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and welcome to the 16th episode of the techni Buffalo show I'm live your to host for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined by executive editor mobile Todd Hazleton hey everybody yes no Joey this week he's on vacation but to be fair next week there will be no Todd because he'll be on vacation yeah that's right that's um a year it's that time here except for me I you know I wait till November yeah when it's cool and you go to cold places you know the funny thing is England which I've gone to for the past three years is actually warmer than kirksville wow that's pretty I said it'll be like in the 20s here and when i get to manchester i'll be like 52 no I mean yeah I get Stan into like the high 30s at night that's warmer than Missouri for whatever odd reason so with even without Joey we have several things we want to go over first half Todd I would like to start showing you pictures of sad puppies and see how this affects your emotional state facebook yeah I know that wasn't on the show notes but the more i think about that they have to talk about yeah i'll turn on my little logo down there yeah that's crazy so facebook published a report in a journal that they were tooling with the emotions of their users in a way that so like some users would see i think was like six hundred eighty thousand users right so some would see primarily posts that were negative feeling and the others would see positive and then what they found was that they can actually change the emotions of their users by showing them different types of posts now that seems kind of obvious right like if you're watching a sad movie you might be sad you're watching a comedy you might be happy but i think the big question is did facebook invade our privacy or you know that protected however we're protected online and now one of the UK regulators independent regular said today that they're going to investigate facebook to see if they broke those laws and the facebook faces of fine I think of like 500,000 pounds which is less risk for facebook like we said the article but they could also force facebook to change policies which I think would be wise I mean obviously everybody's doing a/b testing that's what facebook does on a daily basis see what their users are doing how they're interacting with this site I mean you'll see a lot of big news sites we don't do it so much but big news sites will have like two headlines and they'll see which ones more attractive depending on the demographic and stuff so that kind of testing I feel like is fair game but this whole like psychological like they're actually tooling with people's emotions making people sad by showing sad content that's kind of weird well there are times where we send out one headline to the actual site and we send out a different headline to Google right right that's not an emotional test in there is the I I've grown up around psychologists and I have psychologists friends and this has to be about the most unethical test I have ever heard of in my life right yeah it's crazy yeah I can't believe you I mean and it's public to like they're not keeping a secret they actually published the results in a general but I love how they're like we don't see a problem with this you know it's one of those things we're like you start to wonder like I don't like honestly I'm not worried about my privacy on facebook whatever but I'm just like wow there's it's just a company that's doing that I don't really want to use that service and it reminds me of a rumors is a rumor I heard but I forget who told me the Foursquare CEO dennis crowley apparently copied a bib for the Boston Marathon this year a bib number that was somebody else is just so we could run in the race and knowing that the CEO of a company that i use did that I was like wow I really don't want to use foursquare anymore like that's such a terrible move so like that's what bothers me that people think they can get away with this kind of stuff I i I'm I'm befuddled I am completely befuddled but I I had to address that it's been bothering me all week I I don't use Facebook that much you know so I really can't tell you you know if I was involved in the test or not because most of the time my you know timeline is filled with old high school friends going hey what's everyone done yeah yeah see I use it more when the news feed was in order of most recent and now it's just sort of the way Facebook's playing with this like they're just throwing the most popular one so it thinks you're gonna want to read and that's not how I operate well you know what's for my personal blog that was actually I published my full post to my facebook page and that was actually how jon rettinger kept up with my blog and now under this new system he can't remember the last time he saw one of my posts and we both thought that you know there should be a way for him to mark I want to see these right you know and there's not you know Facebook is what's important to you and that happens with fan pages to like if you like TechnoBuffalo that doesn't mean you're gonna see our posts unfortunately it's like it'll populate but it doesn't mean that they're always going to be right in front of you because it is their algorithms