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Tech Talk #161 - Google Duplex Mimics Human Behavior

2018-05-10
remaining and we're live as always YouTube says have bad quality I say you have quality YouTube what is YouTube no man seriously oh man we got a lot to talk about follow up based on the video processing test we ran last week got an update on that we're going to talk about Google i/o and Google duplex we're gonna talk about Nvidia GP and you had another thing Oh recent bug like latest bugs known with the latest Windows build yes with the with the April update a Windows Update and the cocaine breathalyzer is a thing that we're gonna really enjoy finally welcome to check chock number 161 who actually all right and then probably trained a lot in two completely nonsensical because that's that's what we do enjoy the show wait why is the intro looping all the times I've done this I've never had the intro okay it looked like it looped on my end but it oh oh oh no I didn't actually loop I'm stupid I was looking at the actual live stream hey could somebody cut that sound bite out where he said I'm stupid and send it to me thank you weary tone my ringtone not gonna put it on my stream deck like the stream is not that far delayed so by the time the the intro ended on OBS it started on the stream that's how it's only like 12 seconds behind and so I literally looked at one window and then the other and I thought it looped but it didn't so you guys got an extra black screen there for like 12 seconds it's okay if you like to keep them on their toes man keep them on their toes yeah I knew that was coming I totally knew that was coming dumontet D Mon monetized it words words day it's not like I've been drinking I haven't been I'm a little bit delirious because if you guys aren't aware we're filming season 3 of man vs. build in Vegas next week which means I'm gonna be out of the office the entire week which means I needed a week worth of videos to have ready to go live so this we alone we shot two weeks worth of videos and they're edited in the hopper scheduled and ready to go live starting tomorrow so yeah laughs I worked myself really silly here my camera froze again actually did the same thing J I shot about 12 or 15 videos and edited them and they're all in the can I just I just haven't uploaded them yet yeah they're still in this can well I mean they're here yeah look I'm out eventually it'll be fine guys my camera's gonna probably freeze a bunch throughout this I don't know why it does that it does wait wait what's that what's what's the make and model on it could it could you could you tell us who made that camera um Microsoft okay okay I was just wondering to be fair to be fair I took the other webcam home the better webcam because I started my vlog series on the second channel again and so I wanted to I needed that there so you know where could somebody find the second channel if they didn't know about a Jay the main header of my channel it's been there since day one you know you know the top like of your main channel where it shows like your social media like the Twitter button and all that stuff yeah but does anybody actually even go to that like pain really nobody even reads the description wide which is why at the bottom of this stream all the information you need to know about this dream and how we rarely talk about tech but people are still gonna ask where's the tech so oh my god Jay's vlogs Wow so glad I discovered this channel finally oh my god 48,000 people got lost somewhere better and stumbled across that channel and hit subscribe wow it's got it's got almost as many subscribers as I do you mean active viewers now I'm just getting it on 45,000 active yours I wish so I just saw this down because I'm on this quest of and this is before we go serve with our tech topic so I'm on this quest of trying to curb hunger if you guys have watched the vlog from last night I'm trying to curb hunger with a little bit more healthy snacks this is beef jerky from carnivore candy my wife actually got me this like supply crate thing of like men's snaps but they're healthy right and so this was the it's a beef jerky it's a sweet picante from carnivore Canyon like the whole bag was like 100 what is they 115 calories 135 calories that's not bad I say I think it 130 something yeah well it's 45 calories per serving those three servings so yeah I'm way under my under caloric intake today those specials riding the bikes it's 25 miles roundtrip riding into work so that's okay now to the tech topics topics we're not gonna get started with the hook the one that's obviously in the title and real quick we're going backwards for a second here the way we kind of let off with all of our topics didn't it feel very top Girish today drinks coffee J flexes his man flab and Nick is nowhere to be seen oh poor Nick actually next we doing working here all next week as contractor like doing stuff while I'm out of the out for the week so a lot of people are just like where the hills Nick Nick is actually gonna be taking a position with a worldwide logistics company but he's in an interim period right now or it hasn't started yet so he's gonna be doing some contract stuff for me in the meantime a lot of people think Nick and I had this like big falling-out no I can't fall out with Nick it's a hate crime if I do so that's true it actually is on on two levels actually yes double hate crime although I hear he has quite the career ready for customer service yeah he's got a lot and if that fails he can be scammer calls - so he's got it how he said it you know it's funny isn't it we're gonna talk about Nick were second here we're gonna embarrass him he's not here to defendants do it a lot of people think he's black you know he's not white she's half Indian and half his dad from Panama so yeah it's like it's just dark too dark skinned cultures and him now I feel really really racist all the sudden that's why everyone's always like who's the black guy what black guys in the black guy here actually no no basically oh that means that nothing we've ever said his races cuz he's not really black there we go saved wait a minute is the only count if the person you're directing it to fits said criteria yes yes like I think that's I don't know answer I know I know I got a I got a scam and a meet no mmm see that's behavioral versus genetics different I'm so ignant oh my god so a gay yeah guys I'm gonna trust me I know it's freezing I'll fix it as we go along so all right first topic up um Nvidia squashes the entire GPP or the g-force Partnership Program yeah I heard about that that was uh but they were catching like loads of right yeah and everything I saw on social media was against that nobody was for and what's funny is their blog like they put the they put their own little blog up kind of addressing it and they were basically like due to massive missing miss or inaccuracies and misinformation they decided to squash the program because negative publicity for them right and it's kind of funny that they were just basically like well we're gonna go ahead and end this because everyone's just sort of lying and you know but you know what the writing was on the wall and they'd already happened with MSI and Asus like literally within a week of the news breaking about GPP Nvidia stopped our website MSI stopped showing the gaming xyn of Nvidia or AMD cards and there was always a gaming X Nvidia card and gaming X AMD card and if you guys aren't aware of what the GPP allegedly was it was basically we're in video was trying to stop brands from aligning their top tier gaming line like the ROG or Republic of gamers metrics right the MSI gaming X and stop cross branding them between AMD and NVIDIA products basically they were gonna be like if you are gonna be putting your top two your gaming line with an Nvidia card then it can only be on an nvidia card you can't put that same like strict series on an AMD card so and they were off for preferential treatment for they were offering preferential treatment front line access in terms of GPU allocation and even advertising money on launch day for new GPUs typically yeah when Nvidia launches a new family of graphics card right we're all waiting for the 2080 or 1180 whatever they're gonna call it next next family of graphics cards what's being shield today another crappy Audi hey that Audi was pretty awesome that was pretty awesome Audi I liked it out he's pretty awesome we're gonna go ahead and ban that guy just because he opened his mouth and he's being a little so we'll go ahead later bro peace anyway so moving forward that basically Nvidia was trying to control what the parties could call their card the third party's AI bees but but they were giving preferential treatment to GPU allocation when they were available but when Nvidia launched a new family of graphics card what would ended up what end up happening was you would only see the Nvidia founders card because new families Nvidia kept close to the chest they didn't want you know they wanted all of the the fanfare and the in the the spotlight and then about a month or two after you'd start to see the custom cards trickle out and then as the family progressed then you'd see the the custom cards launched alongside you know the the main and video card yeah well what the GP was supposed to do was get you early access to the development of the new family of cards and then remember this is allegedly and then gets you day one exposure so Nvidia would not only launch their new family of card but then he'd be like and it's available with the MSI gaming X and da2 Strix right so you would get that day one kind of you know exposure with your new card so interesting a lot of the information that came out came directly from behind the scenes people with a IBS that were in the circle of no but there was an awful lot of hearsay because Kyle Bennett over at Hard OCP was the one that broke the story with a lot of anonymous emails and a lot of anonymous memos and stuff that were not traceable in that it's not like you could trace it back to Nvidia or even these people in AI bees that were willing to talk about it because of course if this was like you know Nvidia is holding your family hostage and if you talk about this you know they're gonna they're gonna sleep with the fishes kind of a thing like right that's how that's how scared the AI bees word even didn't acknowledge that such GPP program even existed so that being squashed now means that the amount of backlash that the public gave regarding this was enough to make a company like Nvidia cave and here's the question were they not suspecting or expecting the truth to get out or do you think it's literally been blown out of proportion no I think I think that they did not want the truth to get out because think about it if it was nothing like the information that was being leaked they would have just publicly stated the oh no no no this is they would have thrown it all out for everybody to see and just completely Declassified it and said this is what people get for being a part of the partner program more nothing less instead they're just like all people aren't understanding this word is gonna pull it all right like that tells me that they probably hit the mark and they were like oh this is not being received well right so if you put together this program that you're proud of and you're and you're willing to obviously roll it out and people started giving you wrong information about it wouldn't you be like I'm day one like whoa whoa no no no you guys have got this wrong right and Vidia sat in silence the entire time until they decided to say we're stopping the program yeah and I still didn't see them even try to justify it they did the opposite in there like oh yeah people just are misunderstanding everything so we're just gonna make this thing go away that we're not even confirming or denying pretty much but you know what's funny is like so asus had already rolled out I believe they called it Ares like they had Ares cards in the past which were custom cards and they stopped making Ares cards like remember the Mars card it was like a double it was like two sevens 60s on the same card or whatever it was Nvidia won't allow companies to get creative like that they won't allow companies to create these monster you know these Frankenstein cards anymore Nvidia is very closed now in what they will allow the partners to do so the Ares and all that stuff was like one of those lines that was kind of killed off but they brought the name back and basically it was like ROG Strix was like the nvidia cards I think it was ROG Ares yeah something similar to that for the AMD card like that had been made public so that's why people were confirming like oh yeah the the GP P obviously was what we expected you you can't have the same name on an