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so I told you guys wasn't losing the whole PC backdrop I have a few of them actually finally get to have all those pcs I've been building over the years actually do something what's up guys Jase $0.02 here and you might have seen my 1800 X build featuring this guy right here you can watch that in this little card that's going to pop out work I put together this custom rigid tubing bills with my dual Titan X Maxwell cards turned out really really good and obviously when I moved into the studio here I planned on building brand new systems for this place and I'm still going to do that but I figured a lot of Czech youtubers myself included it done a fantastic job at talking about how good Rison is and most of us have showed some benchmark numbers in gaming but very few people actually put their money where their mouth is and have decided to use Verizon for their daily workflows to truly experience it and get literally the most hands-on experience that you possibly can it's easy for us to talk about how good it is for content creators but it's another thing to actually turn it into your content creator workhorse and then you can get a real good feel of how it really is so what I'm going to do for the next 30 days is I'm going to use only this 1800 X system for making the videos that you guys are watching now in fact by the time you watch this video it will have already been rendered on this system now to get this experiment kind of started I want to I'll be doing some periodical check-ins as well I'm going to give you some live demo right now what editing is like on this rig but I'm also going to take my 59 60 X test bench over here which has 32 gigabytes of Dominator Dominator Platinum from course there's got to 1080 s on there an X 99 quad channel I mean you name it it's a pretty high-end system including a fully custom 360 loop on there but I figured we'll start this experiment by taking the same work project that you guys saw on Friday the whole vlog of putting together the desks and things I'm going to render both of them simultaneously on both these machines now they are not perfect copies of the OS they OS on the test bench has got you know it's stuff on there and this OS is a fresh install and I did that so that's one thing to mention but I'm going to just kind of do a just dry run to see how right off the bat they actually compare to each other the nice thing is though both of these operating systems are pretty bare the only thing that's on the work bench over here is premiere and then some games I do my benchmarks on and the same thing going forward the system behind me a brand new fresh install with some of the benchmark games you guys saw in the 1800 x review as well as premiere so they're very they're very bare-bones there's not a lot of billet where anything on there actually but the reason why I'm using the 59 60 X and not the 1600 K for this test is they are pretty much the same CPU one is Ivy bridge-e one is broad well II they're very minor differences I do have two 1600 KS that we'll be using to build additional systems for the suite here but this one's already put together they're about the same thing so I'm gonna let them go now something else I kind of troubled myself with trying to figure out how I want to handle is overclocking you guys know the 1800 X is not the overclocking monster that we were hoping it was most people are only getting 3.9 out of them some people are getting 4.0 and very people are getting 4.1 that's only a couple hundred megahertz difference between the two and it's only about three hundred megahertz overclock from base so yeah not too sure how I want to handle that because my 59 60 X is stable all the way up to 4.5 and obviously having a 500 megahertz advantage on that chip would probably push it into the lead but then again it's another selling point to write overclocking ability stability that's something you guys should should consider so what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to down clock the 59 60 X to 4.2 actually I've got a better idea I'll look clock both of them at 4.0 and then because that's as far as my 1800 can go and then I will clock my 59 60 X to pork 4.5 and then we'll see how much of an improvement that actually was so anyway let's go ahead and start taking a look at what it's like working in premiere with the 1800 X so here's a timeline from Friday's vlog in fact it's very very basic it's just dropping drag of the mp4 files directly off my Sony AX 33 but even even though this has no adjustment layers or crazy transitions or color correcting usually if you did any sort of timeline scrubbing or moving around the timeline on a system that's just slow or sluggish then it tends to be a pretty bad experience where you would click something on the timeline and then this would the preview screen would take time to catch up but even scrubbing is really fast we're playing everything back at full resolution it's not smoking anymore idle is move this can be real time it's fizzy it's like it's like you even though the light bulbs to the mr16 LED it's kind of fun though