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and welcome to episode 21 of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm I grew to house for donation Nani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined by executive editor mobile Todd asel t'en everybody ah too bad was a quiet week yeah quiet two weeks yeah I mean nothing's been going on I mean I shows up we got nothing talking about by everyone yeah there's nothing Thank You Jay like so yeah we do it tuesday was the christmas day of the tech world or the the superbowl we internally refer to it as the Super Bowl because it's a one-and-done event as opposed to like CES which goes on for an entire week mm-hmm but the Apple day is always an interesting experience and some of the rumors proved to be true some didn't I'm thankful that it was not called the iphone 6 well I was not thrillin to that name yeah iphone 6 plus a--'s and they had to find some way to delineate between the two but yes so we finally know the iphone 6 well actually we've known the iphone 6 4 months i mean we've had a dummy unit in the air by office for how long yeah for a long time probably yeah it looked exactly the same as the real fo now before we go too much further let's do be let's be up front with everyone here we you and I were not at the apple event John Wells we covered a bean ice cream that failed all the time yeah what what's the TV truck schedule but the John is the only member of staff has actually physically touched the two new iphone sixes our seeing the Apple watch in person let's address that real quick why in the world did they not called the iWatch I don't know it seems like that would have been perfect I mean I saw some headlines to kind of we're saying like this is tim cook's apple now and so it's not i watch it's like we you know like just either taking the even though it's the most personal gadget they've ever launched according to Apple they're taking the eye out of it like and I think we saw some examples with that where you know the messaging and sending the heart rate and stuff like that it it was weird but it's not just about I I think I think that was the message I don't know them okay I study poetry so I could dig into it I guess will you ever under any circumstance send somebody your heart rate no I mean well I don't even understand like why that's an option I I fit my gut feeling Ezio it's supposed to be like you if your remain decoupled you wanna express how much affection you feel for them I don't know it may I i was saying here during the live stream and they mentioned the ascender hurt right I was like wait what I know it makes you wonder like do you think they did that like at first like you could send this to your doctor so they know like what's going on if they need to or something and then like but then they couldn't get approval maybe from the you know the FDA and so they're like oh well we'll still include the feature but we'll make it a social feature not like i can just say that i said suddenly my heart rate and I get back are you that much in love with me or are you having a heart attack oh yeah I yes that's just one of many features they listed for the the Apple watch but I was just like yeah I'm never gonna sit anybody my heart rate that is never going to happen no I can't even see it sitting it as a joke haha well now you know and i get 1 i'm gonna send you my heart rate as a joke oh thank you so much Todd I i look forward to exact Todd there's no heart rate here here you're not still online oh man but that's what it is you should so you can monitor your love see each other still life they've still got a heartbeat don't need to see grandma this weekend haha he's looks fine jus looks fine here next week good time but no I mean so yeah we all knew what the iphone 6 was going to look like I do find it really interesting that yeah I I really I began to question the 5.5 inch and the final run up to to the event because we really had not seen any leaks on it yeah we'd see just like sort of the bodies but it wasn't as frequent as we saw for the iphone 6 and then there were the rumors that like there was problems with the display or like that it wasn't gonna launch on time and so what's funny and so I think I wasn't sure either or or you know the rumors that it was gonna watch later this year which would have been a bummer right like and I hope there's enough stock that we can all buy them you know on time this was laughing about from Dominique Weber can you please activate some chinese translation I don't like streams without my chinese translation yeah lyst AA zomberry got i'll see what we could do about that oh hey Apple stream the Apple stream had a loud chinese translation for those who didn't tune in for that yeah so no I it does make you wonder is there going to be a short supply on the 5.5 I don't know why I keep calling at the 5.5 when it has an actual name male 6 plus yeah the six plus but I don't know I found it really interesting I found it also really interesting that the Apple watch had not leaked out in any way we had not seen that design anywhere yeah and to be frank I think if I did see it i would have thought it was it fake because it doesn't look like an apple product like is it just me it just doesn't I don't know especially the golden one I mean I get it they're going for premium design and I don't even know what that thinks gonna cost because you gotta figured that the the price they gave 349 s for the cheapest model probably with a rubber strap then with the smallest display so you know what's the larger display with a metal band or an 18 carat gold or whatever it is banyan costumes ridiculous yeah I I don't know um and everyone you know even my my mother talked to me later it did she's like who are you get an Apple watch i was like i am no idea she was well