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hey what's up guys Jays $0.02 here bringing you another video about PC building and this time I'm talking directly to you the guy in the budget the guy who's got very little money to spend and you need to get as much performance as you can out of your system without going into debt or selling plasma or selling your body on the corner now if you recall quite a while back over a year ago I did a video about memory speed and how it affects gaming on PC and of course that was directed towards somebody who had a CPU and a GPU not running an APU so today we're going to be taking a look at how memory speeds directly affect APU performance on AMD's Kaveri platform now speaking about Kaveri let's go ahead and talk about the specs there in this system behind me if you recall I built this thing on live stream on my weekly podcast Tech Talk with J students and barnacles every single Thursday at 6 p.m. there abouts it's usually more like 6:05 sometimes 6:10 anyway it's every Thursday at 6 o'clock ish Pacific Standard Time or Daylight Time whatever you guys have to do the math I'm sorry I can't help you determine when it's on for you the world is turning after all and I can't do anything about that can't stop that I've tried wasn't pretty so anyway enough about that the system I'm using is an AMD a10 78 50 K Kaveri apu in an msi a a Dax AC mini ITX motherboard so this isn't even like the most ideal motherboard I could be using for this test but it's kind of like a worst-case scenario as far as I'm concerned has very little overclocking potential on this motherboard so your results were more than likely be much better than mine I am running 16 gigabytes of 20 400 megahertz r9 gaming Radeon gaming memory it's actually an AMD branded memory with an AMD profile in there it's a very very aggressive Ram it's not entirely too cheap but then again we're going to be taking a look specifically at rhe speeds and not timings and things so we're going to see how speed affects overall gaming performance what that said guys I'm also going to be benchmarking this today in battlefield now the reason why I'm using battlefield for not some of the other games that are out is one battlefield 4 is very intensive still in the sense that the frostbite 3 engine is just kind of not really Hardware friendly in a lot of cases so I wanted to kind of throw as much at this apu as i possibly could rather than going with something that's a lot less apu intensive or graphics intensive as something like c4 you know something along those lines so that's why we're using battlefield 4 if you're using playing other games that are not as intensive your results are also going to be a heck of a lot better now in terms of my overclocks and stuff on this i'm only running this at 4.3 gigahertz up from 3.7 so we're talking a 600 megahertz overclock which isn't massive but it's also no slouch either part of the problem is the farther you overclock the CPU in an APU the lesser of an overclock you can get in your GPU now when it comes to GPU I am running the internal GPU at 960 megahertz I couldn't quite get that 1026 that 1026 megahertz to be stable even at stock speeds and just bumping up the GPU it wouldn't do over one gigahertz so unfortunately I can't see how well 1 gigahertz will actually affect the performance but scaling according to AMD is really really good as well now when it comes to ram the first test we're going to be doing on this is 1600 megahertz because 1333 I don't think anyone should really be picking up 1333 dim sticks anymore I mean it's so old 1600 or plus or go home bro I mean seriously Gaiden ran bro now with all that out of the way let's go ahead and hop in the test range here in battlefield 4 I'm not doing multiplayer for this test because I wanted a static controlled environment that we could realistically see what the changes are without going to different servers that are going to have all kinds of different variables that I can't control and those servers as well so with that said let's turn around get it some battlefield 4 and see exactly how this thing performs ok so here we are inside the test range here for Battlefield 4 now we want to monitor the FPS obviously so we're going to type we're gonna push the tilt which is the button right next to number one we're going to type perfect overlay draw dots draw FPS space one and now you can see whether FPS up there and we're sitting at 32 frames per second in the menu okay now for video settings I have pretty much everything on medium with all anti-aliasing turned off it's a custom setting it's all medium except for the anti-aliasing turned off and I have no motion blur running but as you can see right here I do have the mantle API currently loaded so that is the way that we are doing things here in the test bench or the test thing so we'll just go ahead and kind of start off here in the helicopter you can see we're getting what 35 frames per second with some dips down into the 20s some stutters but it's actually not too bad it's actually fairly smooth I'll just come over here and I'll tack this guy make some explosions then I'm gonna come over here and I'm gonna do a u-turn in my little chopper chopper we're going to attack that tank once again with a surface-to-air to surface missile we're going to blow them up alright so we see we dip down into the mid 20s but we're averaging right around 35 to 30 frames per second and overall though it's smooth I mean that's the thing it's still fairly consistent you can see up there it's just fluctuating 5 fps at the most there's not there's nothing really to complain about it I could play with this that's the thing I could play with these settings alright 1600 memory there we got that now tested we're