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and welcome to the eleventh episode of the TechnoBuffalo show online you're two hosts for do today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the TechnoBuffalo and i'm joined by executive editor of mobile Todd Hazleton everybody joey is not with us this week because he is currently trying to sell his house and there is a house showing going on right now and he's in a starbucks so i don't want to spend his entire morning going shut up i'm on a podcast i think a little bit funny it would've been funny but probably we've gone through an asteroid ikea uh i think even starbucks as a level of okay sir you know I sleep when they're with full computers I think a microphone I look natural have you you've seen someone in there with a desktop yeah well it was us when I was at laptop magazine used to do funny stuff like that for like pictures and you know like how far is too far you're using a computer in public and then he would like take a picture for the magazine but I've seen people with full-size martyrs and stuff oh that's that's amazing ah so a couple different topics we want to go over today the first one is of course the big news of the week the microsoft surface pro 3 and tons as you were there a person you you've touched and held a surface pro you know was it as exciting as they were making it up to be on stage i mean i think it was really exciting in a really nice product like don't get me wrong on all that i think it's the best surface I've seen Microsoft make yet and that's saying a lot fun it's the same recipe that they dawn will pass two iterations and I don't see anything really changing here where consumers may be like oh now i need a surface like it's still expensive at seven ninety-nine with core i3 and no keyboard that's another one hundred thirty dollars and like i said in an editorial yesterday now you're in macbook air range which microsoft clearly i mean they want to go on against the macbook air but i don't think you're doing it right like this is it's a tablet with a keyboard it's not a laptop and that's what what they're trying to say that it is a laptop look like me i want laptop it's like rigid and I and I have it with the keyboard it's a really sturdy on my lap and Microsoft's trying to say this is with the view maggots and stuff but it's still not even close and then and then it's like a 12 inch tablet which is too big for me and they said ninety-six percent of people with an iPad also have a laptop and it's for that reason I want my ipad mini and my macbook or whatever mm-hmm I don't want like the combo and I don't think consumers in general do mean let's just sales have proven that so well hey there is a surface man well you know and you were you said it's a a tablet with a keyboard but I think we also need to point out that it's the tablet is sold separately for 129 99 akhil back yeah so that's a price you're paying on top of the surface just going to drive that price even higher now I I do what I tease this yesterday on Twitter I I have to debut my a new word first there were phablets would you get home tablet this is al applet the laptop tablet I know it's exciting I might hold your applause everyone la they kept saying it in the lap ability ability that sounds like like a dog lapping up water or something I apparently that's my puppy Thomas who is possibly the loudest drinking dog I've ever met but his lap ability factor is way up there huge but that's the whole point and the fact is yes they oh well we start the price at seven ninety nine and seven ninety-nine for a core i3 with only 64 gigabytes of memory yeah exactly and I have said that yesterday core i3 is not that powerful and even Intel builders like this entry level processor in the core family below core i5 and core i7 that's made for web browsing and word processing and stuff like that I Ron core i3 on my desktop it is not not powerful I have a really nice graphics card for gaming and that helps a little bit but that's about it like I really can't do much and and I think most people will find that at core i3 is not they're doing much put it eight hundred dollars where you can get keyboard I don't think I think it's way overpriced and I think that will see that Microsoft sales and surface have haven't been doing well and I think it'll continue that way which is weird I can any weather going down this path again exactly and I mean we have to remember that two years ago they lost 1 billion dollars if they took a 1 billion right off on the original surface don't have the final numbers for the surface too although we know they were not good we know they took a loss at what point does Microsoft say okay this isn't working yeah and maybe they never do maybe they think this is the future and there is gonna keep pushing it but I think I would have liked to have seen Microsoft look if they know that people have tablets and computers why not create a product that fits the tablet category and and that could have been the surface mini and I don't think look rumors were it was going to have a fall compras certain windows RT I don't think that was a right path to go either because Windows RT i think is a terrible experience I don't think there's enough apps etc but I think it could have tried to do something pro maybe put a core i3 one of the smaller ones or any Intel Atom processors say price it right maybe just above kindle put it in the 200 allah range three hundred dollar range then microsoft has this mass consumer tablet that people aren't