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hey what is going on everybody welcome to good to go this is our inaugural episode and I'm very excited for it I'm Noah Kravitz from technobuffalo here in oakland california high and I've changed kittrick with ZDNet mobile news here in euston Texas now i gotta say since it's our first episode james i'm just going to say it straight off the bat been a fan ears for a long time I can hear the audience crying foul already knew fanboy allegations for me Bell take a mess okay but I've been a fan of yours for a long time before we got to know each other a little so I'm thrilled to be doing this I'm just like to get a chance to talk with you on a regular basis well I have the same way I've been following your stuff forever and I was excited recently when we finally met you know and we did so I guess we oh we oh HP a debt of gratitude for a pull us together cuz I think that's where we met in person at their event now I've got them probably more sales than anybody that's all they want is the money so so speaking of that event and to get past the the niceties here and get on to it I think we're talking tablets this week how could we not with you know the big news out of San Francisco is that was that just yesterday it feels like weeks ago already well that's because they probably apples probably gathered another ten percent market share since yesterday I think I think John from our site was actually on TV and they uh this morning and instead of talking about the gadgets they roped him into talking about stock prices so i will stay away from that one but but you know i wish i bought the stock long ago anyway ipad2 what do you think what do you make of the news well i think it's exactly what I expected it needed to be a you know a good improvement but not revolutionary in any way but the important thing I think was Keith the price to say so you increase the value they've already set an aggressive price bar with the original iPad and then their competitors have got to just be shaky today you know what are we gonna do yeah you know I would agree with you I think it's an interesting thing I find that the people who is sort of the vocal followers sites like ours and imagine you know your blog as well the tech enthusiast we talked a lot about specs and we look at spec sheets and you know you can point to Apple isn't talked about how much Rams and the thing dual core right exactly right quad core has already been announced and but when you when you look at you know the the sales figures and the profit margins and the people buying these things in the way that they market the products you know I found really telling yesterday was the emphasis that jobs put on talking about how you know we just don't understand how the competitors are approaching this and for us it's got to be simpler than a pc and they talked a lot about the applications and you know I'm a big video guy so I'm psyched to try I movie you know I don't know if it'll be any good i've got to zoom and zoom came preloaded with a video editing application here we go let's plot the guns right have you tried that at all the movie studio on zoom no I well I've opened it but I don't have any movies on it so I know I haven't tried it yet it's fine I mean I'm psyched that there's a video editing app that came pre-loaded because I've been wanting you know there's something you can mess around with on iOS and stuff but uh you know it's fine but then you see we could have done this call we could have just done a gtalk video call amna oh that's right I forgot about gtalk on this thing yeah we could do that for next time and that's because you know they don't they don't market it that's I mean that's the other thing you know kind of getting back to the way that that Apple and jobs yesterday and and you know apples advertising agency certainly position this stuff and talk about they're talking about apps and experiences and the way people use the thing and not you know dual cores and spec sheets and all that stuff the way that guys like us and you know the people who who read and talk about us do and I don't know what do you see from from the competition that's out there you said they're shaking in their boots do you see anybody who's you know maybe shaking a little bit less than the others well I I think personally the the company that's excited me most from what I've seen personally is HP with the touchpad webos I I think it's it radically different from everything else out there with Android and all the stuff and it looked I mean I spent a couple hours as did you I know out and that they HP at web wasn't rent right and I was really improving it looked ready to me yeah it looked ready it looked like you could pick it up and really use you know then that's what we say about the ipad that's the advantage they always have over there you can pick it up and just do stuff right right that's the thing you this slew of Android 30 devices coming out I I did a little bit of uh we were talking before we hit the record button i did a little little bit of i knew what i was doing yesterday I made some comments on Twitter because I wanted to see what the Android army would come back at me with you know and that's the thing to me about about Android I actually like three dot oh I like the zoom more than i thought i would but right out of the box how much can you do with it and and that's sort of the you know it's a double-edged thing because i think that um people who like android would say well you can customize it so much you can do anything you want with it it's there are no boundaries and you know the flip side saying you know well apple just sort of ropes you into exactly the experience they want you to have and that's not what i want and you know it's an interesting thing two ways of doing business but that i think is part of what maids what's made ipad so successful and i agree with you on the touchpad i was also really impressed i thought webos kind of felt like it was meant to be on a bigger screen almost or you know at least it seems to work really well the developer part of that that event was was lacking a little bit though no disrespect to the 14 year old kid who made the game but that's not really i think what people were hoping to see yeah I think you're right but it always comes down to the apps and again that's another reason why the apple with the ipad is in such a strong position on me and and like you were just saying i actually look at a little bit differently i think what makes apples marketing so brilliant quite frankly no matter what you think of Apple I mean I don't think that like with the ipad that they're dictating how you have to use it I think they're masters that identify how all of the millions of regular people in the street not you and me techy guy you wanna you know i wanna i wanna mod i wanted i want to do custom rom on on my tablet which i've done you know we don't buy enough to make any money they want the billions of dollars they can get from the people on the street and so they identify how they're gonna use it yeah and that's the experience they perfect you i can i call it the 90 10 rule quite frankly right explicit