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and welcome to episode 31 of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm live your to host for today Shawna nani editor-in-chief of the site and i'm joined bags ticket of editor mobile Todd Hazleton everybody how you doing today Todd good it's an exciting day in Mobile it is hahaha we just had Jacob one of our writers at the blackberry event in New York City the event was focused on the blackberry classic that's officially available today in the United States 449 dollars unlock you find it on Amazon and blackberry site but I found it interesting I think because the whole time and we don't have to talk about this too much because we have other topics talked about but I think the whole time you know the blackberry is comparing it to the 9900 the bowl that launched in 2011 and so like how this is better than that it's like like of course it's better it's it's you know whatever more than three years from then and and the other thing is like the blackberry passport just launched I actually really like that phone you know for a couple reasons if you're a blackberry user form factors a little different but it is the blackberry passport has better specs sort of like across the board than the blackberry classic and I don't know it's just weird I know what blackberry is trying to do they're trying to cater to their fans that have been around for a long time they really like the bold and not something more that form factor but i don't know i think they should go like direct to enterprise if that's where they want to go or like I just don't know I don't see it working out it's like this huge new flagship for you well I think this just proves that BlackBerry's go to party like it's 2011 yeah I I just don't I mean yeah I can understand there's still some fans out there of the form factor and that's fine but I don't know when you're comparing your newest phone to a foam from three years ago it just seems especially if our company that's in their financial state yeah it's just weird because they're like the screen is sixty percent larger and it's like I don't know 3.47 3.5 inches big it's like what III don't get it what we're excited to try it out and you know give it a go but yeah yeah we'll have it um so we'll have plenty of coverage of it and stuff like that we have pictures hands-on pictures coming yeah just at first blush it's kind of like what verizon will have it too so we'll see what the on contract prices maybe they'll have some kind of you know subsidy that brings it down and i know john chen the CEO was saying you know we're back in the carrier's focus you know they thanked AT&T for the partnership eighteens he's also carrying the passport so stuff like that which is you know good news for blackberry yeah exactly well we've got a question that leads into one of the topics that we add as we were going to discuss today from Christopher miles thoughts on t-mobile's new data station stash station today to stash promotion yes it's the datastage uh yeah go for it Todd um ok so to start we can go with the name i read an interesting article on Sina yesterday by Roger Cheng had said they so they went with stash I guess because AT&T and you know by way of singular still owned roll over and if you're watching from when they had like rollover minutes with singular it made it really popular back in the day and if you're watching the live webcast with David Pogue yesterday and John ledger on the announcement luxury kept correcting him saying no 12 data stash no it's called a stash and then on the conference call he said well we're calling it stash because it sounds cool and he's like does that sounds so much cooler like stash it some role over roller so 90s and I guess the thing is like 820 owns the rights to roll over so like that so he kept correct him which I thought was funny um but otherwise I mean I thought it was really cool at first I was confused the wording the t-mobile used in its releases the Press said like if you buy extra data that data rules over and so I know t-mobile has like one gigabyte three gigabyte five gigabyte and then unlimited plans and so to me I thought that that meant if you had a three gigabyte plan and you ran out of data and you bought more high-speed data because it's all it's all technically unlimited just saw toes down after and you drop off LT if you consume all that and I thought it meant that you had to buy more and then that data rolled over it actually it's anybody who has a three gig plan or more so three or five big plan with a phone in one gig plan or more on a tablet because 200 gigs there are 200 megabytes rather is free with tablets so if you're on t-mobile and you have three gigs of data now and you use I don't know just one gig and the rest of it rolls over into next month and t-mobile's also tossing in 10 gigs of free data into everybody stash so everybody starts with that 10 gigs that you can use and then once that's used and you have to use it within a year then your data start rolling over into it's on to the stash so it's pretty cool I mean I think it's a great way to to attract customers it's cool but there were so many little rules when you got down into it oh yeah when you look at it's like it doesn't apply that 200 megabytes never carries over so the free which is fine i means 200 megabytes