which is why exactly so we did have some topics we wanted to get to this weekend and I wanted to sidetrack there for a minute so galaxy s5 mini was announced this week who what do you think is the reason that the companies have decided you know why not call it something else why call yeah I can see them well I've talked to when like some of the presence of HTC for example the president Jason Mackenzie had explained once that one of the reasons they have these many devices is to fill out the families so like you someone goes in and store if they're not gonna for whatever reason the HTC One m8 screen is too big but they still want like a premium product of one that matches that family then they go with the smaller one which is often more affordable they put slightly lower clock speed processors and stuff like that inside of them so that was the explanation I've had and then they usually have like in the case of HTC they another family of devices for the mid-tier so like in that case its desire for that even lower price points and so I think that's what Samsung's doing here and also in a lot of the in the talks I've had with other journalists you I know there's a demand for bones with like 4.5 4.7 inch screens so I think Samson is also meeting that market and probably giving everybody the options across the board which i think is good and I think it's great that they kept things like the heart rate monitor and the fingerprint reader and all of that so it's not really a huge sacrifice ip67 resisting its water and dust well the thing with the seemed to me the mini name doesn't say like budget to me it's right if it's someone those walking in it would make me think I'm getting less for my money hmm yeah which is true in some cases in terms of like the processor in storage in law cases but I don't know um I do know that they try to like keep that name the galaxy s5 in these products and then just sell like a smaller version too so that people who don't buy the five have that other option right a me and with the galaxy s5 a especially with the galaxy s4 it was definitely a fact that it was a family because you had the zoom the act of the many and the galaxy s4 itself and in the same track is happening what they call the active for the s5 what was the sum they called it the active again but they didn't a sprint has a different version I remember that that's right I'm staying at the sprint version yes so I can understand I just the whole concept of the mini phone I and I again I understand word we're different creatures were not your average consumer you know whenever they come out with a product and they say yo starts at this price we all immediately go okay now how much is it going to cost for our version right and we're going to maxs everything out right 32 gigs of storage version yeah it's just usually I mean you look at it's usually like a hundred bucks more for whatever reason even though story is dirty for these companies well especially like you we keep talking about project ara yeah they're like oh the frame will be fifty dollars over like yeah and how much are we going to spend on my lap and everything else I want yeah right right left right we're going to buy the best camera we're gonna buy the largest memory capacity we're gonna buy the best processor yep it's true end up being a thousand-dollar phone right yeah I don't know and then yeah it will be expensive yeah it'll be nuts I mean you look at what we're talking about even with the iphone 6 rumors in the 5.5 inch screen that's apparently going to be a hundred dollars more but that makes sense right because the display is the most expensive component typically and I think Apple was going to add other standout features like the optical image stabilization OIS and stuff like that so so we have a question here from plays Flame do you think the quote mini unquote phones released by Samsung HTC etc with their four and a half inch screens has had an impact on iphone users with their 3.5 or four inch screens yeah certainly I think that's I think a huge impact to the point where Apple was addressing it now with the rumored 4.7 inch iphone to sort of you know come back and answer these 4.5 inch in 4.7 inch screens because I think HTC Samsung LG have all done a really really good job motorola especially with the Moto X showing that you can have a 4.5 inch 4.7 inch screen that's not too big for users who still think five inch screens are big and they are out there like I'm pretty used to a 5-inch screen these days but I still go out with friends and they're like what are you carrying a tablet you know because I deal with it every day to me it doesn't seem so big but so yeah there you go galaxy mega was at 63 yep the 6-3 yeah so yeah so I think they have had an impact for sure on out and of course that you know the question falls when can I get a galaxy w yeah so big though I mean even the the what-is-it Lumia 1520 with the 6 inch screen I feel really weird holding that up to my head damn but I mean likely I'm a giant so I mean yeah you look at the 6.3 my hand it doesn't i have anything really nothing i don't think i have anything that big floating around yeah I mean am I and for those of you listening on audio i'm holding the 6.3 and i i'm i'm still it's normal yeah