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and welcome to the third episode of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm on your three hosts for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site I'm joined by executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton everyone an executive editor of gaming joey davidson hey what's up guys our apologies for being late everybody we had some technical difficulties for those of you watching live you can see there's to todds in the room and we can't figure out why so it's double the todd yeah one of those Todd's is a real big jerk yeah but we're not saying which one anyway so there's been a lot going on this week and we're just going to start briefly here Todd HTC One m8 any initial thoughts you care to share with the audience yeah I'm digging it so far I have it here we'll have our review up all right later this week we've been trying to spend some more time with it so we had our hands on and we walk through some features yesterday for you a lot of comparisons but we're still going to spend some time with it there's a various reports on the camera like a camera they actually it changed it in some ways by adding that depth lens sensor right there and then the older people up some more you tease what's that oh vine is what is really amazing but most of the complaints I've seen is about the camera so I want to play a little bit more with that bright light sort of wash this stuff out hmm which has been a problem because ultrapixel actually let's in more light so it does really well in low light situations but when you're outside and stuff that can get kind of messy so how's the image stabilization been on it so far no it's not good it doesn't have 0 is actually no that's that's the problem with the the one mini as well right they took it off that they didn't put it in the one max but the original last year's model hello is so is it fer fer a parent who takes pictures of a running toddler while doing like this the whole time it's really difficult to get a smooth picture of them so that's not cool yeah but the the experience is amazing so far super super fast like that's cool Snapdragon 801 it's not just I was reading other articles yesterday too it's not just an overclocked Snapdragon 800 idea we're saying that but it's really built on the 800 with it and you can it you can really notice it flies it only has two gigs of RAM which I thought might matter since people were kind of looking forward to three gigs that's what the galaxy s5 has it's tough but it seems totally fine or at least the note 3 has it yeah okay well and that question came from Jordan Edwards and we have one more ma question then we'll be getting to the other big story the second question comes from and Todd you can probably speak to this one the most do you think the HTC One m8 is going to change the fate of HTC I hope so i think because obviously you like to see as many competitors in the market as possible not hate to cgc go somewhere it's going to be about marketing and this time they're sort of leaving it up to us right there leaving not just me but I mean us as consumers to tell our friends like hey she sees this great product they put a lot of time into design and all that kind of stuff so they they're not relying so much as on like pushing out as many products as possible they think they can make enough money just on sales of premium products in creating this you know focus around their brand name you know moving forward to and so one of the ways they're going to do that is I talked to AT&T yesterday they're gonna keep selling the original one for a little bit but not in stores only online and then we'll see HTC introduce their desire 8 16 I think United States sort of a lower price point so you're not leaving the store without an HTC product which is one of their concerns and then they're keeping the one mini in stores too so good strategy moving forward because what they had told me is there concern was someone would look at the one last year say and say yeah it's a little too expensive and then walk out with a competitor's product so I think they're on the right track to keep you in there with their products I think that the one mini definitely deserves a minor facelift if if if they're looking to keep it on the market for much longer storage capacity battery life all that stuff is starting to show its age so yeah I'd like to see them continue with that the desire it succeeds a really sweet phone I don't know about their plans on major US carriers but I saw a death back at Memorial Congress it's actually awesome so I hope hey we've got one more question Todd you might be able to answer can you clarify the question of the on-board storage memory and what it ships with at the base two hundred dollar price but having a hard time getting clarification on whether it's 16 gigabytes or 32 gigabytes that's a good question because HTC wasn't really clear on that with us yesterday either we had a lot of the 199 price points and then they said 249 on some carriers I have an AT&T model here with 32 gigs of storage and I'm guessing this is going to be the more expensive one but remember they added expandable storage this time around two so you can add up to 128 cakes and I know that a lot of people like the local storage but you can move apps to that and everything so it should be pretty good okay well we're going to move on to another subject I'm sure we'll probably come back to the m8 for those of you that weren't aware yesterday a major story broke around what time was a tot around five thirty year time yeah like 545 vs yeah somewhere later in the day and a bombshell came ripping through the world of technology in the announcement that Facebook