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and welcome to the second episode of the TechnoBuffalo show as always online your three house for this week Shaun on a editor-in-chief of the site I'm joined by executive editor of gaming joey davidson hello and executive editor of mobile Todd Hazleton there's one good I get what's up yep what's up dudes just a couple quick housekeeping notes here before we get into the meat of today's show first off the show is now on services such as iTunes and pocket casts and also stitcher so you can search for us we do also have an RSS feed that you can subscribe to and you will find the links for all four of those in the posts on TechnoBuffalo for this episode also thank you to everyone for the really positive support we got after last week's show we are very excited to be doing this on video now and we're glad that you're all enjoying it as well and please keep the feedback coming with all the housekeeping out of the way we're going to dive into something I think we can all agree that March 18th may be the day we can all right down on the counters hey we finally entered the future I'll reward announce that I wasn't there well okay the hoverboard stills not here nor are flying cars ah ah too bad but all sorts of other nifty things happened yeah so let's go around the table here and we're going to start with mobile Todd what happened yesterday that was so exciting oh we got well as I was rushing out the door to a meeting we had android wear was announced which was it's google's SmartWatch platform for wearables actually I don't even know if it's going to be limited to smartwatches really like it could potentially be used for anything but first more watches will say for now Bell and then mode encryption keys yeah I don't know what the potential gets there for all kinds of stuff right sure sure sure sure places but then moto motorola nounced the Moto 360 which is coming later shear and the G watch from LG I think sort of tease to the Moto 360 was just aesthetically speaking and in the the I don't know if their concept pieces or whatever was gorgeous yeah no I mean right now I think it very much is a concept piece which is no I think I was talking about earlier is kind of annoying now you're like all these companies are like oh here check out this product but you can't buy it now it's coming later and this is sort of what it looks like I really want to see like a tangible I wonder it looks amazing I want a price point how much Todd how much is the galaxy gear I guess would or the pebble even that was 149 but you can also get the pebble steel for what not 199 I think it still is so i would i would say these are going to come in at like probably 200 or 300 dollars that's when it's it all seems to be picking back on the google Mouse stuff yes yeah so it's totally based on google now which is sort of location aware so you can get alerts and weather and then put also tell you about like sports scores and things you're interested in and then also voice commands is a huge part of google map so making heared was Google now has become almost creepy sometimes like I said is you're selling minutes from your house how's that feel right and the thing is too it's also not perfect yet I mean if I google something randomly you know like where is like you the office location or something in irvine it'll say like it's gonna take you forever to get to irvine california i'm trying to go there right now ya know i think it is interesting and having that on a watch I'm kind of of two minds and obviously I'm not the mobile or gadget editor for us but um on one hand I think they're gorgeous and I'm really interested in the tech but on the other hand I'm kind of like is this is this a utility you know is this something that I'll actually use or is it something that'll just kind of get in my way or be that that one-time purchase that I never but look let's shot well yeah let's yeah so at CES I saw all the rest of the staff wearing pebble watches and I was like okay those are kind of cool so Todd said he had a spare and for those of you watching on the video show where's my spare Todd and I didn't know how much I would actually end up using this I've worn it every single day since Todd sent it to me and I find it amazingly useful what's what's been the what's been the thing that that you use it most for I i don't take my phone out of my pocket nearly as much now hmm uh you know i'm able to a little bit more slightly you know if something comes in while I'm talking to somebody oh it's a lot easier to just look down real quick driving is fantastic because if i get a text i don't care about emails while i'm driving if i get a text and I never I never ever text reply text when i'm driving but I you know your hands are up on the steering wheel I can just go okay you know and the name is in bold so I can see who it is if it's you know friend find the wait till you get to where I'm going you know if I'm driving somewhere in the office needs me I can go oh it's john i pull over and I reply then yeah but I don't I'm never tempted to look at my phone and yes this probably still not a hundred percent safe I fully admit that but it's safer than pulling my phone out I agree so yeah i've i've used the heck out of this thing since i got it now but like you joy i may not be the use case i like one day you and I were discussing Twitter and I'm definitely a power Twitter user because of the way i set my twitter