AMD card in a video card what's funny is the moment Nvidia like announced they're killing the program those custom lines dead now they're back to Strix and back to gaming apps like they fit right back to well because how much was additional was it gonna cost them to have to like make all this extra packaging and extra names and stuff what about the stuff that was already sitting on shelves you know I mean right right I mean even if they didn't want to move it and rebrand it I mean to rebrand an existing product would be nightmarishly I guarantee you I know what they would do the same thing they've done before is they'll literally just print a sticker and send it to the retailers and be like go slap this label on this box and like cover up the other part like I hadn't I'm not even kidding they do that so you like steamin pull the sticker off and it's still such tricks behind it pretty much yeah I think I think they just got caught they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and they just decided to try to play play it off like it was no big deal like if you're in vidya you can't possibly be ignorant enough to think that the truth would not have outed you know yeah you know you know what kind of as interesting goes if you think about it the only reason to create a program like that where you're trying to get people to basically snub your competitor like theoretically right snub your competitor would be if you were worried about your competition and that's the interesting thing here is NVIDIA has always been like really dominating everything but now you got kind of like rise in the AMD graphics cards though some people would argue that you know Tier four tier they're not quite the same performance and cost versus performance you know there's some there's some information there but but even so they must feel threatened by AMD because there's nobody else currently that's really competing on that level I mean even with Intel and I'm trying to do their own GPU initiative and everything like that that's way off in the future yeah so it's like they must legitimately think that AMD is gaining some ground on them no I don't just I just agree with that I mean really let me tell you why okay AMD's last mainstream launch and I'm not counting Vegas 56 and 64 because that was not a mainstream card that was that was them I don't know what they were doing to be alive to be honest but there's nothing new really well it was their HBM - so it was like the the successor to the fury X which came out back in like 2015 okay 2016 June of 2016 was when I had a meeting with AMD here in the studio about the new card we all thought it was gonna be Vega they basically started the meeting with like guys this is in beta this is in Vega it was a 570 and 580 and then of course the 560 and we were kind of like interesting because we weren't expecting to see another like higher tier card I guess in the 480 because that the 480 was when it AMD was like we're not interested in trying to compete in the high end GPU market which obviously Vega attempted but they have not launched another card in the last year they have not they have not done anything above the 580 and the 580 is is right around the GTX 980 in terms of speed which is now two generations old when it comes to Nvidia so if you if you go card for card and go ok a 580 is about the same speed as a 980 and if you look at where the 980 came out and like what 2015 a long time ago that's like okay so what are they trying to compete with here so I think if you're Nvidia the point I'm trying to get to here and a very long run about weight I think if you're in video you're looking at this going they've just lost momentum right Vega was a flop Raja is out like that just did not go well Nvidia did exactly what I thought they would they dropped the set they dropped prices 1070 they inserted a 1070 TI in terms of just raw performance and power consumption there was no compelling reason to get a Vega or Vegas Vega card at all unless the compute power that Vega offered was the one thing you needed because it did beat Nvidia in that market they just they closed the gap in the Nvidia side of things and Vega Vega was too expensive at launch because it couldn't compete at the price point so they reduced the price of Vega with that stupid hunter dollar back in rebate thing which meant there was no profit in Vega at all so now you've got a company that's hemorrhaging money in terms of no profits with AI cards I think in videos looking at this is a DoubleTap I think they're looking at this as they were trying to just sort of double tap out the competition entirely like they were already on their way out so they figured this would be a really easy way for them to just speed it up and snuff them okay that's what I Academy that's what I that's what I feel like in video was trying to do that's probably more than likely true like after you mention it that does seem like like that would be more likely what they're trying to do because they know they're down kind of thing they had already won the hardware hardware race hard work hardware race and I think they were trying to finish it off with the marketing battle the marketing work I wonder if there's anything else that they were getting out of this too I wonder did you hear anything about like how bi-directional the partnership was what were they getting in return from the people that were signing up for the partnership was it all one way and giving to them or did they require certain things to be met as far as like gaining information or statistics or anything on the sales of those cards from those companies I'm trying to think if there's any kind of analytical data that they were seeking out here by locking these people into this partnership it really sounded like the benefits were they were gonna get additional marketing money directly from Nvidia okay I think that's it the moment you mentioned getting money I think was like I mean but the thing was I think that the companies that were willing to participate in the NPP were a little bit less concerned with getting the money versus being concerned with being shunned by the Nvidia video Corp in terms of their allocation and the availability of parts that they need to build their cards because the allocation I should have priority they knew was gonna go to the DPP well they got to be careful because if I mean AMD being alive is actually a good thing for NVIDIA from just the sheer point of not being a monopoly think about what would happen if AMD just folded tomorrow yeah Nvidia would literally be standing alone in a massive industry and that would that would instantly label them as a monopoly meaning any company that came online to try to compete with them would get all kinds of special disc and disc compensation from the government and everything like that to basically bring them up to speed well putting huge restrictions on NVIDIA so that they can catch up same happened to micros I talk about a lot of this in next Wednesday's video okay and that's scheduled to go live next Wednesday I talked directly about this topic some-some rumor / what's weird what did I call it earlier speculate it's a speculative piece what I think is gonna happen and I rarely do these but I feel like there's enough information in the past to determine what's gonna happen in the future you guys are curious about my thoughts on the future of graphics cards and the industry then I talked about that on Wednesday so don't miss that video and just so you guys know my video will be out on Tuesday same topic Who am I kidding I'm like oh you're such a dick how can a guy was such a small one be such a big dick I don't get it it's like it just doesn't even add up I went up there I went there it was a tiny dick joke Jay I'll say that you're that you're like aww memories ladies all right so Nvidia really up but do you think the PR backlash from this is gonna hurt them long-term at all or do you think it's just everybody's gonna forgive him and move on you know what here's a here's here's here's my take on the PCM our pitchforks and torches and all that but then behind closed doors they're still buying all the same they protest against very trim plus the prices are coming down which is actually we should segue into that the the prices of the GP is coming down right now well take away so I in in that piece I just talked about I actually do some price comparison with peace PC / picker because they have norsu a two year you can see it's a trend it right yes you can see a two year pricing trend and you can see that the price of like the eb g a black addition 1080 TI okay um i don't know if it's still available right now but as of when i shot this video a couple days ago there were they were actually in stock at new ache for 749 which was only about forty dollars above MSRP Wow now that was coming down fast yeah but that was also a little bit of a UH it was kind of like a one-off because it was like an outlier or out layer outlier whatever Oh everything else wasn't following that same trend most of the other brands were still like the 900s but if you look at where we were last summer um they were $1,500 even the ones that are 900 today yeah so what I found is right now the 10 60s and the 10 50s and stuff I 1050 1050 Ti you can get for just about MSRP because there's no right because those aren't good they're not good mining cards right but the reason why they went up in price was because the show's really gone off the rails so much tech being talked about we really apologize for all the Tech Talk tonight on Tech Talk you can't win I'm so I've been in work mode this week so I'm all like tech on the brain I forgot what that's like but what what happened what happened was because people couldn't buy the the really good cards it just bought whatever they could get their hands on in the mean time which put which put a supply chain issue on the 10 50s and 10 60s and all that stuff so they went up the price a lot yeah the 10 60 was about 30 years percent over launch price but it did seem to go up more than that as you went up the chain because again that cash rate you know performance but it's coming down hey well this because the you know usually when Bitcoin crashes in a theory I'm basically a Bitcoin chase each other right I mean both markets are affected by each other because a lot of people transact the currency between the two right i they really haven't rebound they haven't gone down much anymore but they haven't really rebound from the last crash and now that we know that Asics are coming out for for we we know this to be fact that Asics are coming out for aetherium I think the pressures just gonna come off of GPUs and long term people are gonna stop the miners gonna slow down and stop buying them that's gonna just bring the demand way way down and the price is gonna come along with it because I don't think the gamers are gonna come in even if every gamer in the world wants to buy a new GPU they're not gonna compete with the miners that are buying hundreds of thousands of these cars for big mines right so so I really do think that we're gonna see the price start to slowly come down and then just overnight it's just gonna tank down to MSRP or maybe even dip under it for a short period of time if they're not moving a lot of product well a lot of people are afraid of what's gonna happen with next generation and video cards because everyone knows there's gonna be a bump in performance across the board otherwise what's the point of a new family of graphics card and it's been really dramatic in the past - right so I mean their expectation should be it's consistently between 20 and 25% improvement I've done videos on that that's a lot though I mean like when you think about it i how much sheer performance is there is but it's artificially being controlled Nvidia won't allow it to go farther than that Jenson himself two years ago at the keynote for the Tesla P 100 when it launched their very first HP M card was for Enterprise Solution they built that you know the servers and and all that stuff out of them they didn't go to mainstream availability they and they use envy link and all that stuff he said in that keynote right then and there he's like an F and you got to give him at least credit for being this transparent he basically was like he's like we could have jumped five years ahead he's like we've gone so far with what we've been able to squeeze out of HBM and this is still technically their HP m1 tech like during this this keynote he goes we could have jumped five years ahead but he actually talked about investors and excuse me durable aluminum ELMO Jensen I was kidding he he he talked about I was talking about investors and and you know market research they spent like a billion dollars developing the the HBM technology that they're