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Tech Talk #149 - AMD and Intel merge forces?!?

2017-11-09
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intro Jerry is poor Jerry is poor missed the perfect stream there you like Nigeria is poor Jerry is poor good night it is not as much as was before Jerry I've got a full circle my friend they could be a new state column right there man let's have everyone TechTalk number 149 I feel like we need to restart it and just say Tech Talk - Tech Talks number two this is Tech Talk number two you starting over well I hate my background looks at different yours looks the same no it's true it's like it's like Stargate Atlantis dude you gotta you gotta start over it's a whole new series it says like Tech Talk Tech Talk sp1 this is a Tech Talk of Lana's let me go ahead and poop out my chat there we go I like to pop it out and then stretch it out you know I'm saying that way you can see it okay already tweet out the stream it kind of does it automatically it's that generically I started a live stream I need to get what I see it already could I need to be able to go out there and like change that like 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never we will never stick to it if we if we try and do it too quickly so what we're gonna do we have a couple topics we want to talk about we have some segments that I like today like for instance rant of the week where we just talk and I'm trying really hard not to kick my power cord and the stream because it's like read by my feet don't do it man that had that happened to PD excellent for me when the guy right opposite of me on the table just like unplugged my entire power strip he's like yeah yeah but at least you can do it yourself that's true uh my goodness um so headline will just get right into the headline news because there's a couple different segues here um so raja Kotori who you guys know is the leader of Radeon technologies group or AMD it makes fashion bags you got one of them their new Raja dewy handbag mmm-hmm movie The Times report people seriously anyway he was hired by AMD two years ago to head up the RTG which is when AMD kind of separated Radeon from the sister for the parent company of AMD and Raja has been at the helm ever said so the whole rx series as you know it 400 series and 500 series and then Vega was with him at the helm now he went on sabbatical back in September so Vega launched you know lots of around the around-the-clock type of nights and working hard so he took a sabbatical exactly forty days actually at which time he was supposed to come back to the company in December if he hasn't no sabbatical means it's basically like a long time it's a long paid vacation basically yep and so what what he was was come back in December he end up sending a letter internally to the company explaining that he's he's very proud of what the team has done he's very proud of what they've accomplished and the trajectory which the Radeon group is headed but that he has decided that he is going to be stepping away from AMD and gay you know and they gave all of the usual fluff of like you know all the Pat's on the back and all that stuff on the same day that Intel announced that they are teaming up with AMD to bring vage I still don't believe by the way I know it's true but I goes AMD and Intel have confirmed this that they are teaming up to battle in videos notebook market to bring ultra powerful ultra thin notebooks their complaint is that notebook sure there are powerful notebooks out there but look what you sacrifice okay they might have heat and the amount of size and the amount of power draw you need sighting you know notebooks of 24 inches or 20 to 24 just stick 24 millimeters thick that's why I have this piece of shit but imagine so what what AMD and Intel are planning to do is bring a laptop that is that form factor but without sacrificing any performance so what they're going to be doing is teaming up for radeon apu levels of performance and intel's better compute performance and bringing the two together which is kind of maybe that's why we haven't seen a lot of rise and based notebooks coming out so there's a rumor and guys this is a rumor i am i'm report on a rumor so please take this with face value is the rumor is that the timing looks an awful lot like Raja might be going to Intel also - there's another rumor because of course stuff like this really churns the rumor mill right you're not listening to me we talked about this no I'm Leslie you know mom smack it down somebody for saying I'm not listening to you okay focus this is in our contract mister that's a little too focused alright so we're in the mid so now we have to think about this from business perspective if you're used to competing with AMD and you have and if let's say someone like Raja did actually move to Intel you would think there'd be some sort of a non-compete disclosure right there'd have to be you'd think there'd have to be so while again if it's true that he's possibly moving to Intel that would have to mean one of two things either Intel paid him enough to just like walk away and then and and deal with the non-compete suit that would come of it yeah like likely fighting legal money right or or potentially there's a merger taking place that's what I believe is happening that's more that's where my money is yeah they can free cuz the other thing too is is technically like if he's moving did this is the part this is this where it blows my mind oh wait hold on hold on hold on hold on they say that Raja has already confirmed he's at Intel Oh done deal so that's gotta mean over in my opinion that means a mergers coming because it's got to be there's got to be because you know there's gonna be a non-compete dude there is no way the int like like the AMD wouldn't sue that ever living shit out of Intel for for sniping an employee at that level like it's got to be in his contract yeah there's a no-compete for at least like three years or this actually makes me happy do you know why because intel has the money to actually make this happen and by this I mean actually bringing a fight to Nvidia Intel said five years ago 2012 Intel made an announcement that they wanted to create graphics to compete with Nvidia and what's funny about this is there was a rumor that there was a rumor that Intel actually tried to try to team up with Nvidia to do this very thing and NVIDIA basically shot them down in Intel basically was like okay fine we'll get you where we can get you just you just be ready kind of a thing that was like five six years ago yep wouldn't this be awesome to see NVIDIA for once get the Intel infect which is basically where you got so complacent and so just so comfortable with where you are that some up finally something comes around like Rison and thread Ripper to I should shake the tree if you guys don't know X 299 which launched back in May was supposed to be launching now this fall like just about now so that means they pulled it in six months because of the pressure they felt from AMD right maybe they can do it to Nvidia I can see that happening but but the interesting thing too is like you said it's kind of like that the Intel bump you have a company with so many resources and a company that was predominantly know for being in bed with Nvidia at least to some extent right uh and now they're using subsidiary of AMD or like one of their daughter companies basically Radeon right like you said there is a degree of separation there but they are for all intensive purposes owned by AMD intel's chief competitor everyone's saying non-compete is illegal in California AMD is in Texas guys it wouldn't do any good so compete the compete contracts like I had when I had one with Microsoft had a non-compete that said that I couldn't go work for any other technical company in the same capacity that I worked for Microsoft which means if I went to another company I would have had to be a developer in something that I wasn't an expert at Microsoft I can still be a developer but I couldn't say like go be an expert at sequel Microsoft sequel server or something like that at Google do you remember when we first were about three years ago we were talking about this potential merger between AMD and Samsung and do you remember how we were hoping that as Samsung would get dump money into the into the Rd to be able to actually make things happen I firmly believe that AMD's lack of power efficiency improvements on radiant vega specifically just due to the amount of money they don't have to spend on R&D now the argument always was but look they have all the consoles all the consoles rumor has it they broke even and or lost money on every console cell it was just about getting market share and which looks good to investors so if you can go to your investors and say we've got market share and a good investor would be like well it looks like you're losing money but it's about investing in the future what if now they have the money like what if Intel's like you've got a five billion dollar over the next 36 months to invest in R&D do you think do you think AMD can actually then make something happen because they have the capital needed oh absolutely I think I think AMD sprint like you said their principle limiting factor is just the revenue because now that they worked really hard to bring like rise in the market and then thread Ripper and it's gonna take a long time before they see a huge return on that investment yeah like the R&D that when it everything so I'm pretty sure they pretty much blew their whole wad building that up so it's like they've got very little spread around but if you got Intel writing a blank check I think they have the skills I think they've proven they have the skills and the technology to do it they just don't have the money the resources and the time yeah and Intel's kind of buying them that now another thing is Intel's got our Nvidia has got to be getting worried because Intel has always kind of had a good relationship with Nvidia publicly anyways right I don't know what goes on around this Heath but even working at Microsoft I saw how clear there was a relationship between Intel and NVIDIA it's just kind of weird to see Nvidia playing with the enemy now maybe AMD and Intel AMD and Intel seeing those two play together and the other thing is how are they gonna do that without creating any kind of competition to AMD itself because think about it I mean they are putting graphics on chip and the capacity of an APU which is something AMD is already doing so even though they're working with a Radeon division to do this they are directly competing with AMD APU now correct I feel like this is successful yeah well we've we've all been waiting for rise in Pro right and or not necessary resident pro but rise n does mobile compute graphic or I can talk mobile computing like laptops and stuff we saw a couple at Computex we've seen a couple sense in like I had one I was supposed to review an Asus one that just never came about or whatever I think that's because this this was happening so I think AMD might have put put the brakes on a lot of the the atom partners for like the notebooks and stuff like whoa whoa well pump the brakes hold on we got something coming just hold off because a lot of these were like being custom-built right by the many fighters so I think I'd be perfectly okay with seeing AMD kind of get just completely enveloped by the Intel corporate umbrella are not necessary AMD the Radeon graphics division I am okay with seeing Radeon graphics subsidy subsidiary of AMD be consumed by Intel I'm okay with that because AMD will still compete on their CPU side of things but I desperately want to see I desperately want to see Nvidia and Jen's sons like smirk wiped off the face you know what else might happen here - this might be a little bit of a stretch but think about it this way it would be illegal for Intel to acquire AMD technically it would make momen awfully in the cpu division so they couldn't straight up and I'm talking about real talk about acquiring the chip manufacturer AMD but remember they're two separate companies they're only dealing with radio know right right but my point being is because Radeon is a subsidiary of AMD and it gives them access and they're gonna be using similar APO technology and everything what if this is a grab it kind of a legal loophole to work through Radeon to have direct control over AMD and even though they remain separate companies they start literally working together to make the rival chips and then they start price fixing the market and they control both markets how is that any different that was it has it any different though between what iPhone or Apple and Samsung have been doing yeah the only difference being is that like Apple and Samsung aren't direct they're not directly embed together right I mean they use some of the same components and stuff like that but you don't have one person driving both companies from behind the scenes right there so there's a lot of unanswered