I'm six foot four Sammy it looks like a normal-size phone it does now they're do kill my hand with I don't know and I forgot to turn off my air conditioner so excuse me for just one moment Todd while you talk about mini phones hahaha hey everybody I'm just here talking about mini fun maybe you'll open up that curtain today huh anyway so I guess what shawne's getting on about and we're getting back to the answer there was these mini phones and can they take are they an answer in an impact on the iphone and i think absolutely they are and that's why we're going to see Apple boosted yet again because it already they already moved up to 4 inches and now we're going to go to 47 which i think is the right move and now you know with the screen technology and parts getting smaller than ever you can actually have those nice big displays and like Moto X showed us without that too much bulk in your hands that's uh was that Christopher miles questioning your answering tub yeah I was just going back to that okay no problem well I should know this is the question for cursor miles with the iphone probably going to at least 4.7 inches do you think android vendors will try to seriously address the sub 5 inch market that's an interesting question because they've all been going to the phablet size is there a chance that they're going to try to come back under 5 inches to compete with this um yes i think will always see that and that's what we see with the s5 mini the one mini i think they're going to continually hit that market yeah i mean i don't think anything's going to change in that port I think it's actually Apple answering to these android devices rather than android and answering Apple especially if you look at the market share globally it's it's going to continue to be that way I think well Christopher miles has a follow-up question that is definitely fitting do you think other OEMs will follow Sony's lead with the z1 compact rock like level smaller phone I really hope so but from what I've heard when I talked to companies there's no interest in doing that so I don't think it's gonna happen why not though I know I think it's a great idea i'd love that Sony did that I think a lot of people did it got great press and yet people I mean nobody else has done this and we unlike with HTC for example a lot of times before the one mini came out last year we really thought that they were gonna sort of beef that up and and it didn't happen and this of course didn't happen this year which is wild because what they do then is launched bigger phablets with all this hardware and I think a lot of people want the smaller phone so yeah there's definitely a market there you know I not everybody wants their flagship phone to be you know 5.1 5.2 you know or larger so you know and so if the rumors are true about the iphone 6 a in theory we're going to get the exact same specs in two different sizes phones mm-hmm but you know that that says a lot I think you know I I think there is a market out there of course I mean apples Apple they're going to do whatever they want so right but i think if this 5.5 inch iphone is real and it seems like it is this is definitely an answer to all the phablet's out there to Samsung I mean finally because when the note the original note came out that was like almost a joke or every was like what that's huge is crazy and now it's such a popular handset everybody's looking forward to the note for this year and so Apple is answering that and particularly in the in the conversations I've had with these companies Asia is a big market for these big screen devices and I think apple is obviously trying to push forward in China China Mobile's the world's largest wireless carrier so I think it's pretty important to have the devices they want their although the price points the apples been missing the price point they don't come low enough in China group well speaking of options you know like many phones and z1 compact and all that something I wanted to address that you and I have talked about time and time again annoys us both colors yeah oh I don't to show me nothing ain't I cannot for the life of me figure out nobody in their right mind is going to go out and buy say white galaxy s5 and then three months later a blue one comes out they're gonna go oh I got great adeline but that's what's so annoying right because I want the blue one at lodge like or the red one Emmy which looks amazing by the way but it's exclusive to verizon I I think what the companies aren't think about is all they're actually doing is setting up animosity from their current owners right and like the early yeah the early adopters who are kind of like ah yeah so more and more people are going to end up waiting three to six months because they want a specific color hey exactly which is easy I understand like I talked to tmobile and Sony once when they were launching the i want to say was this d1s and they said well purple only available online not store and I'm like why is that and they said well and I guess you know from retail experience to that they can't carry all this stock of like all these different colors in each store versus having a warehouse where it ships from from online so I get that but like the galaxy s5 if it's just online in blue from