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This PC wouldn’t boot... you’ll never guess why!

2019-04-28
okay all right we're gonna do a video today where our our system you guys saw this we did the case review for the new define s2 vision this is a clean windows install and it is completely borked in that like nothing is working like see little thinking we own stuff you'll never guess what's actually causing this oh look and process microsoft windows is not responding no the problem isn't windows today's video is sponsored by cable mod and their massive clearance sale taking place right now at performance pcs whether you're looking for sleep cable sets for power supplies a o sleeve kits cable extensions or LED lights you can start spicing up your PC at massive discounts to see what's on sale now click the link to the sale page in the description below see if we can't get to go like I said this is I don't want to give away what the problem is yet I mean I'm sorry for the click baby title I really am but this is important I want you guys to watch this because in my seven years of doing this YouTube channel and well I would say thirty years of building computers but I haven't haven't been dealing with these components for thirty years obviously as you can see we can't get anything to come up nothing's working and I'm telling you right now what is causing this is something that it's probably make a lot of you happy watch what's gonna happen right here it's gonna start to load windows or try see how we're not getting a little thinking wheel this is where a lot of people would probably go down the wrong rabbit hole and think you with the problem is I I guarantee someone at this point would bust out their windows installer and be like oh man I got a corrupt windows installed I need to reinstall windows and they would try and reinstall windows and it would fail because in this particular instance what's causing our system to completely brick itself and shit itself at the same time is RGB for the first time you have a legitimate right to say fuck RGB because in this case RGB is fucking us that little hyper X Drive right there with that Tony Stark level of arc reactor brightness the ow holy Shh that's harder I think we've ever seen it all right where is the give me give me give me okay the LEDs that are in this Drive literally draw enough power there are 75 LEDs in here more LEDs than the rest of the system combined that are causing our drive to reach over 70 degrees Celsius this is a SATA Drive we're getting hotter than m dot 2 drives get and if you're not familiar with NAND it has an operating temperature and it's fairly sensitive as it overheats and gets hotter it slows down to the point to where the only way I can keep itself from cooking itself to death is literally throttle itself and slow itself itself down look we're still sitting here it is still trying to get Windows to load because it's probably getting a megabyte a second it is cooking itself to death right now trying to start Windows so I'm gonna turn on my FLIR here if I go ahead and point this at it has to adjust 64 64 on the exterior yeah our drive is harder than the vrn would you you pull you to the light yes I know what that light is also what's generating the heat that's making its way into the drive when I'm gonna do right now in real time and hopefully it'll come back because I'm gonna take this fan and I'm gonna point it this massive ass fan we're gonna point it right at the drive and see if the system will wake back up without a reboot so we first learned about this where we are shooting the b-roll for this build we we couldn't get into the operating system I'm going what the heck man but that's when we started looking over the internet and we found this an attack or a non tech article where they talked about bright light dim performance or something like that's the name of the article and then so this it's definitely worth reading I will try to remember to put the article down below but if you if you just search the internet for anon Tech and Kingston HyperX fury drive LED drive or RGB this is what you'll find there's only one other drive in the market that's even anywhere similar to this and I believe that that is the team group has like a RGB SSD so it's not really a thing yet so this has been sitting on the back of the chassis with the glass on it and stuff we've running tests before starting this video it doesn't matter the glasses on the glass is off it's the same just turning on the LEDs heat up the drive in fact I did a test with the LEDs off with running crystal mark and nine sequential hour nine runs of sequential and random read/write back-to-back-to-back so for like 27 27 read/write tests back to back the temperatures are flat they don't move in fact we have an image right here we could show you of that but we also did was simply let the system sit at idle and no it's not coming back it's completely failed but if I go ahead and restart this because we've cooled the drive down we will get into Windows where we can start showing you in real time kind of what's happening here what I want you to look at this little this little time lapse as I'm kind of talking here if you watch this this sort of a time-lapse here over about like an 8 minute duration all we did was let it sit at the desktop and turn on the LEDs and we filmed it both with the camera pointing at the chart which is an msi afterburner using hardware monitor for our grabbing the smart info off the drive and then we use the thermal camera to kind of see what was happening to the casing of the drive with that chart so we can see interior and exterior temperatures and right around the time we get to about 60 high 50s low 60s we start seeing a grenaded performance once we hit like 63 65 you get what we have here which is a completely dead system simply because of the LEDs and again it's important to note that was idle the system was doing nothing that drive is hotter than our studio lights we have the thermal image to prove it so we have to do right now to get it back is let that fan cool that hard drive down to normal temperatures restart it it'll probably going to startup repair then we'll get to the desktop and we'll show you how bad it really is so once we get into the operating system if it tries to do the updates right now we're screwed I meant