going to be afraid to buy as it's cheap they'll finally get an experience with Windows that they haven't been using if you before and maybe it's this complementary system that can be used with your kool Windows 8 PC I think that's the way it should've won instead of this hybrid product well you kind of answered without me putting the question up there yet but David kerkovich was asking what does Microsoft need to do to make the surface successful and I I think you everything I agree with everything you said Todd it's I can't understand why Microsoft can't seem to grasp you know I like you said with a laptop you know I want stability and I don't care what they say about magnets or anything else that thin little keyboard is never going to give me the stability where I feel comfortable working with that thing in my lap yeah you know if you watch during the demonstra yesterday at least on the livestream I'm sure we had a better view than you did you could tell he was so nervous about how he was sitting know her that that thing did not fall off his lap yeah it's just weird I mean why do you have to worry about a kickstand and I know that look they need the kickstand for when it's in tablet mode but why worry about this kickstand and the keyboard and you have to get the bend the keyboard up so the magnets it you know just below the displaced a lot of work right and and when I have a macbook I just or whatever any kind of life that just open it up you start working then you close it and on the subway home I reach in my bag and I pull out my iPad and it's small and portable it's not this 12-inch thing on my lap and I think that's why people have two devices and I understand by Microsoft is fighting so hard to make us have this combo tonight I don't get it either I don't give a like I don't think ence Microsoft I think people like this is just my opinion and I'm not saying an ego yeah people were gonna like it sure well you know I sleep and I I want to make that clear as well I mean I honestly right now in front of me I'm not going to hold it up since this is also mainly an audio podcast I i use a Microsoft natural keyboard I use a microsoft mouse I own every iteration of the xbox I this is not a hatred of Microsoft this is just a question of what the heck they're doing yeah you know and we are going to review the surface pro 3 and it's not going to be toddler myself it's should be arriving out in the urban offices today and I believe Brandon and jon rettinger will be handling the review on that device but you know so please don't take anything that Todd and I are saying today is we've already determined hey and locally I'm talking about Microsoft strategy doesn't mean yeah I'm not saying the product itself is bad mmm maybe it's great i used it for briefly before i put it in mail John I just think the strategy yeah dominique weber was asking if we did get a surface at the event we did we immediately rupted in a box and overnighted it to John an Irvine so John will be filming videos with it I believe today doing hands-on and all that so yes we do have a surface in our possession and it will be showing up on the site shortly and then probably late next week we'll get to the review because like unlike other sites that believe in a 24-hour review period we actually like to use products are a few days yeah and so everybody knows it so we got a core i5 version which is mid-range cool so that's what okay I didn't know which version we'd yeah I it's actually funny they gave us the devices they just handed us the tablet and the stylus and the keyboard he's handed it to us right and then on the way out you got the box and the charger so you had to like sign yeah they gave us that at the end did you have to sign the loan agreement I guess that's how they were managing it and then I checked them so i was able to check the box on the way out that's very solid are you dead but here's my question why not just had you a boxed product yeah with like this jeans and stuff right there i don't know maybe they didn't want like boxes floating all over there I can't believe that when you told me that that they handed you this thing at pieces is like you hear me I pay the labor to assemble this package for yeah it's kind of fun we'll just and aegean parts and yeah so do it yourself DIY surface attach the keyboard well you know I and you brought this up a little bit already I thought it was so odd that they decided to you know they brought out that scale and all that and they made a big show about let's weigh it against the macbook air at the core these are two very very different products this was literally comparing apples and oranges us yeah it would have made a lot more sense to me if they had brought out an iPad yes I understand they were trying to say well this is a laptop replacement all right fight weight against a macbook air then weigh it against an eye had as well show us both because you're trying to say that this replaces both stacked both of the ipad and the hair on one side and then stack the surface yeah good point just weighing the surface against the macbook air of me no sense yeah and I I think I know what they were trying to say to like it's the thinnest core product then it's probably you could buy with an intel core processor which is me and it's really nice and really high quality the building stuff just I don't know I don't wives comparing it to apple I thing and you know people are going to do that now and they're going to see that you know first single price you can get a macbook air