using he's like we could have jumped five years ahead and made this huge leap in graphics technology but yeah he sought to appease investors and costing and all that stuff they chose to take the annual incremental twenty twenty five percent improvement in terms of like what you can expect to see and grit and GPU desktop GP performance and stuff yeah but he basically was like we have developed five years ahead he's like but we are releasing it in bits so they're doing CPU manufacturers do the same thing though Intel is notorious and it knows never actually come out and said they did it true true but right but I personally know that because I've worked with there s TVs that are developed software development vehicles yeah two years before they were released to the public I mean I had a 32 core 32 core CPU and one of the server one of the one of the SDV server boxes that we had then I was testing one like I think the the most that they had was eight cores on a public CPU at the time or and yeah just eight cores was like the max they on the public not like a 32 core processor now you can get those like I mean it's literally years and years before it actually went public we were already doing the software testing and the confirmation on it with the kernel so maybe they're not publicly staying it saying it but it does make sense to only roll out technology just to edge out the competition just a little bit because then you have that many more releases that are almost free to you yeah right if you just jumped ahead and everybody have the superfast graphics card that would force that would either knock your competitor out which now you're you're basically setting the market at that point right you can do whatever you want or if the competitor then decides oh crap we got a punch which a lot of money it doesn't catch up and they catch up really quick and the outdo you've got nothing to run to yeah yeah no like you but that's kind of what happened with Rison and coffee lake so I'm right they up the schedule right because that came out like right after that I remember that I did a video in July June or July it was after Computex X 299 launched ahead of time X 299 was was launched at Computex when it was supposed to be out in like August September timeframe they pulled it in in that video I basically stated Coffee Lake is gonna come into I said coffee lake is gonna pull into 2017 so many people took an opportunity to like link me articles and link me all these things say no Jayla coffee lake isn't coming to a spring spring of 2018 and I basically I basically was like guys the writing's on the wall they're gonna pull it in they are starting to lose they're starting to AMD starting to regain market share I hate using the term lose market share because Intel definitely was losing market share but they still were the dominant market share holder right so when you say lose market share it makes it sound like you've lost the dominant right we need to retain that brand loyalty too if somebody moves to the faster AMD product and they're gonna start making some of at least a percentage of those are gonna make the assumption the AMD is now the better processor moving more and it's gonna be a uphill battle until I have a it's important to word at AMD was gaining back mark yeah sure there's very big difference there in terms of like investment speak but anyway um so when they when we got the emails about coffee leak like a month before the launch of course I just wanted to give the biggest middle finger and you know told you so to all the people calling me out saying I didn't know what the I was talking about sounds like J you know but I took the high road let's change gears real quick we're gonna get off tera a second here let's do it I said an idea for a fun little segment here so Fulbright gaming says barnacles he said barnacles his budget that he says what moment you should go play at J shop to get back and into work to know what it's like to work Tech again Wow I don't think my STI would make the commute it won't but I think you might want to go back to first grade grammar but anyway right now I think we should have a job interview we'll just do it so um hello mr. Berg my name is mr. two cents yeah oh well uh well hello mr. two cents already you're the kind of person that interrupts your boss okay good to know okay what now so why don't you tell me sorry I care easier that's gonna go in my head okay composure well okay why don't you give me an example of a very stressful project that you've worked on and how you overcame the stress to meet the success of the project alright well you may not you may not know this because I didn't put it on my resume out of sheer embarrassment but I used to work for a company called Microsoft you might have heard of it right so they make a lot of things really um you know I'm not not really specific on anything outside of the software you know I think they make mice and keyboards or at least real able other people's stuff but one of my most probably stressful projects I ever worked on when I was there was a little thing called Windows Windows Vista did you ever hear about that do you do what windows vista is I do actually we still use it here in the office we consider it to be the superior OS okay all right so I can see I'm going down a bad path here um so so Windows Vista was actually one of the hardest projects that I worked on because we kept resetting things over and over and over again and having to retest things over and over and over again and after all that hard work we still shipped a product that I was not proud of but they didn't listen to me when I told him to hold it back they were like no that one employee in this hundred and twenty some 1000 people company forgive me for interrupting you but what what what what product is that you were proud of this guy shipped this this was oh no no no not proud of Vista oh oh Windows Vista you are Windows Vista it was I mean it was a shitty operating system at least at first they patched the hell out of it and it was it was just a resource hog after that but uh was that was that before or after the excellent Windows ME well actually yeah you know a lot of people don't know this but the Windows 9x operating systems were the magnum opus of Microsoft like it was purely political that they got shut down like these should have been the dominant operating Circuit aches opium that's what you said right it's the opium product you you're probably looking at my dilated eyes oh yeah yeah OPM is good I like opium okay pretty decent I know we all took it at Microsoft well we were developing the software okay so we pride ourselves on punctuality here like we've got a pretty set schedule we're not we don't have the luxury at js2 senseof of the youtubers that just kind of come in whenever they want and leave whenever they want and don't have extracurricular activities lives families we have those here at Jay's to says so Rilla okay we start promptly at 9:00 a.m. our art I'm sorry what might be a little bit of a problem that might be a little bit of a problem because usually I'm just going to bed around then so do you okay I think I think I can change I think I can change you know it just might might take a day or two but I think I can change I'll do it for you because I think you got a good company here okay I can clearly see by how modernized your studio is and our professional looking it is that you guys are on a serious ship here well that's all this green screen so we we images a big thing here speaking of image we do require semi business casual dress attire but well like like like this jamma pants with a teacher okay that's what I do for my business it's actually written into the contract for my corporation that's probably gonna be a problem but do you have any solid print pants I do I mean do jeans count I mean it's kind of solid let's get up really close I got I got one pair of jeans don't if it's me don't wash or light colored jeans these are at least there would be a light color you know so I mean that screams 1990s so I'm a little bit okay let me tell you a little about us we okay let's hear about it so we're the older people of YouTube what I mean by that is a lot of YouTube channels say are being run by young people and by young people I mean they're under 30 and tell your gray hair you are of advanced years no this is this is experience not necessarily age and indicative this is just a spirit experience indicative that's how you get the level of gray the gray is actually my prestige but that's besides the point noted we have to remember that we are the older people that are addressing the I don't like to use the n-word but we're talking to Millennials most mostly and it's like wait what are what are what are Millennials they're kind of the generation that everyone's worried about in about ten more years but I think if we actually work really hard here we can actually change the course of the future so that's kind of what I'm working towards right here because I'm okay all right I'm not gonna live long enough to actually see the destruction that could come of come about but I'm a little bit concerned of you know the next generation so we have to remember that we're when we're dealing with this type of audience they're fickle they will they will unsubscribe at the drop of a hat you say one word they don't like and that unsubscribe button becomes their best friend so okay why don't you tell me what direction you would take the channel if you were to be maybe an additional host or personality here enjoy yourselves okay okay I think I think I've got something to offer in this department because I think that you guys are missing a huge opportunity in regards to where you can actually shoot videos and utilize your space in the studio like I didn't see a single camera in the bathroom mr. two cents not a single let me suffer there we have one but it's not easy to find oh my god oh god you just broke me right out of character I think I think I could actually bring a lot to your company though because I feel like you kind of you kind of sold out and stopped being a fat person I mean well you're still fat actually you don't mean that I'm morbidly obese person now I know let me stop you right there Mr Blair what miss okay all right mr. G that is an investment into my health okay do you understand where this is where I'm going with this like you will out survive the skinny people hired people get when they punch like an under inflated or under filled punching bag like your hand when your hand just gets like stuck right this wasn't great school Jay I know I got punched a lot right there's a lot of exhausted right when we're standing there eating a jelly filled donut and it's dripping on your stomach and they're just like going away like a speed bag they get tired before you feel the pain you the the average density of fat and I just threw my pen yes I was actually taking notes Jerry the I can't tell because you're too lazy to hook up a second camera the sad part is it's actually I'm actually taking notes on the back of my payment stubs for my car Artie gonna feel a little weird when they get this and they flip it over and it's like okay fat windows me know it's windows you anyway windows you know I I make my payments online but I digress so the density of fat do you know how that that could stop a bullet dude I've heard that stops bullets I saw an episode of cops once for this really big guy was shot like six times and he was just like I don't even go no hospital I'm fine that goes like a trickle of blood I think I'm same video like doesn't the guy come out I like his porch and they just like open fire on him and he just keeps coming at him like what no no this one was like a gang shooting oh he had survived it he was just like I knew hospital he had like two holes all over his belly but anyway um the other thing is you need to come at me with at least a nine inch blade to hit an organ pretty much okay so yeah I mean I've fallen on bat-knife several times and it hasn't done any damage beyond a band-aid so I mean you know okay so I derailed you with the the bathroom camera okay so you would want to do it you'd want to turn this into a voyeur experience I'm assuming no no no no no I just think that it's a good set like when you're sitting on the you're in a relatively good position you know and I and I'm an expert on this I've done quite a few videos both on Instagram and the Twitter platforms okay from the throne and I also find that it's good way to relieve pressure you know so a lot of people get really nervous you know in front of the camera but I find that particular Elvis massive unless you're Elvis that's true that's true unless you're Elvis I mean he is we don't want to die on the toilet I'm not I don't want to go down that direction let's not