had purchased oculus now I one question I'm seeing in here is some people are asking exactly what is oculus so with Todd you've actually played with it Joey it's more in your field so i'll let you to debate which one wants to explain what oculus is no board Todd you want to start our final personal reality headset and there you go we played with the most recent version so yes Joey probably know the name better than I do I forget I'm still Cove foot boat and its really awesome and what the latest version does is you you put on this headset it has sensors that run alongside I guess early cool lights maybe and so when you're moving around in a game you can add there's actually perception and depth perception so if I'm looking at my computer say in a game and I move closer that computer comes closer and in the past it would sort of move away from you all time so you really feel like you're in this new environment and at CES I had this the virtual reality headset on from and I was playing this cockpit fighter game and I'm looking around you can like get in and look at the controls and everything look at it and you feel like you're in this totally different universe it's really unreal so that company it seemed was going to push some of the boundaries in gaming in some areas and I'll let Joey really explain that but is now acquired by Facebook for two billion dollars yeah 400 million in real money and at one point three million facebook shares so monopoly blocks basically oh yeah pretty crazy I eric frederiksen and i use the other gaming writer who's obviously not been on this show yet I he I had a real lengthy conversation this morning that we actually turned into an editorial which I know Sean you've seen it should go live later today it will Tuesday the day of her court Wednesday what what what year is it Wednesday sorry so it it's a crazy bit of news it's really interesting in the editorial that I just mentioned and I take up the position of frustration I'm not really happy by the news this news isn't exciting to me Eric took up the position of being a little more pleased with it so he's actually happy about it um for me I knew that oculus VR was going to get purchased it was a Kickstarter back project they brought that that kick-started to fruition so the dev kits are out there in the wild dev kit too i believe is shipping right now Crystal Cove is shipping this summer it's for PC gaming so far only but the Facebook acquisition implies just a crazy in chip of policy and and actually use for this thing there they're going to be using it for social interactions and some of the ideas being kicked around by some friends in talking about this just in the last 24 hours or twelve hours or how long it's been imagine like strapping a GoPro to my head Todd like I go skiing sometimes in the winter and I pop a GoPro on my head and then you're like Rome totally going to sit here watch you do this yeah there's sounds awesome that sounds awesome the gaming thing that I think a lot of us were hoping for so I don't know I'm kind of up in the air about it yeah I can see taking it out of the gaming room and say you know grandparents you know it say for instance Joe your parents want to see Connor and they could put on a helmet and you could use some sort of camera that would let them see him in a more 3d image I mean they could just drive 30 minutes well yeah I'm speaking generally and then then the other scenario i see is all those people from high school that have friended me on Facebook that I have no desire to speak to what so ever write us all hanging out in a room for a reunion right because their husband just you know recorded their birth live and posted that on to look and naivety ha culous I gotta watch this is it auto place as you scroll facebook it's horrible but so amazing what's up your bird was saying to like classrooms which I don't understand what are you doing with looking around a room of people with cameras that have them with VR on I don't know well it's I I can see it in an education scenario say like yo NASA want to do an outreach to a school in Africa those kids could never go to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory but a NASA instructor could take them around the JPL and show them that so there are educational advantages to this that I could agree with right and and and the hardware is not so unreasonably expensive and of course it'll it will come down over time but i mean it i think that the numbers i've heard floating around are like 300 bucks and of course you need a pc and an internet connection but it's not so unbelievably expensive that's old donation projects like that can't happen they can and will so that that part of it is interesting but i think the frustration that you're seeing this morning in the wake of last nights news comes from gamers who wanted a gaming focused piece where and I've like that's all but evaporated at this point it's a facebook says they're gonna continue let them operate independently and everything I don't know how to do that I I there's two pieces of proof here facebook bought instagram right I feel a lot of Instagram users would say that Facebook's been fine since that buyout I don't know how many people have been negatively affected except for those that just genuinely freakin hate Facebook and one nothing to do it like the average instagram user I don't think has felt that input impact however the only thing Facebook has done in the realm of gaming so far is their gaming service and developers there on that platform have been almost unanimously unhappy they changed the the products and procedures almost overnight without consulting any benefit or any developers they take a massive cut of profits that are made from developers