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what's up guys James $0.02 here and I'm gonna do a video today I've kind of Li wanted to do for a little while I don't know how well it's gonna go but if you guys have been paying attention to new thermal technologies you guys might have noticed that there is a new thermal pad that has come out designed for CPUs to replace the messy thermal paste that we are all accustomed to now as you guys know there are all kinds of different thermal paste on the market including liquid metal which is technically not a paste at all but there is different like Arctic Silver's there's thermal Grizzly all kinds of stuff and the debate continues forever and endlessly about which one is best well today I'm not going to use the actual thermal pad that people are using I came in with the name of it to be honest but it got me thinking why can't I use a thermal pad that I get with the GPU blocks I mean we use it on RAM and stuff like that but is this actually gonna conduct enough thermal transfer to keep us from overheating our stuff or will it actually insulate in some way and not transfer heat well enough and it's gonna overheat our CPUs which will make me wonder whether or not this is actually working at all so that's we're gonna do today we're gonna check it out with our test bench and see whether or not this whole groom method actually works today's video is sponsored by Nordby pn and it is more important than ever to start protecting your online experience with constant database breaches and the ongoing constant discussion regarding net neutrality protecting yourself is more important than ever an or VPN has over 4300 servers available in 62 countries and pretty much every region around the world including Africa the Middle East Asia the United States I mean you get it but the best part about Nord VPN is they don't keep logs which means you are experiencing a truly 100% anonymous online experience so start taking your online security serious by heading to north VPN comm /jc two cents and save seventy seven percent on a three-year membership by using offer code Jase two cents at checkout so now we can sort of be doing a couple of different methods today of course we need our control this is my test bench 8,700 case sitting on a Z 370 now we are actually running the ek echo therm that comes with the GPU blocks I've been using it on CPUs for a while and we actually had our test running here media datasets inside of OC CT now for 17 minutes to make sure our loop connection equalised now in terms of the cooling capacity of the loop itself that's not going to be as important as a whole to this particular experiment we want to see how it compares to our control which is a 360 read with at 8700 K that has got an all core overclock of 4.7 yeah I know it's a turbo clock but memory usually a one or two cores will ramp to 4.7 we've got all six cores ramping to 4.7 and we are pumping 1.4 2 volts to it that's a lot of volt for this CPU so this test has been running now for 18 minutes it looks like our averages are sitting in the mid to upper 60s going into the 70s momentarily with our Peaks actually reaching 90s and low 90s high 80s remember these are outliers these are these big Peaks that you see like this one right here this is not indicative of your everyday use the standard the regular temperature you're seeing here as it fluctuates this is our temperature that matters this is stressing our system as it's designed to to just punch the CPU hard you're never gonna see these types of temperatures under regular day-to-day use even rendering videos especially playing games and stuff like that we are going to cut a piece of this this is a point five millimeter this is a half millimeter thermal pad that comes with the EK water blocks for GPUs and this is what we're gonna actually use and we're gonna we're gonna cut a piece that covers the bulk of the IHS or the an internal heat spreader and then we are going to test it after all is said and done with no thermal pad and no thermal paste just so you guys can kind of see what happens when there's no transfer material whatsoever so I'm using paper towels normally like coffee filters work pretty good but these paper towels I'm using actually pretty good about not leaving a lot of lint behind as you can see I have not deleted my 8700 K I probably will do that at some point just to fix terrible Intel shortcomings with thermal paste so as you can see it's a pretty good cover it doesn't cover the very very edges but remember the die on this chip is right in the middle right here this is a spreader so you have to actually cover every square millimeter of this but you do want to get obviously the bulk of it so I'm just gonna sort of mark where the edge of it is you can see it made a little indentation I'm going to and then we were going to apply now you want to make sure you clean it with alcohol and stuff the cpu that way this actually sticks to it otherwise it won't stick very well but because I just cleaned it with alcohol this should stick nicely oh yeah it's definitely sticking especially because it's warm too that wasn't centered though did that centered I am really bad at arts and crafts as you can tell so all the thermal pastes does is fill all those microscopic cracks and crevices that are on these surfaces of these materials they look and feel flat to our scale but once you get down to the microscopic levels they look like the Grand Canyon they are not perfectly flat so that's all thermal paste is designed to do the thermal pad whether or not it can do the same thing and not and transfer that heat quick enough that's what we're gonna be checking here so we're gonna start by checking our initial temps in BIOS before we even go to the desktop and we're sitting at 35 C at idle I don't recall what it was before doesn't seem