questions I mean it's just is there we remember where'd you think of that remember we're talking about a rumor right Roger going to Intel doesn't mean Intel it's going to acquire am AMD's Radeon technologies division we are we are hypothetically speaking here but III obviously don't know enough what the legal aspect of the fault it is confirmed that they are gonna work on them with it with like an APU capacity like combat that is confirmed but what we are now doing is we're putting together the pieces of Raja moving there and now them teaming up for it on graphics or on chip graphics with Intel based CPUs makes it look like this could be the the foundation for a merger you know the other thing too is that could have been in and I've seen this happen before to at high-level deals it could have been a part of the actual deal the the merger between Intel will not merger but the deal between Intel and Radeon graphics basically to acquire him because he could run the show better on that side and it would look better to the investors overall right if he was working it from that side because we give investors confidence because he's like the dude that works on all that now he's sitting in a position to control both the Intel and the Radeon site one position what's happened to AMD stock today won't you take a look let's go take a look that's actually a good question because I'd imagine there's something big like this would shock it into some some direction AMD needs to stand on its own is what ignition Chet said down five down five percent hold on here at eleven dollars and twelve cents let me look at the trend hold on for the week I still think that's normal for an announcement like this it had a pretty sizable jump almost a dollar so almost ten percent on the six and then it climbed up to about a twelve dollar and then it started coming off and then I had a huge drop yesterday right and now it's holding steady again which I think could potentially be the right time to buy no the right time to buy would have been when it was one dollar and we were joking about it right even now I'd say honestly I'm tempted to actually just go buy some myself imagine around what ten it's at eleven dollars right now so when it was when it was a dollar and we were like oh my god they're out to drop below a dollar maybe we had spent if we just put $10,000 into it which is which would be very feasible a very doable investment right two years ago we could have seen 11x growth in two years on that so would be cashing out a hundred and ten thousand dollars before all of your taxes and stuff but man or you could have just bought a shitload of Bitcoin like last year when it was down at like a hundred and fifty dollars after the crash or whatever and I was like seven thousand dollars a coin which i think is probably a reasonable thing to say which is more risky AMD or Bitcoin based on the trend obviously we know the answer to that question now but if I was looking at it back then I didn't know I would always say that the cryptocurrency would have been the riskier market but holy crap it whoa okay but there's all kinds of risk involved right so why don't you talk about your topic oh yeah so this is funny so how many people in chat have heard that aetherium 300 roughly 300 million dollars of aetherium has gone missing three hundred million dollars three hundred million dollars worth of etherium we're talking about a joto currency that's only worth about $300 per unit versus Bitcoin which is like 7,000 now uh now what had happened was a company called let me see if I could pull him up here I want to see which company it was okay so so anyways to see it it was accidentally lost first of all this wasn't an attack this wasn't anything anything intentional this was something that accidently happened but it was an online wallet that did it and it was some tournament let me find the name of the online wallet it's like proxy or parousia why the hell don't they have in this article so anyway it's an online wallet so it says more than 300 million dollars of cryptocurrency has been lost after a series of bugs and the popular digital wallet service led one curious developer to accidentally take control of them then lock up the funds according to reports I'm trying to find then the OL parity that's what it is the parity wallet so if you guys use the parity online wallet kind of like the online wall it's like coinbase you'd use for Bitcoin in etherion well parity this online wallet service one of their developers and his infinite wisdom he goes by the name DevOps $1.99 uh basically wrote a piece of code that took all of the wallets cuz remember as an online wallet they have access to everybody's wallets they basically manage your wallet just like a bank would manage your bank account well he wrote a piece of code that basically went through and moved everybody's wallet funds into one wallet like one master wallet essentially it's a little bit more complicated than that but then when he realized the error of his mistake because it was completely accidental he didn't mean to do this he moved everything in there he deleted the transaction instead of moving and refunding all the money back to those wallets and as soon as he deleted the transaction it basically went into the blockchain which is the ledger that keeps track of everything and disconnected the wallet from being accessible so the wallet is now lost forever with 300 million dollars sitting in it now the only way to fix this is because because the way cryptocurrency works is it's kind of a democracy if whoever all the nodes that run out on the net on the cryptocurrency Network all run a certain version of the software and if one of them changes the version of the software the other ones basically ignore it unless the majority are running the app version so you need 51% of everybody to be running a certain code base otherwise it doesn't get accepted the only way to fix this now they're saying is to get 51% of the network and keep keep in mind there's thousands of these notes right tens of thousands of these nodes out there they have to get 51% of them to agree to a code change that would undo this error but this is like something that's never happened before nobody's gonna go for this yeah if it doesn't happen this gets orphan forever this money could never be accessed again well I mean if you're the guy that's got like fractions of an aetherium and on the line here then you just kind of like whatever but if you're the guys that have like big big amounts of ethereum in there yeah you probably would want to go for it cuz what's I mean what's the what's the ramifications long-term of this code change if they go in and they accept the code change across the board to basically undo this transact this specific transaction the ramifications is that other people are gonna come forward because there's a president set for it and then they're gonna want their transactions undone also I say and then you get in this huge voting war where you have people bringing up thousands and thousands of nodes that try to corner the market and become the 51% share of the network yeah so so it can be a bad thing I mean in all honesty it's probably better to let the 300 million remain orphan than to try to allow a code change to be accepted now usually the way that the code changes work like in the Bitcoin network and stuff is everybody accepts a code change that helps make the blockchain smaller or makes it more efficient and more and more efficient on network bandwidth and power consumption and stuff like that usually the entire network accepts those openly and they propagate throughout the network and then you have the next version of Bitcoin in this case they would actually be propagating a change for the purpose of recovering lost currency now even though it was a mistake the currency was lost through a legitimate action be at the wrong action somebody who had access to those wallace was them able to bring all those funds together and then orphan the wallet which is something that's completely you know normal and you're able to do that within the network but it's something that should have never happened you know the guy literally just panicked this is a guy that panicked and he was like oh shit I stole everybody's wallets they're gonna fucking get mad and then he instead of him refund going through and refunding each transaction he quickly wrote a piece of code that went in and deleted the wallet thinking that deleting it would undo all the transactions but by deleting the wallet all he did was just orphan it lose all the money how or does one guy have this much power because the wallet they were the wallet so it's basically like the bank like if you were that if you ran your credit union for instance right you could walk in and presumably open up the vault adjust to empty everything out and put it in a truck pour gasoline on it light it on fire and it except for if we're using as an analogy there's a ton of safeguards there's a security guard there's a security gate you know bulletproof glass of punch code thumbprint code it's like tons of things to keep someone from being able to do that so this one guy through is through haste 300 million dollars I mean this is this way mr. Kerbel makes us commit suicide over this oh yeah yeah no no no I'm sure thing is is I'm sure that some of those wallets were huge high-dollar wallets like it wasn't like a million little wallets they had like 50 bucks in them this was probably a couple of wallets in there to add people's life savings invested I feel like I feel like this is the kind of thing that like regulatory boards like to use as ammunition of why something like this needs to be government regulated and they will they absolutely will because just like you know banks are like FDIC insurance some dude goes and shoots up the place you don't lose your money it gets given back cryptocurrency has no such safeguards I mean this company I mean they can get sued right everybody can see the shit out of the parity wallet for losing their money but that's a civil case that's not a federal case so these people aren't gonna get their money it's a guy who deleted Trump's Twitter was that real the Trump's Twitter really get deleted yes it's 11 minutes right that would've been awesome though I did see some tweets going around of like that Twitter account doesn't exist for the at real Donald Trump yeah I was like what I thought that was just like a Photoshop I never I'd never bother looking into it I'm sorry but Trump and any search doesn't usually cross my bar apparently it was a ha it was an employee that had access to delete Twitter account any Twitter account right they were like I'm an enforcement team and it was their last day there and on their way out the door they decided to do that and apparently Twitter now is looking into actually prosecuting the person for malicious use of the system and stuff like that you know you try I'm sure Trump is being a dick about this and like instead of fixing like the flooding in some country or something he's probably more focused on just getting the guy punished delete this Twitter account for 11 minutes cuz I just kind of dude he is yeah well hmm well that guy's gonna be dead we're gonna we're in here on the news that that dude like drowned in his bathtub or something both of them the etherium guy and this I'm telling you right now man this is this is the divulged his name dude the user DevOps $1.99 so everybody knows and you just voted to Thanks well I mean it's in every single article at least lets people do the legwork to fill in IRS I gotta go see this this guy has a Twitter though no sorry I have to go see if he has a Twitter cryptocurrency is just fake money you keep in someone else's pocket but then so is actual money that's true there's a there's a you know I can I can actually prove that that's not true well vice actually did a really good video about actual like physically Bank back to currency or gold-backed currency whatever versus the actual cash that is in the world and how how digital currency compounds but it's not actually backed by enough cash in the world to actually back the amount of paper / digital currency we have floating around so it's like if everyone called in every debt ever there wouldn't be enough money in the world to cover it like not even a fraction yeah yeah it's pretty it was pretty an interesting really makes you think about why cold hard current not currency but the actual like precious metals and stuff that currency is based on is so valuable yeah the other thing that I would like to add to what that one person said about putting your money in somebody else's wallet ultimately they have control that's actually one of the things that cryptocurrency protects you against is if you have a bank account right you put your money into the bank account that bank account for whatever folds or the US government freezes your assets whatever you no longer have access to that money right well the nice thing about cryptocurrency is