but it's also like doesn't apply to any of their promotions so i think their current one is like four lines and a family for a hundred bucks like doesn't apply there and a couple others so just like there's a lot of fine print as usual with t-mobile I think um but you know I think for most people it's another uncarrier step that's really compelling for me I actually as much as t-mobile xtube a I really like to date a bucket like I have 40 gigs I never yeah I don't use it all but I like not having to worry about using it all and that's why I paid for it and I'm fine with that I'm fine if I don't use it on it doesn't roll or whatever so you know I know they like to bash that say like but you're paying for it well you know at the end of the day I pay I think about 200 bucks on 18 t44 lines with 40 gigs of data that's like 50 bucks online and that's not bad to me I mean I think that's a great deal and you know versus i guess going with tmobile you maybe I'd save money but then I'm down to like three gigs align five gigs on an awesome yeah I i did buy an interesting that when we were on the the press call that it was a lot more about why does your service still suck indoors then actually the press asking questions about the data stash right and you know is it leisure look I always say Legare much later okay so ledger kept going well you know we're working on that and that's old thinking but you know the truth of the matter is yes they still do have problems indoors and well I've enjoyed all the uncarrier announcements I do wonder if they wouldn't be better search it's just like say take six months and do nothing more than work on their network make sure that they're getting rid of all those old thoughts about their network well that's what they are doing they are doing it with morning announcements yesterday was there talking about cat 12 I think it's good nope I'm sorry band 12 LTE and the 700 megahertz spectrum that they bought because it's lower spectrum it penetrates buildings a lot easier so they are doing that in some areas and they're trying to build up a lot of their older ricci the edge networks just to HS PAH hspa+ then spreading out but I mean even on the press call yesterday it was very much like a lot of people complaining like if you're outside of an urban area it drops off like a cliff and like you're seeing GPRS on your t mobile phone and that's crazy but the other end of the spectrum you have wide band LG rolling out just hit New York City and apparently you know that's promising speeds up to 100 megabits per second which is really fast that's on the par with um with what ents doing with their LTE Advanced Network and what uh verizon doing the same thing and they branded XLT in some markets so t-mobile is not you know it's just it's just those like areas where there's not coverage they need to pick up but otherwise I think they're doing a pretty good job expanding their network right and yeah and I did hear that yesterday on the call you if you're outside of an urban area you have no luck well I live in a rural community and we actually do have fairly good t-mobile service here you know we have LTE here you know I anytime I'm in now admittedly where I live I live out in the woods I and I actually live a bit down in a valley no carrier gets me here we cried we've tried multiple carriers how could I I'm not blaming t-mobile for my lack of service at my house unless somebody wants to come and build a tower like right in the center of my property which is not going to happen I actually I was talking with I won't reveal who banned somebody from a carrier that's in that line where they're there you know they go around put up the towers mm-hmm and they said it was funny how everytime that you know they get all these phone calls every month from people well I've got a piece of property that you could put a tower on it's the highest point in the county if it's amazing how many people feel they have the highest point in the county everybody everybody that calls them has the highest point in the county yeah it's not that simple unfortunately but yeah and to be fair t-mobile admitted that they you know they have issues with indoors and that's why they were doing the personal hotspot stuff which is pretty much free now right thank Reed $25 deposit yeah what is equal areas for personal cell spot yeah personal cell alone at least they're admitting in not just being like a network you know yeah exactly anything because they are doing something but no I I applaud t-mobile they are trying to shake up the industry and the industry definitely needed it you know for how long did we I think pretty much everybody now offers unlimited texting and for how long were hill Oh 20 bucks a month for texting yeah for wantin and when the analysis came out they cost them like a point zero zero one cents per text yeah cuz they're sent over like the package that they need to be sending anyway exactly yeah it's a portion of the bandwidth that is has to be there anyway and it takes up like no space yeah yeah I'm a much bigger texture than I am a caller anymore so you I always prefer in the mid text you're right because t-mobile a lot always did shake up things I mean you've seen verizon 18t react i know a teensy probably like two months ago said you know anybody any customers are like our plans can double their