going to go ahead and do the same little loop I just did with the 1866 and see if we got any improvements ok so now we're back in the test range here and you can see by bumping it up from 1600 to 1866 our averages have jumped from the mid 30s to the low 40s just by bumping it up what 266 megahertz on the RAM and this Ram is capable all the way up to 2400 megahertz so it's going to our little loop again come over here we'll tack the tank put some bullets into him come over here and do our little loop you can see we're chilling here still in the mid mid 40s on average now high 30s mid 40s blow this guy up and then we'll come over here and we'll do we'll do some trick flying we okay so I mean already we're going up to high 30s low 40s so instead of just doing now 2100 I'm going to jump straight to 2400 rpm rpm this is an engine now apparently it is kind of an engine technically the API engine anyway we're to go ahead and jump straight into twenty four hundred megahertz and see exactly what we're getting here in battlefield 4 test bench test rig this thing that whatever okay so here we are back in the test range now and as you can see we're getting it's kind of bouncing around a little bit but mid 40s low 40s high 30s every now and then we're going to hop I'll show you here that the settings are still all the same I'll medium it's all exactly the same as it was before we'll go ahead and hop in our little bird here and do our same little little looping run we were doing we'll go ahead and kill this infidel tank here some rounds in it come over here and do our little loop it's all 27 for a second there oh there's a 51 that was cool look turn too far go ahead and make an explosion and you can see we're sitting here pretty much in the mid mid 40s to upper 40s oh there's a 50 pretty much because I got out over the or the water there that's what I mean you have to admit that the performance of an APU like Kaveri is is it's not bad it's really not okay so why are we doing all this today well it's just to show you guys that without a graphics card I am playing a game like Battlefield 4 near free fresh rate of the monitor I mean mid-40s this this is awesome right here now I was expecting maybe a little bit more out of the twenty four hundred megahertz Ram then then we're getting here you can see there was a little bit of diminishing returns 2100 was actually about the same but this this is this is absolutely phenomenal in terms of the fact that we're we don't have any graphics card and we are playing battlefield 4 at playable play rates this is this is cool I mean when I did my Kaveri video last year I only had 1600 megahertz Ram so I didn't get to take full advantage of it but this this is absolutely phenomenal in terms of how playable it is now there's one more thing I want to show you here hopefully the video can actually pick up how smooth this actually is considering its its lesser than the frame or the fresh refresh rate of the monitor but now it got me to thinking most people who are going to be building on an extreme budget like this are more than likely going to have extreme budgets on monitors and displays and things like that in fact I know some people coconut monkey we're still playing on a 720p monitor so I got to thinking if you're at an extreme budget you have no graphics card you only have three four hundred dollars to spend on an entire system I mean this this chipper here is available for what about a hundred and seventy dollars and it gives you a CPU of quad-core CPU as well as an APU or GPU internally that can play a game like this at sustainable Play rates what happens if you do it on a lesser resolution JTP like I'm doing here and when I did that I needless to say I nearly a brick because of how well it actually performed so we're go ahead and stick this at 720p right here now it's going to kind of look like poop on a 1080p native resolution monitor but at 720p it looks it looks like a 1080p when it's a native resolution but look blue the frame rates we're talking 80s and now this is just as smooth as playing on any actual gaming PC you know PC that's that's built specifically for gaming this is this is awesome I mean look at this we are sitting up in the 60s like pretty much all times here all right so let's kind of let the helicopter fall out of the sky here now what's the point of this if you were on an extreme budget kaveri apu coupled with some fast ram without a GPU is by far the most cost-effective way to start getting into PC gaming I hide the recommend commit why is it still flying I thought did we crash anyway I highly highly recommend kaveri a 1078 50k I don't have an 8 8 or an 8 6 so I can't really attest to those but I can tell you that the 8 1078 50k right here with some 20 400 megahertz ram is one hell of a shocker when it comes to playing games so if I loaded up something like titanfall this thing would be sitting at 60 frames per second with no problem because titanfall is so undemanding so there you go guys Jase 2 cents here bringing you a video about very memory speeds ap use and I'm telling you right now if you were on a strict budget this needs to be on your short list so guys let me get the heck on out of here hope you guys a follow on Twitter I enjoy interacting with you guys and Facebook if you're not into the Twitter and an Instagram and all that stuff I like to just kind of do some silly things but whatever the case may be guys I will see you in the next one and thanks hanging out today check it out kaveri apu dan this thing is pretty cool Graham you have to overclock the CPU and the bus speeds of my process right now just happened to be making for some really unconventional RAM speeds but this video is going to give you an idea of what to expect now rather than use a live game