you actually can replicate the blockchain to your local computer and keep your own ledger in your own copy of the ledger and as long as 51% of the network doesn't vote that ledger out which like we said just doesn't happen right if that doesn't happen then you own that and there's no way you go anywhere in the world at any time and come on and transact in and out of that blockchain yeah and with nobody else having their hands on you would just propagate the change through the network and I would see it cuz everybody has a copy of it any transaction you do on the network it's not one person as your money it's everybody that's ever done anything with the currency has a reference to that money and proof that it's there right so it's actually quite safe a lot of people don't think it's a it is as long as you're not using an online wallet if you but then it's just like a bank right if they fold or fuck up they take your money I mean it comes out it just comes all the way down to the risk you're willing to take though on a volatile market yep yeah it is it and that's exactly what is it's no different than the stock market it can go up and go down it's controlled by supply and demand and you know it's just that's how it is yeah nobody can predict the shit I know people that have been in cryptocurrency for years this swore to God that you know a Bitcoin was gonna crash 80 times and one of them even convinced me to sell all mine last year like 300 dollars a coin and now today both of us are kicking ourselves in the teeth cuz I mean I'm sure he sold like 5000 aren't they north of like 6,000 dollars a corner now 7200 less and the last time you showed me it was 6000 some when you were down here no no when I when I was down there I think was 5000 we were saying wow that's the highest it's ever been it's gone up like another 2 grand this is like this is like a housing bubble it can't sustain it can't sustain no no it has to crash at some point but the thing is wind right it could go up another 7,000 dollars before it finally crashes but when it does can take a lot a lot of people with it okay I am gonna ask you a very basic question regarding cryptocurrency that I think a lot of people are probably asking themselves out there sure what okay cryptocurrency currently alright so Bitcoin has a value of over 7,000 dollars per coin right mm-hmm what's actually backing that coin to give it its value nothing just the fact that people will can spend it and people are accepting it all you need to be a currency is something I can trade you that's making you willing to give me something in return for it that's all that makes it a currency right yeah justjust just like any fiat currency the dollar bill that's in your wallet that used to be back isn't backed anymore and it's not even you know it's worth the paper it's written on but there's no guarantee that's always gonna be the right the only the only worth that money has is what worth is put on it by us as a people like for instance with crypto currencies they all they all vary right aetherium could gobble that coin goes down and vice versa and what it all comes down to us how many people are accepting it how many transactions are happening on the network how much currency is coming in versus how much currency is being acquired and spend and transacted all those factors are what dictate that the cost but at the end of the day it's whatever people pay for it right now so there's only five coins in 8,000 people want those five coins it's gonna be 7,000 dollars a coin right yeah well it's just it's one of the things I'm I just I'm so I guess I'm so old-fashioned in my mind am i it's gonna be something behind it given its drive but I guess just tape electrons I guess if you want to get down to a J it's electron currency backed by the electricity that was used to mine it well I mean I guess it's I guess it's very true like the which is why it'd be penny and the United States is so obsolete because it cost more than opinion to make a penny yeah right in fact it's getting to the point to where the same that nickel is actually more expensive to manufacture than the nickel cost there is worth yep and they've been trying to phase out the penny for a long time but the problem is our economic system works in so many fractions of a dollar and a cent and there's so many uneven numbers it's like how do you get by without a penny I mean pretty soon they're gonna just stop making them out of I think right now they don't even make them we had a copper anymore do they know they haven't done that in forever yeah it's like the original ones were all copper now they're like what tin with copper plated tin or something it's like some alloy but pretty soon it won't even be that pretty soon it's gonna be like paper mache dipped in like Plasti Dip or something like I mean they're gonna have to keep you in Cheaper cheaper to manufacture J no major currency has it backing we already talked about that we talked about that earlier so I mean I'm not naive enough to think that like there's enough gold in the world gold and silver to actually back the paper currency even we were talking about that I was saying that's why actually having gold and silver is probably the best investment you can have in terms of physically owning something I think the best way that I would explain it is if we were at war like if a war broke out tomorrow and everything would shoot each other and stealing each other's food and clothes and stuff you're not gonna walk into a store and offer them a hundred dollar bill for like a can of beans they're not gonna take it right because that money has absolutely no worth and now the beans is worth a billion dollars well think of Zombieland right they were like wiping their nose and you know using two $100 bills this toilet paper and stuff because it meant nothing but and that's exactly what would happen right the only reason money means anything is we make it mean something that's it same thing with cryptocurrency like cryptocurrency is just this magical thing the only so much if it gets distributed every so many minutes or so many hours then that gets distributed a couple of people if there's more people that want the currency than what currency is available the cost goes through the roof that's just how it works I'm seeing it's a bronze alloy it's a tin alloy a zinc it doesn't really matter at the bottom lines adamantium unicorn the bottom line is it cost more to make it than it's actually worth it's one of those things like when I went to Taiwan for the first time earlier this year for Computex of course I did get money exchange and pull money out you know so I had local currency to use for the places that didn't take visa or whatever yeah so they have what's called the new Taiwanese dollar and it was kind of interesting because they don't have cents right it's just dollars everything's dollars but of course if it everything seems super expensive right so this this this veinte caramel macchiato in Taiwan cost $200 right but it's really it's it and it's funny it's like oh I made the comment to Paul Paul's hardware actually which was we he made a very good point I was like oh that's kind of cool that they don't have sense this stuff here is like yeah but everything's so expensive and once you once you look at how much things cost and each dollar becomes the cent right so it's like yeah one hundred and fifty five dollars so you walk around with like a hundred thousand dollar note it's like three bucks it's like not a lot right stop a bunch of the Taiwanese money which I actually brought back to the states with me but it was under ten thousand dollars in value so it was perfectly legal but it was just funny ouch so their coins of course are our dollars so it's like a fifty dollar coin you know yeah it's like similar to yen right I've heard like in Japan you go and it's like you buy a car it's like 1.5 billion yen or something for like a Honda Civic or some shit yeah I was on I was on Ray's website the other night looking up the replacement stickers for my wheels and of course it was like it was like 2500 yen for the sticker you know what I mean yeah it's like super duper at least what it's like the currencies just lots of it to make a little but anyway crazy so speaking of Nvidia and all that stuff there was another announcement that was made while we were on our way to PDX land and that was that of the new titan collector's edition have you seen it Jerry I have not once you go look it up real quick so you can see it we're about to talk about here I received a teaser email from Nvidia that was a link to a YouTube video where they were teasing the new Titan XP collector's edition it's another one of those bullshit swear it's like nothing new it just looks different what they've done is they've jumped on the Star Wars train where they've got two different collector's editions they have a they have a Rebel Alliance and like you know dark order whatever it is right the red oh they're like a themed okay right so as a red one and a green one and it's it's all custom based on Star Wars so they're trying to jump on that I have no idea what the cost is because I haven't seen it in terms of cost but as somebody that's getting a new system built tomorrow you were saying um what do you even care about this custom I want to pull the audience - do you guys even care about these custom themed coolers not even remotely I mean they're neat looking but it's like how much longer can you milk Pascal at this point well here's the thing it doesn't look at their RG either either red or green plus your build is themed red or green you're kind of you're kind of fucked well I mean it's based on right light side dark side oh yeah I don't know I get that but it's like at least put some RGB in it or some shit so you can make it match whatever color your kit people are saying it's the same price now let me ask you this you're getting to Titan xpz already have two tekneqs peas in your system so yeah I'm actually trading them out of William into the new one just because we don't want to go get two more Titan X fees if this was fresh and you never put the original type next piece in there for the same price which you've gotten one of these themed ones in that case yes I would which one would you get and why oh I get the Jedi cuz I just like Star Wars and I like the Jedi it's not like green which one would I get you'd get the red why because you're evil as shit and all your shits usually red actually I very rarely use red oh really yeah I've never actually had a red fluid PC well I've had one red fluid PC back in late 2012 2011 hmm which color would you go with in well the green ones would match like skunkworks now it's green see that is true but but if I put them in skunk works and the coolers come off anyway so you know you know what I do like about it though is I liked it at least the design of the card is slightly different like the window is bigger on the green card than the red card the shape in accents are a little bit so it's not like they just change the lighting and put a different thing on it right you know one's kind of rounded once kind of square so it does give you a little bit more options as far as aesthetics go but if you're not doing a Star Wars themed build it seems a little weird to have a Star Wars themed graphics card either that many Star Wars fanatics currently shopping for Titan X piece you know what there's a lot of Star Wars fanatics but I don't know how many of them are gonna be the hardcore gamers build the PCs they want that to be the theme what I kind of love though is is the audience will say stuff like it's overpriced it's stupid no one's buying this if you go to PDX land Titan X's or as common as like soda pop right there are titles everywhere so I mean obvious that the enthusiasts which is exactly why these products exist it's the same price right your same price twelve twelve hundred bucks so if it's the same price I don't know why anybody would be now the one thing I could be seeing happening though is what what quantities are they building these things in oh I don't know now I don't know if there's a limit per customer I couldn't tell I think it might be a limit to per customer because I'm wondering if this is gonna be one of those situations where they don't make and everybody just buys them and then just creates the secondary markets on them for like three and four or five thousand dollars like PC building enthusiasts and who the hell would pay that there's a lot of idiots we knew people that like bought paid like three thousand dollars to buy a goddamn Titan back in the day that's true well at least you got two GPUs on it for the Titan Z but then it was true but that was one of those times where like one plus one equals three and as remember my video my rant I was just like how does one one equal because it was like two $999 GPUs placed on one PCB with an additional 50% cost added to it it's like what the hell you know what this kind of interesting now that I think about it though is how