configure it in such a such way I think at both the high ends with core i7 the macbook air is still like 200 bucks cheaper so always that like speaking of medical care you know since this is what Microsoft decided to take on yesterday you know now we're hearing rumors that we are going to see the new macbook airs at WWDC do you think it's just going to be the addition of a display or that seems cool it's a 9to5 mac today said that there's going to be you hardware at the show and I don't know Apple has promised us new product category this year and a lot of people have been sitting around waiting saying hey this is gonna happen and we're kind of waiting on an Apple TV refresh may be waiting on an iWatch what you got a number of things but it sounds like macbook air with retina display seems the most likely their apples going to be talking about OS x 10 10 might as well introducing with a new laptop tight so macbook air retina display that would be sweet I hope I mean price is going to go up and I think right now that 799 is pretty sweet a lot of consumers bolt yeah yeah the UH you know I am a little concerned about Apple though while we're here you know Tim Cook has gone on record vehemently saying that you know Apple had all these amazing new product signed up for 2014 and he specifically said plural new categories and here we are going into June and nothing yeah I mean me we're waiting oh yeah yeah I mean all right all right is he seriously going to release everything pre-christmas I don't know wouldn't that be crazy let's talk about killer quarter well it'd be a killer quarter but it would also be cannibalizing his own products because if you release everything at the same time because remember at one time we had figured out a that they were working on a quarterly system and they seem to have abandoned that they were trying to released one major product every quarter said that they always had a flagship product for each quarter to help with their revenues they seem to have abandon that and gone almost to this let's put all our eggs in the fourth quarter basket yeah it's starting to seem like right you said I don't remember last year but yeah I mean I think there's going to be a lot of disappointment if wewt comes and goes if there's just software clock I think a lot of people really want to see something new and tangible come out of Apple well do you think it's III think this may be part of the problem is that when they had the ipad and the iphone out of sync that always meant one of them was behind on iOS yeah and like in features right like we have the iphone 5s now with the fingerprint reader touch ID and we don't have yet on the back that's tough yeah so they were even more out of sync though and the problem is now that they've tried to make this this family look to all of them if they released an iPad before the iphone that would give us a hint to the next iphone right so they kind of painted themselves into a corner and that they had to put the those products together but you know we've been hearing all the rumors about the Apple TV we've been hearing all the rumors about the iWatch forever you know you hear rumors about the apple television set by ain't at this point i-i've almost given up on that one but the the iWatch is I mean they've hired too many people in that sector for that not to be a real product and you have to wonder when it's coming yeah I know and like I said before it seems like wwc would make sense because they have all the developers in the room they have all these workshops I was going over the schedule all these workshops throughout the week where and right now it's sort of just less like we can't tell you yet and follow-up are the names for each workshop and you know I think those would be perfect times you get developers right there figuring out how to create stuff for the eyewash so they want you to sign up for these workshops but you don't know well like I have the schedule right here it's funny it has great up real quick because this morning this app was updated that's where we saw that the keynote takes off in am on to second so you have stuff like tuesday at 9am called this one is sealed where she can't tell you yet or it's under wraps to be announced and announced still our secret that's Wednesday at ten-fifteen you'll find out in a few days it's still confidential we're not telling so it's all like these different names for the events during ww see because obviously it's gonna be good all that's awesome me yeah that's how I want to schedule my trip yeah I don't even know when I'm participating I am milk oh yeah wait why is tim cook on stage with crochet needles what's going on I mean with with a full revamp look in OS 10 and you know it is expected or whatever then maybe a part of it has to do with bad in hand getting actual desktop apps to look familiar I don't know so there's going to be a lot of reasons why their sessions in our game but maybe some could do with the iWatch were developing for Apple TV stuff like that speaking of Apple secrecy since you brought up what those sessions are called Dominique webber asks i know this is highly unlikely but how clever would it be if Apple pushed the dummy units out there to get a reaction before the official launch this if you could alter but this is actually the theory that kind of started last year with the 5s and 5c leaks they were everywhere they were everywhere and there are times where you kinda have to wonder because I we know for a fact that some companies and we won't say who have done