AT&T I'd like to be able to buy it but it's not even available from them and then there's a position you you put a color card up because people that tend to go to carrier stores aren't going to be the same ones that shop online so they're actually missing sales by not least having a color card up in the store saying we can ship you the purple yeah but it's a crazy thing I guess is that in what we're talking about is like eighteen t say or whatever t-mobile who cares has their current black and white models of the phone and then all of a sudden three months later Samsung's like oh now we're giving you the exclusive blue model and that's what's so frustrating it should have just been available start and believe us folks we know we're being nitpicky we're talking about colors for crying out loud but we should say why we're talking about it because the rumors of this yellow Nexus 5 that keep popping up and Sean and I are both just like are you kidding me it's a year old phone I mean I love the nexus 5 it's great phone oh yeah meanwhile these pictures are it's it's the picture of the phone bumper yeah well it now to be fair there was the one mention of the word yellow on the site so it's possible yeah yeah but I just I I don't understand why they don't do all the colors at once I yeah you tried to offer as much choice as you can at the beginning to appease every customer because if a customer comes in and they're looking and they go well you know I by the galaxy s5 if it was in blue but this phone in blue over here I'm gonna go with this one and then three months later oh now they release a blue yeah right it's crazy you know I just think you know the yellow Nexus 5 let's just stay it's not called lollipop and it's called lemon something then I could see why that's launch okay here's why they will never call it lemon why oh cuz yeah if you like a lemon like a bad car they they will not call it lemon meringue they will not call it lemon tarts I will not call it lemon yeah you'd have reporters out there like Android lemons a lemon exactly no way lemon is involved in that tight hole yeah you're right but anyway that was my theory now here's an interesting thought from Brantley gemston should they have a phone with a body that changes color with LCD light Debbie create that awesome your battery life would be awful nah not really with LCDs yeah I know but when you look at these devices most of the time I guess they're better now but usually under battery it's the one thing that's consuming here yeah but uh or go to the mo letters I just bought my first LCD light bulb oh yeah and it's drawing 9 wats up now that's led o le D I'm sorry yeah you're Kelly Dean only be because the pixels turn own and often stuff like a light yes your you are a hundred percent right now I imagine that's probably what Brantley was thinking as well yes LED would make a world of difference but yes so a phone line with LED lights that you could change the color as you want or make a blank or not be bent in half and half their baby hey I just I just bought my first LED light bulb and yeah it was expensive as heck but man it puts a good light and it's drawing nine watch for 60 watts equivalent of incandescent blah i'll tell more attractive looking than the curly CFLs here and he'll me lime pie that's a good question um is lime pie really a dessert no I think it's key lime pie yeah yeah because we actually thought we thought Kit Kat was going to be key lime pie for a long time mm-hmm because we didn't realize license names were a possibility yeah and that's a funny story back at Mobile World Congress I guess what was it 2012 i think they met with nestle and decided on that free well yeah uh from christopher miles how big of a factor do you think color plays in choosing a phone it didn't seem to help out that much with moto x all that much that's a good question i think it's video yeah no I and to be very blunt we don't think color plays a lot of options and they get a case in like if it yeah I mean wouldn't be my iphone is in a case all the time and yes I purposefully bought an atrocious color so I yeah everyone always asks me by the my phones in such an ugly case but yeah I eat so we don't think that the color really does play much of an option it's just we don't understand why the companies don't just release all the options at once to appeal to the most consumers possible yeah that's where we're confused exactly and the Moto X I think it actually did help because it's one of the few phones I mean the only phone in the United States where you can go and it's a like I want the pink one with the blue camera well that's the only one good yeah exactly whether that was kind of cool and it's grateful yeah I was tempted to get to get a moto x the the whole thing was the screen size was a little small for me I i was i'm still using an LG g2 yes i have three phones i'm currently using and it will replace my LG g2 and like I really like the LG g2 screen size so that's why I didn't end up going with a medal of X yeah that's a perfect example of a phone with a big screen in a compact body because the bezels just do not there the g2 is an awesome phone I can't wait to i'm going out to irvine here in a couple weeks and I'll finally get to play with the g3 yeah I