can they offer these at the exact same price is the non themed Titan XP when they have to pay licensing to Disney maybe they're not paying it I don't know video if videos out of business tomorrow oh that's that's route that's actually kind of really weird to think about it because you'd think that just just what the licensing alone that they depth up the price on a significant you think this is just a cash grab though instead of creating a better Titan XP they're just like oh we're just gonna rebrand the Titan and sell it all over again i hasn't Nvidia already kind of proven they're all in it for the cash grab for the last couple you have pretty much pretty much I still like their shit though that's the problem they make really good hardware but it's kind of like the Apple effect right you can hate the company but you can't deny their products are powerful and their work yeah they're good and unless somebody else rivals them they rarely move right it wasn't until which Radeon started producing good GPUs that were really starting to rival them that all sudden we saw like TI's this and Ti that yeah but I think I think the problem is radiata left too much room left too much performance on the table with their power draw versus what you got for the performance where which is why the justification for the 1070 TI was even there but that's why I go full circle and saying we need we we need the Intel a.m. Radeon thing to actually put Nvidia a little bit of a sweaty position to make something happen because I mean this is the pet if Volta doesn't come out until GDC which is in the spring then that that will make Pascale a 2 year a 2 year lifecycle we have never seen a 2 year lifecycle from a video since inception it's been 12 to 18 months at the most and if we don't see Volta until until May that's two years Pascale sat around why because there was no reason to spend the money to make it faster right right and I mean he Intel's honestly guilty of the same exact thing - I like you said they only they only rushed up X 299 cuz it proved it was ready right I mean they rushed it because they had and they pulled coffee Lake in six months as well coffee Lake was yes to be next year and it came out when X 299 was supposed to come out so everything in six plus months on Intel side because of the quote unquote pressure they claimed they weren't feeling when horizon and burst launched mmm well then look right and it but that put a lot of stress on the board partners too because remember Intel doesn't make the motherboards the motherboards are all manufactured by Foxconn and gigabyte and all those guys so it's like suddenly they have to ramp up all their production and what happens when you pull in date and ramped up production problems yeah yeah love way way less QC uh I wonder I wonder if like you said Intel working with Radeon now I wonder if AMD is gonna or the Radeon division is gonna benefit from that work with Intel and a capacity of building a better standalone GPU versus just an APU I don't know like like I wonder if Intel's money and infusion that comes to the tables they're gonna feel not only the development of a better APU on a processor but rather a more energy-efficient and faster GPU which would then give them something that would push Nvidia again to step off this freakin Titan XP and create the Titan X - little P well there's a good way hoax a hoax mash and chest says maybe the tech is hitting its limit there's been a lot of schedule ah there's been a discussion on lately about Moore's law Jensen himself said Moore's law is dead but he said it more in a way that he was trying to say we're moving faster than the rate at double you know annual double increase at y 2x increase annually so I've read that - that we're actually outpacing it yeah so does that all this gen Suns law now I don't know well I think I think Moore's law directly like like kind of indirectly focuses on the theoretical top speed that you can basically achieve in computing I don't think it takes into account that you can eventually hit that limit then just chase other limits right right there's an infinite number of other limits you can chase because like once you hit the top you know we're saying 5 gigahertz in that ballpark is about as fast as you know you're gonna transact electrons across silica or whatever so now what's the next big you know superconducting metal that's coming down that's gonna change that if it doesn't why don't we just create more threads more cores right that's what everything's doing now that's why the freaking CPU I'm getting tomorrow has 14 physical cores and 28 logical cores is is because that now now what happens when you take it a step further and now it's like well now let's change the instructions the CPU can only cycle so fast but we can add or remove instructions to make it even quicker or we can optimize those instructions or we can software that's more optimized that runs across those courses faster I mean there's always another way that you can optimize and keep going faster I think we are a long ways away from hitting all of the limit Moore's laws and tells pricing scheme its licking its lick like ninja that you get credit for that one in chat yeah I don't know I mean everyone likes to peg us fanboys but I'm just as fed up as everyone else you know I don't message me he said Moore's law is as it applies to a single stream not multi proc so that that actually makes sense and I do believe Moore's Law is being observed as far as how fast you can push in terms of a single thread base in terms of silicon and all that I mean you know a transact electron so fast right you start you start running up against the physical limitations of something but then you find you know hacks if you will to work around it there's a good question again it's from slick the same guy that mentioned Intel's more law Moore's law he says do you think we'll ever see 128-bit OS what do you have to say to that ah God well yes the answer is absolutely we we will at some point but I think it'll be a very very very way because reason 2 28 bit OS would be for memory addressing and right now no computer on earth even as close to as much memory as you can address with 64 bits hmm so will it happen yes but probably in like thirty thousand years when everything's like holographic matrices to take up like a billion petabytes 30,000 30,000 years though how about you how about you look at where we've come compared to 8-bit though no that's true but it's it's a it's exponential so so like you can only address four gigabytes of memory with 32 bits but with 64 bits you can it's like a factor of whole lotta news here let's see here 60 for addressing limits coding 1 I think 20 years I said 20 years okay here so how much memory can a 64-bit machine address ok it's it's literally given in formulaic form because the number would be so generous so chances are we probably will never see so yeah I'd be 16 exabytes a physical Ram ok but what if the entire compute platform which we know what changes then that's probably more likely than actually hitting on in 28 bit you think in the truth isn't the fact they've tried to say like things are 128 bit in the past where they've used to 64-bit processors for 32-bit processors like back like that target Jaguar days in the OG oh and all that shit they'd be that was their workaround but they have a truly 128 bit processor would mean that the processor each instruction could address 828 that's a memory and honestly that would slow it down that would not speed it up a 64-bit processor is actually slower than the 32-bit processor because I asked to address more memory Jerry's voice is coming out randomly yeah I know discord is doing that and I can't do anything about it sorry guys sorry about that guys no it's not you it's just the connectional so I don't so honestly I don't think you know in our lifetimes we're not gonna see a true hundred and twenty eight bit because it doesn't there's no real benefit to it that's the big thing is remember the the the number of bits that you have accessible to the processor is directly proportionate to the memory that you're addressing that's really the only significant thing and it's slower because you're having to address more memory which means all the mathematical computations don't have to be of a larger factor and take longer to run I have to imagine that we had we cannot possibly in this be in a situation where this is the only way that computing can be done in the history of mankind and future and Donuts quantum computing already are already exists and that's like I don't even understand that shit it's so different right ok so we've been streaming out for 45 minutes and we've talked about a lot of topics and stuff the only other segment I really want to do is rant of the week do you have anything you feel like ranting about I just want to rant about the iPhone X cuz I hear everybody just seriously like just drill in and jizan all over their pants about it and I'm not I'm not that impressed at all and and full disclosure you and I both have daily driven iPhones and I still do ID I still do my daily drivers and iPhone 7 plus I've got an iPhone 7 plus myself I also have an iPhone 8 plus on the way in that I'm not I didn't buy it it's part of a video thing I'm doing but this is the first iPhone I've used iPhone for its simplicity and I've always been a dual phone carrier right guys if people have noticed in my in some of the backgrounds of my pictures and videos I also have an axon ZTE phone which is a which is kind of like a boutique type of Android phone um but I carry I carry one plus three a lot of people don't see this but that's my second phone and it does have an actual card to end an IMEI so this is like a paid for line this isn't just a piece of hardware yeah I really like my ex on phone there's just a couple things I don't like about that exact exon pro is ET pro those but anyway I digress you know what I digress sometimes I forget where I was going oh okay so ever since the iPhone 4 landed on Verizon and CDMA network I have always used whatever the latest phone was and this is the first time I truly don't give two cents I don't come in the same here same boat same about when it comes to the X I mean like that and even like looking at the the iPhone 8 right because you know they have that they have the iPhone 8 if you don't want to go the whole iPhone X option and I looked at it and like the specs and the camera and everything it's like nothing on it really is pulling hmm yeah I said the over said maybe getting one is because it's being sent to me and I mean he moved away from dual lens too right it's only a single lens camera now though I believe it's still dual lens it just goes up and sideways so it is yeah and that's gotta suck for case manufactures right it's like the only thing that's physically different is the cameras oriented differently so now we have to read to lore cases just to go up and down since I decide oh I swear to God Apple does that on purpose though yeah okay yeah no it's that the iPhone ain't normal one only has one plus has the to the tutor but that was the case for the 7 as well right right so they haven't changed much in that department right but like you said yeah changing the orientation of things just to fuck with case manufacturers I mean get out your dremel but ya know the iPhone X the thing the thing okay so my rant with iPhone X is one it's stupid expensive to even with Apple care it still costs like a ridiculous amount of money to replace the screen if you don't have Apple carrots it's five hundred and some odd dollars and you are gonna replace that screen I'm sorry but that thing is like a bar of soap you are gonna drop that damn thing unless you put it in a really expensive case in which case if you put it in a case you're kind of defeating the whole purpose anyways of having a phone where the entire front of screen is a screen I want I want to talk to the price there real quick yeah see all this hate about thousand dollars per phone thousand dollars for a phone it's a lot of thousand-dollar phones bill but that's the thing phones have cost a thousand dollars for a long time well Deborah just used to paying is network subsidized pricing because they want act because they want you to come to their network so they cut the price of the phone big time the difference is there's no subsidized pricing on the iPhone X so you're paying what the actual phone cost but don't get caught up on the whole thousand-dollar phone that's what it's oh that's what a lot of these phones have always cost so with that argument out of the way I'm really sick I like my feed I'm really mad at my two right now because my twitter feed is full of all these like these phone reviewers and stuff and it's like taking on the iPhone X taking on the iPhone X selfie on the iPhone next you know blah blah blah portrait mode check I don't care oh my god an app I did not subscribe to photo feeds so I've actually started muting a lot of the people I follow lately until we're past