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SAPPHIRE R9 380 and 390 NITRO | Performance Review

2015-08-14
I really need a freaking cameraman God is anyone willing to work for long hours and no pay I'm just kidding please don't send me your resumes people actually did that last time I made a joke thanks Linus for having to actually hire people on a YouTube channel alright I think we're in focus there okay so I'm gonna apologize ahead of time because I have got a head cold little Jay went back to school last week and you know what kids do when they go back to school they bring home germs lots of them and I've had all summer to just not have to deal with the germs of other kids at the school that my daughter just happens to be a host and a transportation device for so guess what I'm getting sick but I have a video to do I have to do this video and I cannot just lay in bed and play games on my laptop which I would love to do because I have work to do so anyway the only way I'm getting through this video today and I might be talking really fast and I just realized that it's because I am all hopped up on drugs chip I actually have taken mucinex I have taken saline nasal spray and I have taken a Snickers bar I haven't had I don't really eat candy bars but I needed something and I just don't have an appetite and monster energy drink it's a zero calorie one though so don't judge me feeling a little bit out of body experience right now if you know what I'm saying so I apologize if this video is a little bit weird you guys might actually enjoy it even more so with that said let's go ahead and get in to the review Wow when I turned my head right there it was like a delay it's crazy the new z170 classified motherboard from EVGA features 8 phase PWM 4 Way SLI support along with top notch components to offer gamers and enthusiasts more of what they want a badass motherboard with no compromises click the link below to learn more first up r9 380 nitro from sapphire now sapphire has kind of taken the approach of well we hear you folks you don't want to orange graphics cards you don't want blue graphics cards you just want nice jet black graphics cards so guess what they did I mean a black graphics card so they are 9 390 and the 380 nitro are featuring black with gunmetal accents which is really nice I don't have any blingy LEDs shining all over the place no glowing name plates no frou-frou type stuff which other brands are known for doing they are just giving you a hot mess right here where it's just black and it looks good no matter what system you put it in there is no backplate unfortunately on either of these two cards and I know no Sapphire is probably like die jail you'll get off your high horse about the back plates we're trying to keep the cost down well you know what I like back plates and that's not gonna change anytime soon not to mention I gave everyone else crap for it so I'll go ahead and do that too I guess I wouldn't have expected one on this price point but I probably would have on this price point but anyway they shave 10 or 15 bucks off there by not putting a back plate alright we're moving on now we'll stop talk about the back plates you got what looks like two 100 millimeter fans on here giving you lots of static pressure over the heatsink running the length of the card two 6-pin PCI Express power connectors on here for power delivery and you do have a multi bio switch on here now this isn't their normal push-button bios which for like their UEFI bios that's just a toggle but you are going to have some bios to play around with on there and then for connectivity you have got DisplayPort you've got HDMI and a DVI II or DVI I and DVID what is DVI II don't even know DVI e is DVI efficient I don't know anyway this thing has got nine hundred and eighty-five megahertz which is a factory overclock from sapphire and I believe it was 14 five megahertz on the RAM on this thing it's also got two gigabytes of vram which is going to place this card right around the 1080p performance range depending on the title you might get away with some 1440p gaming 4k gaming not an option on this card period in fact you will see it in the benchmarks but that's only because I was just running the gambit of sweets that I normally do pretty much ignore the 4k numbers they're just kind of there because it was like why not but you really should pay attention to the 1080p numbers and some of the 1440p depending on the title when it comes to the 380 now the 390 on the other hand this thing is a little bit more capable of 4k gaming sorta and I'll tell you why in a moment but first let's go ahead and do the walkthrough try x3 fans on this bad boy keeping things nice and cool five copper heat pipes again trying trying to keep the core as cool as possible actually does a really good job of it and you'll see that in the charts it's got a cooler that runs longer than the length of the card by about an inch and a half so you've got a ton of watts that's capable being displaced on this cooler in fact the temperatures stayed very respectable on this card even when overclocked look at the chart if you wanna know what those numbers were the card is sporting eight gigabytes of vram running at 1500 megahertz also overclockable which I did overclock it to 1600 megahertz for my testing and it's got at 1010 megahertz core clock from the factory again an overclock over the reference 390 which I pushed all the way up to 1000 125 megahertz comfortably I was able to push it all the way to 1150 however it didn't pass some of my tests so I backed it down to 1125 for a guaranteed stable clock that made it through all of my tests so other than that you do have the standard bios switch up here which is a push-button UEFI bios it's going to glow blue that's unfortunate because everything about this card is black and then