controlled leaks in the past mm-hmm now Apple when you think of Apple you don't think oh they have to drum up you know coverage and everything else but you do have to wonder sometimes if a they're trying to get feedback on what they're doing be potential misdirection that one would be difficult but this one almost feels like a misdirection you think you think they're purposely like like 47 then are no it's weird how would I can't tell i was like maybe what if somebody just like me these schematics and i sent them out there then everybody is building off it I don't know though that's exactly because all these dummy units are built off of those schematics and we still don't know the provenance of those schematics yeah be really funny I mean Apple right now I mean Tim Cook maybe in his office just cackling yeah remember when the company case made and I think a few others but they had all these cases that they look like closing on their site and stuff the teardrop yeah and like those were based off of schematics two and those were wrong so it's happened before it just seems like this time the free detailed yeah I know and looks about right it looks about right you know but there's still a part of me and maybe it's a hopeful part of me that would like to still be surprised but I in my gut I feel this really is the iphone 6 but at the same time i try to be at least a little bit skeptical yeah everything comes from these schematics that we cannot prove where they came from yeah exactly let me we should always be skippin yeah I we always have to be skeptical in this game I mean we got sent a link to something yesterday that Todd I Damon share it with you I was like I was like yeah no homo SAP now not real something funny yeah it was one of those ones were you looking like mm-hmm that's not right yeah contrary to popular belief we do actually no try to determine what's real what's not and there there are there are times where some come through the drill like wow no yeah for those that joined light I see rockster 103 asses joey is working today but unfortunately is working from a starbucks because there is a real estate agent currently in his house showing his house and so that's why he's not on the show he could not podcast from starbucks he will be back though now i wanted to i want to talk about this one topic it's outside of our normal field on the show the idea that Google wants to run advertising on the nest thermostats crazy I wow so like but this like this this article came from a wall street journal today it's talking about Google they're writing to the SEC I guess right I think that's it was um and saying like look we want to put that or there's a possibility that you're going to end up on wearables bars on thermostats and the funny thing is I think this is before they bought yes right absolutely well okay now here here's my I've got a couple main questions here just because well first off because they said you know maybe thermostats doesn't mean they're necessarily gonna do it right I want to know though who would purchase that advertising space because how many times a week do you actually look at your thermostat yeah and all right but who knows maybe maybe it's like her a competing power company or something not usually live in areas if you have to but yeah I only have one option here so I think I think yeah I think the general idea is that look there's going to be screens everywhere and we can make money off that now I mean I could see kids there are some refrigerators with screens and I'm advertising there makes sense to me yeah that does make sense I mean especially if it's a grocery store saying what's on sale exactly yope show me you know the the late the weekly flyer for you know the specials at the safeway for the week I I think that's a great idea yeah and as we have smart frigerators you know it might know what's running low maybe you're running low on Pepsi it's like kept cheese on sale might as well pick some up now exactly that kind of stuff that one would make a lot of sense to me and I actually don't think I would find it that offensive yeah when you're like oh okay you see it's kind of a win-win situation you know it's kind of like I I see a lot of people saying you know I don't want to ever buy a kindle with special deals on it yeah I every kindle device i bought is with special deals i gotta tell you they are the most unobtrusive things in the world are the good deals i've never really pay attention to them they never seem to be with you yeah when the Kendall's first lunch with special deals they were I mean it would be like get a ten dollar amazon gift card for five dollars but now it's a lot of like yo saved their descends on downey yeah but but you know there are places where I don't find our advertising offensive and I would not find advertising offensive on an LCD screen in my refrigerator on my thermostat I would just question who thought it was a good idea to buy that advertising space yeah right well yeah I know well if it's like sitting on your wall and glowing like oh jeez oh now I I will admit my thermostat is behind a swinging door so I don't see my thermostat except for when I'm cleaning the dust bunnies that I've collected behind the door yeah see I don't even have a thermostat as we go unit in my windows are building nah I'm the joys of apartment living yeah uh like I say that like I've ever lived in an apartment I actually have never lived in an apartment oh yeah it's not it's not really I take that back i lived in an apartment all of six months