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Overclocking with a stock air cooler?? Is it even possible?

2018-04-24
what's up everyone Jays $0.02 here we're gonna move forward with some risin coverage here regarding cooling because cooling is one of those things that even if you aren't overclocking your computer you can never go wrong with having more cooling than you need so why even you no chance it which is why the stock coolers that typically come with your CPUs they're good for testing they're good for getting the system up and running but usually people will opt to get an inexpensive tower cooler like the hyper 212 Evo from Coolermaster or even an AI oh so like NZXT or fractal design cooler master or whatever because they just want a little bit more cooling than what stock can offer them but AMD when they were when they launched Rison last year launched the Wraiths cooler which was just getting rave reviews I'm sorry through views rated reviews as to being a great factory cooler well this year they stepped it up with the 2000 series even further and offered the prism cooler with the 2700 X so today we're going to use the prism cooler and see just how much cooling you're actually getting with it and can you even overclock by using the stock cooler typically that's a big fat no no but today we're gonna do a yes yes and we're gonna try it out the new cooler master H 500 P mesh white provides maximum airflow sleek design and elegant tempered glass giving you the ultimate platform to show off your next build learn more about the new H 500 P by heading to cooler master calm so they're actually including the Wraiths cooler with the 2600 X which previously this is what you got with the 1800 X which was the top tier the top dog of the stack but now the 2700 X is the top dog as you can see I snuck an unboxing it is a clearly different cooler and I have already tested this cooler that's why you're not going to see the stock thermal paste on here I will be using some of the cooler master master gel pro just a basic thermal compound probably very comparable to what would be pre-installed as you can see right here but if we go ahead and take a look at both of these coolers you can see that the Wraiths cooler is very similar to kind of like how the intel cooler is it's just a big aluminum chunk with all of these heat fins carved into it and it's got a copper core and then you've got a fan there you got a fan right here that blows down through this the air comes through the fins and then goes out the sides which actually offers a little bit of cooling to your RAM and your power delivery as well that's why these down fire coolers are actually pretty good when you've got a tower cooler kind of mounted here on the motherboard pulling air through the side the air never really makes it down to the components which means you've got to have good case cooling in mind when it comes to cooling the power delivery in the heat scene surround it but when you've got this down fire cooler like this you can see as the air comes out the bottom then you get good cooling for the components around it but if we take a look at the prism cooler here you'll notice a couple of extra things one we have got a copper base and one two three four copper heat pipes now the heat pipes are going to give you better transfer of heat to the heat sink or the fins themselves the fins do nothing but offer surface area to give more spread of the heat allowing it to absorb more heat and then the fan again fires down through all of these fins giving you better cooling again for your motherboard components one thing I'm not a fan of though with this cooler already as you can see it retains the factory super-annoying clip style I would kind of wish that they had used the old style here which has these screws that screw down on the backplate on the motherboard I wish it found a way to do that with the prison cooler but I digress so I guess they're assuming a lot of people are going to definitely hang on to these because they've invested the money to make it RGB and to also improve the amount of cooling that this can offer so that you don't have to add more money to your budget to get your system up and running you have a cooler that will get the job done out of the box but you know we got to do now we have to test this to see whether or not truly does get the job done well didn't turn off immediately that's a good sign had enough of that last week if you broke it okay so you guys remember that last video where we killed our SSD yeah that was totally on us we've talked to Corsair turns out somehow someway we have no idea how it happened some of you guys already figured it out it was a wrong SATA cable and the problem is the box it came from was from a PSU we have it used in over a year so we have no idea how it got put in the wrong box so I digress on that that was totally us that killed it so I just wanted to put that out there it's important to say but here we are all factory settings it's currently sitting at 4.1 gigahertz remember this has the new sense mi which is going to try and look for a self overclock kind of like how GPU boost works and we're gonna just kind of keep an eye on temps and see what happens the fan curve is also set to the standard factory fan curve so that's something else we can do - we could play the fan curve a little bit to see where we go but it's also important to note we dropped down to three point nine seven five which is still an overclock from the base I believe three point seven gigahertz is the base so it is applying a little bit of an overclock but it's still lower than when we were with it with the water cooler the water cooler when we did our last video overclocking actually went to four point zero seven five so we're about a hundred megahertz lower than we were getting with just putting on an air cooler or a water cooler so that's something worth keeping in mind so the test is getting ready to finish here we're at 89% but our temperature has locked at 68 see now based on what I hear with the acoustics of the fan it still doesn't sound like it's at a hundred percent but it is totally kept it at 68 C thirty-nine hundred and fifty megahertz across the board one point three 375 volts you know I think I'm gonna skip the turbo setting altogether and I'm just gonna set the cooler at a hundred percent to see what our with factory settings what our lowest temperatures are and then of course we