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Skunkworks Update Part 3 - Q&A Session

2015-04-29
water cooling parts for skunk works were provided by performance PCs for the largest online selection of PC modding and water cooling parts head to performance pcs comm well here we go guys day three of the well part three of the skunk works v3 update there's a lot of threes half-life 3 confirmed we're starting off today with me being a dumbass and now having to go over to Lowe's because I had marked out some holes last night to drill and of course one of them was off by about an eighth of an inch and trust me an eighth of an inch over the length of a tube really shows so now I've got to go to Home Depot I've got an idea of how to make this work and we'll talk about that in a minute I thought it stuck this one off a little bit interesting as we are actually in my wife's car which is a 2005 Dodge Durango and it's funny you can tell we never drive this car because it's ten years old and it has eighty-three thousand miles on it so we're talking like eighty three hundred miles a year this thing rarely gets driven and what's also probably a little bit embarrassing as I Drive the little Nissan with will sit not really little it's an Altima but I drive the Nissan with a bike rack on it and my wife who's really short five foot three drives a Durango with oversized tires and a v8 yeah all right so what I ended up doing that makes me a complete and utter dumbass was I stayed up way too late working on this build and I tend to do this a lot where I get really kind of involved and obsessed in this build and for any build and I don't want to go to bed and want to go as much done as possible so you do things when you're tired and then you make mistakes well I made partially the right move last night by going okay I'm too tired to cut but I'm not too tired to measure and when you're cutting based on measurements and your measurements themselves you're not gonna pass me I got a Hemi bitch sorry I tend to get a little road rage eat this guy tried to go around me in a little Ford Escape and it happening brah do you the v8 bro anyway yeah my wife drives the more powerful car and we call it we call this one the white tank so I measured when I was tired and then I got this morning and I went ahead and instead of double-checking my measurements I went oh I can trust my membership my measurements and started cutting well one of the pass-through fittings now slightly off fortunately it's often a front to back orientation rather than a side to side because that would be harder to fix so there's a slight gap on the backside of the fitting when I large the hole or elongated the hole so I could slide it to where it needs to go and now there's a gap in the back and it's bugging me so what I'm doing now is I'm heading to the hardware store and I'm going to I'm gonna see if I can find me a washer that's big enough to fit the pass-through fitting but also to mask that hole that I can paint black it won't look as good as if you know the pass-through fitting was just mounted into the mid plate without any problems but it'll look better I think that having that there another gap wouldn't even be visible most of the time but it will bother me knowing it's there so this is what we're doing we're gonna see how we can fix this here so as we'll see how it goes for those car guys out there that are wondering more about the car or the Durango it's really not worth mentioning it's got a 40 series flowmaster on it resonators are removed a three inch catback and Canon intake that's it there's nothing else to do there's nothing else worth doing to the car it does have an exhaust leak though and me being the car guy that I am it's very hard to justify fixing an exhaust leak and not replacing with headers but oh well I want to get rid of this car this summer later on this year so I'm not gonna be putting any major work into it but this thing is a torquey monster that's for sure all right so here's what I came up with like regular like galvanized washers and stuff we're way too big in order to get it to fit this fitting this is the pass-through fitting by the way guys this is what I use to go through the floor of the case nothing special it's called a pass-through fitting I picked up these rubber washers here because the only way I could get like galvanized or zinc washer big enough to fit this through was it was like that much bigger than the fitting I was gonna look terrible so I saw these rubber washers here and I thought huh as you can see there they're not too much bigger than the fitting and because they're rubber they are gonna be nice and dull and black and I can easily cut out this hole with a razor blade or something I got a few of these that way I can practice on and then just slip that through and then put the lock washer on the back and then we'll cover up the little gap that I'm trying to fix so there we go that's what I came up with we'll see how well it works well I would say that my idea worked out perfectly so I just took some scissors and a razor blade and I took the giant or the small hole and made this so as you can see I think it worked out flawlessly here's the one in the system that I already did and yeah I think that works out beautifully so before we move on let's go ahead and catch up on what we've done so as you can see I've started the loops here quite a bit so here's the CPU loop right there that's