die on the toilet that would get massive eating some of your poop net pictures it looks like you're you know one squeeze away from an aneurysm well that's actually good acting as what that is Jay I'm not as good but I would definitely say it's acting well you know I try I really try and I and I feel like I make a connection with people when I do any kind of a review from the toilet because they're like this guy must really like this technology because he's not even waiting to get off the to share with us okay but I think that that's a good angle now the bathrooms a little tight to film like a full build video in there so okay mmm okay I took notes more camera bathroom or bathroom cameras got it doesn't get 110 people cameras not good enough got it yeah yeah pinhole battery-powered yeah you got it and then I've to go to the neighbors to look in it's cool so yeah anyway um moving forward what would you do in the main set well I think on the main set what I would do to really really enhance the experience is take my shirt off for at least 50% of the production okay because I feel like we're missing out on the entire french-canadian demographic by me keeping my shirt on okay fair enough the thing is the audience really likes to throw around the oh where a lot how do you how do you plan on dealing with the Oh word oh the Oh word like on a food oh wait but obese is it obesity no I'm talking about the the Oh word the real the Oh word people seems to seem to think that their version of the Oh word is more important than anyone elses oh oh oh you're talking about dare I said opinion yeah okay we're gonna say it oh a word that Shawna time the world oh we just got reported by at least 40 people in chatter damn it well what I would do about the O word right we're gonna bring me here for one second one second all right what's up that's not coming to go by it says Wow cringefest again it's like traffic Moo Cola well how come the people that is saltiest all have foreign names can anyone I don't understand English so it's weird to them they're all they see is you know it's weird to them I just wonder why every time someone's got the saltiest common it's um like freakin Bangladesh or something I don't get it it's like yeah Admiral Ackbar FBI scam okay I see it that asshole just scrolled away so it's fine okay back to check back to character all right well the way that I would take care of the O word J is by making sure that I use every possible synonym of the O word to intentionally avoid the O world we're still establishing my dominance and using the or here's the problem though okay when you're o word doesn't align with vero word they become o worded this is this is true this is a tough one to solve this is a slippery slope and this is what people don't understand about running a business like we do is that these there are 1.5 million landmines in front of me yes and trying to navigate all of those so I guess I'm curious as to whether or not this is the type of pressure you think you could actually handle well seeing is my past experience of laying in bed and watching Netflix and not making any content from a nearly million sub YouTube channel for for nearly a month I think more than qualifies me for being a reliable person that can deal with the stresses of the internet so you're telling me you're consistent and mentally stable very very consistent so some might even say I'm a genius on some levels I don't wanna I don't want to use the G word because apples apples gonna sue me character in belly okay those are good words I've used those a lot non truthful okay yeah that's that's a liar doesn't wear pants okay they're not well you know what I think this has been very enlightening and don't call us we'll call you and we will keep your resume on file why well I've heard that before was it the Dolores nobody calls anymore right it was no nobody ever calls me except for these damn scammers okay okay as a matter of fact here you know what I I got I got a beef here you know just yesterday mr. cringy went by again and comment that he was from India really I had no clue you were from India I didn't know okay I'm gonna be honest here and I'm gonna try to use my honest face okay I'm gonna be honest here I had Jim's about riding a moped something right now I mean no no what are they called the rickshaw is that really what they call it yeah I think the Rick shot the little three-wheeled vehicles that fit like 27 people oh yeah I think they're called rickshaw I was like take a take a ride in the wooden bus on the side the Himalayas exactly look at these calls I get after that you will be taken under custody by the local police as there are four serious allegations pressed on your name at this moment I just use all the tools with me like you get back to us so that we can discuss about this case before taking any legal action against you I love to read yes it's obviously a scam attempt I love others no mention of your name and then demand the English is like so broken it did change though the message did change the last message was you will be taken into custody if you don't calls back this one's like this is like your final notice Oh like like they did alter it slightly to reiterate that it was a second follow-up call and that I really need to get off my ass to send in Walmart gift cards okay well I'm get to get the guy's name already who triggered this whole like fake interview but I hope you enjoyed that you inspired this well done Jerry and I already know very well that if he was local we would not I could not be his boss ever no nowhere no way for all the reasons that Jay and I are friends or all the reasons why we can never officially work together in any kind of alpha versus beta kind of arrangement it would not work to be fair though I'm not I don't really I don't really run this place like an alpha anymore that's why we got Brian Brian Brian handles all the the inner communication and interpersonal communications suite you don't just scream bloody murder Ryan and tell him to leave who's Oh Brian yeah no I got Brian sorry sorry your editor you know what Phil is it Phil I yell at him but it's all joking and he yells back at me and I get said the thing is I like I like doing like collaborations and stuff with you but yeah we it would never work if you were my boss cuz you'd be like I need this now and I would just be like now I know why you're here while you were on that automated chopping block it is true they were they were paying me if I you know I can admit that you know I'm gonna be the better man and admit that Microsoft even though an algorithm laid me off I did make way more money than I should have for what I did fair enough I will I will come out and say that because you were paying me an insane amount of money okay for what I did I will also go out there and admit that they were paying you way more money than me I think I think I think any professional youtuber sure if maybe Linus Linus takes such a corporate approach to as to his his the way he works I think pretty much all of us are overpaid going to the truth yeah I think you know you know we're I mean honestly speaking now not just around I think we're I really went wrong was everybody else kind of changed with the YouTube industry like took it seriously the professionalism of it like went where the money was did the right things to grow and establish themselves and I think I just hey I just held on to the Hobby aspect of it yeah yeah I think that's ultimately what kind of do me and then ultimately sent me down a path where I started taking too seriously cuz it's like I didn't treat it like a job I treated it like here's a bunch of people that I just wanna have fun well I think it's hard to maintain it as a hobby though because what happens is you grow an audience and the brand's all come at you and then they start dangling carrots and then you're like I'm just gonna take a nibble of this you're like oh yeah that's that's a fat carrot but I mean I to be honest a hundred percent transparent we leave so much money on the table here because one we don't have the bandwidth to take all the work - there's lots of bands that want to work with me that I'm not willing to work with like everyone knows I work with Nord VPN you know tunnel Bayer hit us up and I was like nope sorry we work with Nord and and there was there was a there was a there was a conversation like sort of semi taking place of like well if you want to change it up blah blah and it's like no no I'm this is this is the way I'm doing it you know so not just people want to bet you be like yeah you make too much money which is kind of I've got do you know I've got two weddings and two college education that I've got to pay for in the next you know what seems like fifteen years is not that long away well you know I can teach you how my parents raised me worthy you don't have to no no no no no no I'm we're good we're good we're good I mean I mean they basically fed me you know what obviously they fed me but you know it's like beyond that I think it was just like alright see ya does thermo fair yourself this thermal fake want to work with you they did reach out to me several times since my whole issue with thermal take and of course I told them like no absolutely not I mean yeah so I haven't done a sponsorship and over I think it's been close to two years since I actively did anything with a company other than them just sending me something to either review or not read here's writing though so I try to be as transparent as possible I mean I I'm not hiding anything from anyone I think a lot of my diehard like my core following knows like that I'm not I don't just okay there's people no matter what people are gonna accuse you of selling out and chilling but I think my core audience right now is that I have standards that I that I maintain with boundaries within it didn't have standards you would be rich is and you would be three times your size that's true that's a true statement I've had a lot of people approach me about exclusives and stuff like we want you to exclusively use all the product it's like no no I don't I don't do I don't I don't do that because yeah especially when it comes to like heart like main hardware and stuff and I've got my brands and I'm really personally loyal to like I really like sanctum and the cable sleeping of stuff and Jo and I have become good friends but he he's he does more larger-scale like stuff with like Intel and stuff like that where I've decided to team up with cable ma to do my cables because they have just been so accommodating to me they can get them done quickly and they're like anything you need let us know you've got it so I'm loyal to them and like yes I'm gonna use cable MOT cables in my builds and stuff because they have been good to me so we created this relationship before there was ever the like hey J we never met you we want to throw a bunch of money at you and have you use only our stuff that's like that's like the way streamers operate no no offense is any Street are you know ferret out ferret up um this one the reasons why people like ninja if you know who ninja is he's he's like the largest twitch streamer now I believe right like yeah and I know yes um was talking with a brand that's working with him and here's the thing this is the kind of guy ninja is and this is why he's growing like he is he was doing like a meetup thing in Vegas or whatever like he was doing like some eSports thing and I mean he's the same guy that that streamed with Drake or yeah Drake right so it's like this guy is freaking massive basically the brand that was there sponsoring him was like hey can we can we have our meeting and he's like yeah give me like 30 minutes he didn't come to the meeting for over two hours because he refused to leave the meet-and-greet until he had met everyone that's awesome that tells you a lot about a person like that you know that's huge and I hope his head on his shoulders stay that stays like that because the thing is the more you get Fame and the more you get money and stuff people do change I mean as much as I try and be the same person I was in day one we've all changed in some way sure and so I mean I have huge respect for a guy like that but my point is hopefully my core audience knows that guys you are streaming now just saying that's that's a good point no just sayin streamers that's talking about the streaming platform yeah he likes like twitch and stuff like that like I could never do live stream as a living that that I feel like that requires more dedication and mindset then making recorded content but that's that's not my point I'm trying it's way different it's definitely different my core audience knows that I'm not gonna just take whatever money comes my way and I will you're not gonna promote something you don't believe in because