old but no memories of it not really had a choice in you yeah exactly you mean you can't just buy a house no you could you buy a brownstone group 10 million dollars Oh with what John pays us by doable why not uh well Before we jump into general questions here let me see if we've got anything that is well here is one from rockster 103 how accurate do you think the dummy units at the apple iphone 6 are to the real one we and we already kind of answered that I and I really do feel it's the real thing there's a lot of me though that I just I wish it wasn't the real thing because I miss being surprised yeah me too and part of me feels like it's kind of ugly and not up to Johnny high standards that's what I've got a like and can't tell you like the antenna bands running around really the antenna bands they are the key reason that I still question it yeah it just doesn't look like something he'd let slide so maybe there's another way that you know we're not seeing this in the schematics that that's for the cover girl and you know the schematics aren't built with aluminum and the real materials at Apple's using so you see I have no problem with all of us as being unapologetically plastic but I do have a problem Jenna be unapologetically giant into Ben's that was my really bad Johnny I've impersonations please do not throw tomatoes apologetically antennas uh-oh let's see here a job we got one from going into general questions we got one here from Rockstar 103 and this is one I you and I really haven't had a chance to discuss you know what are your thoughts on the HTC One Prime in the Samsung s5 prime um look I don't really like the way that these products kind of come out after the fact like I think Samsung fans and smartphone enthusiasts are going out and buying these products that they think are the best and they're going to be the best for a while and for a company like Samsung to come around and say hey actually that's not the best this is it's kind of rude and mean to consumers so I think if there really is a samsung s5 Prime and that's the way they market it then they should have just made that the galaxy massage that's my no I I totally agree with you it's cell phone enthusiasts are you know it's not like we can just okay well i just got the s5 but oh no the s5 prime is here i'm sorry you can't just swap phones when you're a general consumer it's just not possible yeah and so I can't quite figure out what the marketing plan is behind these companies doing this you know why not release the s5 and the s5 Prime at the same time yeah you know the s5 becomes a slightly budget II phone and I say that by likes you know it's $52 love us in the prime you know and that would actually drive I think drive sales harder for the prime yeah people can make their own choice the thing with these I'll see one prime I talked to Jason Mackenzie US president of HTC and he kind of mocked like look what you're not going to see a one hand made Prime in the sense that there's not going to be this better version of that form and what the HTC one problem it seems like that's going to be either the max 2 or yesterday and gadget had a picture of the One m8 and reference that that might be the Prime and that's the one mA it's the plastic body to the metal in which case you know it's not like there creating something and making any better they actually the screws yeah I from the pictures we've seen of the m8 Prime it doesn't feel like it's a better phone it but the s5 Prime does look like yeah like it's going to be more premium mm-hmm and sort of problem so yeah I mean with with HTC One I we need to see the specs before we you know say what are you doing because it may just be a naming issue but with the s5 Prime everything we're seeing it really does feel like it's a better version of the s5 yeah but maybe you know maybe comes out it's like super expensive and limited like a couple markets and then okay that's not that big either but if it comes out and it's sold on every carrier as like this better version of yes by this time now i agree to it they need to do something so your average customer do just by an S 5 doesn't feel like they've made a mistake yeah exactly otherwise why should they buy your next phone yeah exactly exactly another question from Rockstar 103 do you think Google glass might become a mainstream product in the future nope yeah no I think so really i don't know if it's going to be popular but that's google's plan is to bring it well no yes it will definitely it'll come to consumer markets I don't think we'll ever see a day though where you're walking down the street and ill everybody he's not wearing Google glass haha yes actually not in its current form right but maybe if it's like well they could make it that'll be more fun and they actually just tired Ivy Ross was a Ivy Ross she was an executive at we bring up we had an article longer well I'm gonna say if they can make it look like the range finders from dragon ball z I might be more on board and I tell me everyone's power levels I looked at them she was brought on to lead a google glass and she's former chief marketing officer artcom but she also worked at and this is this is a sign that we're going to go mainstream because of google why we're did old navy the disney store coach gap Mattel and even bosch and lomb the eye health company contact solution stuff like that so I think look you get somebody with that kind of experience on board it seems pretty clear that who you're targeting right letting this person will for cavities Oscars