it's only three forty eight nine I was like ah ha ha starting at 349 yeah exactly yeah ngo I didn't catch I was like yeah that's starting at 349 so we don't know how high this thing's gonna go and you gotta figure that addition is not gonna be cheap it's well as it is I think 349 s2i yeah definitely I mean here I have I mean I don't it's not sapphire right the 360 but I'll show I mean I got the 360 in yesterday and this thing is sweet so far like it's hard to tell that it's even a SmartWatch not it looks gorgeous I another watch in my room its own i usually wear on the show and it's the one that my wife bought me and it's a luminox and so it's got a metal and a big big metal body too and so this actually feels lighter and I don't know it's a nice watch then fortunate thing is it's still running Android wear yeah they're not likely to get the Android wear you but hey so they met and that's any comments we make towards Android wear it's the fact that it still just feels too uncashed well you know what's crazy we were um in in Berlin last week I was there for fo for those who aren't familiar and several of the journalists were wearing Android wear watches most had the gear live because they made a better decision than I did but we were all wearing him and it was super useful i gotta say as i was walking around getting the alerts like calendar alerts and stuff like that I actually really did enjoy it for the first time I was like okay you know this makes sense but right around my house uh huh the motor yeah well from Christopher miles he asked do you think 349 is too much for a smartphone accessory and that's a really interesting question yeah we view not just the Apple watch but do we view smartwatches currently as just smart phone accessories I think so I mean yeah you know the gear s is sort of like its own standalone but I think other that you have to because it's like it's like having a bluetooth speaker right like you can't do anything with it unless you have something to give it life and I think smartwatches I mean yeah it'll tell the time right but then I mean you need it you need a smartphone so I think it's sort of the accessory but people are talking about the Apple iWatch still and are curious is that still an accessory because I think we have to see like sort of all how the software works I don't think we've seen a lot of that yet and like can it stand alone better than Android wear like Android wear can you stand alone right all right all the same with a pebble right yeah so I don't know it's gonna be interesting i do think 349 is too high i think that you know it's some of the same problem that we had with the fire phone and that it was just it was too i right and these companies are I would you know the fire phone had come out at say you know 349 full price i would i would about one and immediately regretted after having a bright after yeah i did love those years last night yeah fire fire to know the fire phones table um but I I do i think the Apple watch is going to have a pricing problem miss you know again we're judging it on honestly folks you if you watch the stream you know as much about the Apple watch as we do yeah you know they didn't let John play with one they were just on the rotating hooks so yeah I we don't know anything more than you do so I'm withholding judgment at this time on the Apple watch until I actually get to touched one and see what it's like that being said it's going to have to be really impressive to justify that price yep really a lot of money it's half the price of an iWatch I mean I mean huh fea an iphone 6 from twitter i'm not gonna stop saying i watch by the way just like that nobody is because i forgot to address this at the top of the show dan Legesse asks where's joey joey is this is the time of year where gaming becomes insanity and he yeah always currently reviewing destiny and NHL 15 I am trying to twitch every morning so Joey is probably going to be incommunicado for a little bit because he also shared with me the other day the review list for the next three months it's a monster it is not I think there's 23 games on the roster oh my goodness yeah and that will be split between him Eric and Ron but still it's just like wow um have fun guys so Joey still around but Joey is very deep into the beginning of the crazy fall review season right from Dominique Webber at Todd I know you just got this yesterday but i'll go ahead and ask it hey Todd how much battery life do you get with mom 236 yes okay so he just got it yesterday and it came with like thirty three percent battery life I think okay and and I was setting it up and trying to figure out the charging it wasn't charging right away for some reason I think kept saying like battery like charge your device and then it would shut up so after all that I got in the car to go to fox business yesterday and I had a 50-percent charge and by the time and now I paired it in the car it had to download a software update and all this stuff by the time I got home it was at like six percent which is terrible right like that's forty six percent in the mere three hours I was gone but um then yesterday I let it on for a full charge and um I took it off at about seven o'clock last night and then you know I got my notifications but not many you know through the night and now I'm a 51-percent and it's twelve o'clock here and I didn't charge it last night I just left it on my bed stand so it's not terrible that's all terrible I we I can't agree on the first day I mean you're pairing you're downloading everything else yeah I can see where battery would drain faster but uh was like what the heck put a charge is really really quickly yeah if you didn't charge last night and you're at 51-percent that's not bad yeah from 7pm on so now yeah so yeah you're 15 hour 15 16 hours in that's at 17 