explain that's what that means for people who might not know well i mean in my experience ninety percent of the people well most all of mainstream consumers not technically sheís they spend ninety percent of their time using a given device and they only use ten percent of the functionality i right like like my brain somebody once told ya yeah mar 2 yeah but and and that's what Apple does so well they identify that ten percent that that people can spend all their time doing and they make it bulletproof simple intuitive drop dead easy you know what always boggles my mind you remember remember I mean set that long ago remember that the evo 4g android phone HTC on sprint and that phone came out i say remember he's going to pull it advised that there you go great device yeah one of the first thing in your first 4g so-called 4g phone in America front-facing camera video chat before facetime exam yeah I can't remember an ad a TV spot for that phone that showed video calling happening I might be wrong here I probably am wrong but that's not what I remember from that they got to it eventually but the first series of ads I remember kind of an animated thing with what look like dominoes falling in the back yeah talking about first is this first is that first is whatever iphone 4 comes along and you see an ad immediately based on FaceTime right and it's like you know grandfather talking two grandkids and people far away and just that exactly what you're just saying this is how ninety percent of the people you know we're going to use this and it's always boggled my mind that that other companies don't necessarily go for that with their advertising of the especially as things like smartphones and tablets are going so mainstream they market the stuff to people like you and I and like I said we don't have the big but we don't in the numbers Yeah right they need to they need to market it to my aunt's salad you know who who's not even sure she wants a tablet yeah but she can sure tell you what an ipad is right you know and that's that's whole thing its awareness yeah yeah real quick cuz we don't want to our hidden are are we set a time limit out before we get this off we were joking you know you get you get two geeks in a room alone talk and you know suddenly it's next tuesday so yeah what do you what do you think about we you know we touch real real briefly on HP blackberry and you know this is sort of a longer more reading tea leaves thing but microsoft and the tablet markets you know we know we've seen playbook have an idea when it might be coming out some rumors that i might run android apps that kind of thing but not not anything concrete from Microsoft or you know the windows phone nokia partnership what are your thoughts on either of those well I think the PlayBook will probably do well in the enterprise and I think that's where they're aiming it and knocked at the consumer and I think that's probably smart i don't see consumers flocking to the playbook but I mean you never can tell Microsoft as far as the the windows with of its arm-based windows tablets or whatever they're there in an odd situation they don't make hardware I mean I all they're gonna do is put something out there and hope companies grab it up and they they're gonna be so far behind I don't know if they're gonna get a lot of people to to jump yeah you know yeah yeah I have I have a little bit of that concern for the webos stuff but you know they have more of you know especially now with the muscle of HP behind them you know they have that top to bottom hardware software marketing all in one spot thing happening and then HP's huge distribution reach that you know palm didn't have that during that kind of their first resurrection so their second resurrection this time around yeah they're better position so but i agree with you i think i think windows phone 7 is a separate conversation there's a lot of things i really like about it and GDC the game developers conference is going on in San Francisco this week i was there briefly the other day I'm gonna head back tomorrow and they have an area set up with all the windows phone devices out and some evangelists talking to developers and that kind of thing but but similar feeling you know I don't know if it's too late for uh for them to to really get back into mobile you just don't know but you know you mentioned the GDC d know that it's some of the yet to be at the at the right sessions that were giving zooms to every attendee I heard about that yeah you know that that's the kind of stuff these guys need to do I mean get people on board and and try to cause apps is every-everything and that's I know that's got to be your your response your experience with the zoom to dad there's just a lot of things I go to do that I I just can't now yeah I wish it was an app for that right right right and that makes me you know i actually i have a barnes & noble nook color on loan from those guys and relative to what it is and i tend to get all excited about you know that's a $42 computer I don't care if it crashes every 10 minutes is 40 bucks but the nut color i think is actually pretty interesting you know for 200 bucks especially if you read a lot you know and it's got the store built right in there it's so easy to just you know spend money on magazines as well not just the books but then it's got a decent its android-based so it's got a decent web browser I can keep wanting to pinch and zoom on it I can't do it yeah and supposedly an app store coming soon and I really like that size that 7 inch size i think is pretty nu rooted it I'd I'm sure and and you probably reading kindle books on it you know I'm sure they'd love that you you I you give me more credit than I deserve I didn't even have to root it I just somebody compiled a honeycomb port that you can boot right off of the microSD oh that's even easier she's even easier because that way when you're done messing around with it turn it off pop the SD card you're done turn it back on your right back to reading you know yeah whatever it is you're reading on the nuke OS so and and let's face it this is the kind of stuff that we like about Android because you can do all the stuff right mr. all right well we should wrap it up to stick to that yeah you know I think we're a couple minutes over our early limit but first show surprised if people want more more review James where can they find it I met ZDNet the mobile news blog at zdnet com / blog / mobile dash news ice in short what do you think you might do this again next Thursday sure all right I'm not sure what's going on next week I don't know I I'm gonna ignorance is bliss cuz you know yeah I never look at a calendar on on any of your devices cuz you'll you'll be sick yeah exactly alright till next time it's a pleasure right forward to it folks who are watching this out there you know definitely hit us up in the comments you're watching this on a video channel or TechnoBuffalo wherever you are you can find us on Twitter and if you have suggestions things you'd like us to talk about questions you know drop them in the mail bag we'll see what we can do shoot them to us nice target they adore you too James we'll see you next week see ya