their data just call us so i'm on a 20 gig plan i called them and said I you know put me on your 40 gig plan no charge I mean that's great and that seems like to me it seemed like they're just trying to like keep their customers make sure people are leaving and apparently this quarter will see some churn from verizon and 18 teen that customers aren't you leaving but I'm happy where I am I think you know it really depends on where you live to a lot of people exactly it really does come down to who gives you the best service where you spend the majority of your time right yeah and that's another thing I I think one of the brightest things that a tmobile did was the test drive you know because you know there I thought a little bit about switching to verizon but I have no way to bring a verizon phone out to my property and test it yeah exactly I need to test drive but i'm not sure like speaking of indoor problems i'm 29 stories up and i remember when i worked in an office in New York it you know it's real hard for anybody to get cell connection here my wife is on verizon i'm on 80 just not good service yeah exactly this high exactly well and other topics that we wanted to discuss today we are a little over two weeks away from the who will get the plague nah nobody CS where somebody is inevitably going to get sick i hope we skip that this year man yeah it you know the rule of averages you know i'm hoping I've got a couple of years before I'm the victim again save it yeah and you know the thing is you get sick and hopefully it's you get sick like when you're back and then hopefully you know it's a slower day because everything just happened at CES but you never know sometimes like Sean were what we're referencing here so I got sick but that was two years ago right yeah two years ago it got the flu at CES and yeah it's the plague there yeah it was bad I that that's the only like the same time my life I went to the emergency room ah yeah and to his credit Todd and John Koch came and retrieved me from the ER that evening and that that was a fun time let me tell you but no so CES is almost upon us as our inboxes remind us every other minute whoo-hoo for those of you that there is one definite drawback to being in the press and attending a major event like CES because when we file for our press credentials that list is shared with all the vendors that will be at CES and so we get this in the stream of emails yeah I I shot I see you're attending CES would you like to come by and see our doo dah yep we'll never share your phone number oh really I don't share my phone number I you I when I was younger oh okay I've never shared my phone number do they call you oh yeah oh yeah oh like the emails yeah when I worked in an office for a magazine I get you know non-stop phone during it and then the voice mails to if you're not picking up oh that's the emails are bad enough yeah and we love going to see us it's just it's amazing because we only do have so much time when we're at CES and we get these emails that yo it would take us weeks to get through and meet with everybody that emails us yeah I mean there's stuff that we don't even cover I mean that note that you wouldn't expect us to cover it for the emails we get like I can't even give an example like lawn clipping smart lawn clipping bag collector I don't you know this is like oh I know I know other companies we've never heard of and that is what they there's CES is a gigantic events and you know as we're walking the aisles you know sometimes you walk past a booth you're like why is this here yeah why did you come to CES you know it's just it's a little confusing but you know that's the the joys of going to events like this i hear ups pulling up outside so i may be interrupted here in just a moment ah yes the joys of being the only person in my office but anyway so yes we're deep into our plans for CES and it's going to be a full week as it always is is there anything at see us that you're particularly excited to be looking for this year Todd um well I think if sony has some of their I mean the problem is you know I can't talk to what i did i already dunno oh sure but i think sony's might have some the experience stuff those are rumors and i honestly don't know right now we'll see it but xperia for maybe the tablet maybe and holds her like a new phablet ooh but you know I think really i'm going to be it's a different kind of show this year like i said an earlier episode it's usually I guess moral Congress is in February or it's usually if every the sheraton March and we just had even September and I it sounds to me like it's going to be a quiet show on the mobile side so I'm excited to actually explore sort of other areas this year if there's not a lot of phones and tablets but just to give everybody an idea of how crazy it is on Monday um our day goes like this samsung LG and then all at the same time there's the ATT developer summit monsters press conference shark followed by Panasonic a sous Qualcomm Toyota samsung again uh ZTE Sony and then peplum so like that's just one day and that's the press day so it's money so that's really busy but then we go into tuesday and wednesday and thurs where we have meetings and we walk around the floor and you know there are announcements that are being made through press releases I'll continue it looks like Sean