want to play with the g3 more I haven't had food for much so we'll see if I make it out of the office with the g3 when i leave i got no you seen the g3 bye everybody do i do the Nexus 5 I just bought it off them oh why not yes uh let's see what else would we hope I I don't even know how to address this because I don't fully understand the whole t mobile billing situation yeah I know I'd you know what Brandon covered that more than I did so I was only reading his coverage but you know it's apparently they were tacking on these premium SMS charges onto customer bills but make kind of hiding them apparently so it was hard to see so there's billions billions right they said of dollars or was it million Sonny was billions which is crazy um and then t-mobile CEO comes back and says like look we've been fighting this it wasn't us it's it would might have been these like third parties i think he was saying and to be so remember llegara has not been the CEO that long right but apparently it's been going on since what I mean 2012 and I think it was ongoing it wasn't so no no it start they did it back to two thousand four I went back that far yes that's way before his time with them yeah wait and and his fight now is like look I'm trying to be transparent i'm saying i am you know to be fair with that i don't see them being transparent with everything i think often we have to come back is the press and say like well look I think you really met this meant this in the case of the the free music streaming with unlimited ray plans it's not all unlimited plans as you found out so I think there are some cases where they're still not very transparent and you know we'll just watch this and see and see how it unfolds but right now t-mobile's being accused attacking on billions of charges and t-mobile says it seems every time the music streaming commercial comes on TV now I just SAT there girl mmm yeah because on stage they said for our limited subscribers yeah I don't have I saw subscribed in October I yeah it's not like it's years ago you don't have that much to be grandfathered plan yeah I know exactly so at the time let's see the November December January February March April May so it been seven months since I'd signed up yeah I no longer qualified as new yeah you were already grandfathered within a year it's nothing booth in like a half a year yeah yeah so that's a problem uh yeah I it was playing though is that the whole thing was rolling out yesterday John Legere who is a very frequent wheat mayo Twitter user he's just my silent Oh sudden yeah he came back a little bit later but he also wasn't making sprint like hell jokes or ATT jokes or verizon jokes yeah so I mean that's yeah when you're trying to fight against all I mean I'm not even gonna quote what he said but he was saying that the other carriers are really bad guys and then all of a sudden you're accused of stealing billions of dollars from your customers like yeah oh that doesn't look very good yeah thank you for not quoting on yeah that's a thing like a CEO said this and like I can't even quote him on a podcast looking up though yeah right it's easier to find my every way uh the the final topic we want to touch on them we'll get to the other questions I've come in so the AP now this is this is not new week we've heard of this before the AP announced this week that they're going to be employing robots to write stock earning reports mm-hmm and God bless them because those reports are not fun they're not fun but I the first time I heard about robots being used to write stories was sports reporting and just like the effort game ends you know it reads the score reads through the stats and forms a story and publishes it and I think it was on average each tree was going to run them like I want to say like eight dollars or something like that right you know which is cheaper than a human writer in a lot of cases or not in some cases of places i worked before TechnoBuffalo yes free lancing it's not fun yeah I worked one place where and three dollars opposed yay yeah I've been paid by the word before it's weird uh when I was a magazine writer i was paid by the word yeah yeah yeah yeah and the best i ever did was fifty cents a word I don't even remember it wasn't very much yeah that well it was for as special unlicensed Star Wars magazine which I got offered the job right after I had been approved by Lucasfilm to work an official Star Wars publication so I couldn't write under my name oh wow I've don't pen knees before too yeah so I will not reveal the pin name but there are four articles after her under any way about a dozen under a pen name from years ago yeah but it was a large paycheck so I was like a pen name yeah exactly and they were fine with it so I was like okay send me a check just make sure it's not made up to the pen name yeah a robot that's crazy that they would actually that they're capable of doing this I mean I think it talks to the advances of technology and dictation but wow we're in trouble what in the case of techno Buffalo something I've worked very hard to do is I don't I try to allow all of you guys to have your own voice mmm if you read one of brandon's articles you will not confuse it with one of your articles right I'm kind of a boring yeah you won't