and it's just like you want to access to our giant user base you're just going to have to bend to our our will hear and I think that's kind of scary yeah we had one question come in here what and this comes from Kyle Peterson what are the benefits of the purchase of oculus what should we expect because of this purchase the only benefit I I see initially especially for oculus is this gives them a lot more capital to work with oh the equity news is huge yeah you know and so they can advance the technology more since it really wasn't out in the public yet apparently something really is amusing Joey someone asked what are you hiding behind that sheet I was saving that question for the end of the show sorry I even noticed that Joey has been giving me grief about the sheets that's before the first step like you go and we'll come back anyway so I kills really isn't out in the public yet you know yes that is their dev kits out there and so on so I really don't see where it's going to negatively impact the majority of consumers at this point they're not going to know anything of oculus other than the facebook-owned version so i think yes the technology is going to get some major advancements due to the purchase of facebook but it's not going to be the same product it was and we just can't know yet if that's good or bad I think what's really interesting about this purchase that might be an immediate negative effect and and Eric and I talked about this a lot so if you are interested in this but do encourage you to check that out later and talk with us too because we'll be hanging out there as well the developer response to this acquisition has been really negative and problematic specifically the the guy developed minecraft so Markus notch Persson persone person never actually had to announce his name out loud naughty notch basically as soon as it happened he just popped over on Twitter was like so minecraft for oculus rift is cancelled I don't like Facebook um I I will say this i thought notch was extremely quick in that the man does not like facebook he's not a lone man there are plenty of people out there who really really don't like Facebook all right whether or not that's entirely warranted as a subject for a completely different episode i think but the fact of the matter is some developers especially indie developers that might have possibly created the most interesting and unique oculus rift experiences are jumping ship early really early I imagine that that Facebook's negative image and negative brand and the mind of developers and even youth culture to a certain extent most hood youths are not on the facebooks I know they're on Twitter and Tumblr and things like that but but I think that's because facebook is a very negative image in that side of the world so that's a problem we have another question from Jordan Edwards and do you think that Microsoft shut about oculus are not Facebook I I I think actually a lot of us would prefer to have seen oculus stay independent well if react about this time amazon any way any one company was gonna buy oculus rift not saying that this company would have but if any one company was going to buy them that made gamers happy it would have been valve I can't think of any other company that would buy them that people would would not be pissed off about I think that xbox one owners were really pleased with the oculus rift position if it was done by Microsoft but there's a giant slice the internet that really hates Microsoft right now so that that would probably be problematic for them too should Microsoft have purchased it I don't think it would have been a bad move but the higher ups and Microsoft are in the middle of all kinds of crazy shake ups there are people in that company that don't even want gaming to be part of of the microsoft suite of products so you know I don't know if necessarily would have been good for business for them steam vr that has a nice ring to it valve is working on their own VR I think that's yeah all right let me just get this question out of the queue Jake behind the sheet of some really ugly shelves holding dolls prefer those for those listening on audio you can't see that behind me there there's a sheet hanging well the sheet is hanging there too just so people don't have to stare at some ugly shelves with a bunch of toys and other stuff on them nothing nefarious they actually it's where I hide the bodies of the writers that just please me or get bottles yes um okay so next question here from Gabe Lasky why would Facebook by oculus rift what will it use it for it that is the giant question right now mm-hmm well social gaming and and education stuffs what Zuckerberg said in his blog post but I mean I don't see Facebook's use of it being gaming specific Todd um no I'm just saying what Zuckerberg said he's leaving it and he wanted he's not changing the gaming focus that's all i signal farmville no I compares it compared to the the sex scene and demolition man hi I saw a tweet that out right uh I think of the social interaction possibilities are pretty limitless here I think that on that side of the spectrum if it if it was an oculus rift and it was just another VR platform I think that we wouldn't be as frustrated because the the possibilities for social interaction with virtual reality are pretty cool but it's just the fact that this might be a little damaging to the gaming side of oculus regardless of what Zuckerberg says there's there the gaming world will have to feel this and whether or not it's indirect control or if it's if it's just as a result of the Facebook brand even being on it people quitting like like notch you know yeah here's one question uh what about Oh ash is from Gabe Lasky what about oil should they about