you've got a really bright glaring blue LED if you happen to an enable that bios so maybe if they had made this white or even just tone down the brightness a little bit I think would have matched the aesthetics of the card a little bit better code activity is different though on the 390 you've got a DVI and then you have got one you three display ports and an HDMI again sporting the solid black with gunmetal accents on here looks fantastic at any angle that's how it's going to kind of look in your system like that you can see all those fins on there all those fins normally I would take this cooler off to investigate how the vrm and power delivery is being addressed but it's not my card I don't get to keep it so therefore I am NOT going to take it apart but I can tell you that they do have vrm cooling addressed on here at least with it looks like some heat sinks kind of stuck on there as well as the major heat sink in the back here is touching the vrm through like a little transfer plate it's not a direct copper heat pipe transfer of heat but it is addressed anyways it's not like they just glued on a couple of heat sinks and we're like best of luck PRM hope you don't blow up so they did address that let's go ahead and do the benchmarks you guys can look at the charts and like I said kind of ignore the 4k numbers on the 380 I mean like I said it's not a 4k gaming card it's not even really a 1440p gaming card so definitely ignore that all right guys let's go ahead look at the benchmarks and I'll see you after transition okay so this is going to be a little different I figured instead of just flashing all of the charts across the screen and expecting you guys deposit that will just take a few minutes here and we'll talk about each chart I think that I'll answer some questions allows me to sort it and play around with it and actually present to you guys the charts in the way in which they're meant to be presented all right so first up we have core clocks as I said I use the 970 SSC at sapphire 92 r9 380 the 390 and I use the r9 290x matrix Platinum from Asus because currently that's the only 290x that I currently have currently current currency currently like 15 times in this video probably that's the only card that I have fully benchmarked right now in all of these so I'll be working more on that in the future but as you can see the 970 is clocking up to 1440 - that's actually conservative most 1500 plus but that's where this particular card kind of crapped out the 380 and the 390 nitro both hit 1125 now the three 80s and 980 5 megahertz so it's got a bigger overclock than the 390 but the 390 s got a bigger chord and more stream processor so it's gonna be more powerful anyway even though the processor is the same speed and then the matrix Platinum stopped at 1075 because well if you watch my review you'll know that this card really didn't overclock very good at all temperatures we have got this sorted highest to lowest and obviously lower is better and as you can see once again the 290 matrix platinum 79 degrees at that overclock that's that's kind of hot in my opinion I think it should be cooler the 970 SSC OC hit 77 so what's awesome about this is look at this the 390 nitro 72 degrees Celsius overclocked and then the 380 hit 71 overclocked that is super low that's one of the lowest I've seen AMD cards actually max out at I mean that's fantastic temperatures obviously that cooler is working so next up is fire strike and we sorted this by the normal setting here and then we could play around with extreme and ultra but as you can see here a fire strike doesn't tell the whole story and this is why it's important that you don't only use synthetic benchmarks to draw your conclusions of graphics card performance and here's why the 970 SSC OC is hitting the highest scores almost well pretty much all around for the most part I guess but what's happening here is this isn't giving you a true real world gaming experience and I'll show you why but you can see the three 90s right on its heels of 13 204 versus a 1375 and then as you could expect we go down the list here with the 290 X then the nitro unlocked or stock speeds 1970s SC stock you can see was was quite the jump when she overclocked it and then the 380 nitro OC and non OC you can see there down here kind of where they'd be expected to be if we sort this by extreme numbers you can see things don't really change much but once you go to ultra you can see we only get some things playing around you know down here in the lower range a little bit things don't move a whole lot as you can see I mean things really aren't changing very much now moving on to Witcher this is why I say that the entire picture is not painted with fire strike because if we took fire strike and said well the 970 is performing better than everything therefore we can draw the conclusion of the 970 is better well guess what obviously that's not the case here the 290x matrix platinum for whatever reason was getting the most FPS on witcher 3 on the ultra settings with the high post processing preset with hair works and all that crap turned off as you can see the 970 was 1 FPS below that but if you look at the 1440p numbers you can see the 970 did beat them 290x but matched the 390 nitro when overclocked now if we sort that by 1440p you can see the 390 moves up to second place and if we sort it by 4k well look at that the 390 moves up to first place so obviously the vram is doing its job in the 390 versus the 970 because as a resolution goes up you can see the 970 starts falling down the charts Grand Theft Auto 5 once we sort this here by 1080p as you can see the knight 390 and the 970 are neck-and-neck at 96 FPS average but you can see the 390 is 66 FPS versus 64 at 1440 and they both hit 32 at 4k once again the 380 is kind of down here where you'd expect but if you