I just know that you won't do that I wish I could share with you guys the amount of money we leave on the table but obviously that's all that's all non-disclosed corporate information company information luckily for them I can disclose what I left on the table I actually got an offer just not this year but last year from it I won't say who it is we got a respect because they are a good company but I've had 3d printing companies offered me a six-figure a year salary for exclusively using their printers and working with them directly on projects and stuff like that yeah I also received another close to six-figure request from a company that makes a certain energy drink that I refuse them to because one I just don't use it into I don't believe what they're they're advertising I don't I don't like the way they advertise I don't like how they engage the public and how they have no PR so there's just certain things that I won't cave on right that I've told myself that like no amount of money is gonna make me cave on this but I'd be lying if I told you then I feel confident in those decisions today you know knowing that I'm merging income and everything like that and I'm not getting things done I'm not doing what I want to do right so so it's it it's absolutely something that you have to balance with yourself and I mean we're being very real with you guys right now I mean this is to make a living online you cannot just get on and say I'm gonna do exactly what I want to do a hundred percent of the time and treat this like a hobby and come and go as I please and expect it to be hugely successful the people that it even appears that that's what's happening that is absolutely not what's happening yeah even the vloggers you know I've been to vlogger fair I know a lot of the family bloggers and everything none of them are let's just wake up in the morning and turn on a camera and have a good time no it is very very premeditated it is very very land out because you have to show your best side you do you have to it'd be so boring if you just woke up and you're like you know I'm gonna lay in bed and eat some cereal and watch a show for an hour and then I'll get up and go wash the car it's like no you have to wake up and be like what would be exciting and and then I can edit down to ten minutes or 20 minutes or how long you want it's like the people that comment on the vlogs that I do about struggling with weight gain and and all that and and you know depression and all that stuff I haven't really had depression problems the last several years I've been pretty mentally healthy there but a lot of people were like damn you oh you're the man talking about this stuff and you know it takes a lot of guts to put that out and the thing is I don't really feel like it does maybe maybe I'm a sociopathic in just the sense that I kind of have no filter and I've always just put it out there and it's just the way I am but so correlation gaming common and said ninja also got super salty and upset that he read a donation from fractal Josh heiping bit wit ninja accidentally read it out loud and said that he shouldn't have read that channel name out loud um I can I can see both sides of that I could lose that just cuz he wanted to get paid more for it or was it because he actually doesn't ever endorse anybody or as a competing he thinks he wants to be seen as some sort of an exposure platform got it I know I don't I know I don't I didn't work my ass off to build this audience just to have someone come in and like self promote but in this case yeah Josh wasn't self promoting I haven't seen the comment but I have to assume he was probably talking about man versus build because that's the that's like the collaboration between Josh and bit like Josh wouldn't just be going around going to I got a bit way you know he's probably like hey you want to see some exotic cars and PC building check out this you know I guarantee Josh wasn't spending money to promote Kyle I guarantee true Josh went spinning but I could see where ninja would get salty in that like because the moment that name is mentioned it's like if he's got a you know 150,000 people watching how many of them just went and looked up that channel and did he just boast a competitor see those right the other thing is like I don't look at this channel as a competitive being this is not I'm not competing with Kyle I'm not competing with Paul definitely I competed with Linus I'm not competing with people in the same genre I truly subscribe to the mindset that a rising tide raises all ships and having more people in the space watching in it's in a hole brings more viewers my way as well trying to if you're highly collaborative like nobody can argue that you haven't collaborated with a lot of people I love collaborate know yeah I mean arguably a lot of those people you collaborate collaborate with we're a lot smaller than you are arguably yeah so so so I'm not saying that you're you know I'm not throwing you out there like you're gonna go and collaborate with brand new channels that just started and stuff like that there has to be a mutual benefit but I'm just saying they that I think that your actions speak alongside your words because if I were just a loner you would just be a loner and you would just suck it all up and you would compete with everybody but you don't I appreciate that where that mindset of mine stems from is when I had 14,000 subscribers I just hit like fourteen thousand subscribers which was not quite a year in on the channel I remember commenting once on lionesses when show I don't think was called when show at the time it was something else this is the live shows I think he called it and I made the con I asked him once I said hey man I've been doing this for I don't think was like eight months now it's like eight months and I've just hit 14,000 subscribers is there any advice you'd give to somebody like if you could go back and give advice to your early self what would it be oh boy if they vie to go back and give myself advice like back at that level like when I was just in my stride and a thousand subscribers was something that was like oh my god what happened you know jumping around and everything the advice to get that I'd probably give to myself is I hate to say it but almost just like lower your expectations yeah that's fair is what I would give myself because once I started really growing fast it almost became kind of an addiction to see that it was almost a self-serving addiction that it's like oh man these numbers are going was like a video game right it's like I'm getting to the next level I'm getting next thing people are talk other youtubers are talking to me they didn't want to talk to me before because I put in the time and effort to show them that you know I can I can role I can play in this in this territory but at the same time I mean there's a lot of luck involved in this too there's a lot of meeting the right people at the right time there's a lot of just hitting on the right topic like a lot of the stuff that way viral was stuff I never thought would go viral that did the most like you know building of my brand in Channel yeah out of anything so I guess what I give myself back then is I would say like don't get don't get so big for your Brit you know for your britches like even even you and I have kind of gone back and forth a little bit as we've grown in have been competitive to a certain degree back in the day right we're growing it's like we were kind of edging each other out and I was giving you a little and you were giving me a little and we were going to go and going but it's like eventually you get to a point where you start to realize that the bigger you get the more exaggerated the the noise gets and the anger and that stuff starts pulling you in and that stuff I didn't even think about when I was small I thought oh my god if I get a million subscribers it's gonna be the most awesome thing ever I'm gonna be doing everything I want I'm gonna be going to buy in golf streams and flying around the world and having a good old time and it's like yeah that's simply not true huh well not to mention a subscriber without a thousand a million subscribers today is not like five years ago when we were first starting but true but back when we were starting yeah it's like it's like there was a time guys where a million subs would make you a very wealthy person but not more what Linus his answer to me was and this is what I still carry with me to this day was he said that he would go back and do more collaboration so he wish he had made it a bigger effort to collaborate with other people in the same space and so I've always I've always I've always just followed that I mean I I give lie I fling line of here and there Linus and I are actually we are very well connected in terms we think very very much the same the more time I got to spend with him talking with him you know I'm having lunch and dinner with him and any mood yeah even just hanging out with him and his wife we realized like we've got a lot in common in the way we handle ourselves so I would I'm gonna be at Linus tech Expo in July I hope people here watching are going to be there and come up say hi and meet me but I couldn't not support him he asked if I want to come and just attend he's like I can't pay or anything but I just love to have you there if you want to come hang out it wasn't like Jay can you come and promote this it was do you want to come hang out with us and I was like absolutely I couldn't not support him regardless of what your feelings on Linus are he legit actually I like Linus personally well he always had I don't mean you I mean the audience oh um he legitimately paved the way that allowed me to give my family a quality of life that I could not have otherwise done now doesn't mean Linus did it for me but it means he did at least shred you know for me to forge a path that allowed me to kind of sort of follow in the idea of how this could work which then allowed me to kind of adapt it into it my own way and everything's been yeah everything's been good but to kind of grow on what you had said you can't you can't be a really small Channel and of course everyone's idea of really small is gonna be different right the guy with 500 subs is gonna feel like five is really small with a guy with 500,000 subs it's gonna feel 5,000 small whereas the guy with five hundred things five thousand is like oh my God my life is a dream right you pretty much what happened I've done this in the past is I I've worked it collaborated with a cup with a really small channel a couple of different times and it was the same every time and what I mean by that is it was hey Jay what do you want to do next time when you want to do another one when you want to turn into this whole like this expectation if we were gonna do it all the time and yeah because I get angry when you didn't want to oh yeah suddenly I'm too big for them you know they happens I'm too popular for them and and I can't hang out with them anymore and it's like that's not even what this is literally the idea of collaborating with a really small channel as a big channel has it's one of two things and I don't think it's any different than this one you really freaking like the person so you just wanna legitimately and genuinely help them out and think that they're great or - it's a charity you are literally going to do the collaboration to help bring them some subs and then move on and never talk again right you just helping them out the problem is either way is kind of number two is definitely a bit disrespectful I don't think it's respectful to just jump in on someone's channel and do a collab - like here here's here's some residual subs of mine you can have them and off you go and never talk again because then that person is left wondering like what did I do to piss off Jay you know I mean right and then there's the legitimate we like you and want to work with you kind of like when you were working with lioness and doing the collapse you know yeah so I did lioness gave me a lot of good information back it's my fault that I didn't take it hee-hee early on you know we deemed a lot yeah about stuff watching my videos actively he told me what I was doing wrong what I could change editing stuff I mean he gave me a lot of information and quite frankly I you know where you took it I didn't yeah and here we are high voltage 12 volt or 12v says look at some oh now she's huge thanks to your show and unfortunately if you guys haven't heard she does have a brain tumor that needs to be operated on later this month so we definitely wish her the best of health and lend her some love guys we she did not get her start on this show and and let me clarify that she was already doing something that caught the attention of Jerry and me and our show may have put