had to step away cuz UPS just showed up but in general but monday is the busiest days press conferences we usually have one or two people at each iran to offense literally run to get back and forth roy last year another member of the team he and i were driving back and forth between press conferences and then tuesday is usually meetings i have several and set up and again it's like running around and hopefully a lot of the team we're going to have everybody full-time staff a technobuffalo there this year so they'll all be scouring the show floor i'll be in meetings and let's see then tuesday night is showstoppers which is sort of like pep com2 if you aren't familiar showstoppers and pep calm are like mini CES is in a room it's sort of like even if it's like a big restaurant that's rented out and there's just tables of gadgets everywhere and then the press people for them so it's only open the press two so I'm just explaining Sean just got back I'm sorry about that I'm and Jose Donna first and so there's just these rows of tables and gadgets we're like you'll have companies like you know Lenovo and cannon and I don't know accessory makers like literally all the consumer names you seem like a Best Buy would be there they might have like their new tablets and laptops and printers and gadgets all over the place so you see them you're eating your food and that so that's showstopper some pep com so that's Monday Tuesday night and that's aside from the show floor um where there's like infinite gadgets and car tech and accessories and gaming things everybody I remember I know I've told this story before on a podcast somewhere back in 2011 the iPad it was still fairly new it so there were lots of tablets all over CEOs and I'm just wandering down the aisles and I spot some tablets I just stopped to look at him a guy comes over he's like I talk to you about our tablets I'm like sure and at this point it was a Windows 7 tablet and it was horrible yeah when 07 wasn't designed for tablets ed so he shows me the first time he gets to the second tablet and I I admit this was highly unprofessional of me and there's a part of me that regrets it and part of me that lasts about it he gets to the second way he goes and this is our iPad killer oh boy I'm just like and he looks at me eh what's the problem sigh oh no no nothing nothing please please keep telling me about your I bet killer I it was some company I'd never even heard of windows seven was not designed to run on tablets no no hey this guy was so this is our iPad killer this is going to bring you were gonna be the number one table I'm like uh-huh okay buddy yeah that's the thing to you I mean we see a lot of products and so I feel like sometimes in the people were talking to um if they're from a like a small company in general like they're sort of told this message they believe this message it like this is the best and like there's like a man like it's not you have to stand there any way I I know yeah because you I'd be polite and all that but there's a lot of booths you walk by and you make the mistake of going yeah tell me about it yeah within two songs you're like oh no what what what have I done to myself but oh good grief well let's jump into some of the questions we have here and thank you for punching while I was dealing with UCS let's going over our crazy schedule got it it's gotta be nuts man but it'll be nice having everybody together yeah well yeah so here technobuffalo staff all gets together yeah this year's the first time where I was saying when you're gone that everybody's gonna be there all the full time staff yep yep the only people missing will be Eric and run from the gaming department and Killian from the UK although killing did say in one email chain you know if we wanted to jump in a cab in swing by his play haha and you bring him over but yeah sorry Kelly and I don't like tell me happy I would love to see that that bill but jumping into the questions here we have from oh I I should have clicked on this one because there's no way I'm going to pronounce this name correctly mated bojan I I hope I got close would you recommend the Nexus 6 for a holiday purchase is it worth it or should I look for something better man i love the nexus 6 when i played with it and i still want to buy one for myself but I can't and I was telling Sean I've called you know I have a line that's not really tie Danny carrier so I've called to t mobile ATT around here I've emailed Google's PR team like wink I but I want how do I violent like nothing did you just don't have them AT&T told me like we could have won you in two or three days but I'm impatient psychic when i'm going to buy something i want it you know now i want to go to store by really yeah you know me and you know what was like we don't you know we don't have a when i asked their customer support they did have a clear day so I think it's a great phone a lot of people say it's too big I didn't feel that way and if you listen to this podcast you know that I feel like it's like big phones every time I say it um I ever tell you a lot of people who said yeah I know I like big butts no I like big phones and in brandon who also reviews a lot of the products out in irvine has said Todd like just get the Moto X the 2014 you know so it's like same thing a little smaller a little more manageable but I don't