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what's up guys Jase $0.02 here and when I was at LTX 2018 a fan came up to me and handed me these graphics cards and said hey you want to make a video about trying to fix these and I was like what's wrong with them and basically he was like they're those Chinese knockoff brands and I was like oh okay well challenge accepted and I feel like a jerk I forgot your name I want to say Craig but I don't think that's right but you know who you are so anyway we're gonna try out both these cards and see if we can't make them actually work I fully expect this to be a failure but yeah anyway good content hopefully nonetheless this card literally literally looks like it has rust on it shopping for a case from when you build what do you looking for I want something designed for water cooling fractal design to find us all the way check it out plenty of airflow plenty of open interior for water cooling radiator support it even has mounts for your reservoirs I don't have enough room for my hard drives okay fractal design r5 look at all those hard drive cages and you can fit your radiators and water cooling in here no I got a lot of hard drives but I also have an e ATX motherboard okay I'm gonna try something here okay bear with me you might wanna stand clear I never actually tried this before yeah it worth fractal design to find r6 you can fit all your radiators a crap-ton of hard drives and if it's a ATX did this is perfect nailed it okay so both these cards are fairly old generations this one's actually labeled geforce gtx 500 series high-speed gd-r gd-r five memory with the arrow pointing to I guess where the memory would be like in their Fermi 2.0 GPU inside yeah GPUs usually go inside the card but check this out this is actually a galaxy card but it's got this flip down fan so that you could actually clean the heatsink so this isn't actually really a Chinese knockoff but it definitely has a used secondhand who knows what it's been through card but this is galaxy before they changed our name to Galax this card here he said basically it will run for about 30 seconds and then shut off and I just completely die no signal anymore so I'm expecting this to probably be cooler related this one is completely unidentifiable this this is straight-up a knockoff fake Nvidia card I mean look even the stickers are crooked this actually looks like those Arctic fans likely because you could actually buy aftermarket Arctic coolers that's what this looks like the PCB is like completely warped so here's the thing with this card he says it works perfectly fine if you just let the basic VGA driver do its thing like if windows detects it and installs a VGA driver then it's fine but as soon as you install any sort of Nvidia driver then the card just completely stops working so I need to see if I can't try and maybe gpu-z to see if this card has any sort of identification but this is going to be the hard one I think so we're gonna start with what I think's easy and that being the 550 ti now before I start tearing into it I obviously need to kind of verify the the issues so I mean I I halfway expect this to just suddenly work fine which always seems to be the case right you have a problem with your car you take it to the mechanic it doesn't do it for the mechanic but the second you drive away the problem comes back I kind of expect that to be the case here I mean he did say that this card worked for about 30 seconds I'm gonna turn this off I'm gonna see if the other card will work but if this one doesn't work then I'll plug in another graphics card wipe the driver entirely and try from there but I really don't think I'm gonna get either of these cards to work oh my god listen to that it sounds like a lawnmower oh holy crap that is so bad oh we have a signal though so let me stop you right there because if you look closely Phil noticed while editing this video that it popped up on the screen momentarily and identifies as a GTX 650 Ti keep that in mind because I can promise you this is not a 650 Ti and it will all sort of make sense later but yeah back to the show it's actually booting okay so obviously the driver didn't like fully apply which is why we're seeing this crazy a scaling but that's good as long as it doesn't try to reinstall its own driver right now I'm fine with that which it shouldn't because we are not hooked up to the Internet I want to see if I do have a GPU Z on here derp and on GPU Z on here crap so I guess I'm gonna have to plug in the internet so GPU Z is a very important tool that I use that anyone that does anything with graphics card testing and stuff should download GPU Z because it will tell you everything it'll tell you BIOS versioning it will tell you it will identify the core if it actually can be identified and that is what we want so because I mean oh it just tried to install the driver on its own which I thought might happen once we plug in the so it's doing exactly what he said it would as soon as the seasoned Nvidia driver black screen so the way I'm getting rid of the display driver and just trying to get everything working from scratch which is by the way the very first line of repair I always tell people to do when they are dealing with graphics issues is completely wipe all traces of the driver and start from scratch remember when you install nvidia drivers and even if you click clean install there's various things that will overwrite there's some files that leaves in place and just writes on of the CDU or display driver uninstaller will remove every trace of the driver and give you a clean start so that's one of the things we're gonna do right now I want to get to the point to where we're just with the basic VGA driver so that we can see what's happening is what I think might be happening with this graphics card is I think it might be lying as to what it is which means that the driver is installing because windows are Nvidia is doing its driver