like the actual craze I know I'm see I'm seeing the same thing from like my friends they have the iPhone extra like oh my god it's so revolutionary and it's got a screen that's like half as bright is the competitors screen when you watch a video on it has to be in a letterbox mode because it's a weird fucking form factor and it has to stay within the weird little little chunk in the bottom and if you do make it fullscreen it's like the shits covered by your earpiece cut out at the top it's like you have a square screen for a reason because content is designed to play on a square street well it's like it seems like the only thing people can really talk about especially the reviewers the only thing they seem to really be talking about is the display or color shift and what selfies are like it's like that's what is that where we've evolved to where the actual and they see and these videos are getting millions of views right millions of views because they're talking to the average ibrid cellphone pleb out there everywhere all they care about it's how well they can take their selfies and this is my rant obviously the power of gimmicks right it's like how well does this phone take a picture at this flower how well does it take a picture of my face and blur the background artificially took I don't care it's like if if a thousand dollar phone the only thing you can show me is what the screen looks like and how well it could take a picture of your ugly face I'm sorry we've reached a low point as far as mobile tech goes as far as I'm concerned now to counter you just a little bit on that one though I do primarily use or fights for taking pictures yeah no that's fine but it makes me feel like of all the texts that you actually are cramming into your phone if you're true if you are a true tech enthusiast you care about more than what your phone can do than just how well of a mobile camera is it that can make phone calls Oh fair enough in Android is always cornered the market by pushing their phone not as a not as a portable camera like iPhone ass but as a computer I mean and that's that's that's both its strength and its weakness the biggest weakness I would say of Android is that it is too configurable it does have too many options it does have too many settings and it gets to the point where certain applications of the marketplace because of the level of options that are available it's hard for them to rein in the quality on those apps in the end kind of the continuity across all the apps whereas with iPhone you have much more continuity between applications how you share photos how you ingest photos how you move them between applications you don't have the same breadth of options but our depth of options but you have the options that you need to get it done quickly that's why I've like the iPhone kind of cuz it's the Dumber phone it's that it was like well why would you want that when you're a software developer because you can use it when you're drunk right and my phone is not my computer I need my phone to be the thing that I can use when I'm incapable using the computer my phone is my communication device primarily either it's posting the social media stuff yesterday I had to switch my Google account on my axon phone my ZTE and it felt like the most painful thing in the world to try and do because the minute you leave it the Android menu system and here's the thing this is gonna trigger people because daily Android users because I don't use my Android as much so use my iPhone so to me it's asked backwards from what I'm used to it's just like jumping on Mac OS versus Windows so this is gonna trigger people who are like no I know how to use Android soup it easy to me I'm too I'm too damned simple-minded with my phones too it took me like 15 minutes and a lot of cussing and yelling and getting angry at the phone to figure out how to switch my Google account dude I've seen you how much he used like your iPhone like when I was with you you're literally your brain is like physically tethered to that thing and you have to do a thousand operations a second like if you had to do that on Android every murder yourself oh yeah I maybe want to just yesterday with what I was doing with it um okay so a good discussion has been taking place in chat that I think that's impossible on your channel well we're talking about phones right so this is probably the first Android has probably been the closest thing you have to being the computer geeks phone right absolutely but what about the razor phone I do feel it's a bit gimmicky but it's a bit but but allow me to devil's advocate here for a second my channel is about PC Tech and PCs and and all kinds of tech we're in car Tech lately and as much as the audience is pushing back I'm just gonna keep shoving my my anti crowd defense in their face so I'm gonna show you what I want to show you so deal with it or get out but that said I think I kind of want to buy a razor phone just to be like okay is is this is this a device actually made for computer folk from computer folk or is it a gimmick let me ask you that's not gonna working system is running I don't even know I've not looked into I've totally not cared Bryan Bryan is the one that came to me and was like hey we should do something with the razor phone I'm like why my audience would freaking chew out my spine and and and wave it above their heads if I did something about the razor phone is like it's got to be Android he's like if it sucks then say it sucks like of course I'm gonna say that but at just the fact that I'm even reviewing the razor phone's gonna trigger people he's like so let it be triggered so it got me it's it's Android so what is it just UI it's just yeah and that's what most phones are mostly that's another thing that I hate about Android you can have five different phones that look and act completely different that are all running on top of the Android kernel so what is the Android or is the rice raisin phone oh there was the next one the rise in phone right now so what is the razor phone actually giving you so the rate okay so the razor phone oh no I'm looking at it right now let me guess it's green accents yelled on here so that's okay it's it's pros are less he has an attractive slim lightweight design okay whatever it's water repellent and scratch resistant they say repellant so it's not waterproof yeah he's an ip67 repellent normally to say resistant yep as a fantastic 4.3 inch super AM L o le D screams what's an AMOLED okay okay which I believe is actually fairly old technology yeah a 1.2 gigahertz a dual-core processor that's that's pretty standard so nothing fancy yeah plenty of multimedia features corporate and government grade security whatever webtop functionality and decent battery life okay what's the bad the Motorola Droid a razor a large size might feel awkward and small hands we so it just say singe razor droid it's it's literally just ask Indian so it's motor oil it's a Motorola phone yes it is press one in chat if you think I should buy this phone just to shit on it hold on let me see here so razor no hold on let me make sure I was looking at the right thing because that I think that was called the Droid Razr yeah the motor does it have a little Razer logo and everything RAZR no no what's wrong wasn't the razor phone okay hold on bro hold on Holsey what happens when you have two phones from two different companies or ones don't hit one you our zer yeah this like the company razor it makes like the mice and the peripherals yeah all right I found it okay no no sorry I was looking at the wrong thing smartphone for gamers okay hold on hold on this we just triggered everybody in there goes all the ones guys hold your one is wait till we actually hold your one simmer down okay okay this looks radically different okay hold on a second oh my goodness okay so ultra motion technology delivers refresh rates up 120 Hertz okay that is thatis unique is shit okay so it's a hundred and twenty Hertz screen zero leg quad HD okay hold on here so I don't know why they can't just say 4k if I get true-to-life cinematic audio whatever it's got Dolby Atmos performance optimized wait whoa what how the hell is a phone had that mos dude dude this is such a fucking joke and you know this because you had like the single sound bar at most shit a house is just the seven but it can be simulated at most absolutely done from two speakers I have a video I have a video going out about Atmos but the at most thing isn't moving is this two speakers at the top of the phone firing over your head no no this thing literally looks like it just has the two speakers one on each side and they're using the Atmos codec to simulate the sound coming from different places well that's exactly how the sound bars work and I guess I have a video about that and and the sound bar works if you're in the right environment but I still don't understand how that how that's gonna work with a phone because all they're gonna do is just shift it they're gonna do that same thing that was at a razer what does it Razer synapse how does anybody use Razer synapse before I have it but I've never used it for headphones so if you use it on headphones you can actually distinctly tell the sound coming from in front of you or behind you with two speakers and it does it by like phase shifting the audio and I'd imagine the probably is doing something different this with that most codecs you can even do it in Windows now if you install the new fall creators update and go in and apply the at most codec for 14 bucks and all your windows have you ever actually sat and listened to like the the Atmos mbar not the ammo sambhar no but I've listened to a full Atmos system with like the the firings because because I know I know that Kevlar condom has that but look right the sound bar next time you're down here you have to experience this it's actually pretty damn convincing now that's not the one that's sitting on your desk upstairs at the studio right no no no this is a much bigger it's a much bigger LG bar and almost except the one that comes with the wallpaper TV okay yeah it's actually pretty damn convincing I've had it for a while now that videos going live pretty soon all right hold on looking at the specs okay they still haven't listed the operating system that's running on it but it looks like it has so yeah it's got that it's got the Atmos code at Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 at the 8 gig of ram so it's got a decent amount of ram 12 megapixel camera 4000 mAh battery that's all pretty standard they actually market the a gigabyte its dual channel lpddr4 1866 megahertz that's okay so the specs are pretty incredible but so it seems like it's we haven't pretty damn goods back we haven't kind of no s yet no that's the weird thing they don't they don't show that less on here at all which is very concerning see selfies cell processing in chat just says the audio has to bounce off space does it not that's exactly how Atmos works that's why I understand the gimmick of putting Atmos in a phone it's like it probably has a thing on it where it's like only an Atmos if you're sitting just perfect on the toilet and reflects off the ceiling behind you it's like Atmos enabled that was disabled that wasn't able that yeah seriously oh my the the Atmos down bar that I have is upstairs in my upstairs loft because remember up there I always had just the TV speakers if you sit on that couch and you just close your eyes and listen to it you would swear to god there was like a five points around going on in there yeah you know what it has to be Android because how in the house would they have how in the hell would they have a market place they're saying that runs all these little great shit there's no way their life everyone's saying it's nugget Android nugget alright that makes sense I mean there are only two OS is for a phone right yeah I mean well no three Windows Windows Phone ball did yeah so I go back to my original statement yeah exactly exactly I guess I guess yeah no you're right I shouldn't even mentioned it okay so we've been screaming for an hour now we are now moving out of tech this is this is the part of the show I think Jerry and I live for yeah we're talk about whatever whatever you want so I'm just gonna pull the chef interesting top all right talk about just to else you might get one of these I'm sorry but I did now you gotta be looking at this thing I'm like this is actually kind of cool yeah Bryan Bryan was gonna reach out to them to buy to get one for a review unit I think I'm just gonna buy it her industrial design is so good that's what I don't like is a lot of people complain about quality issues I guess their laptop had a lot of QC issues but God their shit just looks and feels so good it's 7.1.2 alright alright I'm closing the tabs Temptations getting me symbian for the Winkies version the Symbian phone Symbian phone yeah the Symbian recipient the Symbian phones so that you're so red right now oh my god I'm sorry I just had a visual of you talking on