a little bit of wind in her sail but where she went from there was a hundred percent her this is why I hate this concept of you know Jay you'd be nobody without your audience that is a hundred percent true but it's a two-way street I'd be nowhere without my audience but my audience won't be here watching if I wasn't putting in the work to give you something worth watching so right it's a two-way street yes the audience allows me a means to continue this perpetual cycle both has needs the other to survive there are people out there that believe that the viewer holds all the power and that's not true because if I was out here making content the viewers won't stick around it's it's a two-way back scratch so I hope that makes sense I hate that what does I hate that argument of well you know Jay you are who you are because we're here it's like but but how did you find me in the first place I did something you liked and stuck around so it's it's definitely a mutual benefit to all of this right we had a couple of our tech topics I want to talk about absolutely did you have another one before I move on to mine okay so we're gonna save the Google thing for dead last all right we do that yeah okay so then we've we've got 30 more minutes I need to leave dead at 6:30 because I'm cycling home and it is getting windy as hell out there and this is gonna suck all right well then I'll make this really quick so those of you guys that are that have been kind of niggling over whether you should install the latest windows April update for Windows 10 just beware there are quite a few issues that are being reported especially on Intel platforms of a lot of lock ups a lot of instability some boot manager issues and the one that seems to be universal that I get messaged about the most is the microphone not working the microphone just suddenly doesn't work anymore and it doesn't fix in the mixer you basically have to go through one of the configuration things like for voice configuring voice to get it to basically reinitialize the microphone and then everything starts to work again so there are quite a few issues with her right now I don't know why Microsoft hasn't recalled it to try to repair those issues and read redeploy it usually that's what they do so I'll just leave it at that just beware if you guys are installing that make sure that you have restore points in place make sure that you have a full backup if you can using like Clonezilla or another utility and that's clones oh I love Clonezilla man Clonezilla is like open source imaging software you can image the gnash you can image to DVD media if you have a burner that's compatible you can image two USB thumb drives pretty much anything even just other hard drives in the computer or the hard drive you're imaging to itself I mean you can do so many different things it's not very intuitive though so I will be doing a tutorial video on it hopefully soon the other thing I just wanted to just touch on really quick before we go to the Google topic is Apple iOS 11 point for update coming out for those of you guys to have an iPhone I know there's a lot of you that are Android lovers keep in mind I ride the line I carry both a razor phone and an iPhone 7 plus so so I can appreciate what they both bring to the table they are implementing a cool new feature it's called USB restriction mode that's supposed to help defeat some tools that the government's using for recovering data and stuff off your phones because it takes some time to get a warrant this goes all the way this goes all the way back to the San Bernardino terrorists shooting you you know it so basically happens right that's true that's true yeah you could hear it yeah oh my god so basically what Apple's trying to combat is basically the freedom of privacy which is kind of strange when you think about it because there's a lot of places where they violate privacy pretty blatantly themselves but what they're trying to do is prevent your phone from if it's confiscated or taken by somebody or the government to basically limit their options to be able to recover data on that device without your passcode well they've created some devices that can break into the phones basically using various different methods of breaking the encryption and getting into the device well they're replacing they're they're putting a new feature into the next update for the phone that's basically gonna put it into a USB restricted mode where it will not communicate through USB if it's left disconnected for seven days and the reason that they chose seven days arbitrarily is due to how long it takes for a government agency to get a warranty to attempt where instead of I'm sorry war I don't work the government weren't to search this place better than Apple Care search warranty warrant so so anyways by the time that they get a warrant the idea what the feature being is that by the time they get a warrant the phone will be in complete lockdown and they won't be able to use any of their methods to basically brute force cracking of it yeah so kind of a neat feature there are a lot of like more questions than answers around it is the why did they pick seven days why isn't this gonna be configurable what happens in the situation where you're out like camping or something like that and then the phone gets completely locked up after seven days what's the recovery path there's a lot of questions but I think it's actually a cool idea in principle that they're trying to solve a hardware problem like this with a simple software change so it's it we'll see how it works out but unfortunately I think it's probably gonna end with a bunch of phones getting orphaned and and and the Genius Bar is gonna have a line five miles long but anyways it's kind of a cool attempt all right go ahead J what do you got Hobbs just send chat also federal appeals appeals court just ruled that forensic searches of devices at the border are unconstitutional interesting right let's just be fair labeling something as unconstitutional doesn't stop it from happening yeah not tell anybody's yeah pretty much okay so before we move on on the Google topic I have more small and I want to talk about easier I'm sure we've all seen the breathalyzer right it's the you have a little too much alcohol to drink tonight I could smell alcohol on your breath and then becomes a speaking of search warrant that gives some probable cause to do the breathalyzer and you don't have to take the breathalyzer but if you refuse the breathalyzer in most states especially California then they can they can detain you arrest you bring you into the jail and then a blood tech will come and physically draw blood from your arm wrecks where they will check for blood alcohol content or BAC so they have these breathalyzers that you blow into on the side of the road it could detect the level of alcohol in your system purely by your breath they'll use them for fun for you really you would do that and then you get on the simulator right yeah that's right yeah there's videos on the internet go find him I'm not going to tell you how so apparently researchers in the u.s. say they've developed a low-cost chip that can detect cocaine in minutes the team hopes it will be rapid development a portable cocaine breathalyzer that would tell of a person to view has used the drug now there are places in the country especially in various large cities in the US that have cocaine epidemics and cocaine problems probably Florida for the most part would explain all the crazy people in Florida but I'd all the shirts yeah I digress you know it's one has to wonder if Nvidia could it may be benefited from the cocaine breathalyzer when they came up with the GPP idea there they were all like oh my god man we can get him in partnership and then they gotta do what we want but but you have but you have a okay so you have a physical ratio of blood to alcohol chronic alcohol to blood content with BAC right yeah in your lungs really I what is the ratio of you you got four Newtons of cocaine in your blood I mean we've detected you got at least one millionth of tenth of a gram do you like how every time we come up with a scenario where southern what does that mean yeah III think I think we're we're like closet racist against rednecks keep me races against rednecks no I think I think we are no I think we're I think we're well I used to be red I get grew up around I've never met a redneck that didn't just accept it actually or just be proud of it I remember I grew up I was like crowded should have beer in you man toothless hillbilly redneck damn straight here you gotta go to the dentist for nothing hold on I can't hear you over two bald eagles in the ears screech right after that it's like oh we're not even in the animal preserve what negative what should we do that we have to do we do have a little a little Patriot montage and the video going up on Monday it's weird to have all this this plugging to do I've never had this much lead time the videos that are ready to go live because I'm gonna be gone all next week so trust me when I say the next two videos tomorrow's tomorrow morning's and Monday mornings you don't want to miss those trust me I just can't believe you got so many videos cued up it's making me jealous that I don't like don't have a studio and an editor and somebody to operate cameras where I can just sit there and be like alright I mean the next thing yeah it's definitely Phil and I definitely worked our ass off Phil comes in three days a week he's not full-time and we definitely had to like leapfrog and tag-team and and you know I shot a video Wednesday just myself and then we shot one today that's going live on Monday we shot one Tuesday that's going live Friday like the thing normally if you see a video go up for me you know it was like either shot like within the last 24 hours that that that's usually what I think when I see it because I know what I do my cameras like freaking out this is gonna be like the first time yeah there's like all kinds of wavy lines apparently there's a search warrant on my camera anyway search warrant you so this is like the first time that you're gonna see a video go up for me and it's like days and possibly even a week old weird right wow that is weird out in the camera for this really weird thing goes oops stupid Microsoft camera video that there's sachet cam do your camera's artifacting I've been talking about it for like five minutes and you're gonna tell me it's artifacting like I don't free don't see it you know one thing I want to say before we get off the topic of you having it editor Phil Phil's editing is so on point in that car and here's like I was so jealous when I saw it I was like I wish car gasm could be like that and here's the thing I I hold him back I don't let him spend the time on the videos like he wants to because we still have not got that luxury of being far enough so here's the thing yeah we're a whole week ahead but next week is gonna suck up that that buffer period and we'll be back for one when I get back we all wanted to take him to edit that video that the car video the teepee estimate he did it over time it wasn't a profit I mean to give you an idea of that that outtie video just went live what yesterday yeah I had that car April 9th so do the math right oh geez okay so so he had some yeah he probably had some decent time invested I'm just wondering like is he one of those guys that could sit down and like bang that out in two hours no Phil okay Phil is meticulous he's a quick editor but he he's he's he definitely owe CDs on a lot of the little things and it shows its show like all the little transitions with like the little like lighting players and stuff I was like whoa this looks like TV like production quality stuff you should see some of the stuff he's produced for the other company who works for they work for clients and they do stuff like major clients like PlayStation and stuff like that so you should see some of the work that he's done but we'll get to that point yeah I told him and here's more that transparency behind-the-scenes stuff guys I told him when he first started here I was like you know your resume your portfolio proof that these are the things he worked on he could have just showed a video and be like yep I did it but he like he pulled it down off you know keep it right um I told him I said this is this is an end goal that's an end game goal for us to work up to I was like we can't just start producing this super crazy like Gerry I'll show you a sample later on of what I mean like one of his resume videos like we can't just suddenly start producing that level of content because it's too jarring for the audience to see my usual raw rough-around-the-edges type of edits and stuff to just suddenly be like super polished shiny you know amazing edits because we have oh