the outlet of the pump it goes up and into the CPU block comes out of the CPU block and it's funny how many people were like normally to do good you don't want on but oh sure you can there's a thing called head pressure and it will push up just fine anyway it comes out of the CPU block up into the radiator out of the radiator and into the reservoir and as you can see the reservoir does have a push down tube installed in there right there so it pushes the fluid down into the fluid in the reservoir now that open port right there I'm thinking about incorporating that with my drain I just haven't decided how I want to do it yet cuz I don't necessarily want to pass the drain through the floor here is the GPU loop right there it comes out of the block I'm not a huge fan of the way the fittings have to be like that the wife says she thinks it looks good I would have liked to have seen it be just straight up a bend into it I know I could have done it with the tube the problem is where the reservoir or the pumps are won't line up with the rest of the GPU blocks if I use too 90s now I have lots and lots and lots of fittings I mean bags and bags and bags of fittings provided by performance PCs and whatnot but the problem is if I use two 90s then it's too low on this end if I use a night an extender over there then it's too low on that end and I just couldn't get him to line up but I think that that's a small sacrifice right there in terms of looks and I think it looks fine with me and it really doesn't bother me it doesn't bother me as much as that little kink and they'll have the bend it on the old tube or the old system but I think it's coming along nicely so now I've got to go ahead and now I've got to take care of that hole right there which is going to be a pass-through for the GPUs and then we can get the bottom plumbed up the only thing I really need to do on the bottom is install both radiators and I haven't decided yet if I'm gonna do flex hose down here I'm probably gonna have to do flex hose at least between the two radiators and then the you know inlet and outlet or however they're going to be I didn't want to do a mixture of flex and ptg and I'm not gonna really have a choice because I have to get the radiators in there and even though the bottom floor does come out and you can see that the the bottom down here is not solid as you can see there I can just undo those screws and remove that panel at the bottom and have access to the entire lower compartment and the reason why that's there in the case labs cases is they do have pedestals so it would give you access to the pedestal on the bottom and past up through it through the case if you use the pedestal as you can see on the way the pumps are mounted I do have them the wiring like completely tucked away back there with holes drilled as they go through the back you can see the red and black but that's because the heat shrink even though it's on there as tight as I can get it as close as I can get it that's quite the bend I did sleeve them as you can see gray and black these are the power cables right here for the pumps and then this right here is actually where my fan header goes for the lower radiators so that's where the the fans are going to go for the lower read and I think I'm gonna take the lower radiators and it's very dusty they I'm gonna take the lower radiators off of the smart control and because I've got so much more radiator space and I need I think I'm just gonna put on the slow-speed adapters and let the them just always blow on a very slow speed well as you can see the systems not done as much as it might look like it it's kind of missing coolant and stuff but you can see we got the wiring in and stuff but we're gonna do a more in-depth look at this a little bit later on but I have spent now about a solid week on this and I'm a little bit tired of it I always get really tired of it so I decided rather than trying to proactively answer questions that I think people are gonna ask and then still get asked a bajillion times I went ahead and did a hashtag on Twitter called ask skunkworks where you guys could ask your questions that I would answer kind of the more popular ones or maybe questions I felt would answer more questions then maybe some of the more generic less specific so anyway I'm gonna go ahead and take the Twitter right now we're gonna answer some of those questions all right so Joey G on Twitter asks is this your favorite computer you ever built for yourself or someone else you know I think the reality here Joey is that I am never a hundred percent satisfied I am never ever done tinkering updating or messing around with systems so is it my favorites I would say it's I like it more than my last one obviously there's been upgraded hardware in here but I wouldn't say it's necessarily my favorite cuz I don't think I have favorites as weird as that is Zhu Shiba says are you happy with the case you got from case labs or would you have gone with something different after having built in it well Zhu Shiba this is not my first time building in the SMA eight but red mist was the first time I built in one the case was actually fairly new at that time and I fell in love with the case during that build so this is actually my fourth time building in an SMA eight one time for red mist and this is now my third time building in my own case and I absolutely love the layout of the SMA eight if you have the space for it