know something about it I just I want the nexus 6 so I think it would probably make a great holiday purchase if that's what you're looking for you fine just realize it's big it's a big device it's a big device and also good luck trying to find one yeah good luck charm yeah that's the hard thing but if you can't get it i mean some of things to stand out for me over the moto except you know Brandon was recommending is fun facing speakers I like dat its water resistant stuff like that I don't know I think in the larger display 4k display whatever her sorry UHD 2k display I forget but you know get sharper definitely would go with it yeah definitely let's see here from Christopher miles how do you think Windows 10 will be implemented on the phone side so Microsoft has been pretty forward with that at least like they haven't been you know explaining everything but they've said that it's not going to be like a desktop operating system on your phone I think what they're trying to do is just narrow it all down so you have you know one name for these operating systems and in a familiar look which makes sense so instead of having windows phone and then Windows you just have or Windows 8 or 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 they just it's one family name but I don't know how it's gonna you know work hopefully they have some kind of real sink but and another thing I've talked about a lot on this podcast is I like iOS and Android because you know hangouts is cross-platform largely now I'd love to see more text messaging without just google voice text messaging across all platforms and an iOS same thing you know with Yosemite now an iOS a really cross platform and microsoft hasn't really given me a reason to say I need a windows phone like I used right behind my laptop here or Windows machines and I use them all time and I'd love to use Windows Phone I have an xbox one more often but there's just no reason for me to pick up a Windows Phone really anymore the apps are kind of hurting hardware's great the apps are kind of hurting and even the absent microsoft releases so if you look at office cross-platform it runs better and looks better on the iOS and Android so it's just kind of like I don't know seems like Microsoft notice it too but hopefully Windows 10 on the phone side improves a lot of that and you know I think it's a great chance for Microsoft to show it yeah I wish them luck and hopefully the app store will finally get to where it needs to be I think that's still a lot of their problem yeah it is but yeah we'll just have to see from Sasha Mahal thoughts on the pebble android app 2.3 beta that supports actionable notifications I think this is great I I saw it it looks neat but I didn't install it did you install it I know you went out not yet I I've got a notice about new software for my pebble that just came in a little bit ago but I haven't updated yet yeah that's cool to explain to people out there or listening android air pebble just released a new software for android that supports the actual notification so if you get something like a text message you can reply but it's obviously the pebble doesn't have a touchscreen so you have to use the buttons on the side to kind of like scroll through preset replies and stuff like that but you can you can now interact with the notifications that you get on your wrist which is neat and it's something that Android wear offers so yeah exactly I wonder what pebble is going to have at CES I mean if you remember last year they had their the pebble steel made its debut I think yeah I'm curious if you have something new coming I remember that because we ran into a pebble employee we all knew one day and we quickly check their wrists to see what they were wary they're like no no I don't have it on we all knew it was coming yeah but we just didn't know the the specifics of it but yeah the pebble employees were real careful on Sunday to not wear the new one yeah it was kind of funny because everyone that walked by them was like okay somewhere yeah but then later in the show we ran in the same person and you know we found it so yeah yeah exactly i I haven't heard about them introducing anything new at mayas but wearables are definitely going to be a major portion of the CES this year and there's just there's no question about it yeah it's gonna be crazy I'm excited though um where it was for me I just my wife had a bunch of she had she held an event she got a bunch of the jawbone up24 and I really liked the original jawbone up and this one was just like I don't know what it is maybe now that I'm just so you sim I was like I just don't like I wasn't crazy about it was annoying me it was bothersome on my wrist and so I think comforts gonna be you know coming big into play now and we just covered some news today the new Fitbit charge apparently is causing some year issues but not the same as before with the Fitbit force which really costs like nasty rashes yeah so I think functionality in the case of like jawbone is stuff it's really great but let's get now we're gonna work towards comfort because now it's not just it's not new like anything can track my steps these days so what else can you do yeah yeah I I totally agree with you and I I thought about picking up a 24 but I just I'm like I don't like I just don't want to go down that road I know