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The TechnoBuffalo Show Episode #037 – Virtual Reality, PAX and more!

2015-03-04
and welcome to episode 37 of the TechnoBuffalo show I'm love your to house for divination on the editor-in-chief the site and I am joined by a long missing member of the team executive editor of gaming joey davidson hello it's been what 17 years since my last yes so I don't know I got a broken desk chair Sean as you know and it is just let us say this is this is what you missed Lyndon reserves listening to the audio show he's just rocking back and forth it's a lot more than that okay well for those that have thought you were dead you know or not no no unfortunately I guess yes I'm sure there are some that wish you know I was dead but uh sorry I'm still here but so it's not an accepted charm sorry Todd is on his way back from Mobile World Congress after a flight delay it well just before we jump into everything shall we talk about the TechnoBuffalo travel that makes for the past week yeah it's been pretty bad man um it's just just between Todd and I and and what's really been killing me is like we have 10 inches of snow if I supposed to move in tonight it's 10 inches of snow man yeah taller that a baby if babies where I don't know it's a weird thing parents here would you get rid of what's my dog I got stopped in irvine from even leaving because Dallas had like a half inch of snow yeah watch out yeah we got a half inch of snow on the ground yeah and I was stuck there until monday afternoon who I was supposed to fly out saturday morning well I got I got everything all fixed i knew that i'm going to pax east up in Boston so that's that's everything is fixed we're still tending the show we got our freelancer he's going to where we're good to go it was just this morning was me talking to jetblue like a chart you try to be so polite in those situations but at the same time I'm kind of like I know you didn't do this to me but I gotta take it out on somebody dad well when American canceled my flight they their whole time was so long they were like we'll give you an auto call back so I'm it was like in more than two hours I was like how great I I laid down I was just like I'm just gonna rest in whatever I fell asleep one would be in the morning they finally called me back and they expect me to be coherent enough to tell them yeah that flight the choice it sounds great Yeah right it totally lines up with everything i have scheduled I don't know at least Hilton had some soothing calypso music for me to listen to you oh good grief so yeah tectum of those having a great time with travel what's it like we really have but so you brought up pack see so we actually have a question here from social Mahal and regards to that ok Joey could you explain what packs exactly is and what is and what is it like for those who have not gone there um well okay that so PAX East is actually my favorite convention but that that's partially in part because I love the city of Boston it's one of my favorite cities in the world it's a really cool city it's just old and it's clean and everyone there is really nice pax let's see it's the penny arcade expo if you ever heard of Penny Arcade the webcomic those guys gained such a following that they were able to put on convention started with pax prime and out in Seattle that is their major convention and then they start at PAX East after that we've been fortunate enough to go every single year um for someone who's never been before if if you have any experience with gaming or comic conventions it's very similar to those it's just gaming focus which is really neat if you've never been to one it's like a giant nerd festival where people dress and silly clothes and you just go in and play games they have a whole section i love this of i don't know if you're familiar with like tabletop games i know you are Shawn like warhammer and like us I'm talking about the crab where you buy the models that you hand paint yourself like those they have executive edition tabletop game tables that cost anywhere from 10 to 15 grand they are crazy I just like to walk through that section and think like man I am a nerd but this is just I don't know if I can handle this I I had a very brief dance with warhammer knock then realized it was going to put me in the poor house yeah and I like I got out of it you joke you know but there are people who like take out second mortgages and stuff just to stay into that game that's cried that's correct i just like collecting pokemon man i don't know about well of course you know as you know I go to England every year for vacation and I see Games Workshop stores everywhere right and he only ever see like one or two people in them but one day I saw one in a mall and there were two teenage girls that were taking painting lessons and I was like you can't hey that's not a demographic that I'm used to seeing with warhammer yeah I need more power tool oh absolutely well I was going to the club and those games are really cool it's just you got to be committed Oh hugely committed it's amazing so it's not just video games then four packs it's a mixture of gaming yeah it's it's well it's it's gaming board gaming card gaming I mean I've gone and I've learned how to play really weird card games which is cool to like but this is kind of getting a little bit personal i guess but like my my friends my family i know you know that