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all right so recently we did a video where we built this 567 dollar gaming PC capable of 105 FPS here in resident evil 2 one of the things we used and that was our X rx 580 and we talked about overclocking a little bit and how temperatures had actually reached the low 80s and a lot of people reached out to us and said hey you know that card is kind of known to have bad thermal paste from the factory so what I thought we'd do today is kind of a just a quick exploratory video where we take a look and do our temps actually improve if we change the thermal paste on this card as you could probably hear the fans are definitely running near full speed and we're still getting 78 see inside of Resident Evil 2 right here 79 I've already seen 81 or 82 in fact if we go ahead and quit out of here real quick you'll see that there's definitely going to be a some Headroom that we could probably find here or GPC builds high-performance custom pcs for gamers and professionals backed by a 24/7 us-based 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but then you can see we definitely hit the 70s upper 70s and then here we hit 81 and then as I went to the menu and stuff start talking you guys it comes down to like the upper 70 so we hit a max of 82 which in my opinion for a card that is still it I mean on the warmer side the RX 580 can get pretty warm if you have like the reference cooler on there for a dual cooler heat pipe card like this I feel like we should definitely be getting some better temperatures than that now this video that we're gonna do right now also is going to apply to pretty much any graphics card not just an rx 580 but any graphics card even those that are using a Founders edition or reference style cooler you can still probably get some better temperatures by changing it out to a better thermal paste and then even receding the cooler because a lot of you guys seem to think that this issue that we were seeing was directly related to thermal paste with this card I figured we would at least see if that was valid or not now we do have an overclock applied here with a plus 25 on the core voltage a lot of you guys said under volt the card under volt I found that I could not get 1450 stable without me running about a plus 25 on here zero volts or zero additional volts was not stable I haven't tried necessarily under Vil tene but for the sake of today's video and keeping everything consistent because we need to make sure we're not introducing any variables that could skew our results we're leaving all those settings as they are right there you're also going to notice we are running 55c right now at idle because this card does have a zero rpm idle mode where the fans don't turn and they offer silence instead of cooling so it's a bit warm on the idle that's normal because like I said we are not actually turning the fans so with all that out of the way let's go ahead and break open the card and see what we find so given the fact that this card has four heat pipes and a dual fan with heatsink on here I was kind of expecting these temperatures to be better now this could also technically void your warranty although it's kind of a gray area where I guess manufacturers technically aren't allowed to void your warranty by taking something apart but there is a sticker on this particular card over one of the screw holes so yeah you don't do this at your own risk obviously don't say J told me to do this he's responsible he made me void my warranty that ain't gonna fly so don't even try it there we go well I don't know if I'd go as far as to say that it was a bad thermal paste application but that's what it looks like nonetheless it's definitely thick I mean a lot of the thermal paste solution in the factories is extremely heavy and very thick so I'm hoping that by s going with some of the more traditional stuff I use with water blocks that we might see a little bit of an improvement here it's also interesting to see that two memory chips here have extra sealant like around them I wonder why these two chips have a different type of mounting than these other ones here we got some in the corner of the actual socket as well it's also interesting too the way these sockets are kind of mounted at a or these these chips are mounted at a 45 degree angle not that it really matters so just I've never really seen that before okay so as with any sort of DIY like this you assume a certain level of risk and responsibility and because when you're dealing with GPU dies like this you are dealing with SMBs that are exposed and transistors and resistors that are right here on the surface you want to be very careful when you go to clean the thermal paste off you don't want to use anything that's going to necessarily be grabbed be fact a lot of people would probably even say don't use a paper towel like I am right now but I've done this so much I'm comfortable with it you might want to use maybe a coffee filter or something like that which is less fibrous it's not going to leave little fibers like that's kind of leaving on there and you want to make sure that you get all of this off without getting hooked on any of these and accidentally pulling them off which is what paper towels and any sort of cloth can actually do I've never seen a plate that mounts down to the pipes like this I'm curious now if I didn't do these will that plate come off because if so that's another layer of transfer right so if there's thermal paste that goes between this plate