me I'll get obsessed with how many steps I've taken each day I saw an article today I think it's on computer world talking about this guy is seen thingy he started walking and realized he was taking like you know 1,500 2,000 steps a day and then got obsessed with walking everywhere to build up like 20,000 steps a day and I think doctors recommend 10,000 yeah much far more than I do yeah you and I don't get anywhere close to that from Christopher Mouse do you think the next Galaxy S project zero will be able to reverse Samsung's recent troubles in market share and to an extent mindshare yeah I mean I think that's going to be the goal and just let me I want to bring up that market share because that's a big point um they just lost big over in q3 compared to q3 of last year let me see here the figures right in front of me but so project zero while bringing this up is Samsung's gold is sort of start start fresh and try to reverse its sort of sinking market share and I well actually I think it's supposed to be the galaxy s6 is project zero but I think the overall idea is to reverse its sinking market share and focus on a fewer models to make sure it's not just sort of blasting phones out all over the place but here are the figures um Samsung's slice of the smartphone market is at twenty four point four percent this is according to gartner recently uh during the third quarter of this year that's down from 30 2.1 percent last year so apples was up just a hair 12.1 to 12.7 but meanwhile you're seeing like Huawei jumped from four step the 5.3 and then show me xiao mi show me jump from 1.5% 25.2 % during the same quarter so really Samsung if you if you look at those figures and who's eating into its market share you're looking at huawei and show me the Chinese manufacturers that are actually sort of everybody's competitors these days and so what Samsung's recent troubles are due to do to those two companies i would argue do you think there's any chance and this just crossed my mind so it may not be a formerly fully formed thought as of yet maybe it's not so much the number of phones the samsung is producing but perhaps people are really tired of TouchWiz yeah well I wouldn't be surprised by that either but now when you come to I mean there's you and I and our readers and our listeners hear that no touch who is in either like it or don't like it but an acting you know for the large part of us like I know members of our staff we aren't huge fans of touch choice I think it feels pretty clunky I usually just replace it right away with another third-party launcher and meanwhile i really like other launchers like HTC Sense but i think if you go out in the market nath like you know joke consumer what do you think about samsung touchwiz are you like I don't know your time oh no no I fully agree with you your average consumer doesn't even know it's called TouchWiz yeah but they do know that Samsung software looks alike right and maybe they're getting sick of it yeah that's true exactly so yeah it's not based on you know they know it's called TouchWiz it's just they know Samsung you know maybe they've picked up an HTC phone or ZTE phone or whatever and God oh this feels better based on the software yeah I mean I think that's probably a huge part of it and why Samsung dialed back some of the options that are available in its phones I mean like in terms of software because there was throwing all the options at you're like I don't want what is this you know yeah super confusing and I think yeah touch was to me and I don't know if it's experience for everybody else out there but when I on a samsung phone or play with the phone for a long time it's great for a couple months and then later on just get super super sluggish and it feels like it's those extra things because I don't see it on other Android devices and so I think that you know just clean up TouchWiz or just you know get rid of it I'd love to see Samsung do something like Motorola so just focus on some small tweaks and then sell the hardware they do and I think that would be fantastic right right I don't know just just a random thought that crossed my mind you and again I agree with you your average joe consumer doesn't know it's called TouchWiz and they don't know that HTC's is called sense or whatever but they may just look at a phone and go oh this feels a little better it feels like it moves faster or something so just yeah yeah just a random thought but yeah samsung definitely needs to reverse things the hard thing is i guess with all of this is i also don't want samsung to stop doing new things like obviously the phablet they they kind of made that really popular with the note and then they the S Pen is great too and the note edge just really neat I mean it's not for everybody but it's really neat so I'd hate to see Samsung you know dial back too much it'd just be like oh we're not gonna try two things anymore because I mean I think in a lot of ways that's that's being a huge contributor to their success yeah yeah I totally agree from Sasha bahal this is off topic and directed towards me hey Shante still read comics up so which ones you enjoy reading I still read comics but I don't read anything that's highly current a couple reasons number one being the price it's just too expensive anymore and I no longer by can buy them at wholesale and number