your Symbian phone it's like we could understand you what's that noise in the background uh I'm at a racetrack it's good Dolby Atmos as MOS as well you know what though I the best part would be the sibian phone has a ninety seven point or ninety two point seven percent female purchasing reading it's like well I want to know about the other like six and a half percent oh my goodness greetings from Poland what's up Adri Adri was a creep factor alright whatever happened to that phone os Samsung was working on I don't who knows oh my goodness Nissan 370z phones have come and gone like some sort of like like I mean Microsoft probably being like the best attempt at least but remember the was the other one that Microsoft bought they just completely flopped the Kin remember the Kin oh geez that ran like its own operating system that was completely proprietary as shit in that oh my god I only think I think was alive for two weeks on the market I think I think the Jitterbug had a better chance of being a better OS than the Windows Phone Jitterbug I've never even heard of that over the Jitterbug that was like the old Google's it was at the old people's phone the Jitterbug phone I gotta see this no look at the size of the buttons and they still have a flip phone - yes and the little ediload tune to read about god it was basically a foam marketed for old people with bad eyesight and couldn't touch the little buttons and like their little infomercial was like showing like an old person trying like an elderly woman trying to type them like the old razor flip phone and they were just like frustrated with it and then this phone makes them happy because now they can call their grandkids dude this is hilarious it's like rubberized they just see how I cut your face open accidents case it looks like it was made by fisher-price it does and there's like 20 of them to like they made a whole bunch of different ones yeah can you still buy it now does it still work yeah yeah they're still for sale I'm looking at him right now hundred and twelve dollars for like the one that's got the iPhone looking screen but giant buttons on it and then for the one that has the physical buttons it's like $25 at Walmart I think I want to buy one for Nick for Christmas you should get a get him a jitterbug and give it to him say you can't use any other phone this is your corporate phone it's your company phone that'd be fantastic oh my god yeah oh yeah the old bun to phone we've read about that one that never really wouldn't you wear though no and what ever happened to the phone that had the modules you guys remember the modular phone reflective snaps on the camera that was that like mod yeah that was like a pre Kickstarter thing I don't think it ever wouldn't you wear it never win anywhere but I thought it was a really good idea actually I mean from like an industrial design perspective I thought it was cool that you could just buy the modules if you wanted like five different cameras on your phone you could do it Jay the mighty karma guys are making over a 350z I've been tweeted that and messaged that and emailed that so much I mean that's cool but I really don't care I mean they could be doing a Mustang for all I care and out of the same level of interest in it I mean it's just I'm not like out there like yeah 370z fan 350z fan BQ fam it's like whatever I like my car and that's all there is to it I mean I like your car - how are you digging the wheels now I feel like I'm cheating on my te 37 s with these gram lights cuz I like them just as much Nick every time shit Nick gets an opportunity now he goes we're hork like he's called me a wheel whore now dude you you had a boner to get those like 12 year old wheels down there like II definitely that was that was your unicorn the the tes yeah but you didn't see them in person though now that they're done no no I didn't I didn't see him now that they're done how's that cubby yet working out for you either I'm glad you got your phone stuck in there oh so that was that's my excellent phone now you said is like a logger in my car right okay fits perfectly yeah no it's pretty neat like I was like worried that I was meant to glue it in there cuz it it fits in the little like the lip perfectly but then I'm like but it doesn't fit in there snug enough to not fall down but they printed it like they designed it perfectly to fit flush on the like the the hump underneath the deck underneath the center console perfectly so once you put it in and you snap it down in place it fits against both like top and so it doesn't move it's perfect you know what else we could do is a project if you want is if you tell me the the width of the phone like the actual width of the phone I could make like a Brockie you know those those little cup holder things that they have for your cell phone where you put it down the cup holder and it holds your cell phone yeah I could make one of those that's the exact dimensions of that pocket like 3d model into the pocket and print it and then on the top of that have a mass that comes up with the thing that holds the phone so that the phone would be like literally up out of the hole and you'd literally just drop it in there like a cup and it would snap into place yeah the problem is if I raise it high like that it's in the way of my shifter then oh that's true I forgot yeah your shifter your shifter is right in front of that as yeah as it is right now when it's sticking out it gets in the way of like six gear in Reverse big time got it and the wife just texted me and said it was the Moto phone has the projector attachment and the Hasselblad thing they still make it that do you remember that projector phone I do remember a phone that had a pico projector in it I thought that was actually kind of a pretty common thing I thought there was a couple Android phones either that or the wife is drunk she said hustle Florida's Hasselblad a real word or is she misspelled Hasselhoff I think I think Hasselblad is the guys that make the really high-end audio speakers right if he said if she knows that and I don't write no because I don't I'm so not an audiophile we've been so there's lots of Android pico projectors but I don't see one built into a phone let's hear phone is he your smartphone projector let's say we can find on the phone yeah these are all these are just projectors you connect them I don't see a phone with a projector in it yes maybe somebody in chat knows which one it is I see a lot of pico projectors that just plug into the bottom of the phone and they're roughly the same size as the phone but I don't know of a phone that actually has a pico projector built into it now I did now I have seen one before from North Korea it was one of the candy bar phones from North Korea that had a projector built in nope no no no I remember this is I mean this is Austin Evans had one he showed it to us we were at dinner with him when we're doing the day of refinement thing with yep earlier the year or last year whatever it was it's the Moto Z force because it has those attachments that go on the back of the phone also was an attachment the projector yeah basically it was like the whole back half of the phone like as magnetic and it pops off and you can switch them with like a full camera or a projector or whatever yeah it's got its got like an array of sixteen pogo pins down the bottom right put the attachment on there okay I see that was actually pretty damn cool and in my opinion that's the kind of stuff that would make me like consider going back to Android having a modular phone I think would be a really cool thing I mean they already kind of do it with the lenses on some of the phones like the cases and stuff but I think having a truly modular phone where it's like I want to just you know snap a thing on it get more storage drawing a snap a thing on it have like a fucking you know different modem or a different radio band or something like that yeah I think that I think would be pretty cool and that's why I like that modular design of the Kickstarter project but the problem of that one is you drop it and it like Legos I bet you drew cry bus and like 13 different pieces and you're like I've I feel I feel ashamed that my wife knew more about this than I did maybe that's because it just goes to show how much I've just not been into that into mobile tech all that much so I just didn't follow any of it all Hospital has a camera manufacturer okay yeah there was a fool there was a full screen camp or like a full-size camera he put on the back of it that was like like it was like beyond point-and-shoot level is like close to DSLR level got you who was so who's the company that made that weird camera that you could do the focus you could do the focus after taking the picture oh um Austin did a review of it I cameras come out like ray it was uh was it like change they were around for a very short period of time and then they went out of business Jay look at the red phone I don't know if I could afford a red phone no the red phone I looked at that too and it's like the red phones just like the red can everything's an attachment for it so that's cool that it's an attachment it's too expensive what like buying costs on that ah I think it was gonna be like $1,200 for the phone if remember is either 800 but with the with them camera module was way more than that and of course you have to have the camera module Apple makes $1000 phone tech heads lose their shit around the world red makes his $1200 phone photographers rejoice this year so they're in it honestly didn't look like it was that great it was just red red cashing in right red though this might probably everyone's saying a light row where that why this thing by true something you were looking for light room ly CRO oh I was he want to see if this is it yeah the light field cameras yeah uh this actually looks like a different company doing the same thing though the one the one that I was looking at was different than this but yeah it's the same thing it's like it's a it's a special type of camera where you take the picture and it saves all the data from the sensor to the camera but without focus taken into effect so you can actually you can move the focus right it's it's really really weird how it works but they're called light light field cameras and they work complete oh I found hold I found a picture one it's uh let's see what is this thing called it is no it is it's just you know there right it's the light row ileum and it's just a really weird ass looking camera but it focuses zero millimeters to infinity on every shot you take you can literally like set a penny on the lens and take a picture of it and it be in full focus or you can focus on something a mile away and then when you take the picture in the software you tell it what you want the focal let just take like a this just take like a such a high-speed burst of images at all these different focal links then you just kind of choose between them in the software or what that's kind of what I think it does because it doesn't use it but it does use up a lot of space the picture the picture size is very large and ef-2 used their proprietary software they're like redid it and process it created but it never it never really went anywhere like they had I remember they had a store and my mall in the Bellevue mall they had a store that was selling these but there's like never more than like one person in the store like they they definitely went under mm-hmm but uh but ya know it's interesting concept though and then there was another company that made a a portable phone that was about the size of a big cell phone that had like 12 lenses on it did you ever see that one hmm no in basically you take a picture and it uses all of the lenses to gather a bunch of data and then you again you make the photo and post like you just point and click and then you got like massive amounts of zoom that you can do and everything like that it's really crazy like gold on your multi land smartphone camera where is its oh here I think I found it it's uh oh here I found that modular phone well Abe Lincoln and Chet glad to see that Abraham Lincoln is still around and kickin he said to studying done by software and it takes like 20 images that's the only way I could see it does it yeah oh here I found it it's called the light it's it's the light camera and it's got one two three four five six seven eight in 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 lenses and when you take a picture it uses all of them Jay can't the note 8 do that I don't know I tend to stay away from incendiary devices it's really good yeah if you look go look up a light camera just like you probably find a million things they should have called us on another to light camera but it basically looks like a cell phone with 16 cameras on the back of the house odd I thought it's not light just Li gh T oh geez just do a surgeon to search for light camera put 16 on man because it's got 16 lenses it's comical when you look at first thing you think of yeah you look at