Sean we have a family gaming night and it's not like it's not like me and my mom and my dad it's like myself and like art 10 or so couples just come over and we drink and we play games and so I have brought games back from pax that we've all played and kind of laughed about which is pretty cool too so who currently has the statue the other it is in actually first-time winner we have been playing we have a statue that goes around and the rule is that you have to add one piece of decoration to it without removing any and there is a girl in our group who never wanted she's like the only person that hasn't wanted over the course of like a year and a half and she finally did so obviously we all accused you're cheating but whatever it's going to come back with a spectacular new decoration if it does not gonna be pissed I I particularly of the googly eyes but so yes Joey will be at PAX East all this weekend he'll be bringing us coverage along with a freelancer that he's taken with him named mike white mm-hmm so you you've never seen that name on the site but you you will see it this weekend and it's always amazing how much coverage it's not really about them the major you know the Triple A titles it this out more about the Indies and that that's the reason I like it because you're talking about things that normally we wouldn't hear about right and what they do for fan conventions like this the big the big publishers like Ubisoft ur da they just send their game out with with demo drivers like they don't send any any big-name developers they don't send any any like actual people of influence over the game they just send people they basically send tour guides um so you don't really glean any huge information from the games like you wouldn't need three so that's why I'm more interested in the indie stuff of pax you actually go and you talk to the like two or three people who are making the game and they're the people that paid for the booth and they're the people that said it all out it's pretty cool well I I know actually Todd messaged me this morning because he had a message for you and I just heard I'd save it for here new HTC virtual reality helmet will be at pax and we will at the steam booth just can't odd get us an appointment I i will ask todd todd is now finally in the air but i will talk with him and he but he just wanted you to at least know who's going to be there and that should be a demo unit that you can try out what what a Segway Sean I know because of course I see why I didn't tell you before the show I do that leads us into our second subject this burgeoning virtual reality market that I'm not sure its burgeoning for the consumers but it's definitely burgeoning for the companies that want to make these helmets I am I am genuinely nervous about where virtual reality is going that's not because I'm not a believer and I think it's cool tech or whatever that's fine it's it's that I I think that right now we're getting too much in the way of options if if you were alive in the 80s then you saw the console crash right before the nintendo entertainment system became like the console you had like five or six different platforms like everyone was making consoles Kaliko magnavox atari like who made the ah cheese there was the intellivision in television colecovision the atari 2600 the magnavox and you know panasonic i think was making something animals I I had a colleague oh so but that which had a very weird controller um so knobby thing here is really good I can't see your pass just me I don't know what you're doing down there Oh Europe I'll be in my hands my eyes are up here huh but but because of all that diversity and platforms consumers didn't know where to turn and there weren't enough sales to make any one platform successful so you had all these companies putting all this money into this tech and then it just went nowhere in the gaming marketplace collapsed on there was this fear that home video gaming was done dead and the Nintendo came up and you know what happened next but I'm kind of afraid of something very similar happening with with virtual reality I mean right now we have facebook in oculus doing their thing project Morpheus and Stevie are and the way that that steam is talking about their virtual reality stuff is that they're going to have partners so it's not just going to be HTC that's putting out steam VR it's going to be every company that wants to get into it just like the steam machines that's scary to me I don't I you know I just don't I don't think it's good news for companies it might be good for consumers the the cream of the crop will hopefully float to the top but what it means in the meantime I'm not sure now don't you think though that possibly Morpheus has the biggest leg up just because of the installed user base of the PlayStation I think that the issue with Morpheus is going to be one hundred percent around its pricing the way that you're going to get the PlayStation consumers to buy it two more pieces by putting it out for cheap and I don't know if they could do that I think that the currently the the headsets that have the biggest potential for success or at least long-term success would be the oculus and steam VR and the only reason why I put those over project Morpheus is because if virtual reality is expensive the only people willing to pay for it are going to be your hyper enthusiasts game gamers you know the people who are on