well I part of what i think is going to happen I I almost think that some point it's kind of go the way of the segway and that you know you go to airports nisi segways everywhere we haven't cops have them on their signals hey I could be cops real I emergency responders I could see them very easily just taking the glass like crazy um I read a story oh I don't remember it was a few months ago about a fireman who actually worked on a glass app that allowed his fire department to they could wear the glass under their their masks and they could pull up blueprints for buildings from the city on the glass when they were going off that's awesome brilliant absolutely brilliant I think that's the sort of situation that glass is absolutely perfect for and so I don't were like showing like oxygen holes oh yeah there's all sorts of uses for an emergency when when your hands have to be free this is perfect yeah but for your average consumer I just I don't know if they're gonna take to it yeah I'm curious too yeah but I mean I mean weren't google last for like a couple minutes yeah yeah my grandfather was a fire captain in Phoenix in the 70s and a oh I i I'm somewhat familiar with fire procedures and I can I can think of an endless stream of uses for fire departments you know cops you know somebody says their name to you and you could pull up their arrest record or their warrants yeah you know it could be amazing so glass is going to be around for a long time I just don't know how deep it's going to get into the the general public that's where I I wonder yeah uh the this just makes me scratch my head ah firm vassal Stefan off would you buy a smart couch if someone makes it what would be more cash I I that's more I I'm just kind of trying to how would you make a couch smart I don't know this one it is sure I better not a room couch map mode yeah couch turn on the TV no because you can already do that with your xbox right exactly oh my ah let's see here uh from David Nunez true false the z1 compact comes to the United States mike geary bike Barry gets bought out this year Apple goes back to their One flagship phone model and kills iphone see line technoboy will hire simply and in kb HD with had one hears time wow great man see you want a compact i don't think there's any us plans blackberry gets bought don't see it happening this year apple goes back to the one flagship phone model I don't know look if they killed if I see fine but I think you're supposed to have a 55 inch iphone 6 to you that maybe HD that's up to John I don't think about the discussions right now oh good grief from Rockstar 103 I never got to see this product at see us but I know a bunch of you were going nuts over it we have seen the Smart Touch mirror at CES but do you think it might become a successful product was that is that the toshiba thing yeah I I think John went over looked at like four times yeah that was me wouldn't that be cool the thing is I mean I think it would be neat if you had it like your bathroom II saw the weather and stuff but what it costs really want to plug in your mirror I don't know I could see high-end hotels exactly in the places where you already see TVs in the mirrors and stuff like that like you know their sports bars that have like the soccer matches football during ipod behind me behind the glass so maybe help you japan has some of the weirdest technology and bathrooms and I the first time I stayed at this particular hotel I got out of the shower of the first night I looked at my mirror and wondered why there was a perfect round circle of no steam on my mirror where and I i just touched a little bit there was a heating element it was guessing he that's awesome yeah there is a heating element that kept the circle of the mirror steam free I was like see that's useful thats whats going to school it was it was useful but it was so there's like a washcloth it was so hot yeah so I mean yeah i could see like hotels yo high end hotels jumping all over that but for a mass consumer product no i think that's that's one thing we see a lot of products that are awesome and they appeal to people like us or you know the viewers of the show but there's so many times where I I just sit back and go did you talk to any regular consumers yeah yeah and I think a lot of it's like proof of concept we can do it so we did it we brought it to CES and check it out this is good yeah yeah it's I don't know from rockster 103 do you think the concept of dual camera will catch on in the future I don't know I mean these days I feel like people want the megapixels and I know that you know larger pixels in the sensor brings him a lot more lighting yep better low-light photos and stuff like that but the duo core like we're actually kind of moving around an object and like there's neat effects and you can blur the background stuff like I think I don't want to call it a gimmick but it's not I don't think it's a mainstream thing that consumers are sort of clamoring for but I think it's cool car than one m8 and I think Zoe's are cool part of another one ND and the one m7 for that matter but I don't know that it's you know something it tumors are like I need this from David berkovich should vanillish replace Pikachu is the mascot for Pokemon yes Yeah right you got a hoe c'mon joking exactly even if Joey's not here we saw before my joke so yes vanilla should become the new logo of pokemon that's just the way it is uh here's a question from Sasha Mahal I always like to throw in a little bit of behind-the-scenes stuff as well hey sean how