so what if we add some sort of adjustment layer on there like let's do like a two strip on there something that's kind of crazy like some sort of crazy light will do something very dramatic like that that's the alexa default logs c to rec 709 obvious it's a very contrast II Lutz and where's we got the desk but you can see it has no problem moving around there do you have this company at this is a CSS look under go full time Nick end of next month ish well so yeah obviously moving around the timeline is pretty painless that's I mean when it comes to rendering you can click render and walk away and do something else if it takes a while but the working within the timeline if that's laggy and jumpy and it's just terrible then you just sit there and think my god I hate editing because it can't keep up with what I'm trying to do I use a lot of shortcuts and I tend to move around the timeline a lot and very quickly yeah the windows but it's have no problem even playing it back at full resolution this is actually a 1080p project though that I upscale to 4k in my render so that'll be adding some rendering time as well so the next thing to do here is going to be the actual render test where I compare it to the 59 60 I all right so here's the Rison system you can see right here we're using the YouTube 2160p or 4k preset it's a 40 megabit per second can be BR it's variable bitrate one-pass this is actually how I do all my videos if you want to the truth and then we're not using any maximum render quality we're not using previews or anything like that and it's become over here to the Intel system you can see it is exactly the same settings here 2160p get the exact same project here with the exact same two strip adjustment layer on there and we've got all the same settings selected so what I've got to do now is I've got to try and hit enter at the exact same time on both of these and then we are going to run the stop three two one go and start on the stopwatch all right so immediately this one says 26 minutes 25 they're kind of balancing out it kind of goes up and down when it first starts they both didn't do that so that one says 26 Fish minutes over here on the Intel showing 23 minutes and they are clocked identical let's keep that in mind anyway we're just going to let these go we'll see which one finishes first this one seems to be about three minutes slower at the moment but we'll just let them go and see what happened oh that's not good well there's that here we go round two 59 60 X I was my bad actually when I said the multiplier 240 I had already reset the defaults on this before I moved it and I forgot to put the voltage up so we're trying to run 4.0 at stock bolts that's not going to work so there we go again test render 2160p 4k for YouTube preset 40 megabit we're ready to export so here we go three two one render and they're going okay so this one's showing 24 minutes 32 seconds but remember like I said in the first attempt it's going to kind of bounce around a little bit they're just Intel showing about 24 minutes to render and just like before this one showing approximately 26 minutes to render so what I'm gonna do is I'm just going to let it go and I'll show you which one finishes first and what we're concerned with here is the gap between the two right well so far they're maintaining about a three minute gap between the two of them that's pretty consistently about three minutes see it's still showing 21 minutes 42 seconds to go and this one showing nineteen twelve just hit 90 minutes since I know it's going to come up I'm also going to show the GPU usage right here obviously both of the Titan X's are being used in this system here but these are tight necks maxwell cards which are actually very comparable to the 1080 this is not the TI this is just a regular 1080 and you can see over here on the usage it's very very comparable although it seems to be a little more inconsistent here on the Intel system 33% maxing out on GPU 2 and 26% maxing out on GPU 1 whereas over here in the AMD system you can see right here they are utilizing it pretty damn consistent 37 and 37 yeah so I just wanted to show that that yes indeed the GPUs are doing a little bit of something so we got 13 minutes and 16 seconds left to go in the AMD system and over here we've got 10 minutes and 25 seconds left to go in the Intel system so what's interesting about that is the AMD system actually close the gap slightly I mean it's still about just under three minutes apart now that would just hit 13 minutes and this one's at 10 minutes 12 seconds to go so yes this one had fallen behind about as much as four minutes and now it's closed it in to just under three minutes it's getting good this graph line on the bottom right here this is CPU usage so it's sitting as you can see it tends to hover in the upper 70s to low 80s sometimes it dips sometimes it goes up but obviously it's fluctuating around pretty similar story over here on the Intel system splotching around between the 70s and 80s all right the Intel system is finishing up it's got a couple seconds left right here and it usually takes a few seconds once it's