check and it's like oh yeah this I this hardware is identified as the yada yada and so we're gonna go ahead and install it and then it doesn't work because the driver is not driving it properly because it thinks it's one thing and it's actually another so display driver uninstaller is pretty simple download it update it because it will check for updates it recommends that you do this in safe mode we're doing it in the regular desktop I just do the clean and restart option it's gonna create a restore point and then it's gonna remove the driver and reboot and then when it reboots it is going to go right into the standard VGA mode I'm also gonna uninstall or remove our network cable that way we do not deal with it auto installing again because the next thing we're gonna try and do here is actually disable the auto driver install function built into Windows alright so if you want to stop Windows from or from installing drivers on its own you can just basically go into the search type in advanced system settings or is it view advanced system settings right there go to the hardware tab go down here to device installation settings and then switch that from yes recommended to know your device might not work as expected now I wouldn't leave this on by default all the time because this means when you plug in things like keyboard and mice and all that if it does have to do some sort of driver initialization or basic functionality for input/output joystick game devices it may not work so this is just for temporarily but if you for some reason they're working on it and you want it to stop installing the driver on you like we just dealt with with this guy then that is what you want to change let's see if gpu-z can actually detect it now okay so look it up the device ID we've definitely got some clues here because we were seeing some conflicting information now here's the thing it's at NDE which means in video 0 6 to 6 that's basically the device ID when we look that up we actually come back with a G th p GT 1030 768 megabyte and then the BIOS information right 10 de 6 to 6 which is exactly what our idea is the problem here is that it states that this is AG ddr4 with a 256-bit memory bus which does not correlate with the 1030 that correlates with the 9600 at least a lot more closely although that's a gddr3 so what we are suspecting is happening here we have a GT 1030 with possibly a 9600 BIOS installed what we can't figure out is why it worked momentarily okay so we decided to go ahead and look up the drivers for the GT 10 ok keep seeing 1030 the GT 130 and what we found out was they actually stopped driver support in 2000 and something or another 16 yeah cuz 3/4 to dot whatever is or 3 3 4 to 0 1 is the last driver that supported this card so if it tried to load our three 98.1 one onto this card it it obviously wouldn't have worked so we just installed the driver for this card and then what we actually experienced was windows identified it immediately and was like hey new display driver found a new display device found we're like oh that's cool so what we got to do now is I'm just gonna restart I'm gonna leave it in the the slot that it's in I'm still gonna run off the eye GPU and I want to see if gpu-z will actually identify the card it's all identified now NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 but now it says gddr3 but it says 384 bit I don't think that's right and we're all the gt1 30s showing 760 megabytes and this says we have two gigs heaven time I'm not gonna run 4k 8 8x MSAA though that's probably asking for a bit of a you want to run 4k 8 X fine we will try 4k 8 X whoa [Laughter] it's one though oh hey simply tell me this is still a less than playable experience I can't even get the mouse to show up so although we got it to work by simply just installing the proper driver it's still a counterfeit card because it's got like a mix of 9600 GT and GT 130 specs kind of mixed together because as you can see here 16 ROPS and 64 TM use here in gpu-z but we're only seeing 48 CUDA cores on the actual specs this is expecting to see 768 megabytes of standard memory config this is saying it has two gigabytes of gddr3 this is expecting to see G ddr2 and 192 bit bus where this is showing 384 so yeah at this point we pretty much figured out that it was either a 9600 GT or a GT 130 and we pretty much are assuming the reason why that it wasn't working is because it's actually identifying as a GTX 650 Ti which it's not and that's why none the drivers were working because the drivers that support that card are not actually supporting the 130 or the 9600 so yeah it's still a counterfeit card it who knows what's on there and I'm not gonna start trying to flash bios and stuff on there because I don't think at the end of day it's really gonna matter now we got to see if we can't see what's up with this guy all right I don't expect this to work I think this card is just straight-up dead okay this time it actually identified because not only does it have the proper 10 de 12 44 1b for ca 0 0 - the other one just that's how we know the other ones still counterfeit cuz it didn't have any of the other identifying numbers maybe I should install the 550 ti driver first based on the first part load VGA BIOS well that's gonna have to be for another time because I can't load the BIOS and be flash won't let me do it it says it's not an Nvidia graphics card and it says it's not Nvidia graphics card because it doesn't have a BIOS on it and I can't get a BIOS on it because it won't load because it won't load because design media graphics card because has no BIOS sometimes this works it's rare but they're fixed it anyway guys thanks for watching I do like playing with broken hardware here and then this thing never worked he said it never worked and yeah so anyway god that's a flexible cooler holy crap alright ah okay the sacrifice has been made pc guys it fought back alright thanks for watching I'll see you the next one