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the competition between Steve and I continues our lm2 cheat has failed us but we have just received a very unofficial very secretive source we modified bios for this card that gives us unlimited power you know what guys I got new merge it's available now Cod me calm /jc sense we got zip up hoodies we got tri-blend we got a new logo I digress since 2012 but the wrist logo you guys been asking for that anyway well guys little bit uh well kinda stuff zip up hoodies beanies polos don't take my word for it cuz obviously I can't do this edie so just look in the description below and you guys will find the link thanks we tested this card on air we set the fan curve to max 100% because normally if you set the fan curve to max it uses a few watts and if you're on the edge of stability 5 watts or 10 watts to the fans could actually reduce your overall stability we actually saw an air this thing pull 420 watts I did some you have 420 Watts guys 420 watts it's max draw while overclocked telling us that we could theoretically and that was that like 65 percent of its power cause what it said so you do the math on that how far this will allow us to go so the question is can a software mod like this allow us to actually forego any sort of shunt modding or any sort of soldering or any of that stuff it's a bit of a band-aid I mean there's still gonna be things in place but the software at least isn't gonna be getting involved and what I alluded to when I said spoiler alert I think I said it in this take I remember we were able to pretty much max what we were getting with our XC ultra with the modified BIOS on chilled water on air on the for the win 3 card now I want to go straight to the kingpin card and/or the Titan I've talked about the fact that the Titan cards I want to use in the gold build and that's still happening I'm just being lazy because I've got to take the CP out of my workstation which is my workstation so until I'm ready to finish that I can't have that system down order of events obviously but I thought well I still would love love to beat Steve score without using Titans and the next logical jump up is going to be the further win 3 car which has a very overbuilt vrm delivery or power delivery very very stable and like I said we saw 20 160 mega Hertz on the core on this guy armed air something we couldn't even come close to achieving on the XE ultras even when we had the air conditioner plumbed up to it so now I'm gonna take my homebrew once again my little homebrew stuff that's why quick disconnects really come in handy we're gonna hook this up or you're gonna chill it as well as our CPU which we are not going to be L into L entering the CPU today now we're doing just CPU test we know how far the cpu will get we're doing GP tests we know if our the CPU will get 5.9 gigahertz and I want to see now how much more Headroom we have on water with this probably won't be a lot but again every bit counts in this competition so let's go ahead and get this thing ready for water that is one beef cooler right there if you don't ask me hey it's not about the cooler well this one check that out every time we do this I feel like we improved the design slightly maybe not so much aesthetically but at least this time we've got the condensation sort of contained in here wrapped up with electrical tape and lots of paper towel so we can avoid drips cuz the fittings anything it's metal that touches the air is where all the condensation is gonna form it has a form on the plastic yeah some does form around the block on the bottom but believe it or not that's so close to the heat source that that condensation isn't really a problem there with the chilled water simply on the backside we never really see any sort of condensation form on the back side so that scratched exactly no we're good all right it's gonna get this over to the test bench and see if we can go any higher than we did on air if we can then we'll get ourselves another one of these cards hopefully if they're available and then we will we'll go for it again in another video so another proof of concept video you know this is how this works you do proof of concept like we did with just the CPU we see how far we can go with that and theoretically say yeah we should be able to win and then lose and then go over here to our GPU and be like well theoretically if this is higher independently with a higher CPU then theoretically we should win but the problem is I know Steve's probably working on lnto or dry ice right now with that 99 80 XC with his Titans which means the moment we win he's gonna win again making all this work for nothing there we go yeah so here's we're going to do that now I'm gonna go ahead and load our five point nine profile but then I'm gonna pull everything back from there so let's do five Oh I mean the nice thing about using an icx card those we can at least see what the different temperatures are on the board ironically our VRMs came down like ten degrees versus when the cooler was on there with fan running and it's overclocked right now but it also loaded our previous settings plus 175 on the core plus 111 80 on the memory so I guess we're gonna see if it passes that test okay so our graphics core is a 78 82 and these are the same settings though upstairs that it was crashing on air no we didn't get that on camera but we were crashing if we went above 1,000 megahertz on the RAM we're at 1180 on here and if we went past 170 on the core we were at 175 right now and now 5 mega hurting currents doesn't happen it's like 12 mega Hertz or 15 mega Hertz increments on this but we're gonna go ahead now and start pushing it and seeing if this card on water with unlimited power limit will allow us to actually get a higher score okay so 79 16 we are getting higher scores and I have really not started pushing the clocks too much