hours then that's not bad oh um really good question from Alan all the questions are good but this one really caught my eye here from Alan Hobson why call it the iphone 6 plus and said the iphone error and the iphone mini it's a good question i think many would be kind of confusing only I mean only because you're still going from a 4-inch display on the iphone 5s to a 4.7 so it's still getting bigger in Brighton so I think that would be but I like the iphone air name I mean I think that would've been really cool especially I was like just slightly smaller than me not slightly smaller than the other your iPad Mini but no I I really I did think it was gonna be iphone air I I really was lean because then we would have had continuity across the product lines hmm but I don't know it would make sense maybe maybe little change in at some point I don't know because it would make sense you're right i mean if you go it's the same as the ipad family Aaron Vinny well we were joking yesterday in the urban yeah I was joking i am it was in the company chair i was joking on IM with some of the guys and you know what would what is next year's iteration good me called the iphone 6 plus plus yeah there's a buddy jon rettinger story is it will be 6s plus but yeah so that's getting lengthy mm-hm plus i mean i don't know i mean but look at what Motorola did right x plus one they just called it the Moto X again which I don't see Apple doing and that's kind of riding either and I really hate that Motorola did that just because there's going to be confusion yeah you know I i I'm sorry every product should have a distinct name I'm that's just my believe you should not reuse a name exactly yes especially when I consumers like looking for accessories or news or like like how do you you know Jake oh do I have the 2013 mall or 2014 model in a year down the road what do you know that the accept that is an excellent point right there on the accessories because last year's Moto X is smaller than this year's so if a consumers in a store and sees oh this case will work with a moto x and then yeah they aren't gonna know you're like buying a gift for somebody or something yeah and I that's I fully believe that every phone should have a distinct name it's you know and moto x plus one would have been fine ill Moto X to whatever but just don't call it moto X well but it is what it is uh so we really haven't done delved into the phones you know I think a lot of the surprise was removed by the fact that we had seen the dummy units for so long we had seen the schematics and everything else mm-hmm but at the end of the day was there really anything that revolutionary um will the mobile payments which I see people talking about um it's not okay okay I should I should step back it's not revolutionary right like people are going to jump down my throat other people have been trying this for a long time but I did see and I hate to say it but I'm excited to see Apple trying it because it's it I think it has the best chance at working I mean it didn't work for Google Wallet like it's still not working right like it's in some stores but nobody really knows about it or use it that uses it and now all of a sudden Apple dozen people are like oh they're like you can use your phone for payments it's like boy tell you can do that for years but if people don't know about if people don't use it and if Apple can teach people to know about it I think this is good for everybody right because then people will start using Google Wallet more and then all these like all the checkout pointer points of check out and all the retail stores are gonna be all set to take these payments whether you have an iphone or you have google wallet because it's the point of sale right so we'll see rising attitude one thing they didn't mention it Todd you know this about me I am a complete loyalty points fanatic yeah yeah I want Apple paid also contain oh they're coming for us yeah I want them I want haha look I want them to also contain my rewards cards that would be awesome you know so let's say all right walgreens has a rewards program so let's say it walgreens is one of the partner store so let's say I go in I tap my phone for the payment could it also transfer my loyalty program at the same time I bet that would be awesome because you can do it with google wallet has loyalty cards and then you can make your yeah so like you scan your card and make a payment yeah yeah I don't know we'll see I I think and like you said the whole problem is biz that people have not been educated on mobile payments they have every mobile payments platform has done a horrible job of educating Joe consumer right now Apple comes along and for better or worse when Apple talks people suddenly listen mm-hmm so apples going to be out there promoting Apple pay I think the other thing Apple did that was really bright it was they went out and they built these partnerships before the announcement so there's not going to be this oh now we'll go talk to merchants try and get them do it done Apple went ahead and got out there and when we're launching this do you want to be him right but they're launching in October yeah you have a little delay i love the way but I i I'm not that surprised because it is going to take a while I thought that was real really interesting you could use it at McDonald's Drive thrus yeah what's that about is just like I guess they have one right there in the tank they may have a like one they can hold out the window you could tap to that way it wouldn't be exposed to the elements all the time right right but no it's all very iPhones are gonna drop onto the concrete between the window and car oh ok even think about that but that might be apples way to sell an extra million phones Yeah right ah but no it's interesting but as for the phone itself yeah it's I