because the thing is freaking massive it doesn't look like it on camera plenty of people say it doesn't look that big it's freaking huge Heath Dedmon asks what made you think about naming it skunk works well if I always wanted to be a naval aviator and I loved military aviation now one of my favorite manufacturers of military equipments for aviation is Lockheed Martin and their advanced development programs or ADP is actually called skunk works and when I got the case this was actually the very first case labs case made in gunmetal in the SMA a trim that was actually put out for production I had the very first one all of the glamour shots from their website is of my exact case and I thought that the gunmetal looked very stealthy and when I thought stealth I thought Lockheed Martin I thought skunk works so I put the two together and that's why she's called skunk works now because she stinks or anything although she does get a little stinky at times Robyn H asks if you had to choose a new color scheme for the build and couldn't use yellow what would you choose well to be honest at the risk of being called an absolute fanboy I would have loved the gunmetal with an NVIDIA green and not because I'm a huge fan of Nvidia but because I am a fan of that color scheme a dark contrast with a bright green in paint ball I liked bright colored paintball markers I had black and yellow guns and I even had green guns before and I think that bright green looks really good at pops especially with white LEDs I didn't switch to yellow because yellow is my favorite color and that's why we went with yellow in this build something else I think would have looked really good in here though would have been more of like a monochrome which would have been gunmetal white and black but that's becoming more and more common especially now with the x99 deluxe from Asus and the MSI crate edition I thought it would have been a little bit too mainstream so I just went ahead and stuck with the yellow Jamie McGinnis McGinnis sorry I'm mutilating your name he asks or she I guess it could be both what was the hardest part about building skunk works and why did you decide to build such a big sexy ass beast of the PC well to be honest there's not really anything hard in this system it's just very time-consuming lots of measuring lots of cutting as you guys saw earlier I kind of screwed it up so time was spent fixing that things that would have really taken a lot of time and been difficult would be custom case mods which is things like you know PC junky mods does Richard suros Darth Beavis things like what they do that's hard and you've got to have a lot of knowledge and a lot of tool craftsmanship and very creative to be able to do that sort of stuff and the reason why I don't is because I don't even have a garage that I can work in so this is my workspace and I can't do hard stuff in here Adrian asks how strong is your radiators and what do you need three Titan X s isn't it enough with one or two well first of all my radiators are strong enough to do clean deadlifts and second of all why do one or two when I can do three Titan X's 3 is bigger than two and one last time I checked this is a good one hip hip isn't he busting on Twitter epic beard by the way if money or sponsors were no object what things would you like to do to skunkworks you know to be honest this is pretty much a No Limits build there's not really anything I would have or could have changed in this build I mean the 59 60 X is already the top end Intel i7 that you can get without doing dual CPUs which a motherboard like that wouldn't have fit in this case anyway for Titan X's as much as it would be awesome and I actually would have been able to do it I could have gotten another type next the scaling on it is so bad and the heat output would have been so high and the power draw would have been so great that 3 is really my sweet spot if you guys remember when I was benchmarking my 7 80s in this office I was dimming the lights in the house and I'm a little worried about what the circuit on a 50 year old house like this the 15 amp circuit would do when doing benchmarking on 4 type Nexus so to keep things safe and to keep my house from catching fire this is pretty much the max build that I could do which was fairly limitless and damn am i lucky to be able to do that it's really a weird life now jedd 1920 says do you ever feel that you will make another project that will replace skunkworks I'm sure it will be replaced someday something new and more exciting in terms of case will come out really cases are kind of the central focal point of the builds and right now the SMA is still my absolute favorite case on the market so until that changes I don't see there being any drastic changes with the system I mean after all this has been an evolution of the PC a staple for my channel as long as my channels been around and it's gone everywhere from an 81 20 AMD FX all the way up to the 59 60 X so to answer your question yes at some point it will outdo itself it's outdoing itself right now from where it was a week ago and that's kind of the way we're gonna keep this ball rolling so it doesn't roll over top of me cuz that think it's freaking heavy here's one I get asked all the time and this is from Logan he says what's your reasoning of doing separate loops temps noise what yeah all of the above I can control the temperature of the GPUs independent of the CPU and I can control