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Titan X vs GTX 980Ti vs GTX 980 Classified vs 290X Matrix

2015-06-01
about a month or two ago on tech talk a lot of questions a lot of rumors regarding the suppose of 980ti we're really floating around and people really wanted me to talk about it and I basically said that I didn't think that the 980ti had a place in today's market I was worried that it was going to kill the custom 980 market that we've already got like the classified and the kingpin and the Hall of Fame and the maintenance matrix platinum and the gigabyte g1 you know gaming I was worried that those cards were all going to get displaced because the only place to 980ti really fit what's between the Titan X and the 980 well that's currently where all those cards are in terms of price point so I was pretty convinced that this time around we weren't going to see a an 80 series ti because last series with the 780 Ti was the first time there had ever been an 80 series ti in the Nvidia lineup usually the TI was slated for things like to set the 560 Ti and the 660ti this 650 Ti boost and things like that it had never really made it over to the 80 series models so I said that the 980 TI really didn't have a place and I was pretty hell-bent on standing by that opinion and I said that if one came to market I would eat my words well I've got one right here I have eaten my words for lunch and let me tell you right now they taste salty the built in resin water pump mounting locations improved air flow and massive radiator support make the define s from fractal design the obvious choice for water cooling enthusiasts the S doesn't stand for sexy but it should now the night atti is probably one of the worst kept secrets really of any graphics card launch it was pretty known that it was going to come I mean people were just expecting it but it came a lot closer to the launch of the Titan X then even I was considering I mean with the Titan X launched in March and here we are in what June first technically and Taipei it's June first and that's when it launched it's May 31st here yeah Mather I don't remember what day it is anymore so they launched really close together which is why when people were heckling me asking how I felt by putting Titan X's in my system and at the 980ti was going to come out and faster I didn't think that that would make a whole lot of sense why would NVIDIA obsolete its top to your card two months after launching it well the 92 TI is just that it is basically a shape down type or gold are you okay you okay I don't see any okay I don't see any bumps or bruises obviously these two share a very well close lineage where the Titan really the only thing difference between the Titan X and the 980ti in terms of appearance is the black cooler versus the silver cooler now let's go and talk about the Titan X for a second here the Titan X has 3072 cuda cores it's got seven thousand megahertz effective vram twelve gigabytes of it and the thing is just absolutely a behemoth 384 bit memory bus complete dx12 compatibility I mean RAM chips all over the front and back of the card it was just an absolute monster and the skunkworks benchmarks as you guys saw made it just that so what question was was the 980ti going to be faster well as I already said I didn't think that would make a whole lot of sense so the 980ti has 2,816 cuda cores i've got 256 cuda cores shaved off of the GM 200 GPU which is in both the Titan X and the 980ti now really the only other place you're going to see a difference is the fact that this has six gigabytes of vram on here at 7000 megahertz effective as well as the same 384 bit memory bus so this card really is tailored more towards the mainstream gamer now obviously at a price tag of 649 dollars it's more expensive than the 980 was a heck of a lot cheaper than the Titan 350 dollars cheaper than the Titan and even though I said it's for mainstream gamers even though a lot of people won't be able to afford this card this card is a heck of a lot more affordable than this card you have to at least give me that now considering these things are both using the same GM 200 core and one of them is 256 CUDA cores less when it comes to boosting the 980ti is actually boosting up from one gigahertz base clock to 1200 and 2 megahertz boo clock that's a GPU boost 2.0 went up to 1200 and 2 whereas the Titan X went from the same base 1000 up to 1291 so the Titan X even though has more CUDA cores also boosted higher under GPU boost to 0.0 but you guys know the way I do things I'm not going to just let GPU boost have all the fun I push both these cards to the same respectable yet not max overclock both these cards were able to go farther than the 14 hundred megahertz overclock that I put on them both of these actually we're pretty damn near 1500 but the reason why I did 1400 was because both cards could handle it 1400 is very well within the range that most people buying either of these two cards would be able to achieve so you guys can compare your results if I went for some astronomical fifteen hundred and fifty megahertz overclock and achieved it most of you wouldn't get that high chances are so I went with 1400 if you guys get a similar card or one of these cards you can compare your results and I thought that it was something that was going to be you know much more effective in terms of keeping temperatures from going to high and noise getting too loud on the cards so what we did was we took the top tier AMD r9 290x which in my case that I have available to me is going to be the r9 290x matrix Platinum from Asus we've got the EVGA GTX 980 classified which was still the highest clocked 980 that I had in the office except for the kingpin which I have up there which we'll be doing soon which will probably go higher than this but this was able to achieve fifteen hundred and eighty megahertz so we ran this one as high as we could to compare it towards the 1400 of the other two cards then as I already said the Titan X we compared that at 1400 megahertz as well as the 980ti at 1400 megahertz so there is the ideology here behind the benchmarks let's go ahead and jump into those and then we'll talk about final results with the 980ti transition hey guys before we do the benchmarks let's want to make a quick note especially for the AMD fans out there that are nine to ninety X matrix platinum that I have might actually be faulty you're going to notice that the frames per second and some of these benchmarks are a little bit lower than what some of the other