up on tweetdeck and with gadgets i'm a power user for those of you listening to audio i'm making air quotes so yeah I I know that the general population probably is not going to be as interested in this is I am and I think that's the big question I saw a lot of stuff on Twitter yesterday about well doesn't this holy defeat the purpose of you know we got rid of watches with our smartphones we didn't give her a white man look no yeah works fine I put mine on for the show but I usually wear a regular watch too I mean not not also maybe that's partially why i see a question over here about a preference between the LG G in the Moto 360 um the LG G that's that's the square one right yeah yeah yeah I I mean just based on the watch i'm wearing now like I prefer really traditional watches so I'm with you I mean that's you I looked at the Moto 360 and I think Sean you saw me tweet this like yeah I this is the first time I've ever seen a SmartWatch and thought ok I could get into this and it's because of how classic it looks yeah I think that's what's going to make it more appealing to a wider audience now when I used to wear watches I used to wear our watch every single day they were all round however they all had Marvin the Martian on them yo so if the Moto 360 will allow me to put yo Animaniacs raised on my watch I'm all court why don't you watch no I I think that's interesting though you know because I I think the whole thing was that a lot of people moved away from wearing watches because they were a single use case item sure I'm where my watch I got this is gonna make me sound ridiculous but I wear my watch is an accessory it's not that's exactly on the same way it's not you know it's not like man I need to know the time like I rarely look at my watch i look at my phone faster than i look at my watch but you know if I used to look at my watch for the time but I do wear it is an accessory I actually have like a dozen watches yeah same here but I mean it I never I never use it as a watch so yeah ok so here's a another question from the honest do you think pebble steel price will drop when more smart watches are released uh they might have to I think that they might have to but I think it also depends on what prices that the new watches come in at yeah we're hearing that the LG G watch will be you know for the lower and the the Moto 360 is obviously going to be a bit of a high and so I think pebble is going to have to take a wait-and-see approach here and see you know what is the market bearing now we also to see and assume that pebble has an answer to these two you know mean why would I will not be considering a color screen and more you know robust interface and I think we'll see that from them and when that comes we'll see the price drop of the pebble steel to think the thing that the google smartwatch and if Apple makes one is well down the line has over pebble right now in regards to price stems from the fact that Google makes money on marketplace transactions where pebbles making money on their watch so they can't afford to take a loss at selling the hardware close to or below breaking even whereas if Apple makes one down the line or google makes apps purchasable for the watch specifically they'll make up any difference they would have lost in profits so that might help you know the Android wear devices come in a little bit cheaper than this is a really good point but pebble watch so that's I think that's the difference and I there there is no like first party pebble money maker aside from the watch itself right like there's no augment like augments you can buy for it or anything like that well yeah there's a little store but I don't think they take a cut from developers I don't really really yeah right yeah and I I think that is one thing well real quick let's get to this other questions come in about the subject when people are worried about our phones listening to us why aren't we worried of Google now stalking us and reading our emails and such well if you're using any google product they know everything about you i think this is this is a crazy subject in and of itself that kind of stems beyond just smartwatches i think that watches are just one other way to glance it at the life of the user i think that companies like this have established a sense of trust that i think that we're all whether we're suspending our disbelief here whatever remains to be seen but for now likes to say don't be evil right so right but I think we're all kind of buying into that like Google's not evil enough yet to where we're we're worried about it and I say that like half jokingly but that's that's where it is if you're the type of person who buys a smart watcher who buys a smartphone or uses the internet like we do or Twitter or whatever else you're kind of saying I'm okay with my privacy being invaded a little bit and that's a really crazy subject probably so to be sort of give it up to right like if you want Google now to know about you to be useful you have to say yes give you access to the search queries on putting into maps and you know the sports I like because I want to know the score right you just kind of have to trust that the company won't misuse that information and so far I don't think that we've been slighted yet but it is creepy and terrifying now yeah we have a question from jacob kleinman i am not sure I've ever heard that name before I tweeted about this earlier bed been thinking about whether different