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what's up guys Jase $0.02 here and welcome to my home office where if you're a long-term viewer of the channel you'd remember I made a lot of my videos here hundreds of videos were made in this room and because the winds kicked up in Southern California and unfortunately they kicked up trees right out of the ground and broke powerlines and it is just a mess here in Southern California and so our studio is without power so I am here at the home studio home office I'm basically making a studio again with a very temporary setup I'm gonna be bringing in my review here of the r-tx 2070 from Nvidia a highly anticipated launch and one that I think most of us are very nervous about because obviously the 2080 and 2080 I launched went without put that much enthusiasm I guess you could say it was a terrible price to performance ratio so let's see how the 2070 stacks up now this sort of recap if you guys were not paying attention to the r-tx launched back in September it was yeah it's it's launched almost a month ago by the time you guys are watching this video it was extremely disappointing I don't know many reviewers who gave it a very positive review because although the graphics card is a huge leap forward in graphics technology or GPU technology obviously we've got the tensor cores in there we got the touring architecture we've got real time ray tracing which by the way at the time making this video we still have no titles that truly take advantage of ray tracing we've got the Final Fantasy 15 demoed ELSS demo which is still not ray tracing it's just using the tour occurring cores for anti-aliasing processing and then we've still got the Star Wars reflections demo which is not a game that is an extremely tailored demo designed to make Raich real time ray tracing look amazing which is not indicative of real-world performance so I don't even show it because it's really just it's it's not indicative of what the actual user experience is gonna be like but the price to performance ratio on 20 80 and 20 ATT I've made it an extremely lackluster launch sure it was faster upwards of 25 30 40 percent depending on the title but at an increased cost of up to 70 percent compared to the 1080 TI where we're used to seeing generational improvements in the 25 to 30 range at the same price unfortunately when you compared the very comparable price of a 2080 to a 1080 TI you saw that it was anywhere from zero to nine percent which was not great so that's where the 2070 comes in a card that I was extremely interested in taking a look at because I wanted to see how video was going to fit this in it's extremely crowded product stack let's look at AMD for a second here because AMD doesn't have a very crowded stack we have the 565 75 80 rrx cards obviously and then we've got Vega 56 and Vega 64 we've got basically five cards that make up the entire product stack if you look at a video on the other hand we have got and not including the GT 1030 because that's not really a gaming card at all that's just a card to give you video for like home theater or just browsing the internet looking at videos not really gonna game on that very well we've got the 1050 1050 10 Ti the 1060 3g the 1066 G we've got the 1070 1070 10 T I at 1080 1080 TI Titan X Pascal Titan V although it's not a gaming card playing people are still gaming on them so that's 10 cards right there 20 80 20 atti and now 20 70 that's 13 cards that you could buy today the other thing that made the RT X 20 80 and 20 80 TI launched extremely disappointing was the nearly impossible or let's just call it impossible MSRP price point to reach remember Nvidia is also in direct sales they have the founders Edition card which is basically $100 premium on top of the MSRP EVGA gigabyte asu's PNY MSI I mean all these companies that are also making a video graphics cards and buying cores from Nvidia are competing against their supplier so it's a very interesting market that we saw starting with Pascal so a Nvidia is charging a hundred or premium on their cards because they are basically you know finding them and keeping the best ones for themselves and slightly overclocking them now with the RT x-series the AI bees are having to compete with that and they are not basically capable of making cards MSRP and still make money they did that they would be out of business before you knew it because there would be no profit there is very little markup whatsoever when it comes to graphics cards and so it's very difficult for them to do that so the twenty seventy we're looking at today is kind of a big deal because it is an MSRP $4.99 offering from EVGA that being the RT x 27 t black edition now one of the ways they kept the cost down on this card is it doesn't have any frills it doesn't have a backplate it doesn't have a triple slot cooler it's got a very basic cooler actually it's a the same style fan as you would find on the XC ultra but it's a dual slot it's a much shorter PCB it has no backplate no RGB it only has one power plug so it's not really built for high end overclocking it's gonna be stuck to the power limits and stuff that are available to it through a single PCI Express eight pin as well as the power being delivered through the