oculus they don't have the money yeah add 2 billion was low ball I heard yeah and heard that that that two billion was was a little less than the oculus VR people would have one and I don't think I had had the money for that so I actually I saw an interesting tweet yesterday I unfortunately can't remember who said it but they said this was akin to when Yahoo offered 1 billion for facebook years ago and you know what Facebook is grown into oculus has a very bright future in front of it I mean unfortunately I didn't have time at CES to run over with todd to check out Crystal Cove but when he and Brandon got back to our little work area I can't remember the last time I saw either of them that built up and excited for anything they literally what do you really feel like you're entering another world it's very cool crazy to think about yeah yeah it's pretty cool I think if anything this move might have even further solidified at least for gamers their excitement for project morpheus from Sony almost every message board I've come across read it everywhere neogaf everywhere its people are just like well great now I know that I'm putting money into Sony's platform and not oculus that was pretty too and they said at least Sony's got something now so yeah I mean I don't think that it's quite as dire and all hope is lost as that like that that kind of makes my facebook just through like the the giant pile of oculus rifts and is currently backing over them with a truck like I don't think that that's why me they buried him next to the might as well right right t cartridges out in the desert no I don't think it's quite that bad ah but I do think it for people who are really into the sony brand right now and there's a lot of them because whether you love sony or not it's you have to admit that they've been really kicking butt and taking names on the PR front so this is more more good news for them and they didn't even do anything this time that's got showed up now from future game dev should we expect oculus to change anything since facebook bought them well they're saying no but the proof is in the pudding yeah uh early buzz is that Facebook will leave them alone if that's the case then that's awesome yeah i think i'd like to go around the table here I Facebook is not known for being a hardware company you know the the purchase of whatsapp made since the purchase of Instagram made sense purchasing a strike Lee hardware company puzzles me greatly well let me because I might be able to direct this into Todd's wheelhouse a little bit better but facebook has been facebook has been known to take cracks at platforms before didn't they then they run a deal with HTC forever ago where they were trying to get a facebook phone out in the market they've done 3 so that this this to me salsa and the first the salsa the cha-cha was my favorite oh my gosh uh well so they've this isn't their first foray into being platform owners so to speak mm-hmm I think that this is probably their best bet a facebook phone didn't make too much sense but oculus VR is like just about the number one name in virtual realities future right now and Facebook got ahead of the curve by buying them so yeah no II era what do you think Todd do you think that there's that there's a platform desire for them that's why they went after this I don't know I don't it's hard because it sort of the same question is raised when you look at amazon and maybe them creating like this game console to write like why enter it and i think once you have this huge user base in amazon has their prime subscribers and people who own their products and already know how to use them and facebook has all the users and i think they say like well what can we do to keep making money off them to keep moving forward when facebook bought whatsapp one of the one of the analysis because i read was saying basically didn't just buy whatsapp they bought a company but nobody else at it so that everybody was still talking about Facebook right so like what if google had bought oculus and then facebook down the roads like you know we should have done that too or we should have made that kind of move and I think really it's more about Facebook having all of these opportunities now what they do with them I don't know if that ever is gonna matter which is unfortunate but I mean when you look at the purchase price for whatsapp right like how it's going to take them years and years new decades to make that money back so you have to wonder why yeah but we use your base you can kind of do whatever you want so I don't know yeah the two billion purchase price honestly as crazy as it sounds feels to me like a bargain price well you gotta remember that Facebook just gave away facebook shares they only spend 400 million in cash which is that's a lot of it is a lot of money let's not you know mince words here but well for some people hmm mean just my monocle job pulling woman quarter million in the in the grand scheme of Facebook what were they even valued at as an IPO in the billions not millions so small potatoes really III think it's I think it's money well spent in their mind at least at this stage in the game if the platform emerges as awesome as it has the possibility to a lot of people are saying it will facebook how is basically a ticket on that train right now so i think that was money well spent and then it just turns around all of its users yeah right a question from Gabe Lasky can I keyless be an accepted future gaming concept or just a cool gimmick Arzo I don't think until they can get the an attractive product in consumers hands at a reasonable price with compelling software it's not going anywhere it's it's akin to 3d television if the install base needs to be there and the