yeah at that point so just a touch just a touch on that really quick that's something that actually did happen on my channel you remember the drone video the Volare edited for me the one we read everybody did like lost their in the comment somebody's like this was in Jerry's video somebody else was putting it in producing this video put on this is a commercial yeah and it literally was shot exactly how I wanted it shot they just did the editing on it but it was just so over-the-top and different there's quite a difference between having having it in your mind we want to look like and being able to do it yourself right that's why I it's why I hired a professional to do it that's good yeah so and to be fair to in the beginning there was a lot of people that were commenting shaky camera fills shaky feel shaky to be fair I gave him my equipment that that was set up for Nick to use and it was not like something he was used was not like the type of stabilizers and stuff that we have was not something that he likes so basically asked him he sat down one day I said Phil what tools do you need for me what I need to buy to make you comfortable and he's like buy me this this and this and I did and since then we have not had a single complaint about camera movement camera shake or camera work that's all so he knows like his craft and that's important I know my craft to the problem is just like you described I know in my head where I want to look like but I don't have the editing skills to do it but we we've gotten enough synergy now in the two months he's been here to be able to spit ball an idea with him and then he'll start to do it and they were like yeah let's do this and we'll do that and we'll sit there together in the Edit and then it will evolve together like together we will get the final the final it's not like I just hand him a video and be like here you go edit it ok thanks for the file upload no I'm still editor-in-chief obviously on everything right otherwise it wouldn't turn out anything like what you're expecting it's like let him do the perfect transitions and everything but there are places where timing is important the order of operations what you want to see what you want to throw away that stuff that you know decisions that he's not gonna make that you're gonna just be like oh that's perfect we he does the rough the rough cut right and then we go back through and do the fine bits of details and then he sends me the final project I go through make my changes and then we put in life it's crazy that you can do that much work and still get that much of a backlog like it clearly shows you're just barely sleeping this week especially yeah Tuesday I rolled in at like 8:00 in the morning and then I got home at 9:00 at night I mean that's it's a 13 hour day it's not my longest day Nick and I put in we were in that the thread Ripper video remember when that video went live the crazy custom build that we did the woman all the crazy bends and the that weird-looking symbiote case that I built yeah so that one they're not including the build time the actual shoot time to do all the b-roll and the editing on that video put it together we were here 19 hours straight oh that's crazy we didn't get we didn't actually go home until like 3:00 in the morning so yeah it was pretty ridiculous shows an end result though it does but then we were like never again you know even do is you need to like go back like like do a throwback and be like Phil rego remix and re-edit this video like however you want it to be and then release it is like what do they call it when they like Rio remaster rewind like episodes remastered like go find your really old content that you did way back in the day and then just let Phil just totally go to town with like after-effects of and see what it looks like like you're really old stuff see what he comes up with I think that would be amazing I would watch that literally like once a month if you just said today is throwback from my you know World of Warcraft funny skit video or whatever years ago I'm gonna let Phil it know we've got skits we're planning on we're gonna be doing some skits we're gonna be giving a Kyle a run for his money trust me so we have got some ideas Dead Specter just said Jay on VHS Jerry on DVD because the lines going through my camera look like tracking lines does I remember the tracking little knob so come on top then I want to see you Jay do you keep all of your footage right now we technically don't we definitely keep the outputted file but I'm still been just too busy to finally put together that well the rig is together I have to still do a raid card for four of my drives but I still have that massive rig that Linus is sponsored that I have to finish putting together so we got a 10 terabyte drive on his machine obviously and then we've got a hundred terabytes I think 100 terabytes or 80 terabytes on the rig that were built for storing stuff but it would come in handy because there's things we want to go back and reference over time right and be like hey remember we did this video it's nice not to have like an h.264 video dropped in a ProRes line you know I mean no yeah so anyway perspective says this is Tech Talk yeah that's bullshitting it's it's hard to keep that stuff like me I don't have probably five percent of the original projects from my videos that I've created yeah most of it is the rendered video because I just don't have the storage for even with 70 I have 70 terabytes of storage between my two nasa's now obviously i use a lot of that for like family photos and storing other stuff other it's not just strictly for the business but there the amount of space that you need to backup especially with you shooting raw on some stuff yeah like you would the amount of space that you'd need would be in the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of terabytes to be able to keep everything for a year are you ready for this we've got the two adam of shogun infernos we use them as monitors like we don't even record to them anymore because we found that like dealing with the raw timeline yeah you know it just was it was extra steps that didn't need to happen after youtube compression so we haven't we have the means to do you know raw and pro res level stuff but in our environment it just wasn't necessary so we paid for we actually paid for our lighting engineer to come in here and create lots for our cameras so now well now we shoot with the mixed cameras or even all three cameras over in a7s2 we have an F s5 and an F a seven mark - always those three different cameras three different sensors three different looks with the same settings so he did all of the he create all the LUT so now if we drag them in our timeline and drop our lutz on them they all look matched which is that's awesome that's gonna save a lot of time yeah we suisse definitely cuz then color correction is minor rather than dealing with like this massive color correction needs to take place every single time so yeah okay so we got one less topic to talk about before we get out here we got 14 minutes left in the show and that Giri I'm gonna let you take it away that one being Google duplex Google Google duplex is Google's new technology that they just recently demoed basically showing how an AI with an artificial voice can actually mimic a human being in a full-blown unscripted conversation with another person over the phone the idea of this technology is the eventually manifests itself as an application on your phone where your personal assistants can proactively do things with other human beings on your behalf like for instance you want to get a haircut you could say you know okay Google you know schedule me a haircut for 2:00 p.m. tomorrow but remind me to update everyone about the YouTube read suggestion you had for me last week Oh will do will do so so that basically the idea here is you you say okay Google I want to hear a cut at 2:00 p.m. tomorrow and the digital assistant then calls the place that does the haircut and then has a very natural conversation with them so that they don't feel like they're talking you know to a computer like press 1 for this and press 2 for that cuz they just hang up and it basically emulates a human voice it's it's scary how happy right where I feel like it was faked yeah and that's that's that's just it is it may have been a scripted scenario for the demo but the ultimate goal in the interaction is very very fluid if you were a person on the other end of the phone it best you might think that the way that they're responding is slightly awkward but you would never suspect that it was a computer especially it was interval we were listening to it on Google i/o yeah we're hearing it through super like high fidelity call yeah not e-commerce bomb going to grow on that once you put the the compression of the phone call into play I think it would be hard to determine the the voice if what we were hearing wasn't just straight-up a hoax and that's the thing it sounded so convincing that I the word hoax comes to mind like I just am not convinced that what we saw was truly being handled by AI I am not against so so let's let's just for the benefit of the argument let's say that their demo is legitimate okay at least to some degree so the idea being here is that your phone would have this app that is your personal assistant that would do things on your behalf and it speaks in such a natural way that it doesn't just keep repeating the same things over and over again it actually puts in little airs and little quips into the conversation yeah so it sounds more fluid yeah like um you know your little pauses and stuff literally the the the rare content that I do script because I do have a teleprompter it's yeah it's rare that I script videos but sometimes I will for ad reads and stuff there was a while there where I was doing a perfect example the the crazy three-way 980 water-cooled gigabyte graphics card monstrosity thing was totally a scripted video strip scripted video because there was so much information I want to make sure I got through that I did script that video and actually spent two days writing the script read it out loud practiced at multiple times and I found that anywhere anytime I had a natural speaking um or pause or whatever I wrote it into the script so I actually it the script was literally as if it was a transcript of me something I've already said rather than me reading something I want to say so does have to otherwise it comes off disingenuous and nobody notice know how you're not a single person noticed that video is scripted I have approximately twenty or twenty-five videos out of my thousand and whatever that are scripted 100 cent every word every um every comment every cough scripted and nobody noticed nobody I guarantee you guys cannot go find those videos and tell me which ones they are a hint they're the ones where he actually knows a bunch of the tech stuff and nails it it's it's the ones where I don't misspeak yeah it's one breeze like yeah the Intel the Intel quad core processor has like 3.2 micron water cooled muffler bearing interface to the main bus and six even names even then you can't tell which ones a high percent scripted because I will put those props like those specs up on the prompter just not rolling okay so Google duplex is basically doing the same thing it's putting quips into the conversation to make you sound more human and the synthetic voice that it's using also changes in pitch and tone so if it says yes or yes please or yeah that sounds good or yes they keeps doing that to the conversation it'll it'll continuously change it so that it doesn't sound like it's playing back a soundboard now the the scary thing about this is how good it is it doing its job it's a bot that can basically dupe a human into thinking that they're communicating with a real person and then ultimately use that data and act on the data that they're getting from the other person I'm laughing because Pistol Pete in chat says Jay has to go soon he's getting to the end of his tape he's yeah we're gonna make sure you rewind it before you go back so so think about think about the consequences of this for a second this is why it's kind of scaring people as Google's like yeah this is really cool and it'd be cool to have a personal assistant on your phone that could do things on your behalf in a natural way and then even talk to you in a natural way I think it'd be cool Siri wasn't like completely dumb which it is like hey Siri what's up ins oh hey what's going on today you know hey it incorporated things about my life into the conversation that would be cool what isn't cool about it is when this bot becomes available and used by scammers used by companies that are trying to you know commit fraud or dupe you into buying things or sell products what if