PCI Express so it's gonna have a lower power target on there it's not going to overclock very far but for the sake of this test and comparing it to all the cards that we've already benchmarked recently here with these launches everything garden's see in this video is out of the box settings anyway so the 27 T founders Edition card boosts up to 17 hundred and 10 megahertz where the reference cards are advertised as boosting up to sixteen hundred and twenty but actually saw on this card with the temperatures kept really really low with the stock fan curve because again not a lot of heat coming out of this core it is seeing up to eighteen hundred and sixty megahertz and then dropping down into the mid 70s when it's under load and the temperatures have sort of equalized and saturated but keep in mind pretty much all of the r-tx reviews you're seeing though when it comes to temperatures 20 80 and 28 ET I included the tensor cores are pretty much sitting there idle not doing anything and those will generate heat once titles start calling for those courses do something specifically DL SS being the main thing that's going to be asking for the tensor course to do something so as soon as those start becoming more active and in play the temperatures on all these cards are probably going to go up pretty significantly now the EVGA 2070 black was sitting at 62 C max temp in all of my testing that's fire strike fire strike extreme fire strike ultra time spy extreme of course the game titles that we've tested and I found that to be actually pretty good now that is obviously in an open air test bench but the reason why we do that is because we don't want the case to introduce any sort of impact on the cooling when we're testing cooler capability on the graphics card so we allow it an open air environment so we can see what the max efficiency cooling capability is of the card so obviously your cooling is going to vary depending on your case and ambient temperatures in your environment now speaking of testing let's go and take a look at those benchmarks you could see how it stacks up to the ten seventy ten seventy TI Vega 64 and the ten eighty all sitting within a hundred dollars of the price of this card and you'll see that this is actually what we were kind of expecting to see with the twenty eighty and twenty a TI so this is what we were kind of expecting to see what the r-tx launch cards had actually become available at MSRP compete against their past generational brethren smack them around a little bit and do it at the same price point that's what we were expecting to see now a lot of people might look at this and say well then why wouldn't you just run out and buy a GTX 1080 or a GTX 1070 TI and call it a day well that might make a whole lot of sense but the problem is we're still waiting for features that are not available yet these cards are technically trying to future-proof themselves by waiting for features to come online as developers implement them so this is still an investment into the future whether or not that's a sound investment is still waiting to be seen demos are not gonna tell us the big picture that's why I include synthetic benchmarks in my testing as well as actual game titles because sometimes you'll see a certain card may take the lead in synthetics but as soon as you actually put a more real-world test on there or start looking at titles that actually leverage a GPU in different ways than synthetics which are very consistent and very optimized then you'll see that the picture definitely changes same thing can be said over a and B the Vegas 64 does really well in synthetics but then in real-world testing it definitely trades blows very differently than it does in synthetic so that's one of the reasons why we test that now we're gonna be taking a look at 27 custom cards at well as well but I found the MSRP card to be sort of the unicorn which is usually never ever found you rarely find cards ever at MSRP I wanted to see what this one was all about because it's the first one that's gonna be available and it's as you can see it handedly beats the 1080 and it does it with less power less heat less noise and less money but guys tell me what you think of the 2070 this is the card that I was really excited about during the keynote all the way back in August here we are now October 16th we finally have our hands on it and I think if you can get the card close to the $500 price point Dennis the r-tx launch we needed beats the previous generation at the same price point without the features that are supposed to be included even turned on yet so guys sound off in the comments below and tell me what you think about the 2070 and what cards do you want us to take a look at obviously this is GPU season right around the holidays a lot of you're going to be buying graphics card so I want to try and bring in as much information as I possibly can hey guys thanks for watching and as always we'll see you in the next one whether it's here or in the studio I don't know yet it is kind of nice though to be able to when I'm done editing this video just to go to bed not have to drive 20 minutes across town but I get I digress that's besides the point thanks for watching Kaizen as always we'll see you in the next one