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hey guys what's up J here with Jays two cents bringing you a video that I think it's going to help a lot of you out now with the introduction of project red mist in my last video obviously we're doing some pretty extreme water cooling and I've sort of over the last year and a half become sort of an expert on the topic of water cooling here in the community considering I've been doing it now for well over ten years I've been doing impact since when we were modifying aquarium equipment in our systems to water cooler stuff there was no such thing as frozen CPU or performance pcs or any of that stuff or you know specific water cooling radiators for your computer that stuff didn't exist man we were taking old heater cores from cars and using those as radiators and making all the brass fittings from Home Depot do the work so I decided I'm going to bring you a commentary and talk about the most common misinformation and myths that I see when it comes to water cooling and try and debunk those for you today so I can help you determine whether or not that is going to be the right move for cooling your custom systems now traditionally a commentary means that you guys get to see first-person perspective of some sort of a shooter game typically Call of Duty you guys know how I feel about Call of Duty's we're not going to do that but I thought I'd bring you something unique today and kind of give you an over-the-shoulder perspective of my Nvidia surround set up with some assetto corsa driving simulator because as you can see I got a logitech g27 and you guys may or may not know this but back in the days have some highly modified cars one of them specifically set up for road racing was sponsored by Bach and Hotchkiss and so I really really used to be heavily into the road racing scene in fact I even had my racing license for a while there so I figured it'd be cool to kind of give you guys an over-the-shoulder perspective of me getting used to the new simulator here while we go ahead and talk about the topic at hand and which will be voiced over so you guys we watching me drive while I voice that over so without further ado let's go ahead and talk about common misinformation and misconceptions and myths when it comes to water cooling your computer alright guys so just a real quick note about the simulator here it is a set of course as I mentioned I am going to be running on full manual mode with clutch and shifter all the assist turned off I'm going to have a driving line going because I'm not very familiar with the track here so I just want to know the braking and acceleration points of the track but other than that this is an open track day there's three classes here running in this so we're going to have a whole lot of fun hopefully I don't make a complete ass of myself here on the track even though the single-player I don't want to get asked to you guys especially since I just bragged that I used to do this sort of thing so anyway here we go ok guys let's do this here water cooling your PC things that you hear that just simply aren't true now I get this all the time like all the time I get these messages and it's from people they're repeating things that they've heard from somebody else that they think is true now common misconception number one is that water cooling your computer is dangerous now that is absolutely true in many perspectives but I would say it's only going to be as dangerous as the quality of parts of what you buy now just like anything else you are going to be taking a certain amount of risk when it comes to water cooling your computer I mean if you're having fluid move around your system now your system is not waterproof I mean they do have you know water resistant motherboards asrock has one of those but there's no such thing as a fully waterproof system now what people will often try and do to basically make you believe that you can have a waterproof system is by going with a non conductive fluid now let's go ahead and talk about what a non conductive fluid is technically distilled water in its pure format is a non conductive fluid water in itself is actually very very low in conductivity what is actually making it conductive is the minerals and a lot of the other contaminants do you find in water specifically water that's carried through metal pipes or it's contaminated by you know your faucet and just depending on where it's stored it could be picking up minerals from in the container water is not pure especially when it comes out of the faucet so that's why you have distilled water it's a special process that the water goes through that makes it even more purified than purified water so because of this people will often ask me Jay are the non conductive fluids worth it now here's the way I feel about non conductive fluids non conductive fluids are worth it if you're a first-time builder that you may be afraid of having some sort of a leak in your system at its first boot or in the beginning of when you first start water cooling now the problem with water cooling fluids that claim to be non conductive is that they eventually become conductive for the very same reasons that I explained that tap water becomes conductive by the time it comes out of your faucet because of the fact that it's picking up all kinds of ions and minerals now how can it be picking up ions and minerals or different types of metal in your loop well think about it all of your blocks your radiators the pump it all has metal in it eventually at over time as it's constantly in contact with these metals the metals will break down in a microscopic format that eventually create conductivity and contaminants in these non conductive fluids so if you take the time to build the system right my recommendation to you would - realistically not go with these quote-unquote non-conductive fluids they tend to carry a very hefty price tag they also contend to be somewhat toxic believe it or not I mean they do have non conductive fluids out there that are to have you know much better anti corrosive built into them but they also tend to have some contaminants in there that are not entirely environmentally friendly now I'm not speaking out of like you know Treehugger or you know let's go green type of side of my mouth I'm basically just telling you that if you're gonna potentially have a spill you're gonna leave you or you're going to flush your system you're not going to want to go dumping these fluids down your gutter or down your garbage disposal into your sewer or your septic tank it's just not a very good idea my honest recommendation when it comes to fluids for you would be to really consider distilled water it's cheap it's easy to replace and it's readily available at the grocery store for a buck typically maybe a dollar and a half depending where you live and it's it's easy to use and if you spill it you're not going to hurt anything on your carpet or your desk or your clothes or anything like that now common misconception that you also hear regarding fluid is that going with fluid that have dyes