shapes square / circle Android wear watches will mean even more fragmentation thoughts that's an interesting yeah possible but I think when they set I think there's only two options right now right absolutism so if they keep it there yeah but then once I mean no there's not that much fragmentation or I just one or the other but then I think as future designs come and you have sharper displays on watches because these are sort of relatively low resolution then you do run into fragmentation issues and the same thing with future software updates right as the processors inside get more powerful you have more features than the watch is sort of lead to I think at launch we aren't going to see a whole lot of fragmentation but down the road yeah it's just it's the nature of the beast unfortunately unless you're a situation like Apple where they strictly control you know what it's going to be on you know and you know you only have to work with these parameters but you know it's like when you get into Android development you know there was a picture that one upper published ones of the table just littered with tablets and phones that they had to test the half sizes yeah and so the possibility does exist for fragmentation down the road but I think up the initial launch it's going to be pretty even sure okay we're getting some more here let's see what do you think will be after the wearable watches oh well I think that's a good question because well it brings up a little bit of what I was talking about yesterday what happens with Google glass now because sure it's this augmented reality but so I probably wanted google glass because I warrant directions and it's know about the world around me but when that's on my wrist now sort of on my face which I think looks pretty dorky then I have no reason to buy google glass anymore i'm wondering if they're cannibalizing your over google glasses Savior will be determined based on whether or not Google is able to find third-party manufacturers that can make Google glasses look cool yeah like Warby Parker if Ray Bans can step up and make a google glass that actually looks good then it's it's no different than watch you know what I mean in my book it becomes a multi-purpose tool it's an accessory yes it looks good but it's also really useful as that happens i think i think the google glass will be ok but Todd I do see what you're saying right now to me the the average user i'm not i'm not as engrossed in this stuff as you guys are silly because of my job function but to me the average user Android wear is more compelling than Google glass right now so yeah we're getting a lot of questions about google glass here such as what plans do you think google has for google glass do you think they'll change the design to more of a normal look they have to they absolutely have to they have to drop the price yes price as well and you do you think android wear will be brought to google glass the consumer version like comes out possibly i don't know because then otherwise you've got people developing for two different platforms that one thing I did want to bring into this and it does fit in some what is that also announced yesterday was Sony's project Morpheus yeah which is Joey that's your wheelhouse so why don't you explain to the listeners what project Morpheus yeah that that was actually announced in GDC after I kind of left for the day so I played catch up this morning uh it's Sony's virtual reality headset right now they're just getting it to developers it's going to be going to developers soon so the announcement wasn't as outward-facing is something that we might see at e3 this was more this tech is coming here's kind of what it can do developers go nuts it's a little bit like oculus rift there are some differences but the bullet points for the Morpheus the VR headset for the playstation 4 it's going to be able to do tapey which is huge it has what was it 360 degrees of motion detection which is also awesome and then a 90 degree field of view which is pretty cool too the other really interesting thing with morpheus that I think kind of trumps the current state of oculus rift when Morpheus is projected on a television like say i'm using it right now and Todd you're chillin on my couch on my television instead of seeing that like pizza eatin pizza bro instead of seeing that like binocular display you know that like the vehicles it's an actual standard television image which means that the virtual reality experience isn't really hindered for other people in the room it's pretty awesome looking but in my mind it's it's unproven tech it needs software software sells hardware so I'm kind of waiting to see what happens there and the price point everything else but if any of the big three console manufacturers is going to do this well it's going to be Sony so well I now there's been attempts at virtual reality before we most of us remember the VR boy at the Virtual Boy virtual boy I can't get to boy thank you I do you think Joey that gamers are really that ready for virtual reality is it something they're really craving it's this one's for okay so we're looking at a possible 3d market burst here 3d has tried to crack into gaming and cinema for four decades decades upon decades the 3ds has a built-in but if you talk to most 3d s users they play with the 3d slider off ninety-five percent of the time I think that virtual reality has the chance to go either way either users are going to adopt it