confuse me with Joey and so on Amy and there are sites out there that they homogenized the way their writers work and I couldn't tell you know i'll reach start reading the stories and i have no clue who wrote it until i look at the byline right like when you look at for example the AP when they have these magic style guides and stuff exactly and we do follow style gallo we fall style guides on small things like you should there be a hyphen and Wi-Fi and you italicize this type of word and so on mmm but for the most part you know i encourage all of you guys to have your own voices you know and now yes Todd when you're doing like a stock report yeah it's dry but when you write one of your editorials is def not right handed right definitely not dry the now I understand that the AP is only playing to use these robots and business reporting which is a dry area but it's so it's gonna be very odd there's gonna be absolutely no human flavor to it right yeah I mean it's just gonna be but I could see like in terms of trying to get breaking news up quickly which I assume it's the only reason you really want to do this I mean I guess if you're trying to save money on boring stories but I think for like sports scores earning to report stuff like that was like boom it's up then it probably makes a lot of sense well let's just bring the headlights like how many I'm curious about how the headlines will work because that's one of the most important things in an article and how does a robot make a good headline I guess I could just say like GM q4 earnings yeah but are you gonna click on that no that's the same so how know it I can see where there's an bitch of readers that will want to read the style of writing mm-hmm if you can even call to style because it's an algorithm um the robotic style I don't know I I don't feel threatened I don't see jon rettinger going out and hiring you know the Todd bought 100 yeah I get through different industries it makes sure when the thai baht 400-plus comes out you know oh I gotta upgrade it got faster processor it's awesome even on its worst day it's still running faster than Todd ever dead that's slowpoke yes you wanted one of the listeners here watchers Christopher miles says maybe OEMs delayed colors to keep phones in the headlines every couple of months that's absolutely true yeah i saw that question i was thinking about as we were discussing other things i think that's a very interesting idea there because but at the same time you're like mainstream press isn't gonna be writing about only press like us is going to write about so are we a big enough your factor for the companies to i believe what we cater to to fans right into to enthusiasts and that's sort of like that's perfect for these companies releasing new colors but i think also you'll see and i know that like Samsung will sometimes come into New York City and I'm like all you guys are in town what's up there like well we're beating with the lifestyle magazines because we have you know we're showing them the new colors of the galaxy s5 and then they get they bring them in they get photographed and they show up in next month's issue so in a lot of ways colors do go to the mainstream press just not obese Main Street tech press gotcha no okay that's interesting hey I like fashion week stuff you'll see like sometimes they'll have limited edition cases Oh Fashion Week okay Todd I'm sending you there on assignment yeah yep yep you're going to Fashion Week there's no choice i want you to report on all the latest Betty Johnson designs yeah it was fun with a flourish yeah wild uh here's a question that is sure to ignite a firestorm from u sama Ilana I apologize if I mispronounced your name which is the best operating for gaming iOS or and I'm gonna hide in the corner behind the sheet you know that that's that's totally unlike I guess if the games are available that you want to play pick that platform I'm trying to tread carefully here look Android in some ways could be better if you want a phone with a bigger screen maybe but you can also play on an iPad that's all yeah I mean I what mobile gaming I do I typically do on my iPad so though terms of graphics though they'll I mean these things i think the high-end Android and iPhone look pretty similar to me I don't really do them side by side and then we have android has their new gaming uh engine I guess coming out but it's named so developer friendly and not consumer friendly that I forget it but also iOS Apple has metal that they're calling and that looked really really amazing a during the WWDC so we'll see what comes out of that too but I I think a lot of it depends on the hardware that's in the tablet too so yeah yeah no uh from Sasha Mahal there he is I wondered where he was yeah what are your thoughts on google and OEMs on Android wear TV and auto and how they aren't laying them put skins on thank you thank you thank you i love that i mean and i'm a fan of some of the skins actually I like since six a lot but i love the nexus 5 2 and how it's just pure and simple and i think with Android wear and the car stuff just leave it simple otherwise especially if you want mast adoption among consumers like you can I have all this stuff floating rather you like what the heck's going on I don't