have to see how far we can bump up the overclock to where the cooler is just no longer adequate also remember we are in an open air test bench so this is the best case scenario the only thing controlling the temperature of the CPU at this point is the cooler zone capability so I'm just gonna go and put this fan - a hundred percent yeah it's loud the rpm run at 100% almost 4,000 rpm start the blender at this point I wanna stick a piece of paper in there something worth pointing out is look our core speed is higher so we might see our temperatures still reach the same temps as before but we're gonna get faster clocks as we're doing it's like rap 4.0 across the board or before we were at three point nine five zero we are indeed getting faster core speed by just turning up our fan curve and the test is finished now so crazy enough it was only not even one C lower now yeah you guys could probably argue like well J you left all of the auto overclocking features on you know you left sin semi on so that's not really a fair test well I think would be unfair for me to turn that stuff off because no one's gonna buy this chip and go and turn that stuff off that's why people buy this stuff is the advanced you know risin features and self overclocking and all of that but now the real question is can we actually push the clocks and the voltages with this running on its max speed so that's what I'm gonna do now I'm going to leave it at max speed and I'm going to see how far we can actually go we're just gonna adjust our multiplier ratio here crazy part is I know I can't hit 4.2 without going up to like 1.4 two volts but we want to see where this where the limits are of this cooler I'm not sure 4.2 is gonna be doable to be honest all right the moment I hit render 56 57 58 60 61 oh yeah I locked up and locked and I was gonna happen it's the only guy do all right thought that was gonna happen so you know we have to do next is bump up the voltage okay here we go 1.3 8 volts we got a little bit farther last time we froze way down here alright we're gonna go to 1.4 what do you think just go straight 1.45 and then pull it back we'll just do it does it do it I think it's just gonna I think it's just gonna go straight to like the 80s and then start to throttle now we are already at 75 76 77 no 4.2 all the way across the board nine ninety point seven five this still says 4.2 though like I don't think it is throttled yeah I'm gonna do mid test and see what happens here oh there goes opening up test manager was just enough what do you think we're sake of science just try 1:45 if I blow it up I promise I won't ask AMD for another one I'll just buy it I said wait five tests manage you're gonna work right now plenty of tasks managed you're like bricks it does I want to compare the core speed and see if it's really throttling okay so I think we got our answer we can't match a i/o performance with the prism cooler but I think you'd have to agree the prison cooler is doing a pretty darn good job considering the task that we're throwing at it I'm gonna let it cool down a little bit and then we're gonna take it off and see what the spread did okay well I mean it's not terrible you know we have to do now to really make this a valid test and we should probably throw on another air cooler real quick what do you think so I'm going to use the Noctua what is this the NH u 12s se - a m4 it's actually a specific cooler that was designed for Rison during the first launch it but one of the things that I actually really like about this cooler is one yes it has the heat pipes obviously but it's got a base on here which is very very flat you can see it's reflective like a mirror which gives us better contact with the cooler but it also doesn't use the stupid plastic retaining brackets that I told you I hate it takes these pieces of crap off and then it uses its own mounting system so that you get just the best torque and mounting possible as you drop them all over the floor and then probably lose them see last time we hit what 95 or 96 see before crashed so test about to finish ninety point two five but you know the the impressive side to this though is that this knocked to a cooler was only about five C cooler the five C cooler than the prism so what can you take from this video this is a lot better than the Wraiths cool I wouldn't even try this test with the Wraith cooler something else that's important to keep in mind to those most people are not going to be running the loads on their system like blender I mean we all I think there's a lot of people out there that are aspiring content creators but most of the time things like gaming regular surfing of the internet light workloads they're not going to put this kind of heat into your system under gaming I don't let's find out real quick actually but you can see right here it's locked at thirty four point eight eight like it hasn't moved at all which is kind of crazy so and we're still running 1.5 volts but guys that was just us kind of taking a look at the prism cooler here to see how well it actually performs the Wraith cooler made a heck of a splash last year and it looks like the prism cooler adding RGB flavor and giving us some pretty decent cooling Headroom I did not expect it to be within five C of the Noctua cooler I really didn't see that coming so guys I'm gonna go I'm gonna get out of here let me know if there's any other content you want us to cover for Rison I saw your last video with a lot of your comments and we'll definitely try and incorporate as much of that as possible but if you're looking to do so look minor overclocking with your prism cooler on your 2700 X definitely capable and as you go down the stack and there's less cores the cooling only improves and this is also a worthwhile cooler for any a m3 or m4 CPU so including your bulldozer your FX CPUs and your piledriver stuff like 8350 SAT 370 is because it uses that factory retention so as much as I hate this bracket this little clips it actually gives it more compatibility with older CPUs so we're gonna go guys thanks for watching today's video make sure you let us know how you thought about this video down below if you think we did something wrong we should test it in some other way definitely let me know we'll try to improve our methods and if you guys are new around here once you hit that subscribe button as always guys we'll see you in the next one
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