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all right so who remembers part 1 of this video we should it was just the other day where we were getting crazy artifacting and all kinds of problems with our 2200 G based extremely cheap gaming PC well we have fixed the problem here we're going to talk about that and then we're gonna get into some of the performance metrics of how this computer performed and whether or not I recommend it remember the whole point of these videos is to try out these combos and see if they work and whether or not you should go and buy it but first you should listen to this message from our sponsor you know in hindsight was probably a bad idea to bet the car I told you never bet on red never bet on red didn't just say he's gonna help us out where is he anyway I don't know all I know is he said that we would know when he was close how are we supposed to fit in this I have actually an idea we can do it's a v12 yeah it's a nice car sir that's what you're saying right now now no it can't be quiet dude I got 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work try a different Ram that wasn't it tried putting in a graphics card and it worked fine which was pretty much expected because that's a completely self-contained video processing unit which obviously took the APU out of the equation when we tried a different CPU the problem persisted so what we ended up doing also was thinking ok this is Gabbie software related we tried reinstalling Rison master we used edu to make sure that all of the drivers were uninstalled reinstall it problem persisted to go to AMD's website download their latest driver problem persisted until Phil Phil had an idea of just doing basically a search and trying to find out if anyone else had these similar problems of what we found was 1803 Microsoft Windows 10 has always been this seems to be the root of everyone's problem these days and the latest adrenaline driver were having some sort of a problem but it wasn't always the same games like some people are problem pup G's people have a problem fortnight obviously we were having the problem in csgo and in Friday the 13th and what we found is if you go to AMD's website here we're gonna do this real quick so to go drivers and support and you go over here to manually select your driver as you would expect we download APU processor with graphics we select here our desktop APU processor with graphics and then if we go over here select your product rise and 3 processors with Radeon Vega graphics which is what we've got and we're using Windows 10 64 bit it's the only option requires Windows 10 but you'll see right here the adrenalin Edition 18 point five point one we found we downloaded this and installed it it was downloading technically not the latest version of the driver so so Phil actually found through a search if we did a Google search for q2 2018 adrenaline driver is now available with support for the 2400 G so we went there and that brings up a Twitter post where AMD actually mentions it so then if you go to this download link right here this bit Lee when was this put up this was put up May 18th if we go here and download now the adrenaline Edition q2 20 18 release notes and then download the actual driver that's here and we will link to it in the description that solved our problem but what's funny as we found that when we then installed it and then did an automatic you know search for the latest driver it actually recommended an older driver than the one it was actually trying to install so AMD itself has still not like updated the page I guess to recommend this driver but this driver fixed our problem so I was a long way of saying it was a driver issue but the problem was downloading the latest driver from the list was not bringing us to this one okay so here we are now with our 2,200 ger eight gigabytes of Patriot ddr4 and it is overclocked to 3.75 gigahertz and our memory is running 20 800 megahertz I believe it is and we are going to use an AMD Rison master trying to squeeze out maybe just a little bit more performance the 2200 G is like literally the bare-bones bottom of the bottom entry level way of getting into gaming and the idea here was if you have a limited budget can you build a system that you can build upon without it being like completely obsolete by trying to add things like a GP or whatnot so our temperatures as you can see are running really good rolling sitting in the 25.7 and we are running the stock cooler if we go into game mode as she crashed on me at 1250 which is unfortunate so I'm gonna go ahead and back this down just to like 1200 because that gives us only at 100 megahertz overclock which is probably not going to be very noticeable but the problem is when I apply this it needs to reboot the system and that's sucky it didn't always do that so no way it's a weight but if we look at the driver version even here it just says adrenaline q2 2018 it doesn't actually give you a driver number I think I might show it in actual Verizon master or even Radeon software you can see we are running twenty eight hundred megahertz memory because it's 1,400 times to write DDR double data rate so let's go ahead and start up Friday the 13th video settings again that resolution is very odd we're just gonna leave it it's being dumb we're gonna run here anti-aliasing medium we'll just run the medium preset how's that that'll work works for me confirm we'll try this one out basically I gotta kill people and I get bonus points for doing it with various objectives meaning don't let them see you trap them in a trap push Chad's face in the fire really a wholesome family game so you can see the little cutscene we're only getting 22 fps 1917 okay maybe we'll try low settings cuz that's already pretty bad this Jason looks dumb this is playable fps though oh she duped me should you be like every other woman I've ever chased with an X all right so mid-40s appears to be roughly our average all right so we're in doom if we go to our settings sure we might be seeing 50 FPS up here we're here running 1600 by 900 everything is like off low 100% resolution scale Phil's suggesting we drop that down like 70 but we'll see how this goes everything is low low low trilinear NSA's off so I mean it's playable is probably gonna be subjective at this point FPS is like I said sitting in the 40s the CPU can handle it this is clearly just GPU as being really really pushed hard so I'm going to try an older title now I'm gonna try Middle Earth shadow of Mordor this