my big my biggest concern is what if it's able to mimic voices meaning it can recreate my voice or your voice or whatever and that technology exists Adobe it'll be already created it and the reason it's not even main streaming out right now is because there are some really really serious it's going to be used for bed yeah absolutely so I I I said I watched it several times I've watched several people's videos about duplex and I'm I'm so convinced it's fake like 100% fake like they just took a recording in like a looker word REI can dude we're still years away from this being real but look what you can do I'm sorry if it's that good you're gonna you're gonna show it more and what it would have sold me as a believer that this is not being hoaxed or slashed embellished on its accuracy is if they showed some of the failures cuz it could have big comical if they were that far away if they were that far away and anyone who follows this type of tech is gonna be you know is interested in the bloopers - when tech goes wrong yeah show us some of the bloopers where it was like I'd like to make a hair appointment okay when were you thinking large pizza you know like I don't know whatever so what at the same time they don't want to show its fallible like even though that's a real-world scenario you don't want a label every single thing we know about tech is fallible in some way sure but NVIDIA doesn't get up there go our cpu overheat if you're on it for more than ten minutes I mean they don't say that even though it's true in some situation there is 3.5 out of 4 gigabytes yeah you don't got all your memory they didn't they know they did a real it was pointed out right okay fair enough but that's because that would that was responsive that wasn't being proactive but guys think about what happened if this technology especially if it could do voice synthesis you know of somebody else imagine having the like East Indian scammers for instance right now they call and they use an obvious computer voice most people aren't gonna fall for it they're gonna shut it off they're gonna think it's up and hang up and plus they can only call as many people when there's human interaction as they have physical humans right if this bot existed you could in theory simultaneously call hundreds of thousands of people without having to employ a scammer and have one of those things have a custom-tailored conversation with that person to dupe them into giving up something you're right and it's very very scary like here's another technology if you ever looked at deep fakes before no ok so deep fakes is a technology that's open source that allows you to basically put it's like face swapping but its face swapping on a level that you almost can't even tell that it's fake it is so realistic like did you ever see the video where they did the Barack Obama say and all the up it was like key and Kenan was at Kenan or Pele or one of those guys did it he basically did his impression in live imposed Obama's face saying something that he normally wouldn't say and it looks almost dead-on accurate and so deep faces this technology where they can do that now you basically train a system with tons of photos and pictures of the person and it goes and graphs it and figures out the perfect lighting figures out the exact amount of noise to put into it and everything so in the end you get something that looks incredibly natural even with a lot of movement and a lot of head-turning and stuff like that it's the first time I saw it I was like no away like I've seen face swaps you can tell it's a face that was how that one guy made that parody video of us oh absolutely no that's exactly what I was talking about a little creeped out cuz he put our face on his face yes and it was very very clean now keep in mind he trained that with very little data the more pictures that you have and the more video that you have to train it with the more accurate it would be if he had to spent like a week on that and like took you know a hundred of your videos and processed a hundred versions of your face in those videos and then use that and applied it it would have looked dead on like you on his body like perfectly yeah and so that technology scares me and audio is a lot less sophisticated to fool people than video right I mean just from a pure sense point of view so you bring these technologies together we've got some interesting coming out in the future because you have the ability to basically put anybody's head or face on anybody else's body you have with Adobe's technology you can synthetically create their voice from text which means it's not even modulating your voice to another voice it's literally a text script that it can read and convince somebody that it's that person and you got a technology that's AI that can actually respond to light by really being bright what do you end up bright gaming is telling me they do porn with celebs with this technology okay I'll be honest I did go yeah got me you got me with J already knew that long long before this conversation went down the Obama or that was me grasping I was like oh yeah I was there another video other than porn oh yeah with Obama but but anyways the fact that these three technologies exist once they converge and come together you're gonna have the ability to both you haven't you had that you had to use that choice of words on the porn one which one what choice words they come together they come together so but the point being is just imagine if you had a Skype call that came from a scammer it was spoofing that they were your wife they looked like your wife they sounded like your wife and now they get you to say a whole bunch of up and then record it and then they publish that and then the people watching the recording you're like did he really say that or is that just another about a step further how about a step further you never thought it was real you you you've my wife and like the the people at our my daughter's school like they kind of know what each other's sound like on the phone like that yeah imagine the whole like collie up at me like hey roar I'm sending blah blah blah to pick up my daughter from school today cuz because there's like a you know if someone unknown comes to school to pick up they've got to be like on a release card got to get together right yeah so imagine that that's really and imagine if they had enough of your information like if there was like a password you know that has to be said or something like that that they could that they could totally do that there's so much bad technology not only makes our life easier and more convenient it also makes it more convenient for people to do bad items so and like bad evidence and stuff like think about it it's like now we gotta wait for Jake Paul to do something stupid but what happens when people just start putting everybody's faces in all kinds of videos but they're so accurate and so believable or even you can't tell if it's faker or even the voice changing on the phone cuz how many times have phone calls and wiretap pin evidence a lot so I mean video video is immiscible in court it's actually like one of the higher levels of evidence why just audio tapes you know yeah like imagine if you robbed a bank and your lawyer comes in and goes yeah actually we made another video with deep fakes that puts a Barack Obama's face on all the people that are robbing the bank and it looks perfectly real so you need to dismiss that they were literally there and cameras are pointing out of it still but it's very scary the future is very scary but at the same time it's kind of exciting that technology is reaching a point where a is combining with both the ability to mimic human expression and human voice yeah pretty soon we're gonna be talking to our phones like it's the L card system on the enterprise I mean we're gonna just be like computer I want a turkey sandwich and it's gonna call down the subway and then it's gonna call an uber each to go pick it up and bring it to you and then it's gonna tell you when it's there and even answer the door and take delivery of the sandwich it's gonna be a very weird future guys oh that's not scary at all okay so what I want a sandwich when we get we're gonna we're gonna go now but I want to update never you guys remember last week we were talking about the processing time of videos and I was complaining that was taking several hours for videos to even process 1080p and up to 24 hours for 4k to process and Jerry had this suggestion sign up for YouTube read and upload and try so I want I want to report that when we ended the stream last week stay online with me and we I sign up for YouTube red and I still see ad what the I just realized that anyway what to figure that out I just realized I still see ads play you probably like who I push the wrong button didn't sign up for it oh I'm Thai I read tube that's different not really so um so it might be new dude I dunno my YouTube red account is active gonna send me emails like here's what today's you know blah blah blah from you Duprey didn't notice any appreciable change though nothing for me so ever but Jerry had another theory that maybe they are trying to bump up smaller channels by processing priority based on sub-county I don't know slow down the big guys speed up the small guys yeah the videos the video that I uploaded last night on the vlog channel was 14 I think was 14 minutes long process 1080p within a minute so there you go and I've uploaded three videos today to YouTube and all of them are still processing 360p and the fundamental difference between your two channels your vlog channel was created much later to Hannah's and lower subscriber count until that video went up yet last night had not seen an upload in over a over a year so what that tells me I mean again there's a lot of other factors in here that it could be but just preliminary looking at it it looks like YouTube is showing clear favoritism to these smaller channels and slowing down the bigger oh you really don't know are you ready for this so we're so on the vlog Channel I'm subscribed to the main channel and on the main channel I'm subscribed to the vlog Channel right and I do that because I can then see what things look like from the subscriber perspective I'm always right cognizant of like what does it look like as a subscriber on the vlog Channel I cannot I have not received a notification of videos going live on my main channel in I don't know how long within minutes of me hitting publish on last night's video my main channel got a notification same car zj's two senses just uploaded a video it's like it explains why the viewership on the main channel is down yeah and last time I upload a video same thing happened the video got the lowest viewership like it was a good video solid video topic that people love that I do it got the what some of the lowest viewership like worst a my talking head videos I did a month ago right and so I went in and I looked at the analytics like where the views are coming from and the majority of them came from social media and everybody said I didn't know you released a video even weeks later people were saying I never showed up in their notification labs just said what about the bitrate was it the same no they were not the same to be fair the vlog channel was an OBS capture of the camera and then I just uploaded that whereas I am uploading at 40 megabit per second YouTube preset and Adobe I can test that I guess by uploading a low bitrate and see what happens so we'll do a try that because that's that's fair that's fair like you need to upload the same exact thing to both channels to see what happens because it isn't but it is possible the codec you're using is incredible what I'll do is I'll take a take a file probably not today because I gotta get my ass in this biker gets darken and stuff but yeah I'll take a file that took forever on the main channel uploaded the same file in the second channel and see what happens do it I'm curious and I'd love to know the results of that because YouTube's doing a lot of weird I want to point out - we didn't do like any car talk today so we'll have to make up for that next week we're not doing a Tech Talk though I'm gonna be in my way back from Vegas doing bags man versus build season 3 but well we will be back May 24th so put that on your calendars guys alright we will see you next time guys you know where to find Jerry probably in bed nubs game probably bad I mean I'll be honest all right here goes the auto roll it thanks for watching Tech Talk 161 Google duplex sounds like hell of a lot better than his shitty voice modulator built into the CM OMG 10x you mixers have a good time guys we all love you well most of you not patrols though you we definitely love parts of you yeah
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