price will dictate the desire for this install base to come aboard so it all depends on that there's like five or six factors that have to merge into one spot in order for this to become the next wave of gaming so I agree with you there but I wouldn't say it's just a gimmick either I like 3d TVs i think her kind of giving you yeah i mean it's a let's not call it a gimmick let's currently in my mind it's a sideshow um there's not it's not a thing yet yeah exactly i have a 3d television i didn't buy it because it was 3d it was just a darn good price on a television I needed and I haven't used it once for 3d yeah I have no desire to now I just the way it is um okay so let's see here we have there's an amazing amount of questions and we want to thank you all for sending those in some of these we very answered here's a good one and let me pull this one up here for so do you think that Sony Morpheus is going to be better so he does have a huge capital spend for those that don't know Sony's project Morpheus is there 3d headset that they're currently working on I think it's less about the capital that they have to spend and more about the developer trust that they've earned over the last two decades sony has for a very long time now had the ability to tract really good third-party developers and publishers and if anything is going to sell project Morpheus it's going to be that and I hate to be cliche but it's going to be that killer app that that that one or two pieces of software that are just balls-to-the-wall amazing that's what's going to be the breadwinner for project Morpheus and will it come maybe could be minecraft now that notch is done with oculus rift he could be with that on project morphus and that could be a big money earner for them so the other day the the three of us were talking I'm not sure we want to say which game it was uh that we were all bored with a certain game okay sure and I just got to think it you know how much cooler that Kate would be if it was Villar yeah Barbie horse adventures for the wii right I talked and I didn't want to reveal what the game was uh yeah I bet let's let's come out of the dark I don't care it was titanfall world we're all horribly bored with tight I'm not whore horribly bored I'm I it's starting to wear thin I think um but that's you know if anyone wants to know about that I guess you can ask in the Q&A but yeah I think uh I could totally see titanfall being a ridiculous experience with VR exactly yeah I was just saying here think I did play a few rounds of titanfall last night before dinner and a it just crossed my mind yo yeah I was saying I was like how this still isn't you know really getting to me but say here thing about was like man this would be awesome I was a mech played a game like Daisy with it like big all right weird like explore and like I don't know a very crazy tight our Skyrim Todd guy around yeah imagine the skyrim in other schools game uh then you fall out whenever that's coming yeah if fallout made used to VR that be unbelievable red dead redemption to shut up you don't look you just have to mention the name I don't want to put it on any platform and I do like yes red dead i'm in you could play it on your your TI 86 plus calculator yeah I'm down let's do it gay you almost all just saw me spit coffee Rockstar announces a new line of games for the ti 86 high school dropouts at all-time highs closely gonna get him you gotta borrow the TAC math class uh here's an interesting question here is Facebook trying to compete with Microsoft and Sony for a piece of the gaming console market it's not a console though it's an add-on well it's it's nothing right now it's nothing facebook facebook could be perceiving it as a new computer monitor of all things you know i don't i don't know how they're perceiving this thing is it is a platform for them is it a console is it just display technology i don't know the facebook would not be smart to get into the console market like that not at all yeah I don't think uh and we've got a question here from a very loyal listener who has kindly treated to me how to pronounce his name let me look over here session Mahal such Sachin Sachin the hall all right finally got me figured it out anyway uh Todd you already spoke to this a little bit but for those that joined light a you've you've used it you know you've explained that when you move forward that things don't move away from you has been the experience with VR in the past now I I think one of the questions I had I never got a chance to ask you did you feel any sort of nausea or anything for music like it does feel weird because like I was in a spaceship in one instance right and like I'm looking around trying to like shoot bad guys and you're flying and there's a lot of movement and you and it really surrounds you so you feel like you're this place but you're not moving i don't know it it's a little nauseating but i think for me the trade-off was just how unreal or real it Phil just being in there when I took it off it was kind of strangest be like now I'm in this room still and I'm just sitting in this cherry blossom in depression said how it's very it's around everything's like you look down and it's your peripheral vision everything it's it's weird and very odd Ron dual or the other other caning right herb and he he's reported to some motion sickness but don't tell Ronis he's got a weak stomach don't tell him I said that though the Wi-Fi mad it a game like titanfall right where there's so much going on your slick I just want to kind of walk around lowdown uh I don't know I've the virtual reality i abused has not caused me motion sickness yet so oh and one last thing real quick to such and happy birthday happy birthday is on Friday ah well this