because of the price point and the software if if they nail those two things then I think we could see gamers kind of becoming obsessed with it and it being a new phenomenon if it's too expensive and the software is not compelling it's not going to go anywhere yes sir oculus was so amazing like wearing that I didn't want to like leave that virtual reality yeah it is so fun and I can't imagine what like these big expansive world type games would be like when you can just run around and sort of see the possibilities here and I know it sounds cliche but the possibilities are almost limitless it just has to do with pricing 3d television was too expensive for the mass market to enjoy it's just too expensive so without the install base you had developers making nothing compelling for it right all right all right Joey here's the seller red dead redemption too yeah total crunch left and right by my face oh my god Sean to be so happy yeah riding into the sunset with a brawl reality huh man they were looking at seventy dollars we'd be like oh my god okay it's it's got you you've hit the nail on the head joy the pricing is what's going to determine this I even maybe more so than the software because if it comes in at 399 499 you know the price of a console just possible as end on then that could be a definite detractor I mean and it's going to death my impact sales team I would totally drop for like 4 99 on the oculus rift I could buy what I saw at CES oh I don't think as you know what well yuck euless rip shot I don't think that's necessary man I don't have any nines gonna be necessary I know but it's like a diet plan to I wouldn't do anything man get the oculus rift and then that like octagon trackpad that you stand yeah my name is todd haselton I got no I'm just saying cuz I'd be like I can't eat that now still stuck in this game my wife would have to come home from work and like unplug me oh man no you're staying there in the oculus rift and she's just yo feeding it into your mouth yeah this is so real I can taste it I well I think it's super interesting I think virtual reality like just all this wearable tech stuff and I know that it's two different segments on the same topic but it's super super compelling and I think that for both it holy depends on entry price right i mean that's what's keeping people away from google glass right now how much is it fifteen nails and we are getting some questions here about pricing let me let's hit up yep I what is the price of google glass currently right now for the Explorers it's $1,500 but they haven't announced yet what the mass market price will be but it's not going to be cheap on let's talk about let's talk about regular ray-ban glasses sometimes costing hundreds and hundreds of dollars yeah now put a computer in it yeah exactly I I don't buy name-brand yo frames and they still run me 150 175 dollars for frames sure if it's ridiculous you're gonna have a generic line of Google frames i think you know but it's still going to be exact so since you yeah and then we had a question here about the oculus rift the oculus rift is expensive as hell that's uh II think they should but do you think they shouldn't make a cheaper version that's the goal right listen yeah that's the goal and that that's what everyone has to remember is that when a technology first comes along you've got the higher price for the for the early adopters and it's the early adopters that make those purchases that help fund the company to go forward and be able to buy in mass which brings the price down for the general consumer so yeah while things are always expensive when they first come out then you have to let people like us that the tech geeks the first adopters you have to let us buy the stuff to make it cheap entertainment oculus they're not trying to make their hardware the the Ferrari of gaming it's not going to be this uber expensive thing that only the elite can afford that that wouldn't do them any services so it will come down absolutely yeah they want to be mass market and I think the other thing is to their expensive to start because developers buy it and it's worth it for them because then they create the software and hopefully make their money back mm-hmm deal but the I I think the whole thing here is we we have to look at we had two major announcements yesterday that we're very exciting and they are two fairly new markets yes Theo and wearable watches there's already been you know the pebble and the original Galaxy gear but we're going into markets that are not one Harris improving yet to even have anyone desiring them yeah I think that you have to remember that the people watching this show and us you know the writers for sites like technobuffalo we represent a super tiny sliver of the market so while we're interested in I don't think that our dollars are enough to facilitate the existence of these things on the mass market yet I'm geeking out over smart watches but I don't know if my dad is or my wife or my friends exactly I think that's where Apple might come in with health book and stuff and when you add a reason like when you can actually see your health stats and find out more about yourself as devices then I think well that opens up a whole new market right and I think that's where Apple kind of might slaughter away that's where Nintendo's going I think we're gonna see Apple and Nintendo clash on that front in near future Nintendo's focusing on wearable fitness tech as well so if you