like the design but it's the same design we've been seeing on the minute mini in the air hmm it's a there is a point where i'm going to finally say okay the phones are getting too thin you know I I have monster hands as we've all seen yo remember folks this is a galaxy mega 6.3 and it looks like a normal person's phone in my hand yeah I swear I keep that thing around as a prop for the rest of my life ah fine yeah exactly so I I do wonder if you know phones are getting too thin but I mean yes it's a it's a gorgeous design yes it's gonna have iOS 8 but the five in the 5s will have iOS 8 as well as well as the 4s maybe the four I can't remember every phone that's getting it but I don't know that being said yes Todd and I are both getting sixes well we gained six pluses 6 plus yes because we're wild men like that uh speaking of the six plus we do have a question here from keegan sutherland do you think the 6 plus is too big for a person's jeans pocket how big are your games I get these like comments all the time and I were probably skinnier jeans than I should I don't have I've been made to talk to you about that yeah it's just not good luck I know but like I haven't had a problem so I don't know it really depends on your jeans right mm yeah I realize so you know like I'm not a fashion-forward kind of guy either I I searched before and I I do not believe in it wearing any pair of pants that does not is not cargo I always have a pocket that's big enough for something yeah yeah yeahs cargo pants for sure yes we're the wrong people to ask no I honestly key i think it's gonna be fine you know now if you put a case on it might start to get a little wonky depending on the thickness and height of the case I always put my phones in cases well not all of them most of them so it's just going to depend you know go into an apple store slip one in your pocket they will be fine with that they'll be fine that's what they should have hey you try out for the pocket try that station all also all fun sellers should have a pocket tray outstation uh from dan lages day and I apologize if I mispronounce your last name do you think apples ditch the iphone 5 CEO the CSeries yeah it was so selling it right aren't there still selling it but I don't think there's ever going to be another iteration more unapologetically plastic phones oh I you know as soon as I said Johnny I was doing that video for the Apple watch I was like please something be unapologetically please that joke must live for the eons yeah because all right the 5 c's free now but I mean it's been like a penny for months exactly yeah nice is 99 bucks was a great deal election yeah the 5c is now the entry-level phone that you can get free on contract but I do not think that there will be another iteration of it and that being said we do need to have just a moment of respect silence for the for the passing of the ipod classic farewell old friend we're good me gets greater yes ah I still carry an ipod classic and I still have a back bipod classic I don't care yes even leave me from wired well no he used to write for Wired lee's famous tech writer said you can take my ipod classic when you pry it from my cold dead fingers i retweeted up I just say way you know the thing the thing that never made sense to me about the ipod classic and the the lack of updates it went over 1800 days without an update why didn't they put a solid state drive in it and make it for those of us that have these giant music catalogs they could have sold them cheaper they could yo well solid-state drives back then were expensive they were back then yes but they've come way down so why didn't they finally update it with a solid drive with a hundred and 80 gigabytes or whatever yeah yeah what's the what's the largest ipod touch these days I think 128 do you think huh I mean yeah but I guess you just like Oh 64 actually yeah okay well I like the hard drive size I also like the durability of the classic because when I used to go to the gym before I I end up quitting the gym so I could just buy my own equipment I got really tired of driving into town every day um you know I like the fact that I didn't worry as much about the classic because it didn't have you know the giant touchscreen on it so you know if I was going to wear it on my arm or something you know I was always concerned it would bump into a machine or fall off while I was on the treadmill or whatever else I I just always felt like touch screens were too much of a risk in the gym parents up if that's why I stayed with the classic for so long it just you know I i had a speck case for it that which had speck cases seen better days at this point but you know I just always felt more comfortable with the safety issues mmhmm yeah so miss the classic you know it who said you know I doubt that apple will ever do anything without a touch screen again so sad day sad days yeah yeah yeahs done that yeah we were talking about the size of the touch I I have 160 gigabyte classic but yeah that was the biggest there ever gob was the 160 and that's what I carry that's what my spare is yes folks I have a spare classic I don't care what you say about me I will live on with the classic for decades forever but uh oh here's a non-apple question will move into something else for a minute from Dan again I'm edge I'm slaughter your name lages uh what do you think of the leaked windows 9 images it'll good to me I'm not cited for that start menu and what is the only thing to get excited for but I'm right there with you know and I was talking about this with other journalists last week too i was like ok windows it's always about windows right like not about tiles and when you open up these modern UI apps they just take over the whole screen like they would on like a tablet but this is a pc like my compare my desktop here right next