is an interesting question dethie rift will drop because a lot of people lost interest in it no mmm if anything's gonna drop the price in the rift it's gonna be Facebook's backing not but not the Lawson interest that extra equity in capital could let them drop the price a little bit to bring in even more devs for the dev kits otherwise I don't see it going anywhere yet they haven't even like the mass consumer product isn't even ready yet you know there's no need to drop a price so up okay so i think we're reading ayala hey what were the vanilla comments someone mentioned it up so 001 vanillish is a Pokemon he looks like ice cream cone and everyone made fun of me for liking Pokemon so much but Sean and taught both love polka on don't let them lie big liars yes we're big liars okay so guys we've had some innate questions coming in so we're a shift gears back there for a second from Gabe Lasky Todd is the ma truly worth the upgrade for the budget concerned average consumer uh well it's not it's not really a budget phone so I would say no because flagship hi Martha thank you back two more bucks but I mean to be fair if you're upgrading you want like worth the upgrade those words I would say yes it's worth the upgrade I don't know what you're coming from but you consider your signing a two-year contract then you kind of want to get the best on the market right now and I easily put the m8 up there so I don't know you're willing to spend but I think two hundred dollars with a contract is a very good price i hain't contracts so I yeah tell me about we well John I didn't show yesterday we did learn that um Canada has gone rid of its three-year contracts thank goodness that's awful office yeah a phone after two years starts to get a little British man I couldn't imagine keeping it for three it's true ya know like I love what HTC's doing and bringing the software to the m7 last year's model and that's still like a great bonus tell em on my desk right here then it's still beautiful I would still totally be prob with my wife uses one my superior my brother-in-law so many people have it I don't know which what phone is that Todd I missed it the HTC one m7 the risers 10 the better version of mine thanks guys rugged and uh interesting question for Luke Broadway I felt like Zuckerberg had spent facebook's money over the past few years like he's a drunk man in Vegas some called investing but I don't feel like he's bought these companies with plans make them better in any way your thoughts well what companies is he as he bought Instagram whatsapp in oculus and there's been a couple other miscellaneous little ones they don't seem like that purchases to me oculus rift seems like the oddest it's not like he went out and bought draw something for several million dollars that was a mistake like the week after think about that we all just are no was thinking about them right yeah yeah I am told us today they bought it huh a nice move guys see you later um you got so old so quick like we added new words you check out all these colors you can buy for three dollars yeah we got about that yeah I don't think it's been that bad I the one thing that I think is weird as I'm still trying to make heads or tails of how Facebook is making money off of these acquisitions yeah that's big questions especially with whatsapp wait what is the one still puzzles me wait how do they make money off of Instagram a dad's bad partners what adds exactly they're doing a good girl that's a Jay they don't really good job in my head you know even your host we haven't I haven't seen many but they left brands post like you might have michael kors go by and you'll just see like a purse or something and it's kind of they just disguise them i think they're doing a pretty good job as well good for them but I monetizing them is the weirder part than buying them I feel like he's him he is a drunk man on Broadway so to speak or I'm in Vegas to speak but I don't think his purchases are entirely incoherent so you know joy everyone's been saying although integrate ads into games and you know they're actually like that's a horrible thing and what was it last week you and I were discussing our love of crazy taxi yeah man that had some of the best time Crazy Taxi had some of those heavy-handed add integration ever yeah I I mean ads on billboards and games is nothing new I play a lot of sports games and their ads on on the outsides of the arenas and fields and whatever else so it's not going to change if anything Facebook might be might get a little better at tailoring it to you whether or not that appeals to you i'm not sure but crazy taxi soundtracks beloved mm yeah yeah yeah yeah everyone knows if you've ever been near a crazy taxi gave you know that a simple question what are you drinking coffee uh as everyone TechnoBuffalo can the test of my blood type is Colombian one asked I think the TechnoBuffalo count asked what it's like living in Delaware yeah John for lakers asked what it's like living in Delaware on them actually if you comment what is it like living in Delaware well uh dillards pretty awesome man we have really good craft beer I don't know if you guys have ever heard of dogfish head I know Todd probably has a very work oh there's lots of awesome beaches I know you're in California so you like whatever beaches bro I got them but so the way and I'm central to New York DC and philly to so all that plus tax free shopping girlfriend I go out buy something it's the exact price it says on the board kick some ass where we're all situated I'm in a little town called Kirksville Missouri odd I where are you now dirty right across I just left Manhattan you're not too sure this city joey is in Delaware and the majority of everybody else is in irvine