get two heavy hitters like that going at it in a field that I mean Nintendo's already proven that it can get on the tech bus pretty well with we fed you'll see what happens it's really compelling and interesting though uh do you think Google wearables is just watches that's what I was saying I think yes to start but I think it opens yeah I think Connor I could see it on t-shirts I could see it on hats I'm not even kidding man why do I know I know in a far in the future I mean there's theories that you're gonna body naked power so these devices oh that's nerdy an awesome oh my god i mean that's like that's not this year next year but i do then okay let me date my age again for everyone does anyone else here remember the hyper color t-shirts yeah there were mostly mood rings for your body yeah unless you're someone like me who always runs hot that it was just always the hot color but oh yeah you you know that this was a very baseline technology of body heat yo changing the color of your shirt right so yeah that's an interesting idea android wear shirt that you know somehow detects it detects your body heat and then adjust climate control in your car and house yeah I'm ethically to like why not a ring we've seen those kind of NFC rings yeah sure sure sure sure I've mean yeah if my wedding band somehow got like in some awesome tech in it that'd be pretty sweet yeah if they make a partnership with DC Comics and I can help hey oh man if I could I can charge it each night my in brightest day in blackest night thank you and I won't nerd I think the risk just makes the most sense for the size of the screen in it and stuff like that oh yeah that's why we're seeing you know watches because why not had a watch I mean I have a fitbit force and this has watch too yeah I think that if any market is in trouble with these smartwatches it's those fitness bands I think that that they're the ones that have the most to be worried about yeah except for what we don't know is battery life on all of these things I mean pebbles really good it gets they're gonna make tremendous battery life that the tech is getting is so long as it's there yeah but that's why these fitness bands are great because they they do last yeah but i mean if if they can create a fitness triming in that in that little android wear promo video that was running yesterday I mean that chick burned like 50 calories or something but having that act at my disposal at all times is awesome that's cool yeah here's another this is more of a statement than a question google has a track record of releasing things at very competitive price point and since the general public don't have 600 bucks and what not to buy things they will probably go for cheaper things they do what they want yes Google does have a good track record with that if you look at the Nexus 5 the nexus 7 the student BBC's Nexus 10 they came out at prices that were reasonable and I think that eventually the Android wear product here here's the the sticky point though the LG watch and the motorola watch are not nexus type devices they are products coming from those companies so they're going to get to set the prices i think and going off of i think this is nathan stamen google has always shown at least an awareness of price competition and they tend to offer things that meet the needs of multiple markets so yeah they might have that $1,500 glass experience right now that's meeting the needs of a very high-end market but they're also definitely going to produce something that you and me can afford as well so I mean their awareness is promising I think at the vigilance point and it's it's Amazon's model to where you sort of settle the hardware probably super low margin like they do with your kindle fire and then make your money back when they buy apps amazon's always really good it Amazon's always been really good at making good products out of cheap stuff I think and and part of that is why things are so cheap for them like the kit I can't believe they're selling Kindles for less than a hundred dollars right now that's just awesome but you know they Bank on the fact that you're gonna go book crazy and whatever so mm-hmm now we've got a question here what do you think of the Kickstarter start up a halo band is bracelets the next division of wearables I'm actually not familiar with this Kickstarter either of you or another mmhmm I'll google it let me bracelets talk to your watch I mean isn't a watch kind of abrasive yeah it is III think I've heard something about this unfortunately a actually this I wish we could follow every Kickstarter out there but yeah we would have to hire someone just to follow Kickstarter all day don't want that job hey I do think there is going to be an expansion past watches past glasses you know where exactly it's going who knows I wouldn't be surprised if some day somebody goes here's smart stinkers why not right why not they talked to your phone via bluetooth they measure the the pressure you're applying to your feet when you had our leak there nike nike did that with with the iphone there was a there's a shoe that has like a sensor that you put in the tongue of ocean itself right but yeah i'm talking about being built into the shoe itself you never Sean it are any of this you have no original thoughts sorry bad but no I i do think they're gonna expand into more products than just what we already know out there yeah let me look through here real quick we do you think the future of