is a game that was definitely hard to run in its heyday but it's been a few years since this has come out now we are at medium settings at 1600 by 900 native resolution but as you can see in the benchmark track we are again down into the 30s 33 what makes low FPS terrible as the fluctuations same thing with high FPS if you have really high FPS but there's big swings of a fluctuation then that would obviously portray as a bad experience we had an average of thirty six point seven eight a minimum of 25 a max of 50 so we're gonna go ahead and switch that to low and see what happens so we went up to a average of 48 Oh too so yeah we gained about 10 FPS or so across the board a little bit higher a 14 on our max what I would honestly recommend at this point is the the CPU is great it's really not bad at all 400 bucks and you can play something on it if you want to play side-scroller games or like indie games from Steam this would be able to do it all day long without a problem if you're starting to get into modern or even modernistic titles titles that are running on popular engines like unreal or even doom as you saw which is normally pretty lenient with low-end Hardware was still giving us a little bit less than desirable experience with the 2200 G that is overclocked 100 megahertz right now so what happens if you were to just save a little longer go mow some lawns donate blood I guess you would have to sell it if you just gave it away Inc anything for it that's not gonna help your build you get what I'm saying here I'm gonna put in a gtx 960 right now that we were able to find for about 80 bucks to $100 used on Craigslist or other forums like overclock net places like that you could find these GPUs usually all day long and let's see what our performance increase was with the same hardware but just throwing in a GPU which in my opinion would be the next logical upgrade path so this is the msi gtx 960 gaming this was actually my dad's GPU and this was a GPU I highly recommended at the time that it was new it I still recommend it honestly all the way up to 1080p gaming at medium to high settings depending on the titles but that's one of the reasons why when I did this and my rationale and the parts that we chose was why I didn't want to go with a super low end power supply simply because now we can actually run this because we have enough power supply power to go with it that's why we went with that 500 watt power supply from EVGA so now I can toss this in there it's not gonna have any problems being powered by our power supply because we have PCI Express power plugs and now we are gonna get an immediate increase in our gaming performance by simply plugging in this guy so the 960 is installed and the nice thing about having a discrete GPU is the fact that we can over because the APU you can't overclock with MSI Afterburner you have to use AMD risin master or the BIOS and it's super picky but here I just did a simple plus 100 on the GPU core plus 250 on the memory bumped up our fan speed so now we're gonna go ahead and jump back in to Friday the 13th and play the same titles that we just did and we're gonna compare the performance which is obviously get obviously going to be a lot higher because remember 1600 by 900 resolution at 960 can handle at 1080p without a problem but it's just going to decimate 1600 by 900 no problems whatsoever now these are the same exact settings we left off with with the APU and already in the menu you can see we jumped up to a hundred and twenty plus fps it set itself up to high remember we were at low when we were getting the 40-ish FPS now we're at high literally fps a hundred and fifty ish in menu much smoother already a little bit of dip obviously is a lot of particle effects and stuff happening there but clearly a much better experience all right well obviously we proved our point Friday the 13th so let's head over to doom so we're on the Vulkan API still overall quality high and anti so tropic filtering 4x any sitrep any any sub anisotropic and this and so tropic that thing is set to 4x and if you look at our video here you can see here's our resolution we have XFX AAA on which we did not have before yeah look at the FPS already 19 DS it's super smooth there is absolutely no rubber banding as like before where it felt really kind of wobbly and jello II medium settings 100 FPS this is the one that we were only getting 30s mid 30s on the Jassi apu and then we went to low which gave us you know up to like the 42 or 48 average FPS as you can see right now we are getting more than double that I think we proved our point here the 2200 G was able to get us started but I highly recommend adding a GPU even if it's something like an Rx 460 the 2400 G is a significant jump over the 2200 G I have other videos you guys can check out the 2400 G just go to my channel click the magnifying glass type in 2400 G you and plenty of instances where we used it and tried it out it's a significant jump over the 2200 G I just feel like the parts I chose on this probably not the best way to spend your money I feel like you need to add a GPU in fact it might even make more sense if you're going to save up for a GPU just save up that money by a risin 1200 which is a little bit more powerful on the CPU side just a little bit then a 2200 G and then you won't have an APU just sitting there doing nothing when you do add a discrete GPU like this now it doesn't matter what GPU you add even something like an Rx 460 or an old 750ti or something like that in my opinion is going to be a better gaming experience than just relying on the 2200 G because although decent still definitely lacks in terms of the performance I was hoping for it's not a way I would spend my money again I would definitely would add a graphics card to the build if possible also don't go with a 320 board I mentioned that in the comments of the last video and the link of parts go with the B 350 or better better overclocking better build but anyway guys we're gonna go do me a favor if you did an ultra cheap build comment down below with what your build was and what you think the performance level is and how you like it because it helps people who are searching for parts make a better decision also look in the description below you guys will find links to other things like affiliates parts discounts on various items and stuff that we've kind of worked out for you guys and also if you're new around here watch hit that subscribe button we 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