two being that they've just got like DC's gone so many directions with the new 52 and all that so I still read comics but I tend to find myself either a reading independence like I really like a current series called letter 44 and I also go back and read a lot of stuff that maybe I missed over the errors or maybe stuff I just want to reread yeah so I I'm still into comics just not that current uh let's see here from we got bunch of questions here from Christopher miles i know i haven't gotten the chance but has anyone on the team tested sprints tribe and LTE oh that's good question I haven't either but I I I wonder if the irvine guys has not quite sure it's good question yeah I I would love to be able to tell you what we think of a bad other one of those markets market things uh sorta like team well with everybody these days you know the the faster LTE options so yeah yeah exactly oh let's see here uh from sasha hall what are your tech predictions for 2015 course of phones yeah i don't know i think we'll see wearables become mainstream i hope so night i think it seems like it that Apple sword is going to usher in more of the mobile pay experience and I don't mean that Apple is gonna win it by any means I'm just saying I think they're gonna make it more common for everybody and so that you know on Android to it becomes more accepted everywhere so just like oh that's Apple pay or oh that's your you know Google Wallet payment I think that's going to be huge this year i hope it really takes off because i've been waiting since i've been covering phones i'm in dream of like actually doing this all over the place and i really want to see it do well and then wearables obviously like I was saying hopefully the Apple watch helps bring that mainstreaming I don't know why it seems like to me but an Android wear hopefully for a bit too but when you think about it like Apple has become in a lot of ways to transcend I'm not being a fanboy here which people love to sounds like boy I'm saying when you look at when you look at the market at least when I go out and I just talked to people like I'm at a restaurant I talk to people they'll say when's the Apple watch come something like that number and I'll have my moto 360 on right I'll be like oh with like this is already out but it's that kind of question that helps drive everything because then they're like but I want one now too like oh I can buy the pack and go by the Moto 360 and then so all of a sudden like people were questioning wearables are like when can I get aware of where can I or and so in a lot of ways that's good news for the whole industry and I think that'll kick off a lot this year too when I was on vacation I got asked two or three times if my pebble was an Apple watch yeah yeah because they could see it was not a normal display there is that Apple watch him no it's not out yet it's called a pebble but it I think you're a hundred percent right you know no matter where you sit on the Apple fence you have to realize that where Apple goes people tend to follow and just like the story I was telling about in 2011 and we mean consumers by the way exactly not saying like samsung or motorola copy no no no no of course not but Apple has the ability to bring a concept into the forefront even if they weren't the first company to do it right yeah they were not the first company to do a tablet I you know I I don't know how often people oh you realize they didn't know I know they didn't do the first tablet I Bree I realized that Microsoft was trying to do is far back as daily thousands you know I still mourn the loss of the courier haha I wanted to try that tablet so bad did look cool oh that thing looks so cool but Apple has the has the mindshare to be able to bring an idea that already exists to the forefront and you know so yes you can say they're not being innovative that's fine maybe they're not but they are able to get your average consumer thinking about a product and then you know people always talk about the Apple halo effect and they mean it in the sense of you know once you buy one Apple product you buy other apple products but Apple does have a halo effect that extends to the entire industry really you know so yes the apple watch will come along it was not the first wearable but it will bring wearables to the attention of the mass market I think they have a tablet same thing happen with the iphone and smartphones boss oh I will give credit where credit's you samsung to so people really don't think that I'm just like we're touting Apple when you look at phablets right like Samsung made those popular now you have the iphone 6 plus so it happens in a lot of ways across the industry but oh yeah I mean I i was with jon rettinger when he had the galaxy no I I know I've told this story before when he had the Galaxy Note at CES before it was out in the US he and I if he pulled that out I started asking him not to pull it out when we were walking places because everywhere we went somebody would stop us and want to look at it yeah and now that phone like that sighs my figurative lost but it's pretty common I mean yeah like everybody else of fun that sighs yeah exactly but no total credit to see him something I they completely created the the phablet category with the Galaxy Note hmm yeah I without question yo will you depend on your feelings on phablet