look at these 1080p numbers 65 when overclocked or even 57 when stock these are very respectable numbers for 1080p with 2x msaa turned on once you turn on MSAA you get a lot of load added to the card because basically it has two kind of super sample the image multiple times which takes a lot of horsepower to do I'm moving on to Metro this is a canned benchmark and so it just it runs through basically the engine and like a little battle scene so you get the same stress as you would get during the game so that's why most people will use the benchmark utility super sample is off tress effects is on normal motions on normal and physics which is an Nvidia technology is turned off we don't want to unfair advantages here so as you can see once again 1080p 102 FPS for the 390 and the 970 trails it again only 1 FPS lower but if you look at the 1440 and 4k numbers you can see where you got 3 FPS more at 1440p and 2 FPS more at 4k it may not sound like a lot it you know 2 FPS 4k but believe it or not that it takes a lot of bump to get two extra FPS on on that load it's four times the pixels of 1080p but when you look down here again at the 380 nitro is just chugging along at 60 and 69 42 and 37 or 19 and 17 that's that's why I said ignore the 4k numbers really 380 at 4k mm-hmm it's not gonna I mean like a twitcher right 15 likes anyway Crysis 3 alright so as you can see here 1080p once again 63 vs. 62 of the 290 and you can see the 1970's fallen it's starting to fall down quite a bit here 1440p let's so it oh and then you know obviously the 380 51 and 44 again respectable fps doesn't hit that magic 60fps not in crisis anyway but I want you to look at how close the three 80s are both you know the OC and the standard AR to the rest of the numbers versus say GTA 5 you see this gap right here how far this has to go to match up with the rest of these the fact that Crysis 3 it's much closer this shows you've got more of an engine optimization thing happening here rather than graphics card performance so I just wanted to keep that in mind if we sort by 1440p you can see the 290x is a 1fps ahead of the 390 and then the 970 and then 390 stock so you can see the 3 the 970 overclocked is matching the stock 390 nitro so 970 overclock versus 390 nitro same exact fps here but once you overclocked the nitro obviously it takes off a bit past the stock 970 Far Cry 4 you can see here again a very narrow margin especially at 1440p I mean all of them hit 53 53 53 that was kind of amazing for K 28 27 27 but 81 then 390 pulled out ahead quite a few FPS and then three ATS down here at 52 and 45 and these numbers again not the magic 60fps but if we took off some of that 2x msaa and the edge h bao which is technically an nvidia standard unfortunately i've benchmarked with this on so we'll have to maybe run this again in the future but you can see here that if you took off 2 X MSA and moved ultra down to high these numbers would clearly get the 60 FPS number and last but not least battlefield this is Direct X not mantle if I ran mantle then I wouldn't be able to actually you know directly compare these or measure the numbers very well so 970 s giving us the best performance in 1080p by a couple of FPS but you can see the 390 at 1440p gives us a little edge we've matched each other in 4k and you can see down here the 380 you know 77 and 68 good numbers for 1080p on the 380 I'm pleased with that 1440p once again bump ultra down to say you know high or medium and you get even 1440p would easily be up in the 60s maybe even higher than that so there's that I want to talk about these numbers rather than just show them to you so tell me how you guys feel about this format maybe we'll keep it maybe we won't back to you J in the studio all right so those are the numbers tell me what you guys think I still think the r9 390 is a fantastic fantastically positioned card if that makes sense it doesn't destroy your wallet it doesn't destroy your budget it gives you great FPS and games especially if you're not like an FPS Nazi and you're ok with you know things that are not you know 100 FPS or 200 FPS which is you know honestly a bit ridiculous even though I do like those fps is FPS is I don't even if that's real whatever I'm sick now if you're on a lesser budget I think the 380 is also a fantastic card for 1080p gaming at you know medium to high settings one thing I want to point out and it might seem unfair for those that would say well it's not fair that you took the 380 and you ran it on ultra settings with MSAA well the numbers that you're seeing that are still extremely respectable or at settings that were a bit higher than this card is really placed and aimed at so that means that your numbers running something like medium or high settings and not ultra and bumping down the MSAA or even turning that off in some games depending would only give you better numbers so you're kind of seeing what the worst case scenario would be with this card depending on the games that you play there you go guys the nitro series cards they also do have I believe a 390 X in there but we didn't take a look at that I've actually not looked at any 390 X's yet might have one coming up here very shortly on this channel stay tuned for that but I'm gonna go ahead and get on out of here guys r9 390 nitro r9 380 nitro I think great cards they do exactly what they're advertised to do which is give you a great gaming experience in colors that you guys have asked for at least some of you some of you may have been like I like orange I'm I don't I want black on one orange finally go buy an orange one alright it's time to get out of here thanks for watching guys and thank you for 400,000 subscribers that's crazy we just might have to get up and do something special for that alright see you the next one
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