in them are going to gum up and gunk up your system now that's partially true fluids have come a long way in the last few years when it comes to advances in technology when it comes to getting the pigments and the colors that companies want to allow you to customize your system with without having a lot of the gel type dye in there that typically is what falls out of the fluid and gums up in the lowest portion of your loop or inside of your you know tiny micro fin blocks typically your CPU block has the smallest fins in it and it tends to gum up in there if you're going to have a fluid that is known to gum up now some colors are more prone to gumming up than others red is notorious for being the most unfriendly color dye that you could possibly use in your loop for many reasons one typically dye that is red will eventually gum up it's big study after study after study and test after test after test on all of these water cooling forms will show you that red dye is notorious for this red dye is also notorious for being nearly impossible to flush out of here I mean I had red dye and I ended up trying to clean it out of my radiators to the point to where no matter what I did boiling it vinegar using actual radiator flesh over I used gallons and gallons and gallons of this stuff to try and clean out my radiators with red ek dye I could not get the readout what would happen is my fluid would turn a slight purple color because it was purple dye that they used to make their red base so it got to the point where I ended up actually replacing the radiators altogether to get rid of my red dye now common misconception I hear when it comes to temperatures of water cooling is wow you have a lot of radiators your room must not get hot I mean if we have gaming computers you guys know for a long gaming session it can get pretty damn hot inside your bedroom or your gaming room or whatever it is these computers put out a ton of heat especially if you have high-end graphics cards that have a lot of weights watts to displace now the misconception here is that water cooling makes your room less hot I'm here to tell you that is not true in fact in my experience I have found that water cooling makes your room more hot because instead of having all of the heat sitting inside of your case and the only heat that's making its way out of the case is what your exhaust fans can exhaust you have the high efficiency of heat transfer from your water blocks to your radiator exhausting directly into the atmosphere typically your radiators have exhaust fans on them bring in the air straight into the room now because of that you have a much more efficient heat transfer meaning more heat is getting out of your system and into the atmosphere hence the lower temperatures of your CPU and your graphics card so please just think if you're going to boot do a water cooling system to try and make your ambient room temperature lower while you're gaming just know you may have an adverse backwards effect that you're actually expecting you may get the opposite of that where your room technically gets Charter in fact when I put the second 480 in my system here and I added the second 780 my room temperature went up by at least five more degrees over my old system now when gaming because I've got another 400 watts for the graphics card that's being displaced into the atmosphere so the misconception there is that water cooling does not make your room any less hot now another really common misconception that I hear when I see a lot of people who maybe aren't as experienced with water cooling trying to help out other people now I want to go ahead and give kudos to those people trying to help other people but giving people the wrong information is not exactly helping them in fact you're doing them a disservice now what I'm about to say here plenty of people may have actually thought this and may have actually given this advice and I'm just going to tell you right now I'm not looking down on you but I just want to set the record straight increasing your pump speed does not increase your cooling capacity of your system whatsoever let me repeat that increasing your pump speed does not increase the cooling capacity of your system period there is no discussion here there is absolutely no rebooting this this has been proven time and time again the only reason you have higher flow pumps and variable speed pumps is so that one you can control the noise and two you can overcome higher restrictions as you put more components in your system now I ended up doing two graphics cards two radiators and a CPU block so having two pumps or one pump because I do have two pumps in my system does not actually give me any better cooling capacity whatsoever the two pumps in my system is for nothing more than the wow factor it's not increasing the cooling capacity at all and having my pump on setting 1 versus setting 5 on a basic system will have absolutely no difference in templates ever so why do we have variable speed pumps like I said it's to overcome the amount of resistance that inevitably grows in your system as you add more components if you're running a basic CPU block in a single radiator you can get away with just about any pump that you want the difference in pumps is going to be how noisy they are the voltage at which they run at and whether or not they're adjustable I tend to like those features that's why I go that route but I just want to be clear the dual pumps setup in my system does not increase the cooling capacity and probably the most common misconception of all is that the order of the components in your loop matter absolutely not the only thing that matters is that your reservoir is directly before your pump and is placed higher than it so that when you're filling and bleeding your system gravity will feed the pump and prime it for you that is the only component order that matters period you're not going to increase the temperature of your CPU if you have the water going to your graphics cards first in fact if you want to know the truth I have two seven ATS feeding into my CPU before going into another radiator and it makes absolutely no difference on the temperatures so you want to find the most convenient path that you can for your loop to make it nice and easily accessible and without looking like you know intestines and tubes going every which away because you think a certain order matters it doesn't so please hear me when I say that it absolutely doesn't matter what order that your loops are in or that the components of your loops are in just keep these misconceptions in mind listen to things I've had to say and you guys will be just fine if you decide to water cool well yeah the guys second place isn't too bad we're not the cleanest race out there but anyway I'm still getting used to this whole you know force feedback thing it doesn't feel exactly like the real thing anyway guys thanks for watching I hope you've learned something today about water cooling and as always follow me on Twitter if you want to ask about water cooling or I'll just see you in my next video