you can either thank them or hey old Gary that go die in a fire but ya know Samsung totally created the phablet category without question mm-hmm let's see what else have we got here um I got done I'm gonna tackle this one because it really piqued my interest from Christopher miles do you guys think information received from whistleblowers trying to expose an injustice and hackers trying to cause harm should be treated differently by the media that's a really interesting question um question no I mean the media is supposed to report the news as it happens and and that's what makes it so tough right so you can't you're not supposed to report the news having either side of like saying like a whistle blowers good or bad or hackers good or bad you're supposed to say that like here's what happens and here are the facts so yes one question is should it be treated differently like no it should be treated as news in this as you know right what's the word I'm looking for it's when we're parsing a story technically we are supposed to be impartial a and that as hard as we try there's always going to be a little bit of ice that comes out one way or another but i think it's like say we're writing an opinion piece or an editorial i think it comes down to intent and also the way the information is passed along you know I i know this is regarding the Sony hack and the GOP and all that and probably Snowden yeah exactly which is better yeah exactly and that there's a really it's certainly not a question I can answer in a sense it's a very interesting thought I would say there is a vast difference you know well let's take the whistleblower for the fifa that supposedly there was a bribes past long for the Russian and Qatar World Cups you know he passed his information along to the correct people he passed it along to officials and then it got out to the media if you just run to the media immediately or you blackmail them or blackmail whoever you have the information from then I think it's very different creatures yeah and I liked anybody trying to cause harm I mean obviously the media like whistleblowers and who you're talking about it's gonna very differently but if somebody's trying to cause harm in this case hackers and we're getting into Sony now and and a lot of serious threats then I think you know that has to be treated as a threat a lot of ways and so in that way differently in the sense that like their security and privacy and all those kind of things to worry about like of innocent civilians is something I well even if you go back to the all those leaks celebrity nude pictures right you know that was a definite hacking that wasn't a whistleblower right that provided no no positive game whatsoever you know and it was not exposing and injustice or yo bringing anything to light that needed to be brought to light yeah that was just somebody go ahead look what I found Frank so I think that they're there are vast differences and there's an auslly that that a for anyone that's interested i'm going to promote another podcast for just a second for anyone that's really interested in matters of journalism there's a great podcast produced by the University of Missouri in Columbia its broadcast on their NPR station kbi a and it's called views of the news you can find it on iTunes views like you're viewing something views of the news comes out every Wednesday and it's run by their journalism school and it's a half-hour show they go over all the big topics and media for that week and they discuss the morals of how it should have been covered did it get covered correctly so on so forth I've been listening to it for years I love that show that's awesome I'm really a great show yeah definitely the best journalism schools in the country exactly exactly so if you're really interested in the the mechanics of journalism and the moralities and all that give it a listen I love that show I have no connection to them so totally unbiased it's just something I've been listening to for years but uh that is going to bring this week's show to a close I I did look at the calendar Todd and there will not be a show next week because I forgot you're out on Wednesday that's right but we will we will try our hardest for the following week because otherwise we're going to have a three-week gap so no show next week so for all the all you who celebrate christmas merry Christmas to you add to all of our Jewish friends Happy Hanukkah that's going on right now I did it do you have the holidays in your Google calendar Todd no I don't is so funny because right now be the way they're writing Hanukkah you know because it's multiple nights right but they've got him written as Hanukkah and then followed by a Roman numeral so it's like movie sequels ah Hanukkah to Annika to the reckoning Hanukkah three I want know who said around but let's put Roman numerals find it yeah I'm saying like Hanukkah night too it's Hanukkah too it's awesome this time he wants revenge so no show next week but we will be back the following week that will be off again for CES but we'll have lots of interesting things to talk about after that yeah as always you can find us on iTunes by searching for the tech club Buffalo show we do appreciate if you rain review us that does help out the show you can find us on Pocket 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