gaming is VR this is a lot like mobile the mobile gaming question I I think that that couch based at least in contemporary time and I mean like the last hundred years uh couch based activities are the center of home life for a lot of people I don't see that changing and and virtual reality will maybe become an extra wrong of gaming but I don't see it being the new the new it right yeah I agree Oh see here uh do you think android wear Google will finally release more functionality globally I'd I was not where Todd Dino is Android wear only limited to the US for right now I don't think they said anything on that front I'm sure their goal is to go global it Google does everything globally so if it's not there now it will be yeah Abba me chromecast Nicholson 11 new country so it took a while but exactly let's see here did you do samsung as one of the partners to make android where do you think that samsung samsung will prefer to use their own Tizen OS for their wearables we're using Android wear Luigi yes certainly i mean they definitely want use Tizen and that's why they're doing that but I think they've seen a lot of success with Android why not why not try it i think one of the funniest things that these companies say or that they say regularly is well we did it because we can so you'll see i'm sure Tizen OS continue to influence probably not going to shut it down now they're just sort of building that it out but they're also not going to just ignore Android wear because they can use it so they're probably good I mean would be stupid not to here's a similar question and do you think Samsung will make many smartwatches wearables like what they do with their phones but focus on one main line up I think it's too early to tell I think I think we certainly will i mean gear too and the gear 2 neo are examples of a lineup in the wearable market and then the gear fit so if this gear line that goes you know the galaxy line so yeah I've ever okay and one last wearables question then we'll get into the grab bag of questions that have been coming in which there are a few of them NASA now's your chance to submit any yes yes we heard coming up to that point so please feel free to ask questions about any topic for the end of the show what do you think of Fitness wearables such as samsung's galaxy fit do you think they are headed in a direction to bring fitness apps to all wearables yes yeah we kind of hit hit on this a little bit there I personally think that the Fitness wearables are the single purpose Fitness wearables are going to be in trouble within the next few years simply because if this Android wear stuff takes off it's going to you know people don't wear pedometers very often anymore because their phones do that like it's stuff like that so yeah I'm with you I glue I think they're they're going to be cannibalized by later yeah okay one last one here thoughts on possible i watch who knows I mean I mean it has to you Apple has to answer this we've seen enough it sounds like the guys that mind if I back know what they're doing and they're they've seen health book I see no reason why Apple wouldn't watch i watch yeah I and you know there's been some questions maybe Apple a little too late to the game at their Apple I know I I hate to put that way they're only focusing on I'm sure they're only focusing on the iWatch working with the iphone yeah so it really matter thoroughly to the game exactly as their markets already out there all right yeah Android wear is not going to work with the iphone so you know I it's going to be interesting okay so here we are into the grab bag what do you think about 4k display if you're talking on televisions I think it's absolutely gorgeous but I don't think there's enough content out there yet to warrant the purchase that that's for sure I own no interest in four days that were I just don't add no it's not weird although I mean I when I was at CES this year i get to see an 8k display yeah i also the eye Joey you would have appreciated this the demo video they were running was all shots from around Japan shot an 8k cool that's pretty neat and it was it was almost like hyper reality I you couldn't tell that it was almost too realistic and it's absolutely gorgeous but that brings up the question ok so 4 k's are out there they're too expensive by the time their price comes down here come the 8 case where does the cycle stop do wheel it doesn't yeah exactly yeah exactly so 4 k's interesting but until there's more content out there I I wouldn't worry about it uh what do you think of the newly announced Oppo find 7 i'm i think that's got a ridiculous camera what uh was it 13 megapixel sensor it just has software that allows you to shoot 50 megapixel photos by like super and again it seems neat I'm not a quantity display though on the topic I just got here really that's true would you ever consider changing your name to Bob yes but only if I could spell little B little Oh big be no I like Todd yeah yeah we're kinda happy with our names and here's another question what's the deal with the Oppo find 7 50 mil oh thank pixel that's all I need some factories yeah it's crazy it's nuts and it's another example of people confusing the number of megapixels with the quality can you Todd can also it's not a 50 megapixel sensor it's me the rundown man because I know nothing about this just so for what I understand it's a 13 megapixel sensor this is cable using software of creating a 50 megapixel photo