to me so windows 8.1 pc and it drives me nuts i'm like no i want this in a windowed mode you know cuz i'd like to have things all over the place so like right so they're bringing it looks like there's more control than that which is great and then the start menu which you know i really like to because I hate going into modern UI like that title based interface and trying to dig through looking for the Apple it just doesn't make sense like with a mouse and a keyboard it doesn't make any sense i know i think i'm not a window plan i guess is supposed to be like bringing back some of the features that people with mice and keyboards locks well this is the thing this was the thing i always felt was wrong with windows 8 from day one was there like oh you'll have so much you know such a better experience with touchscreens windows is the dominant operating system and business fine not a problem were they expecting big corporations to go out and buy 5,000 10,000 20,000 touchscreen monitors I don't think so and like I don't even like you with touchscreen but I'm just like that's just me um yeah okay so I I'm on an imac here I i love my imac but I'm sorry I don't ever see myself in yellow typing oh I need to change that yeah it's just not how I know no it's not it's how I interact with the tablet that's fine on my desktop here it's a 27-inch imac I'm sorry I mean I have zero desire to ever reach up and touch the screen yeah you know and I I think windows has learned a valuable or Microsoft has learned a valuable lesson here about the windows product people while change is good it takes a long time to embrace it mm-hmm you know and like I think it should be an option like it's not like it's hard to leave those I mean it's been in Windows forever the mouse and keyboard controls like why i get rid of them and why is it taking so long bring back no no no yeah no i totally agree with you i totally agree with you from allen Hobson maybe I miss it but do the new iphones have eliminated sapphire display like we thought no yeah no sapphire there no I think the sapphire is going to be all about the the watch yeah i just i don't think that they can afford yet to do sapphire on that large of a screen for that many units yeah and nortel poured it I think that's actually why the watch is probably that's it yeah but it does have the Sapphire you know coating on on the back camera and then on the touch ID too yeah where does from Dominique Webber how on earth could motorolla choose a processor that was released in 2010 for the Moto 360 pretty easy yeah I think they had a lot of these processors probably sitting around so i put a minute but here's the thing I'm wearing the 360 now it performs just as well as the G watch I have in the other room um and I don't I have not seen anything that takes advantage of the Snapdragon 400 processor in the in the G watch so so for me show me why I eat a better processor because I'm fine it's a watch you know and it's just taking your notifications it's not like it's doing anything that Snapdragon 400 seems like overkill but I don't know yeah I know I think that I want right now the current iteration of smartwatches is a very different beast on a smartphone and they don't need that much horsepower yet you know and there will be a day where the Snapdragon 800 s in there it's probably four years down below but I just don't see the knee like why do you need that it's like what Bill Gates would say you know like why would you ever need this much storage in yet here we are yeah I know the idea that I can have one terabyte of cloud storage just boggles my mind interesting question from Tehran Sorenson so what's the scoop on windows 9 it seems to be cancelled when it's supposed to be coming very soon and cancel again what do you go well here's the story I think what might what might be confusing you is I think there is there was talk of a bigger update to Windows 8.1 and then Microsoft decided to do monthly releases their latest was in August actually and then meanwhile they're also working towards apparently windows 9 or whatever it's called but they're going to release the windows I guess technical preview which should follow their September 30th event I guess either you know like that day or early october which will then be a preview of windows 9 and what's coming the next operating system sometime later next year so it's not going to be windows 9 just yet but I think what your maybe and on the on the other side meanwhile windows 8.1 is still getting these monthly updates as they build up to the release of Windows line so I think maybe when you maybe it was like a Windows 8.1 big update you were expecting in which case yeah that's not how it's working anymore you're just doing mock the releases from Christopher miles does this actually compete with Android wear a meaning the Apple watch does this actually compete with Android wear since your choice is completely depend on which phone you have good that's a good question there's a very good question I think android wear should like Google should find a way to make it compatible with iOS because yes keeper I mean with the exception of the pebble right now whatever SmartWatch you buy is pretty much to pin it on one singular OS which and see and I think that's really silly especially on Apple's part because the yes the iphone is the number one best-selling phone model it's not you know not the dominant of the market because of how many phone samsung releases and so on but Apple Joey made an excellent point the other day he was going to be watching the live stream and he has both pc mecca home but he wanted to watch it on his pc he goes so you're telling me that to watch an apple presentation which is all about introducing new products i have to already be in apples ecosystem to learn about products that could possibly