the fans independently and have the GPU fans ramped up or in this case I'm actually not going to control those fans I'm going to keep them spinning slow based on load and different things happening with the system when I'm rendering I don't need the GPU fans to be going full speed I need the CPU fans to speed up and same thing with gaming I don't need the CPU fans to speed up I need the GPU fans to speed up but in this case I went with way more surface area than I need on radiators that way I can keep the speeds slow so I might not even control these things at all separate loops also means that if I have a problem with one component like say the CPU or the GPUs or a GPU I can lis completely drain one or the other without having to affect the other and then have to deal with bleeding a massive loop and refilling it again so it keeps things segregated Joey G once again asking did you think skunkworks would be as big as it is in the computer community I'll be honest with you I'm surprised it's as big as it is or it's widely known as it is because there's really not a whole lot special about it it has high-end hardware in there and it's got bent tubes and stuff but I'm not the first to do that I'm not the last to do that and I'm not the best to do it so I don't know why it's as popular as it is maybe it's because a lot of the modding communities don't have representatives in there that have huge YouTube channels so maybe it's just more the fact there's more people watching my build than say forums and things but men there are so many better builders out there I mean we're talking like world class builders I already mentioned it before Darth beetus PC junkie mods MP Tech that bill Owen those guys are freaking gods at what they do Lee Harrington Darth Beavis or Richard sorrows and bill Owen those three alone are the world class representatives of custom pcs this doesn't hold a candle to anything that those guys do if you don't believe me just go look up their work or just go to any freakin PC Magazine and you'll find something of theirs and just about every addition alright and me asks not me but me on social media says now that you did a PT G build on skunkworks how did it compare to acrylic tubing and how long to heat both all right well PE T G gets softer at a lower temperature so I have to heat it as much it's much more malleable I can get very tight bends on there and it's much much more durable than acrylic let me go ahead and demonstrate I've got two pieces no I'm not gonna take out a hammer and start smashing them again this time I've got two pieces of tube here this is PE T G and this is acrylic based on the recommendation of people saying go out and get yourself a tube bender rather than having to cut with a saw I went out and bought one but there's a reason why I never use one of these before and I'm gonna go ahead and show you guys why now when it comes to putting this thing on to the PE T G you just kind of clamp it on where you want to cut and then you go round and round and round and round and round and you just keep tightening as you go and as you go around you eventually will cut through the tube this actually works on copper it works on this btg it works on galvanized it in fact a lot of people use big ones like this to cut things like muffler pipes and things like that it's very common in mechanic's plumbers this is how most people do it but as you can see it takes quite a little bit to cut all the way through this thing but as you can see once you do it's much cleaner you know how the shavings everywhere you just file this down and it's nice and smooth allow me to demonstrate why I never used it on acrylic this is the exact same sized tube as that one there which is a 10 by 13 10 millimeter opening 13 millimeter exterior same exact piece the moment I'll go farther down the moment you clamp it down and start cutting it it basically will crack on you did you hear that now I didn't do it any different than I do with the PPT G now let's look at that so that's what happened to the acrylic right there the moment you start clamping it down tighter to cut so that's why I never used one of those with acrylic well that's the end of part three here of the skunkworks vlog it actually took place over two days I'm gonna go ahead and edit this now put it up I know it's a little bit longer because the QA but the last of the parts I need to get this thing filled will be here tomorrow and we will go ahead and do an epic conclusion to the skunkworks update and then that will be followed with benchmarks and things once I get all the software loaded back on this my SSD main drive didn't change but I do have to get all of my other hard drive stuff backed up and then moved over so I will take a little bit of time but anyway guys thanks for watching and as always you guys have made all of this possible this has nothing to do with me being an awesome person or anything like that this has to do with you guys being awesome viewers because if you guys weren't watching these companies wouldn't be interested in sending me these parts to see what kind of cool builds I can come up with that just makes this really a freaking dream job so with always guys thank you for that and in order to say thank you let's just say in the future there might be something you guys don't want to miss trust me on that might involve one of my 90 days all right guys
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