it you think it's like a or something it looks like it got wet yeah but it's like they apparently you just take a picture with this they said it rivals uh rivals like even the best DSLR camera I'm so sick of that I'm so sick of every time someone comes up with some gimmick like this it's always like better than G SLR it's like if ever you know what as a consumer this is why I've always looked at it everybody compares blah blah blah to DSLR this is berrin DSLR that's really DSLR this is it makes me want to buy a DSLR if that's the thing everyone's benchmarking against yep a night and I came from DSLR I should move away from it because there's more to shooting video than just image quality yeah well you know that you shoot you shoot on Sony actually wish I had know what's what's kind of funny is until it until I got into dedicated video I never even considered Sony I never considered it I never considered the a7 I never considered certainly not FS 5 + FS 7 but I just never thought about it until I really started doing research on Sony's video products and and moving to a dedicated video camera and getting off DSLR where I really got excited about video oh and other than the build quality I'm so glad that I moved like that Sony FD R X 53 cuz it's really small it's lighter weight and smaller than the DSLR was with the lens it gives me more focal length right out of the box than the lenses that I had granted you have more options of DSLR that's money right that's a lot of money uh it gives me that ability very simple to use records in definitely a record like six hours on one battery where's the DSLR was much more heavy on the processing at least on my 5 5d Mark 3 right um there was just so many pluses to just using a video camera over the photography DSLR but granted if you had the right lens at the right focal length on the right lighting situation the DSLR did look moderately better but across the entire range and the freedom that it gives me these little cameras they're way better overall that's why I don't think people that just about image quality in specs that's that's part of it but that's not all of it you know what's frustrating is people like lethal lightning in chat they'll make a they'll make a statement like Sony is garbage but then they give no argument or they they have no information or any argument to support their claim so yeah when that's the problem with the Internet today bla bla bla is garbage because they're a fanboy of something else admittedly they're probably they're probably a Canon fanboy they're a Nikon fanboy or something I mean I've done to myself right I was always a Canon so when I had my Canon 5d Mark to mark three I was a Canon snob and fuck Nikon and know I've been there i I can I can say that I've the frustrating part though is they they they took the time to type it because they want someone to see it and consider their thought that Sony is garbage but they couldn't take the time to actually explain why they say it's garbage and more than likely they don't have any experience with anything other than some low-end point-and-shoots or maybe some mid-range point-and-shoots with video capability and they're speaking to it in terms of what Sony does in the high-end space which is where I reside so yeah their comment has no weight no validity and really just makes it seem like they should probably be playing with a Speak and Spell because that's probably more their speed because if you can't tell guys if you're gonna make a statement like something's garbage support it if you want any sort of respects towards your comment no that that I agree with you get a lot of people they're like no that's stupid and there's like nothing to back at Apple back adapt doesn't any of the reasons as to why you said you liked the product right you know it's like when you're like man I really love the video quality on this and it's like oh but it's got the you know our b TQ pixel window and the other cameras got the better pixel window and more higher bit rates and everything I'm like but but I'm not talking about that I'm not talking about the physical specs on paper I'm talking about the end process result what it looks like with my capability net man says Jay please stick foot-and-mouth about your no date comment no you stick your Wang in your mouth I don't care if the no date has the same problem as the note 7 because the notes that you wouldn't reach but because of the note 7 I don't want to even consider a note 8 the no date is pretty tits though I'd like to have a no date but to be fair an iPhone eight had swelling battery issues too so I don't want a cell phone at all so is the iPhone fucking what are they saying the iPhone it's either the X or they what I just said he had a couple yea the eight was swelling and it was a catch not catching fire but it was actually the battery was swelling so much it was splitting the case apart yeah you know when I did that that little unboxing and like kind of like quasi review of the read the read Raven right Ram guy everybody's like you should get a read you should get a read they're so amazing and I bought I drink the kool-aid right I was like I want to read because under the right situation with the right skills and the right lens and lighting and everything you can do an amazing shot like he did some shots of the Viper during the Viper shoot that I didn't think we're possible like in the lighting everything they looked amazing but the second that I held that camera and I fucked with the menu system and I saw how slow the menu system was how slow it was to react how long it took to boot it up that camera would not work practically for anything that I do right like for my workflow that camera would be absolutely worthless commit like like the Sony I flipped the thing open it's ready to go I shoot the video and imports right into premiere without any massaging I don't have to do any of the log on off to do any of the application of color filters and shit like that it's very straightforward and for my workflow and what I do that works really really great and even though the red overall has the the more top-end capability you you have to deal with a lot of shit to get that right and it's the same thing with your Sony's and everything like that the certain extent it's like once you get used to them but it's like a lot more manual stuff you you're definitely more involved in the process which you like to be but without the knowledge if you were just in a quick situation you were like running down the street and something was happening would you reach for your your Sony fs5 that yeah like boot up and fuck with all the settings are you gonna grab the thing you just flip open hit record and it's going into second I'm gonna go for my Sony FS 5 ok well that's you my Soniya FS 5 boots up in about five seconds and it's ready to record ok that's impressive the red takes like a minute yeah they say in the main you system like you push down and it's like down down down it's like I don't know why their menu system is so slow yes but but the problem is you just you just took a problem with one brand and applied it to another as a blanket statement and that's what the internet does as a whole and it really irks me because though five seconds is still a lot if I need to shoot something that's only three seconds long five seconds is a long time it's just it's not as much but I think my argument still stands as far as if something can immediately be ready to go like your cell phone for instance if you can push one button on your cell phone it's instantly recording video and something Crazy's going on you want to capture that moment versus having to boot up for five seconds on something and presumably because it's big you have to pick it up or possibly change the lens and stuff like that it's like I would still go maybe you wouldn't but I would go for the option that allowed me to capture the moment versus how how often have you found yourself in that situation one you're not a field reporter or freelance PhD that's like every ten minutes for me okay like Xander is a squirrel man you don't want to even know how I've almost missed the Xander's done in you having kids will you pray at all you don't you don't record a lot of stuff I don't think your kids do like for like the internet or whatever but I recorded some I said does I just don't put it on the internet you don't put on the internet but I'm just saying like for me like the stuff I do was the and Ernie's telling jokes and stuff I have to move really quick because he loses interest like that like I would never have a hope of trying to record him with like my DSLR I don't use my DSLR for family photos anyway like for family for failure I'm sorry my-my fs5 and stuff yeah I never use that for family stuff we I have a well just sighs first of all I'm not gonna carry with me on the mall and stuff no fair enough but that's but that's my point is I'm just saying it's the camera that you have right it's the camera that's gonna do whatever you need to do at that moment in time right I'm never I'm not gonna build my business off of a point-and-shoot or a an iPhone or a samsung camera or anything like that but I mean I saw a comment float by a while ago that was like but Sony has memory problems like I have no idea what the hell they're talking about yes I know this is different kind of memory first of all first of all like the fo7 uses XD cards which is this guy right here which looks like let's women playing with this whole EP it looks like an overgrown super-fat SD card but it's not it's XD card it's got a read write of like 300 megabytes a second that's the one that's got the 8 pins on instead of the 4 right I don't like the little contact points I don't when you put it in the reader there's a lot of them yeah there's a ton of them there's a whole bunch of contact points in there but anyway I guess I haven't used those um and they I've been shooting with fs5 now for over a year and I machine with fs7 for about three months now and not one time we ever experienced some so-called memory issue or menu issue or anything it's always been turning on it's ready to go it's never failed us is that a Sony memory card or key by third-party memory cards this one's uh Lexar yes that's my point is if you're saying tony has terrible memory you're talking about Sony's memory card you're not talking about the hole all the other memory cards they can use I have no idea I mean I I like Lexar and Samsung all those memory cards are like really really good they would work equally well on your camera right this is not compact flash my god it's executed like nothing bigs compact flash anymore some do something I can still do like the new ones I don't know if they're new but I know that there's newer cameras that still use compact flash nickels little really clean of this anyway so I just I guess I hate fanboy ISM I hate family ism and all sorts of fanboys we we they exist they're everywhere they're always gonna be there but God did they Eric me I like I'm an Nvidia fanboy though an Intel fanboy exciting I don't I don't want to rise in system one intel says them 99 how much Titans I don't want radians I think you're a fan for whatever you can get for free that's true that's fair enough and you know what for anyone in this chat that bitches are wines that Jerry gets sponsored or I get sponsored there's not a single person in this chat that self-righteous enough to turn down a sponsorship if one came your way you know you take it like that so she's are the only people that bitch about that shit are the people they can't get it not as single Nick just said compact flash is still a thing for high-end icons wow I wonder I wonder if it's they they have some feature or something that the newer memory cards don't hella faster than SD yeah like I said this XD card when I it's four hundred and forty megabytes per second on this XD card yeah I was gonna say there's no way I've never had a Compaq flat card that was anything over like one night yeah I mean x DS that is a new thing for f of 7 and then the SD cards that go into the FS 5 of them going to restore it internally I mean they're a max of what ATS 80 mega biomega bytes per second right and then I can read them at about 80 megabytes per second when I'm transferring but of course if we really want to take it to the next level then we just use our SD SSDs and our animos field recorder interesting I think it might just be stored just straight-up storage because the the read/write speed looks like it's only 90 mega second which is like really slow compared to even some of the Asti cards yeah well I think s DS I think SD is is never gonna go anywhere because of the point-and-shoot craze and and they might have a met have little cameras and stuff that use them but in the professional space man is it expensive for storage like this 128 gigabyte execute or XQD card yeah is like 120 150 dollars but yet the equivalent for red is like 900 300 I know you're top of the minimax and that's yeah that's different entirely I