lure me into the ecosystem yeah and I think I've read that it's the same case with the Apple watch if it was Android compatible that could be yet another entry point into the apple ecosystem now I understand the App Store and all that you know fine but yeah it does seem a little odd it and your ear right Christopher it's hard to say that they compete with one another because right now Android where's Android and Apple watches iOS so they're they're preaching to the choir in both situations yeah but it's good android wear needs needs a huge competitor in the sense that there's something else going on and that people might look at one or the other maybe Apple watch users look at Android wear and say hey how come I can't do that and back and forth and then that's where we get progression of products so it's great and pebble and Sony everybody else okay from out Hobson will they update the Apple watch every year or will it take longer I mean they took three years plus three to six more months to release it the first time okay that's mm-hmm the development process on any product when they were working on the original iphone just as an example we know they were also working on the iphone 3g and the 3gs they knew those were coming so there was about a three-year development cycle before the first iPhone came out that's that's very very typical with new products so yes they it seems like it took a long time but that's because people like Tata myself we're seeing her going there's apple watch coming but yeah and there's also the question of how long ago in the process were we just writing off of people's fantasies compared to actual factual leaks you know it's like the end the mythical apple television set yeah we still do not know if that thing even is in development we have no idea we hear rumors about all the time so now if an apple TV someday let's say in 2020 Apple finally decides release to television can we sit around go what we've been writing about a thing for 15 years oh who knows you know it's one of those things I think everyone expected Apple to work on a watch but we have no clue when they actually really started work out they may tell us someday but it's Apple they don't tell us anything they don't absolutely have to right so uh from a heck of a name fame muzu me TD I hope I got that right what do you think about Apple pay the Apple watch chance it does not have to have fingerprint sensor do you think it would compromise security we now interesting it's still not the same as a fingerprint it does have to have a skin contact so which we just found out the a course that's not the same as 0 anyone's skin would work yeah it seems like anyone's that's weird yeah that is a little odd um does it come from it's a good question i'm trying i have a feeling there's something that we don't know about yet yeah that's what I think that comes down to like bra I want to see how how the Apple watch and iphone 6 work together and how the software sort of hands off I mean it's hard to say like it's going to compromise security because sure like if I if I find it I watched and I can run around and make payments like but I don't see that I mean I don't see that sort of being that easy there has to be something sort of in there i mean the Apple hasn't really talked so much about it aside from saying it'll work so yeah we're we're limited on speculation yeah exactly uh from Dominique Weber do you think Microsoft could afford to release windows 9 for free it would definitely improve the adoption rate on windows thank you I guess I mean you can afford to you sure it can afford to but Microsoft and now true they have a new CEO you know the first time oh okay sorry about that folks for some reason when Time Machine kicks in to do its hourly check it it's time machine okay so Microsoft does have a new CEO that's the first one outside of the original core group of like Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer and all that he could change the game but it's kind of inherent in Microsoft's DNA to charge for everything I'm not saying that's good or that's bad but that's just the way Microsoft is built yes Microsoft could afford to do it will they that's a whole different kettle of fish yeah back to the other question Jacob just Jacob one of our staff members said he thinks whenever you take the iWatch are the Apple watch I'm still calling it i watch whenever you take it off it needs a passcode to turn back on so there you go that that could be another software okay yep that could be so yeah I dominic i don't know i don't think i don't think microsoft would ever not charge for an operating system I just don't think that's in their corporate DNA from Christopher miles were you disappointed by the Apple watch design no I kind of liked it yeah I was all right yeah I ain't until I play it with one in person it's hard to say I mean it did look a little chunky but you know when you're looking at on a computer screen you don't know a hundred percent for sure right um find some breaking news for people while we're on the podcast okay t-mobile just announced its pricing for the iphone 6 and iphone 6 plus so here you go iphone 6 it's 16 gigs is a zero dollars down with a monthly payment of $27 iphone 6 but 64 is a hundred dollars down with 128 200 otters down all with twenty seven dollars and eight cents a month and then the iphone 6 plus 16 64 128 zero dollars ninety nine dollars and 199 all upfront and then all with monthly payments of 31 24 or thur 125 for 24 months so there you have it whoo mobile customers here they just just crossed the wire from someone that I'm not even going to try because it's all sorts of long for a name but what is the best cheap SmartWatch pebble yeah yeah hands down pebble from Dan lages would the Apple watch look better if it were round we're an implicit