really super zoom how that's good question i'm not an engineer and I listening I haven't seen the phone I haven't talked to a boy I just know that that's how overs cool yeah with a 13 megapixel sensor it's the 50 mega pixels are gonna look grainy as anything that's my guest hey we won't know until we actually try it out for ourselves but that would be my guess um let's see here what do you think about the rumors about the new HTC One camera do you think that not switching to more traditional cameras will hold them back with the market this year Todd this is definitely in your now I don't think they'll be held back in the market I think they're gonna they put a lot of emphasis on the quality of the pictures that their phones can take I think the four ultrapixel camera on the HTC One was great but I do admit it really degrade the quality when you try to zoom in and i think i saw a rumor right like someone said there's also a 13 megapixel camera on there I don't know so we'll see but i think you know from everybody i know my wife has an HTC One my sister has one they all love the camera so I don't think that you know not changing the camera is going to affect them in any bad way I mean consumers are like is the camera good and the guy at the store is like that's pretty good than five I mean that's honestly what happens for like a regular consumer yes not like it was a bad camera by any means I think it is great what do you guys think of Oppo find 7 faster charging technology do you think it will lower the battery life again that's a we have to wait until we actually get our hand yeah I haven't seen it but Samsung and Sony both do this too and it doesn't affect the battery life the only problem is you need to use their charger so with the Galaxy Note 3 and spore I think and Xperia z1 you need to use their charger so you're at a friend's house you something else not only does it charge slower sometimes the charges even slower than a regular device and a lot of times the battery trains a lot quicker too so there's some downsides to this now when do you think major manufacturers will make 4k phones oppo find see this year I guess yeah that was quite HD racing a really off topic or Amy you guys excited for Star Wars Episode 7 and the other new films as much as I dislike the prequel trilogy I don't hate the prequel trilogy like a lot of people I disliked it whoa I'm not praising it oh gosh saying that the thing is anything more than a turret is wrong is like awful just awful hey you didn't enjoy watching congressional debate here's look here's my here's my two cents on star wars and the prequels and where I hope the new ones go the original Star Wars films were awesome because they stay followed a group of three or four really tight-knit heroes in their quest in this much bigger picture the original prequels like the one is that George Lucas followed up with they tried to zoom out and cover c-span in space and then throw a few feathers and villains into it that we had no reason to identify with them at all if episode 7 8 9 7 7 8 9 follow that core dynamic of heroes in a much bigger picture those flicks are going to be awesome Star Wars is a little more than buddy cop and space with magic that's how it should work that's how those films work doing anything else is just silly so as long as they stick to basic site could be awesome i I'm curious I want at least one scene in a Senate it just has to have no the Senate better be on fire and there better be a scene where old Luke and old hon high five that needs to happen now I I'm excited for him I am I I can vividly remember the first time I saw you know Star Wars before I was called a new hope and a midnight showing in Phoenix in September 1977 so Wow yeah I I was six years old and the only ticket my family could get was to a midnight showing so yes a six-year-old nice I think saw Star Wars at midnight and got home at like 3am but but we finally saw how do you feel about the rumors the Nexus program is going away I don't know I don't not sure I buy it because it's sort of Google's when you go to a best buy now you see the google stand it's sort of like their way to promote Android and their products and that makes a lot of sense to consumers like Nexus was once for developers and now it's a consumer-facing grant and I think then we see like the google play edition devices that are sort of more for developers I'm not sure it could go away sure I just don't know why Google would have built it up recently than to just kill it off yeah to stay on top of the market do you think Google will release on Nexus 10 or a new Nexus tablet with a bigger screen we're actually hearing rumors of what is that 8.9 Todd yeah something like that an HTC worse yeah I I think every time I i don't think the tens coming back I think it was knows well I when you're in the 10 range though it's obvious i owe the ipad controls that market so why not go for other sectors it says um what is the song that is used before the podcast begins in the audio only stream it is royalty-free zoot suit music yeah it was the one that I hated least out of the yes and Sean gave me I spend it almost an entire day looking for music and I send the links to Joey and all oh that's horrible well I think this one's even worse cuz i was listening to them for the first time in a video call with Sean so we just hears me going uh-oh goslee made me feel great about all the work I put into fighting slightly crappy el elevator