I really care about where the water goes why I'm surprised on my first attempt first time ever trying because you know the thickness of the metal can make a difference on how much resistance there is it's about resisting and and that's how I'm not gonna get into how the shunts work and stuff but it communicates by resistance and we're changing that resistance value so that it thinks it's pulling less power which lets it do things like this go to 2115 and not throttle why we just go ahead and do a 3dmark run it's crashing like immediately yeah it was just a loose mount that could have been causing our problem - okay that's farther than we've gotten yet right oh my god those milliseconds are lower whoa you're still 100 points behind that asshole god oh we lost like a couple points oh okay everything fine this is fine come on if we just brute force gt1 enough because we know we're hitting power limit in gt2 we were going to brute force method it wasn't power limiting gt1 if that can carry our score up too much salt but I'm not even done yet we're gonna go to CPU now 60,000 866 we're gonna see if you score it's not even our highest but look at that up in the cache voltage brought our GPU score up my wife is on her way I wonder if have time for one more run up the cache one more people said you can't do it Jay nice Steve I missed the freaking BIOS because I was worried about me so this is actually the next day I figured that since three marks database went down yesterday for maintenance or whatever reason I would just continue to screw around and I'm glad that I did because you guys saw us yeah 16800 whoo and it was like okay that's kind of nothing now equator what we've achieved but I'm done for the day because we played around this morning some we got a new high score technically but we're fighting some serious condensation yeah it's bad but I want to show you here how we kind of did the radiator setup because this is important if you don't have flow going across or through the fins whether it's sitting in a bucket of ice water or not makes no difference so I've actually got this pond pump which is a submersible pond pump and it has threading on it so you could hook a hose to it and run it somewhere if you want but look how much water this thing actually moves so this is the pump right here it picks up from the bottom pushes out there and then that just you saw how much water comes across so it shoots across the radiator and then on the bottom of the rad I have these screws so that it doesn't sit flush on the bottom of the cooler so that we can make sure that the water actually goes through it now the reason why we use a radiator like this rather than just going Jay why don't you just pick up the ice water and pump it through the system we did that when we first started this competition when the very first time we did ice water I went why should we have a radiator why don't we just pick up the ice water and put it through well varying reasons one the temperature at the bottom is warmer than the temperature at the top and that's because the ice settles at the top and that's where it's colder there is a gradient of temperature change the other thing is I have no idea why but on average we were tendency warmer when we just picked up ice water and pumped it through the system for some reason having a chilled loop I think the coal I think it can contain the coldness better and so it gets closer to the actual temperature of the ice when you're chilling and cooling a separate closed and sealed loop so if you guys know the physics behind that or something out there actually really knows the answer it isn't just going well I don't know but here's my guess if you actually know the answer as to why that is I'd love to know so once you guys put that down in the comments and respond to us so this was a score where we first started screwing around in the 3175 ex overclocking video we were like hey we've got some potential here this is higher than our score that we've had in the past we've got a really good CPU score this is the score that is as of right now public on the Hall of Fame website and I continued to play around after the database went down and these are the scores we got I then got a seventeen thousand sixteen a seventeen thousand twenty a seventeen thousand fifty eight a seventeen thousand 85 a 113 a 119 and a seventeen thousand one six two our CPU score came up almost another thousand points to seventeen thousand 605 and we got our seat our GPUs to seventeen thousand 87 so not only did we beat him in CPU which we knew going into this cuz we've always had a better CPU score than him for some reason we've now beat him in GPU as well on shunts that are still hitting power limit early we think so there's still Headroom to be had here and this is without our fast memory we don't have six dims of our g.skill overclocking memory we're using dominators which are slower in every way than that and we found that the way I was able to get the score so much higher and yeah I know I'm kind of putting this info out there for everyone to copy but that's fine we want you guys to have fun too is vram on the graphics card that score that score right there was me running 1,400 Plus 1,400 on the memory and plus 190 on the GPU if we went plus 200 on the GPU we crashed we got a plus 1450 to run but it wasn't any better of a score so we saw just kind of returned right there so plus 1400 I know and the other cards and stuff if I want anything over like plus 1250 we'd start getting artifacting we then get any artifacting at plus 1400 so what we found was even though I was incrementing this the the GPU clock we weren't getting a better score in fact we were getting a worst score because memory wasn't supporting it but once I increase the vram well then we got the scores that you saw right there so you know we got to do now upload and validate this score all right so if you go to Hall of Fame we can see even with all scores on times by extreme we're fifth place what happened Steve disappointed in these data add to K if we go to 2x we're still 1 over number 4 17,000 162 two spots ahead of Steve because I'm kind of a jerk I also ran over a single card score and I expect him to beat me because he's gonna be doing ellentube I believe Bowman number 6 number 6 so that means all of our scores that we actually care to compete in haven't done fire strike on this are all in the top 10 once again not bad cuz saving the fact these cards have been around for almost a year now and we expected the XOC guys to come and just knock us off the board entirely locked off the top of 100 or something like that so Steve I expect to come back from vacation and see that I'm knocked off of there again and you're on the top so all right guys now we can go because he made me come in on a Saturday to do this crap that one core like screwed up the calculation and then everyone else was like ah man damn it George it's always George we have to name all 56 of our threads yeah cuz the court of the clock sorry how do the clocks go again [Laughter]