really yeah we ran a post earlier with an artist conception of it it almost seems like it was supposed to be round yeah I thought it looked better yeah I haven't worn a square watch I mean I have the g one g watch but i mean like a square root square to watch in a long time like by my own choice so I don't know more of a round watch guy from Teheran sorensen do you get anything extra for your 100 bucks when you get an iphone six-plus besides a bigger screen yes you get optic image stabilization on the camera as opposed to digital image stabilization which actually is a very big deal because that means that the camera floats within the module so it's actually a far better image stabilization system but apparently it's not great for moving objects i was reading a story on the verge today about it which was really interesting about how capturing moving objects like a dog running around actually is not good with though is so ab that yeah but yeah there is a slight bit of technology difference between the two devices besides just the larger screen from al Hopsin your thoughts on the protruding cameras on the iphones seems without a case it will be wobbly on a table or something we actually wondered about that on apple day they just called apple day now it's like a national holiday yeah I mean I again I mean it's not that large of a protrusion but Joey actually was the first one to ask that during the live stream goes I lay it on a table type is it gonna wobble and I guess we'll all find out next Friday hmm yeah when we all could ever leave my phone on table to type but I could see like maybe they're going to be annoying like if you just put it down just rocking around now uh let's see we got bunch of questions let me burn through a bunch of a real quick a mole in the show here from Christopher miles is it just me or does android were seemed like the more streamlined interface aah siren Claire doesn't feel streamline to me it feels like freaking mess yeah I have to agree taught here too and that's not a sphere fanboyism ton I both own Android wear watches and I forgot my pebble on the kitchen table today but I have not worn my G watch in weeks I hate the thing hey absolutely not like the Moto 360 looks better and stuff but but navigating it just drives me nuts yeah now it just like I guide it and I know how it works I know that you swipe up and swipe left and right to get deeper into notifications I get it all I just hate it the way it operates just doesn't make sense now Android wear is not remotely streamlined I'm afraid yeah and look nerdy yeah looks cool I mean if you want to do something to like I'm swiping through try to like check my heart rate it's very like you have the best way to do anything is to use your voice and then that relies on it actually picking up what you said and you knowing the right command and that's kind of just really frustrating yeah uh from Isaac Abraham I would wager if any other company besides apple created the design of the Apple watch it would be laughed off as a fail what do you guys think mmm-hmm I'm not thoroughly watches the smart watches right now you could contact what we were just talking about scary really focused on on the software and I think Apple should decent-looking software and I think they showed premium such premium looking model said i don't i don't think anybody would have laughed it off i mean when you look at the worst android wear watches their plastic right so if Apple had a pure plastic device and that was it that maybe people would be like what the heck I mean because now you have the moto 360 and you have the g watch our that are metal and so I think I mean the polished look of the Apple watch I don't think would have been laughed at if anybody launched it no I mean I love the design of the 360 I I think it's a gorgeous looking watch it it's just unfortunate it runs Android wear yeah you tell we really did not like it though we're gonna give it I mean I'm still wearing it giving oh yeah I'm just you know and everyone asked me why I didn't sell my G watch because I know there will be updates Android wear that could potentially make it a far better experience yeah sure and its current iteration I don't care for the second a major update comes train droid where I will download the second it's out put it on that G watch and give it a whole nother shot the right now this is not about the watch it is about the software right yeah um let's see here but uh oh here's a nokia question will Microsoft nokia released a 15-30 or 1030 after the lackluster or Aoife announcements yeah I can see what you think the announcement city for were lackluster but I actually really like the 830 and its price point 300 something bucks it's actually a really nice phone but I get it it's not you know it's on a flagship I think we will see updates to these phones particular I'd like to see something with the tent 10 20 days update to you know whether it's a 1030 or whatever and I hope so but you know recent rumors are suggesting that we're going to move towards microsoft branded so it'll be like Microsoft Lumia which makes sense because nokia wasn't talked about very much alpha as a brand although they had you know they had like the charging plate stuff which is obviously a nokia product 15-30 another interesting question I don't know um I really 15-30 for me was like really big up curious on on how well it's selling as opposed to say something like the 930 which to me seems to do better with the whole windows that's just me yeah okay just one more question then we'll we'll get a pure from so I Raj is iphone 6 plus the iPad Mini Mini yes well folks we thank you for joining us on the 21st episode the TechnoBuffalo show as always we do appreciate if you head over to iTunes and if you can 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