so I think I'm gonna push memory before I push core a little bit because it's one of those things where depending on the test sometimes memory really does give you a bigger increase in GPU we've talked about that and I know Stevens talked about that at gamers Nexus before where memory clock can give you a bigger increase sometimes than GPU cores so if you pull the core back but clock speed up on the memory you see bigger gains so we have to sort of whack-a-mole this and kind of figure out one before we go to the other and back and forth same thing with CPU testing when it comes to the CPU overclocks we saw much we got our max CPU scores by getting memory and memory timings tighter and there's still a lot of timings on there we have to what optimizes some pretty bad matches there but we saw bigger gains from doing that then core speed remember we really did lnto the first time we got all the way up to what five point seven before we even matched our five point four on dry ice when the memory was left at like its dock settings so it all has to work as a system 7940 to very minimal gain but stable less at 12:25 of the memory clocks in which 50 and if we look at our temperature the hottest our core got was 16 C but we know the first like state of throttling starts at like 28 C so we've got a lot of headroom vo push this card 439 watts which is like 65 percent of what the power limit will allow us to pull yeah the pump died that could have been wide this it crashed because the GPU got hot and then the CPU shut down which as we're just sitting here like water what's happening in the shutdown which probably thermal shutdown but the pump is turning for sure but it's making that whining sound because it can't move any water yeah Phil found it this wasn't clicking all the way now now let's turn it on and that should come shooting down thank god is before i emptied the loop this is why we have Phil's skills are important we know that if we can match our dry ice scores on water on the CPU that LNT will bring our scores up remember wait to make up a hundred points for Steven and we have from Steven we have to do it before he goes with ln2 or dry ice our only hope at that point is that he pulls a noob mistake and blows his up like I did but that probably won't happen so my second hope is that his hair accidentally dips in the dry ice it breaks off alright so 7932 again on the graphics core we are not improving anymore with extra memory so I'm gonna go back to 1250 now we're gonna push the core up a little bit our limited power of the GPU is pushing the cloud gate father than you can handle so you have to offset it with a zero slider if the slider goes up in both sliders go up the math it's all wrong you can't do that look at this it is passing right now 8,000 on the dot by increasing the CPU to 5.2 so we're just gonna see how high we can get the CPU now just for the hell of it because again remember the whole point of this is testing one card to theoretically see if they can match an or beat the other card at much higher CPU if we can match it with lower C let me know once we go really high in the CPU we've been theoretically we also theoretically thought we were gonna win last time shut up Phil shut up Phil actually that's one more test I can do right now so we determined that obviously increasing the CPU speed right now is in helping us for some reason we're actually seeing a diminishing return right there which we know isn't the case when we use Ln two so something else going on right there I'm not gonna worry about that too much I don't want to test something we know 2010 or 210 crashed with the memory super high I'm gonna drop the memory back down to like not twelve thousand twelve hundred seven 1300 or 1275 I should know well going farther 1150 and I want to see if the core will survive with the memory reduced and if that works and then score goes up and everything is said about leapfrogging it's wrong you know I think you guys have figured out by now in this competition we're just guessing in fact I think one of the extreme overclockers was even like yeah Jay did pretty good for not knowing anything about what he's doing I take that as a compliment I really do can't take that as an insult he's absolutely right well that didn't work yeah twenty to thirty five we can't seem to get stable at this current temperature so the next step is gonna be for us to drop the temperatures even further we're gonna somehow get an L n to pot hooked up to this thing and we are going to let me go forward I think we're gonna go for 2,300 Ted leaves not today that's another video later on I'll give you guys some time to sort of simmer down a bit over this computation assume you guys think we're milking this but you understand so we are learning we are learning through failure and we were educating through learnings of our failures anyway guys I'm gonna go thanks watching today's video but we did learn indeed that one the for the win three card with the modified BIOS that removes the power limit entirely the air cooler never saw any hotter than 54 C when the fans were at 100% when we overclocked it to a 20 145 is what we were seeing on air and that's a hell of an air cooler and then once you add colder temps we were able to push that all the way up to 20 to 20 what now tells us we can go even colder this even get it around 0c under load we could potentially hit 20 50 20 75 who knows but we're experimenting we're taking you guys along for the ride which is the point of these videos thanks for watching and I have to clean this mess up because now we have a dedicated area for this that we we came in on an off day and actually cleaned sort of just didn't turn the camera around we can actually check the just painted 120 barrels yesterday that's the whole point of these videos we're experimenting can you guys along for the ride so hope you just subscribe