terrible though alright we're gonna start the tests and we'll know right away if we get like an initial like just big-ass spike of some sort so our temperatures right here it's currently sitting at 40 for 45 and this is this is warmer at idle I'm almost positive all right we're gonna start it are you ready Oh big right to thermal throttling did you hear the fans good like a hundred percent so we went one hundred eighty eight eighty four 100 194 eighty-seven try it again 100 Wow well some of the cores are below 100 well that was short okay so now we need to actually make this video worth something we should go to the kitchen and see what we have that we could use as a thermal paste let's go you try pieces piece no that's not a piece of cheese we try ranch dressing you know Nick's like melted popsicle toothpaste it is it kind of makes you wonder then how well these pads thermally conducted all then because we use them on VRMs we use them on memory chips whom use them on all kinds of things but if it can't transfer the heat fast enough and like for instance VRMs get really really hot so I guess the question then begs to differ does it does it really work at all so if you know the answer to wear thermal pads make sense and why they make sense can you please put it in the comments below because I'll be honest I have no idea now this is obviously a lot easier to work with right but I promise we would try it with nothing so we got to do that and I think we'll see pretty much the same result it'll just go until the thermal throttles so I'd like to point out that we are actually idling less with nothing no thermal paste and no pad here's the pad we used right here we're actually idling about what almost 10 C less then when we had the thermal pad on there and we have no paste or anything now as soon as I hit start on this test it's just gonna whoop right - it's gonna woof - his bark which wasn't a stupid we're gonna it's gonna go right to like a hundred watch or it's gonna sit in the damn 60s what the frig or there's 80s fans kicking up there's the 90s how is this do it better than the pad because the pad was insulating this is actually allowing some sort of transfer of heat because the surfaces are touching but remember they're they're still not touching perfectly flat on that microscopic level whereas this was actually creating an insulated layer between the heat spreader and the block so again I go back to my original question how does this help when you put it on things like VRMs and RAM modules I mean it goes all the way back to that eat kit or the the EVGA issue where they didn't put thermal pads on the vrm on part of the original 1084 the wind too but we did see an improvement on temperatures on the VRMs once these were applied so obviously they work but I believe in a very specific circumstance are we even throttling right now let me see we're not even throttling we did hit a hundred C on a couple of them but look we're still sitting upper 90s and t.j.maxx on this is 105 so until one of these hit 105 it won't throttle so no thermal paste is actually working better than he pad our thermal pad whatever insulating pads what we'll call it now I know we've done this before but I'm gonna go ahead and do it now just to show how toothpaste versus thermal pad to see which does better I already know kind of the results gonna be like I said we've done toothpaste back when we did our video about crazy household items being used the thermal paste the peanut butter did the worst no actually the Oreo cookie filling did the worst that day okay I'm apply this with my fingers I don't know if that's gonna actually spread out as good I think this is the part where people start to say Jays done run out of ideas you know I don't hands are the devil's playthings rather I put my hand on my computer than so I forgot that this one has like those whitening crystals so you can actually hear what I push it down listen oh that's like crunchy our toothpaste has been installed whoa we're idling much warmer this is not gonna work okay we're ready to start it's gonna go straight to thermal throttle watch 70's 80's 90's up red lights coming on for cpu right there it's telling me that it's hot the thing is it's hitting 100 and coming back down to the 90s where as a thermal pad we're hit 100 and kind of stay there so as crest white 3d white toothpaste better than thermal pads no because like we're one hundred one hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred ninety eight hundred so here's the bottom line I need to do this video again but I need to actually order the thermal pads that were designed for CPUs I tried but they're out of stock because I think Linus did a video about it and who other people did and then of course everyone bought them up so I will check it out because if it turns out to be good and worth it I will try it on the CPU I'll try it on GPUs especially remember GPUs have more focus heat than a CPU and I would love an alternative to dealing with nasty thermal paste I hate thermal paste it gets everywhere so yeah we're gonna go guys this is this is definitely one of those videos it was just like at the end of the day I'm like this was really one of those ideas that I should have flushed down the toilet and not taken out of the bathroom with me not like the leaf blower that was a good one guys you guys don't know what I'm talking about then you definitely wanna go and check that one out all right guys I'm gonna go thanks for watching if you've got any crazy ideas that you think we should try and make sure you let me know obviously we'll try it we're desperate at this point because we're bored we're bored the summer times it's might be summertime we need things to do alright guys thanks for watching we'll see you in the next one it smells nice though right it smells very minty fresh I was really concentrated