reviewers are showing with their 290 X's and upon reviewing the logs for MSI Afterburner and fraps when I was doing my benchmark show that even though it has a 1050 megahertz turbo clock and I overclocked it to 1075 mega Hertz only a 25 megahertz overclock I was actually getting throttling down into the mid 900 s on the megahertz for the core with the fans running normal and without it overheating not sure why it was throttling like that and it was definitely affecting the scores so I just want to put that out there before we actually do the benchmarks so the r9 290x might be a few percent higher than what you're actually seeing here I'll have to look into it and maybe we'll do a little video about what was wrong with that card but without that or with that said let's go ahead and roll those benchmarks well there you have it 980ti performance is actually very very close with the Titan ex like way too close so CUDA cores aside the six gigabytes versus twelve gigabytes of vram really isn't going to be a performance differential between these two cards at least with current titles at current resolutions even 4k maybe 5k it would have mattered I don't know none of the benchmark Suites that I ran none of the games I ran even in 4k used more than about 4,800 to 5 gigabytes of vram and so maybe in the nearer future with 4k and 5k we would be able to actually start pushing the limits of the six gigabytes but I don't think that were there yet in fact the only way we were even able to get close to the five gigabytes mark was using Crysis 3 which has a much larger resolution textures than most other games but you guys will notice that really across the board the 980ti is within ten percent of performance of the Titan X and sometimes as narrow as four percent behind the Titan X o'clock four o'clock at 1400 megahertz that really that to get that additional four to nine point eight percent that I saw differential between these two cards depending on the benchmark for an additional three hundred and fifty dollars that's a terrible return on investment I mean unless you're kind of like I have to have the top of the line I want the twelve gigabytes of vram I've got money burning a hole in my pocket I own a mansion a Lamborghini and a helicopter and I just want to have the best the twelve gigabytes of vram should not at this current time be a selling point for you to consider the titan x over the 980 TI in fact you can get two 980 t is for only three hundred dollars more than the price of one titan x and you know what two 980 t is would end up doing to a single Titan X I mean that that shouldn't even really be mean in terms of mathematical and financial just maturity you owe it to yourself to get to two 980 t is for 300 more than a single Titan X if your budget will allow for it with that said the 980 itself is also a great option if you don't have a budget for for a six hundred and fifty dollar card you can see the performance is still very very respectable as very few games or titles right now they're going to push anywhere near the limits of a 980ti let alone Titan X so you're going to be able to get great gameplay in fact they're reducing the price down to $4.99 and again with the price of the 980 coming down it probably makes a lot more sense for people to buy a 980 maybe if you were considering getting a 970 and saving up a little bit longer the price of the 970 is not changing that's still going to be sitting right around the 350 dollar mark depending on the board that go with the GM 200 is not just about raw brute force which obviously it's demonstrating even with 256 less cuda cores nearly keeping up with the Titan X the full DirectX 12 support precision has been updated to now fully support DX 12 and the Windows 10 beta or release client whichever you want to call it so we're moving forward towards DX 12 and that's something that I cannot wait to see because as you know 59 60 X is bottlenecking my three tight Nexus which is one of the reasons why the fourth Titan X isn't going in there but we're moving forward NVIDIA has been working on some amazing VR technology that I got to look at in LA a few weeks back I didn't actually feel sick for the first time I was pretty wobbly in fact I think that those those guys were like what we're gonna catch J is going to fall I was kinda like I was drunk that's probably been a lot of 980ti stuff in your inbox here on YouTube you know probably not all that much different from mine and you're going to even see some people reviewing the EVGA ACX 2.0 version of the 980 TI since we know they use the same cooler the PCB layout on the board is identical it's freakin identical side-by-side every little transistor every little diode every little solder it's exactly the same so the a CX 2.0 they made for the Titan X clearly mounts right onto the 980 TI so that was a card they were able to get out right away unfortunately I won't be reviewing one I know with how much I love EVGA and how much they love me I'm not actually reviewing one that's because I'm going to be the only reviewer on YouTube checking out the 980 TI hybrid I nailed an exclusive Booya so for that probably well probably next video honestly guys I hope you've enjoyed today's video it's always fun doing these graphics card reviews it gets a little tedious doing the same benchmarks over and over and over again and I would love to do a lot more games but you know it's it's difficult getting the right games in there and you're never going to please everybody and everybody is always going to want this game benchmark toward benchmarks csgo or benchmark minecraft or benchmark minesweeper or a benchmark my mom I don't know it's like I can't keep everybody happy so these are the benchmarks that I've chosen to stick with and I'm going to start slowly getting all the graphics cards here in the office benchmark through the same Suites and then I'm going to start showing you guys more comparative as GPUs come out yeah I'm finally going to get on board with you know some of the standard ways of doing things so that's all for today on the 980ti coverage I hope you guys have enjoyed today's video if you're new around here and you've never done so go ahead and click on that subscribe button it won't hurt much if you've enjoyed the video go ahead and click the like button if you just hate the video or you hate me or you hate it video or whatever click the dislike button because believe it or not it actually helps in fact once you even head on 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