to go in and plug the actual RGB tape oh no no updates well with the fan pointing at it we might be okay that's one the other things we're gonna test is like I can re I know someone has already typed this and if it's you watch the damn video before you comment yes we're gonna test what happens with airflow over the drive a realistic amount of airflow no we're not gonna relocate it to inside the chassis because I have enough slack on those cables with the way it's wired up what we're gonna do is we're gonna lay it flat like it would be on the the floor of the motherboard or they the case like divider wall and then we're gonna have a regular case fan just sort of gently blow air over it and see if that's enough to keep it in there go the updates to see if that's enough to keep it in check in terms of temperatures the drive normally draws like one watt like SSDs don't pull any power which is kind of ironic that they've got you know say two power cables everything going to it but what the what the LEDs on in white so we set it to white for RGV for all three of the RGB LEDs to be lit which I know you're thinking about through a DVD it's a white LED yes I remember that outtake filming the thing is if we were in a single LED before we test it with blue it took a lot longer to get to this point but with white it was ridiculously fast how fast it overheated and I thought okay well fine I'll just unplug the RGB harness from it that'll get us by when you unplug the RGB harness it just defaults to red and it's still overheating I'm also legitimately curious as to why they felt 75 LEDs was necessary your Drive is obviously got all of your data on it and if it's like doing crazy stuff because the temperatures it could corrupt your data there's no doubt about it diagnosing your PC turn our didi off the drive is sitting at 47 with that and blowing at it so if I turn it off watch what happens so it's not only at 47 we just turned off the fan at 48 the whole system is already like yeah look at that it's our to see how it's already getting crazy this was our test when we had that that time-lapse going this is that chart and then this is when we turned off the LED so what I need to do right now cuz like it's already at 52 and we're gonna start slowing down here so I got it I gotta open up dragon center oh god no oh no no it's a white square oh no Microsoft Windows is there Oh what happened I need to turn the fan back on yeah we say we turned on the draw at the fan though you see it's all coming back it's completely temperature-dependent now if we go here to mystic light whenever return the LEDs off watch how quickly the system comes back to us so it's at 53 there so all we turned off was the lighting so close that Oh everything's like catching up now from all the clicks I did earlier look we got that running you got edges running this is running file explorer everything's running the drive is extremely temperature dependent so we're going to do now is we're just gonna go ahead and mimic as if this drive we're sitting like in that check that center part of the chassis there and then we're gonna just point a case fan at it in fact we're gonna point even the same case fan and we are gonna see what happens with an actual fan so this is running because it's hooked up to the same controller the exact same speed as the front fans so we've sort of made kind of our own chassis back here with the drive in it to see how that does so we're sitting here at 30 it's still slightly cooling off so all I'm gonna do now is turn the LEDs back on let the temp go to where it's gonna go we'll see where it maxes with a theoretical airflow if we were to put it in the center divider wall of this chassis in the direct airflow alright so as you see the system's already unresponsive this this player goes this accounts for what if we go and look over here you can see we indeed have airflow in my little theoretical chassis right here the drive is still overheating to the point to where the system is already sluggish 57 degrees while sitting here in the desktop doing nothing with airflow over it is certainly not acceptable maybe I will maybe I will I don't think this is gonna work we had to make a plate to sort of touch this to like make a heat spreader I have no intentions of turning into a idiots crazy cooling video all of our stupid idea videos that we do totally prepared us for this man so I just put two fans in here I'm like this I don't think this is gonna work it's a heat pad from the drive to this like metal plate I'm using the trying work as a heat spreader to thermal paste on the pump and that's actually secured really tight the irony is you can't see the RGB anymore on the drive but we have RGB fans so the drive was that is that 24 right now that's already like six to seven lower than it was idling all right lights are on okay now we wait yeah we wait this was the original curve how it just kind of kept going this is our curve now it's starting to flatten off but the problem is it's starting to flat plateau with that water cooler where it's still hot enough to be causing slowdown like he just saw Russ trying to open that file so that I was hoping it was gonna work but we knew it wasn't going to because it's like the SS Dean and themselves plus the thermal pad to a metal plate to the chassis to another thermal pad to a metal plate the thermal paste to pump oh the water to rad to air I mean he just hit 58 all right so here's the bottom line under no circumstances should you buy this SSD the Fury RGB LED is furiously hot unnecessarily even if you put it in direct air flow as we showed earlier so I just felt like I need to make this video as a public service announcement to save your money by any other SSD probably not even the team group RGB one although it may not have the same problem because them cramming 75 LEDs in this tiny little two and a half inch drive space is stupid so this is the first product I've come along that literally warranted me making a video to say this is so bad you should stay away from it like it were the PC plague because as you can see it definitely gives the PC the black to cool this no I'm not Ellen to cooling this drive I've already given you guys my final thoughts there's nothing else to say this this drive is in the end game now it's very bad
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