and the heat pipes that could be a deal a thing to like why is this screw down like that yeah I've never seen this before on a air-cooled card it's almost like maybe they put down like a solder or a flux and then you spin then they screw down and then it hold it yeah that could be it but that's not popping off I'm not gonna force it so this is direct die so we want to use a lot in my opinion because we want to cover every square millimeter of it and it is going to squish over to the side and it's perfectly fine this is non conductive exotherm from ek which we use on our water blocks so you guys want to make sure obviously if you're using any sort of thermal paste that it's non conductive although most thermal paste these days are not conductive any longer so I mean depending on your graphics card you may or may not have a ton of screws or a thermal paste glob that gets jammed in the card or something but you may have a million screws that go around the perimeter and stuff so you just want to be very careful as you're taking it apart that you make sure that you got all the screws out before you go trying to pry it apart otherwise you could accidentally damage your card and you don't want that because then you'll cry and then we'll be able to play games you won't be able to play for a night anymore and then you'll cry not just because you're a child but because you can play for a night everything is awesome everything is cool when you're part of the ching okay hopefully we still have video alright so early everything is running it's gonna take some time for this obviously heat up but yeah it's at 33 34 it doesn't really count but we just fired it on right we just put clean thermal paste it's as cool as it could possibly be but just to show that all of our settings are the same nothing's changed same factory fan curve and all that sort of stuff let's go ahead go back into Resident Evil 2 same thing same spots no tomfoolery here or J foolery or whatever chief alright so as you can see right now we're we just hit 81 so clearly there was no change I'm in the exact same spot too that I was even there's no change whatsoever to the temperature in this particular instance that doesn't mean it wouldn't necessarily be a fix for you because if you've been running a graphics card for hard for the last year or two your thermal paste is probably nice and hard and kind of thickened up if that makes sense and you could benefit from this so I would still highly recommend it if you're comfortable with taking your card apart and replacing the thermal paste we did this in the past with an old GTX 580 that used to belong to coconut monkey and we saw it came down like six degrees in his case but as you can see I'm sitting 81 right now and we are not getting it's exactly the same that 81 oh there's 82 even so but what will affect your system more than anything else is obviously the case airflow so I still stand by what I said in that video where if you take your case and you open it up and by opening it up that could also mean not to take in the side panel off but also giving better airflow through the pan through the case because we've got one intake fan one exhaust fan which in my opinion is not enough for this particular amount of heat that this card can put off I took the side panel off you can see we've already come down 2 degrees down to 79 and the longer I play this will actually continue to come down over time there's 78 and I has everything to do with the fact that the card is now able to get fresh air that's recirculating because a cooler like this that is exhausting air into the chip the chassis or the case it's the chassis responsibility to take the heat out of the case and this one is just not doing your job of it because we have one low RPM 120 millimeter fan right here in the back and as you can see right here it's already coming down in temperatures not as fast as I would like oh there's 77 per second there just like it takes a while for the card to heat up it can take a while for it to cool off as well and in fact we have ways of speeding that up around here there we go well even with like a thousand CFM or whatever this pan is capable of moving its stopped at 75 so maybe the more of the store lat Oh 74 improvements alright so maybe the moral of the story is when you buy a lesser end graphics card you get what you pay for and in this instance the cooler is doing what it's designed to do a mediocre job but we can still play without any sort of throttling it's still 14 hundred fifty megahertz when it was 82 degrees or 75 in this case with a box fan plugged into it you can still play games not a budget PC you kind of gotta go well what exactly be one out of it but what we just showed you that like I said does apply to any graphics card for the most part so if you've got a graphics card that was running great and now it's running really hot and you haven't changed anything you might want to start by taking a look at your thermal paste so there you go this is one of those videos we did specifically because of the comments section so I just felt like we'd do it hopefully this taught you something hopefully taught you to not be afraid to service your own components even though it has a warranty void sticker so obviously like I said that one's on you in terms of whether or not you want to void your warranties to do this so I'm gonna go guys thanks for watching and as always we'll see you next okay so reason we recent we recently we 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