does your role at technobuffalo differ from John's role you are editor in chief and he is present some websites have just an editor in chief also if I'm the only one a part of my own blog what title should give myself okay well as for how John's and my jobs differ John focuses more on the business aspects of things like negotiating the advertising contracts working on any sort of sponsorship deals and just in general making sure that money is rolling in so that we all get a paycheck which we all appreciate ah and then as for my role I yes I'm technically editor-in-chief I every post central air traffic controller is probably a better term for me yeah because I not only do I manage you know what's being written but I also handle a lot of the scheduling deciding of which post go at what time slots I also keep track of where everybody is physically at all times which I'm sure I'm sure my employees rather I'm not constantly where are you going how long we be what are you doing then I also which is a very odd thing for an editor-in-chief to do but I don't mind doing I actually kind of enjoy I deal a lot with the development and servers and making sure that everything is working as its supposed to and so I do a lot of different things if you're the only one running the site editor in chief okay yeah it's a title everybody understands let's see if it happens on technobuffalo Sean knows about it I try to agent even with even when i'm on vacation the United Kingdom and I call in to the staff call just about your minds happy now they're leading I just happened to be in my room change you need to go out to dinner I was like I'm totally calling it to the staff call their minds ding you can't talk about me when I'm solely from Brantley Jensen do you think flappy bird will be as popular rank comes back in August I never played the thing I did a stupid I think he was stupid for killing I don't know maybe it will be popular because people are like well flappy birds back but I think in the first place like it was popular because what BuzzFeed an article on it or something there yeah the thing we did was on it been on the app store for like 11 months yeah viral and so yeah I mean that's the funny thing everyone thinks this is an overnight sensation sensation no it was on the app store for ages I think that when it first comes back there will be a massive mad downloads because you know this aura has built around it yeah and then I think everyone's gonna go well that was fun for 10 seconds yeah and that was I mean look the first one was not like I can't believe the guy that create it was like it's too addicting you know I should stop playing this game what it wasn't addictive it was like really stupid and boring no what's too addictive and I will sunday beat Joey for introducing me to it this please yeah that's a good game oh that guy has owned my life okay well I just developers like I got it I'm gonna take it down because people are getting too addicted to it bought us like a new one has a cool down feature something like come on man seriously I think where people were playing in on the subway for like five minutes I don't know just cuz people are talking but it doesn't mean they're like losing their lives yeah I don't get what happened with flappy bird at all but yeah they'll be like you know a car wreck mentality when it comes back here you're gonna slow down Oh what's going on over there and you're going to try it and then you're going to go I'm done yeah yeah so wha there's a lot better games like it well Todd and Joey I've got me hooked on her stone now so yeah that's a good game I'm enjoying it I'm enjoying it it's it's not horribly addicting but you're eight I will say this for a free to play game I have felt no compunction to buy cards yeah exactly look you don't feel like oh crap I gotta spend a dollar here dollar five dollars there because you heard how do you earn the money bags you can oh by like doing completing quests yeah yeah when you 20 or 100 tokens you get a pack of cards yeah which is cool yeah I've felt zero need like oh I'm being beaten I need to go buy a pack of cards no yeah so hey uh well we are at 45 minutes so we need to be heading out of here on let me see real quick if there's any alright rockster has asked us for two weeks and so I feel like we should fight where do you see Apple in 2020 I have no idea six years from now wall alright let's see iphone 6 6 yeah 10 and they called the iphone x no I I think we'll be up like I phone 8s 8's or something like that I alright yeah cuz yeah I forgot about the iteration here's my question will there ever be an OS 11 I don't know how long are we going hold on to the OS 10 name yeah I don't know where Apple will be I think look this year is going to be I was telling enough for to see what's coming here that really see anything yet I want to see new products yeah take her up one last question from Dominique Weber what can we expect from a new office that John was talking about in one video you'll have to wait he yeah it's a lot big drugging what a lot bigger I'll say that but it I I haven't seen it neither totter I obscene the office in person yet we we know where it is it's not too far from our current office but it's a lot lot bigger sad but it things go find up or towards the fall so yeah I was meeting while we're still alive and happy KAC 2539 yeah alrighty well I believe that will wrap it up for this week as always we appreciate you joining us and if you can head over to 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