music good mediums not like that that's what you get with royalty free music no so bad i recently got note 3 how big do you think most companies will stop enlarging the screen I think we're close I mean yeah there's a couple companies I've done seven inches and yes I I have a mega 6.3 as a backup phone we can go bigger okay I used to know three and it's like about this is large as I'm willing to go I I my 56 in the United States is probably that is excuse me guys my phone's ringing oh my gosh yeah seriously but in the meetings I've had with with these OEMs Asia is a huge market for the big phones so yeah I don't know maybe it'll keep going bigger than no I promise you joy that was not a real fast yeah sure you would bully have the 6-3 right to Megan that's pretty huge yep okay two more questions will be done for today folks do you think that all those unofficial renders from the iphone 6 was close to a bezel of screen can be a reality i can imagine Apple pulling off a 4.7 inch screen on a phone not my charger than the iphone 5 but that's the case now first off those are not leaked renders those are concept images so those are surrenders you say yeah those are completely unofficial the those are just imaginings by different artists I do think though with a bezel lyst display or near bezel lyst display that Apple could pull off of 4.7 and close to the same physical space as the iphone 5s I think they're probably going to go there I think they almost have to yeah it'd be cool but the only thing is yeah i'm sorry i'm just looking at my phone you have to get rid of the home button itself yeah that's that's gonna be the big question mark is the home button I don't know we'll probably find out in September may be awesome though bezel is let's see it happen uh-oh Joey here's one for you what do you think of the SimCity offline mode have you tried it uh yeah I actually got it with the patch yesterday I put about two more hours into the game it loads much faster now that it's doing it on my computer not relying on the internet which is awesome um I'm glad that max listening I did it I think they did it way too late I think it should have been there launch I think that the community was pretty basically pretty obvious and honest when they announced that it was online only and we all went please dear god no and then they released it anyway what they deserved all of the negative energy that they got for that and then by saying that just the whole thing was a marketing nightmare for EA and maxis now that it's here I'm glad but I just a night light anymore too little too late man yeah little too late that I am someone that put well over a hundred hours in the SimCity 4 I have have like 50 or 60 hours into the Super Nintendo version of SimCity of all things I the missing i stopped at 25 with the SimCity I don't see myself going too much further than that so all right one one final question and this could be a hot topic what's the best type of cake on anyone I got my mom makes an angel food cake do you guys know what angel food cake is yeah that really light fluffy our cake batter eels that awesome cake and then she puts crumbled up heath bar on the inside Oh white vanilla icing on top whoo damn that might take cake might take the cake my favorite chocolate on chocolate on chocolate and at my wedding we couldn't do that we had to have a vanilla frosting for whatever reason the national flowers usually uh did you get a groom's cake at your wedding show our time no I guess you know my wife loves me and she got me a groom's cake she got me a cookie cake next oh man it was so awesome so you know I wanted chocolate on chocolate rock no wait we had the traditionally multi-tiered wedding cake and then you see all the groomsmen still not next to the lyceum cookie cake um I'm boring I actually like just plain white cake with it all i care about is how good the frosting is yeah frosting key yeah I like cream cheese like the cream frosting oh yeah cheese frosting unlike a red cake red velvet Oh had red wine cupcakes cool so is chocolate but then the icing and the chocolate was actually made with them or low whoo Wow just felt like just a drunk why no homeless man there's nothing chocolate into my face so good okay well that that question got a lot more answers than I expected don't mess with cake Shawn yeah well having never been married i haven't had a groomsman keo Grimm's cake so long every groom's cake I think of that groom's cake in steel magnolias the red velvet cake that's shaped like an armadillo so looks like it yeah yeah dissected an armadillo anyway well thank you all for joining us today as I said at the top of the show you can now find the show on iTunes stitcher pocket casts you can also subscribe to RSS feed you know so please get out there subscribe to it and you know please continue to leave comments and give us your feedback on what you think of the show and we're trying some new things and we're pretty happy with it but of course it all matters what exactly you think so for this episode i bin schon ani I'm the editor-in-chief of TechnoBuffalo I've been joined by the executive editor of gaming joey davidson thanks guys and the executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton hi everyone we'll see you back here next week at the very same time so mark it on your counters folks that will be on Wednesdays at noon eastern nine Pacific till then we'll see 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