mean the cool thing about our Atmos is our so I've added to a demos ninja infernos and the inferno is pretty neat because it just uses caddies that you screw standard SSDs into and you've got a list of compatibility so we're running 850 Evo's and I can go out by 500 while used to be able buy a 500 gigabyte SSD for like two hundred and seven dollars but everything's gone up lately but I went out and bought two 500 gigabyte SSDs at the time for like a hundred and fifty dollars each so for 300 bucks I had a terabyte of SSD storage for at most for a demo i actually yeah and I like the idea of using the SSD too because they're still relatively small but they got a shitload of storage really high read/write speed even if you connect them through like USB 3 or or if you and if you haven't I can eat SATA connector on your computer you can just connect it right up to eSATA connector you get full speed what I love about the Atomos though is the fact that it's big and heavy you saw it right yeah they're awesome I love but they're heavy and they're large and you put the batteries on there that we have it takes dual batteries and you put the SSD on there it's weighty but what I like about it is the fact that uses Sdn or SDI input so we can actually mount like Nick could wear it on his waist if he wanted if he liked it like I in a pouch or whatever and if he didn't want to I'd say huh hook that way doesn't overheat but if then we could run video output from that into a field monitor still on the FS 5 keep the weight on his hook on his waist and then when he hits record because it has a communication between the camera over HDMI or even SDI yeah we hit record on the camera it also hits record in the Atmos so oh it did like sends the command over the SDI cable it's the control over the SDI cable that's really cool so yeah it's pretty neat we've been playing around stuff like that but we also have this guy right here this is actually one of our favorite rigs this is our sony a7s - don't ask me why i what with the seven over the r there's a great articles out there about which is what and why you would like it better this mike is kind of silly up here we've been using this foot this is our this is our field rig this also has an eighteen to thirty-five sigma lens on their buttons of lenses it's got this handle on here this is the tilt a cage Nick or Jarius Cena's use this we absolutely love this camera of the that's literally the only DSLR that I would even be remotely interested in going back to as far as my primary camera and the 3 and the 3 mark 3 is out now - what does that give you no idea ok I haven't been looking because I don't feel like buying something I just like how small the body is on it like that's actually a small package like anybody's learned a 5d Mark 3 was insane and that can all be powered off like USB power break and everything - right so what you have right here is this is one of those like like Amazon battery pack seller blah blah blahs we could warm with the lipstick one because it's a it's a cylinder like this yep so we just got we just Jimmy jerry-rigged our own little mount fort right here onto our cage and then we actually just run this cable right here from the battery pack to the cameras micro SD input' and then this will actually power our camera for like more than an entire day as long as there's a battery inside the camera it will take the power from the external battery so if you want to take like your 20 thousand milliamp you know external battery and yep and put it on this cage you got a bunch of weight but you'd probably power the thing for like a week see that's awesome does it uh does it use the autofocus of the lenses and everything to it can if you have a lens on there that communicates autofocus oh yeah we use a meta bones adapter for our canon glass cuz I can there's still way more Canon lenses than any other brand and it can communicate with the latest software update but it's slow and it hurts a lot it's always hunting so we just use manual focus for everything got it because that's one of the things that I rely on a lot in my operation is the autofocus which I know you don't and well yeah and Nick is starting to get a lot better at it in the beginning we had a lot of complaints about oh my god the whoever's like autofocus sucks autofocus sucks and it's like little dude no there wasn't autofocus it was Nick trying to find focus but he's getting a lot better at it now so I was just it's a it's an art all right yeah it's only you give a guy a new piece of equipment and he's got to learn it like anything else growing pains anyway I agree so we've got five minutes left here what do you wanna talk about I want to talk about my new computer is getting built tomorrow what do you think about it and how part be able to your audio is cutting out you say game new computer tomorrow you I talked about how far you can overclock it yeah yeah I want to tell you what the specs are on it and get your thoughts on like what you think I could potentially overclock it to on air okay so so let's go through it so the specs on tomorrow's bill that I'm doing over at Puget we're gonna be live-streaming that to by the way you're getting a size 40 X and of that so it's got yeah it's got that it's got the gigabyte yeah the 79 40 X it's gonna be on the gigabyte X 299 was it rs7 okay the r7 so it's gonna have 128 gigs of 2666 ddr4 so you're gonna be populating all eight dims yes okay that's gonna lower your clocks there oh well okay well I'd rather have more memory than though it puts more it puts more stress than I am see Oh does it really I didn't know that is that just a whole quad channel thing or is even more than that now it just has to do with the the memory controller I was actually having a good conversation with kingpin about this because it's something I've known about for a long time um it probably won't limit how far you can go on air though Oh gotcha it starts just getting down to the little nitty gritty when you're right when you're taking it to the edge the system is gonna have for Samsung 962 terabyte m2 drives in it Dan that's expensive yeah that's that's where most most of the build cost was the memory in the heart and the storage yeah and then it's got a regularly cooling those in some way oh I'm sure I'm sure they will that on my old system they put heat sinks on all of them okay uh but I was running I don't think I didn't I wasn't 960 am i holding so is your only heat your only cooling one side of it and it's double sided true true so yeah uh so and then hold on here we're gonna build it out in the fractal design r5 titanium so delayed it's gonna be a little bit smaller than my current one so my current case is massive was it our two XL - too damn big so so just just out of curiosity on that foot so the 7940 runs of the stock clock speed of 3.1 yards how much Headroom do you think you could get on that like safely on air not very far not very far you think that that's probably running pretty close to it you've got a lot of course in that 14 of them I know why are you I've got I've got the 16 in the 18 core I've got the 18 core running 4.9 on water but I couldn't I would be able to run 4.9 under like something like prime95 but in my day-to-day dad tasks it'll work fine I am running my 79 60 X which is the 16 core on my rendering slash daily machine at the studio it's water-cooled at 4.5 and what was the stock clock on it oh I don't know I was like 3 some of that's that's pretty impressive so on air I'd imagine I could probably get to about 65 or 70 percent you could probably get a solid like 3.8 3.8 would be sweet like if I could if I could even get close well especially the bowl premiere because premiere really wants to see course be core clock yeah yeah and that was the thing that was the reason while Bach but but you actually did raise an interesting point about the more memory putting strain on the control I just gotta watch the temperatures primarily right would you would you be willing to give me some tips and tricks on that when I'm ready - I'm not gonna overclock it right of the box I'm gonna use it for a week or so but when I start doing the overclocking could you give me some tips and tricks on how to how to walk that thing up nice and slowly you haven't done overclocking and forever no easy enough but I have to assume they're gonna be going with a cuppa gas not to a cooler or something oh yeah they already they always put naktu or coolers on these things like at ndnd 14 or something like that let me see I don't remember what the name is of the one that h14 come for the Zeon's but it was massive I mean it goes all the way out to the door of the case okay yeah I mean you can it's not like 120 millimeter fan on it you could probably easily hit 3.5 23.8 on all course but you can understand that the heat like exponentially goes up with voltage on these chips yeah I figured as much and this is 165 watch ship so Gareth Tucker says why not water at X 299 Jerry's system is all about reliable reliability and ease of maintaining and there is nothing simpler than air for maintenance yeah and the thing is these systems - I mean unless you run them under full GPU load they're actually like really quiet they put the noise dampening stuff on the inside of the case doors and everything the the dynamap look ins yeah so these things like my main system unless you run the GPUs that over 80% you don't hear anything it's a dead silent computer I see so I see Nick isn't chat and he responded to someone saying the one you can afford don't hurt yourself with gear acquiring syndrome you got I assume he's responding to somebody asking about what hardware they should get it's important to note that Nick Nick came on board and got way in over his head with the gear that I was acquiring because I'm a gearhead I love the gear and I had a lot of time learning how to use the gear this has been a long journey of growing pains for Nick to start getting comfortable with using our gear but this say this a7s2 right here this is Nick's favorite piece of equipment that we own really yeah he's he's the a7 he would reach for that before any other camera any day it just has its limitations still being DSLR with regards to multiple inputs and all that junk in fact there's something I still have to buy for this before CES otherwise we're kind of screwed oh my god see that's the thing is I'm the next camera that I'm looking at for me just to stay within my genre of handycam cuz I've just done so well with these things is the new ax 700 which is the one that has it does HDR it does 120 at 1080p it does limited log it's not full log like yours but it does something else like log S or something like that well they're all that's log but there's essence okay well as whatever the minute it wasn't like the c1 but it gave you more it said that it gave you more control over editing that log it had the dual SD cards so that you could do them either in tandem so it writes to one the right side when were rights to both room simultaneously so you have a backup but it was all in the form factor of the ax 53 just a little bit bigger cuz it's got like a grip that pops up the side right but otherwise it's it's literally like the same camera I had a little bit more of a focal length to it and I just looked at and I was like it's about 1,800 bucks but I'll so Jerry froze that oh are you back yeah okay Gavin you froze for a second there in a really derpy face if you look at chat you'll see it it was like stupider anyways I'm trying to figure out if on my primary camera I want to go like a DSLR like the a7 a7r or if I want to go with the ax 1 or the ax 700 which is the new the new handicap mm-hmm and it's a tough decision for me to make because if I go back to the DSLR route then of course there is a little bit of a learning curve there however other route it's not going to be as good it's not going to be as bigger of a sensor but it's gonna be way easier for me to use overall yeah we just hit 631 and I think that the Internet is telling us it's time to go because the call quality between us is T rating quickly yeah I can see this time to say bye-bye and prepare next week yeah all right guys we got some content coming up Jerry has got a new computer being built tomorrow obviously and I've got I don't know whatever wrote the random crap and decide to do between now and then of the week so with that said I'm gonna go guys if you follow Jerry over chicken man over on Barnard comm if you've never heard of him before and if you guys are here you then you already know who I am so with that said I'm gonna go thanks for watching when I roll the outro Jerry take it away all right thank you for watching Tech Talk come and tackle Houston who's building my computer if you just a rough with TV for Sparky if you love tech talks like lighting on there's only 564 likes and there's like 2948 of you you know what to do push the button before you leave push like if you think Jerry forgot to build a computer ok
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