done for its kind of pop up and say it's done see I don't consider it done until that little thing is finished that makes sense the AMD system if you're wondering has got 2 minutes and 30 seconds left over there so waiting for this say it's done and that's where the timer is so far the timer is sitting at 25 28 I'm still waiting for it to finish so you can see the timer when it said 23 up there we go now the AMD Rig is still showing one minute and 40 seconds left and you can see down here it actually took 25 minutes and 35 seconds for the Intel rig to complete and now what we're measuring here on lap 2 technically is the time difference between Intel the Intel system and the AMD system ok the AMD rig has just finished and just like before I'm not going to County has done until the screen a little window pops off and so far you can see the difference here is about two minutes we're crossing the 2-minute mark right now you can see my reflection so stuff internet so there we go 2805 so the difference between the two here was 2 minutes and 30 seconds as you can see between the Intel system and the Verizon system so what I did now with the Intel system was I went ahead and overclocked it to 4.5 gigahertz since I know that that's what my 59 60 X was capable of all the same settings as before I'm just kind of curious as to what the difference in the initial speed is going to be I see it already well as you can see it didn't really change much 21 minutes so it really came down I don't know min and a half-ish 4 5 an extra 500 megahertz for about a minute and a half now that's actually the first direct comparison I've actually done with any of my workflow stuff with Rison and I think now seeing that 2 minutes and 30 seconds difference between a thousand-dollar CPU and a $500 CPU is obviously worth it I mean that's less than 10% where it's more like 8 percent of a difference between the performance of these two CPUs for 60% additional costs for Intel it's really becoming hard to justify that now the reason I'm even going to be building the 1600 case systems is because I already have the parts but we're going to be obviously building some future Rises and systems too especially the rise in 5 being out and F's I got the 1700 X to 1700 system there's a lot to be done and it's an exciting time for pcs once again now I hope this answers at least some of the preliminary questions people have about how Rison performs for content creators I think that's been the thing a lot of people have been saying it's for content creators for content creators but not many people have actually shown a direct comparison between the two now obviously something like a 69 50 X like I'm using and skunkworks just obliterates both of these CPUs but at 1700 dollars and up it's a pretty poor bargain I think that goes without saying now obviously this test isn't is directly comparable apples to apples as I would have liked ideally I would had to tight next Maxwell cards on the test bench but I don't have those on air this one's on air one's on water so that's why have to 1080 s in there but in terms of direct comparison the Rison system probably had a little bit of an edge when it comes to GPU performance because there's more CUDA cores in the Titan X Maxwell than there is in the GT X 1080 but the 1080 has a speed benefit with a higher base clock than the Titans do but the clock performance is a little bit less important as just the CUDA performance overall when it comes to premiere that's a whole different subject though but I will be using Verizon specifically for all of my workflow with bringing you guys videos for the next 30 days so that will give me a real good experience as to what it's like now I'm hoping with BIOS improvements going forward we might be able to see a little bit better overclocking I'm also hoping for as the roof main popping sound that's not scary but anyway I hope that answers some of your preliminary questions about how actually compares to the eight core 16 thread Intel CPUs for content creators now live streaming is something else I'm going to be doing in these next 30 days because I plan on doing some games and stuff while live streaming so that will give me a pretty good indication of what it's like to game render and stream on the same system when it comes to the 1800 X so yeah I'm looking I'm not looking forward to that for a long time so I've done any gaming stream because my internet at home sucks but obviously here at the office it is a whole lot better with that fiber okay I'm going to go now if you guys have got something specific you kind of want me to play with with Rison over the next 30 days that doesn't include like Linux distros or VMs or virtual machines because I don't really do any of that I have no reason to do any of that with my workflow but there's something specific in terms of like content creator wise that you're interested in let me know down in the comments or better yet head on over to twitter at JS two cents and give me some direction on what you guys want me to do moving forward with the rise end stuff anyway guys thanks for watching and I will see you in the next one