want no I i am totally behind this because you know somebody that picks up an HTC phone and then looks at a touch ways the other grand feels somewhat similar but at the same time they're going to go well this isn't exactly like what I had with the television I think the you know the best example I heard about the television is if you're using a television in your family room it should have the same interfaces the television in your bedroom even if it's from a different manufacturer that nailed it yeah that's a great that's a perfect example of how it should work yeah and why it should have skins the thing I guess that's crazy though it's like so Android auto runs on your phone right you plug it into the system so it's entirely powered so even though your phone with android l still has touchwiz it's just completely stripped off for the yeah i think once you plug it into the car it's gonna strip off TouchWiz and just keep it basic right and be a different interface on the witch again I bring up how many cars actually have displays in them yeah I don't know I mean you were once right but like I don't my car doesn't know I mine definitely doesn't and like I said last show I just I like putting my phone up on the dash turn on my directions that's that from Nathan goalless Rin I again guys I'm sorry Oh will the Android L developer version have regular updates till release Todd you've dealt with the great question i just installed it on and it seemed it's actually really stable for my use i have it uh pretty much as a daily driver but not with this same garden i'm carrying it with Wi-Fi is charging rhino um i hope so because i'd like to see what else changes and there are still like bugs especially in some apps like facebook if you click a comment does all this weird stuff at least on my phone so I hope there's regular updates but I'm also happy that it's not so buggy that I can't use it which is what happened to me with iOS 8 honestly beta 2 was still way too buggy for me I went back 22 7 11 so yeah I don't know I hope it was regular updates because it'd be cool to see new features yeah I think there will be regular updates from taj mahal do you think android l will be version 4.5 or five point oh I am betting 5 i'm gonna go 52 because it's such a major update i mean they they're saying that they're changing everything and they really are so i think we'll see it go to five second geeky reason why L in the Greek alphabet is 50 oh that's awesome didn't even know that there you go Nick yes I yeah I think that's one of the big I'm really curious why they didn't reveal the name for Elliott the like like why hold that back because laughter taffy is holding up for more money yeah right there you go will we see shyla Buffalo on the show Shia LaBeouf lows in the irvine office so if i do a show while i'm out there yeah uh from mr. I'll a buffalo by the way for people who don't know is a statue of a buffalo that we have been in the office it was just featured in the YouTube video it's okay if you don't know why it's called Shia LaBeouf alow that dates back to the very early days of technobuffalo when we held a contest to name the buffalo and the logo yep inshallah buffalo won the contest from mr. Krabs man one two three what do you guys think of the new software buttons and android l i personally prefer the old ones the new ones look like weird playstation buttons yes they do they do look like weird playstation buttons and they look uh I don't like Toya schleich comical almost I don't know not comical in the way that they're funny but like I don't know they just don't seem very solid me am i funny to you are you smilin I know comical is not the right word I meant like comic sans comical I don't know they just like rounded but they do look like the PlayStation buttons which is weird you think I would have been like uh maybe we shouldn't put those yeah I I'm not a big fan of the new buttons I think they look very much like PlayStation buttons but yeah well wait for Sony to file a lawsuit yeah Samsung's gonna slap their own buttons in different orders all over the phone anyway everybody will I'm not singling out Susan well I I wonder how it's going to work on let's say you update older phone with physical buttons yeah yeah obviously nothing's going to change but yeah and they're gonna be your brain might explode well I think that is going to bring this week's show to an end do you have any final thoughts Todd no that's it that's it for me I'll see everybody in two weeks because I'll be off next week maybe I'm going on vacation yeah thank God I want to take the bacon I guess well as always we appreciate you joining us and you can find us on the itunes store by searching for the technical flow show we do appreciate if you rate and review us you can also subscribe via RSS feed you can subscribe on pocket casts you can find us on the stitcher app which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere so basically anywhere they're our podcast sir is the techni Buffalo show in my silence until next week I have been Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of techno Buffalo I've been joined by executive editor of mobile Todd Hazleton bye everybody till next week take it easy everyone will see you back here bye bye see ya