california well Ron's in Japan Erickson Minnesota and Jacobs in New York well roughly or spread out yeah we're all I'm everyone thinks I'm the oddball because I have to drive three hours to get to an airport yeah that is weird man I'm 30 minutes from Philadelphia so 30 minutes from three airports yeah that's strange to what newark and a bunch of other places and LaGuardia I'm three hours from two airports you see I think everyone makes fun of Delaware but I'll argue that Kirksville Missouri it's much further away from everything sorry Missouri sir II Barack what the southern Missouri ins say mr. ins Luke those southies down there Ali deal actually there's a canal that cuts the state of Delaware and everyone from below the canal we call them uh people from slower lower but then like people in slower lower just kind of like adopted the phrase as if it were hate speech and so they use it themselves to kind of take some negativity off of the word uh what happened to the console wars they are still going on and I believe episode two is just about done so keep your eyes out for that the console wars do continue we've seen them they saw I saw it yeah it takes a lot of production time to get those does the next one's pretty good so get pumped whoo Oh see well actually here's a question out of the norm and now we'll take it perhaps i'm looking to start a website do you guys have any recommendations on website builders wordpress simplest thing in the world to use wordpress is pretty simple if you've got the money in your kind of a hipster Squarespace is good too i am i've used wordpress to you start my oats pretty easy and then i have tumblr from my own yeah i don't know what you want to do it here say yes when did Squarespace become a hipster spot I don't know man that's just what I think of I think of some guy starting to butcher shop I'm gonna start a website it's called Squarespace i'm also a hipster like I picture I don't know I I can't say that I ever said I'm going home Squarespace hipsters but hipsters John watch yes he's still wrong we're trying to get Q on the show too so outside all right yes yes John junk watch does still live in Toronto how could i forget the queue okay how could you you can't forget the queue um okay let me look here real quick where we are coming to the end of the show does anyone have any final thoughts on the whole oculus situation I'm excited at this point I'm really excited i think someone in the question section said that or in the comments excuse me on youtube said that one of the founders of oculus palmer looky i think his last name is your lucky i'm not sure how it's pronounced said that deb facebook accident acquisition will drop the price of the oculus rift to pretty drastically and this guy Damien proposes maybe ninety nine dollars 250 bucks if that number is for real that'd be awesome I mean a hundred dollars for virtual reality that would be pretty awesome but I don't know if that's a hard time believing that I'm gonna have to for this week's flashbackfriday I'm gonna have to go back and dig up some of the virtual i'm using air quotes here the virtual reality they kept trying to convince us back in the 80s yeah it was amazing what they thought it's so lifelike who yes everybody's arms look like giant blocks don't don't pay attention to that but I you know the thing I I and that's one thing you know coming as the oldest member of the type of Buffalo step and I've seen technology a lot of the technology coming around now from the first day of us around and virtual reality has been a promise for decades and I think we're finally starting to get there but we're still not quite there yeah yeah I don't know I think it's gonna be close i think this is the best chance its had in a very long time and i think it's it's poised to do better than than 3d gaming so I'm interested to see where it goes someone keeps asking what's going on with the oh yeah Garrett long in who knows I mean it's still there's still some interesting games going on the latest bit of news that I heard and this seemed very contradictive to the the model that they proposed the beginning was that there were moving the free-to-play requirement from all games so no longer do devel first have to put out a game that is free to try I'm not sure if that's good news or bad news thing for the platform but that's the last I heard I can't imagine it's doing as well as everyone had hoped it was going to do oh not even close someone wants to know what the name of my beer is I have not named my beard yet I will try to think of the name coolio who my beard Julio the the beard comes and goes so don't get too used to it being around I'm one of those people I can never just despite you know make a definite decision on my facial hair situation but uh alright well anyone have any final thoughts for today uh no of course I know it's Philly Gabe man Todd do you ever do file thoughts no no stay tuned for our HTC One m8 coverage will have the review up soon um that's it for me going up later today we'll also have coverage of the dot cover which is quite interesting actually pretty cool yeah well as always we want to thank you all for joining us and we do appreciate all the questions and all the support for the new show we you know if you have any feedback please feel free to leave it for us you know and if you are by chance on iTunes please feel free to give us a rating and a view that does help the show immensely for this episode I have been shown on am the editor-in-chief TechnoBuffalo I've been joined by executive mobile editor Todd Hazleton hi everyone an executive gaming editor joey davidson thanks for watching guys we'll see you back here next week at the same time same channel until then take it easy bye bye