pc i'm not saying that no one's going to buy a project Morpheus that's ridiculous i'm sure people will buy it but it seems to me that pc gamers are more willing to spend money in order to get those types of products and console gamers are there more like to spend more money on their platforms because they want the most out of them whereas pcr playstation gamers and xbox gamers are kind of work attempt with what they have making sweeping generalizations here I know that but I just don't I think that the biggest chance for success might be valve if they can get it right price it right then it could be huge yeah see for me it's very much I have been burned so many times over the years by her fields for consoles going back to the power glove yes I owned a power glove I I have shame in my life me too buddy hire the wrong okay I didn't have robbed I had the ps2 hard drive which was pretty much useless Wow yeah the Sega CD Drive I had that but that was the only way you can play off with a dolphin man yeah and also what was alone in the dark that the sorority oh yeah it was like that it was like that killing the slasher game that was filmed with live action and all that yeah and start dana plato from different strokes I didn't know that because you know that's just knowledge that you have but no I gave you talking about yeah the game it came packed it with a sewer shark yeah the nineties oh I know so I mean I I have a long history being burned by peripherals and so anymore when one is announced I'm just I'm gonna have to wait and see no taking the wait-and-see attitude is what's best for most consumers but you also have to have the early adopters to develop a successful platform no no I will say this as someone who completely hated the idea of 3d going in 3d televisions and seeing where that's wound up like I'm not saying like oh we predicted this or whatever but it just seems so very mission overly expensive unappealing I don't feel the same way about VR so and that's a grain of salt in some anecdotal evidence there but i think it's different I think it will be successful I'm just not sure how successful yeah yeah I and 3d television is a great example because it's gone nowhere 3d the thing about 3d that I don't think a lot of people realize is that it was designed as a gimmick to get people into movie theaters it smell-o-vision when when the television set came out and started to be widely popular in the 50s and 60s movie theaters started experiencing a lot of problem selling tickets that's when they came out with all this ridiculous crap and 3d was one of those things it is non-essential to viewing media so for those that are not familiar with the history of cinema smell vision was a real thing yeah and it was essentially you were handed a scratch-and-sniff card before the movie about your ticket and a number would come up on the screen telling you which block to scratch during that scene sounds awesome in a scene filled with roses and not so awesome in a scene in the gutter so and that's that was the problem that filmmakers had plus people just weren't buying into these ridiculous ideas of immersion bedroom 3d was kind of successful at the time but it's always been a gimmick virtual reality add something to the experience that I don't 3d ads and that's why I think it has good chance there's a definite like whoa feeling when you put on a headset how to work i'm not sure but i think it's a lot more appealing than 3d so yeah yeah i I don't know I I'm definitely taking a wait-and-see attitude I've said before on the show that virtual reality is just not that intriguing to me at this time I'm going to have to see something really tak really done with it before I'm on board I'll tell you this if I was a fan of Survivor horror games which I'm a big baby and I can't handle them eyes would be first in line for virtual reality first in line if you consider like alien isolation with a VR helmet oh my god I see I i I'm weird when it comes to survival horror it doesn't frighten me it doesn't frighten me enough uh no can't handle it mm-hmm well he's but see this is one of those situations where it comes for I grew up around the costume industry I by the age of 11 I knew how to make bullet holes in people's foreheads oh hi hung out at like age 10 with the guys who did the special effects for poltergeists and we like talked in detail about how they did certain certain shots yes i did i get i get i totally get the fact that you like if peeked behind the curtain so to speak yeah exit if we take a lot to make me jump it's just it's it's nothing i'm not scared it by horror films or whatever but but nothing gets me quite like a really well done first person survival for a game it just kidding man do you remember the first resident evil the infamous like early hallway with the dogs yeah when they blast through the window and yeah we had that in the store when i had the comic store we headed in for rental and we would let people you know try out games right i saw more people jump at that dog crap ish yeah yeah that was some scary stuff and you will get it now and you're like huh who is scared by this yeah but no you have a good point I game like alien isolation done with VR could be really interesting it could be to be absolutely terrifying and I will never play it but it could be good you know I'll take that review off your hands Oh enjoy well we got a lot of gaming questions coming in so let's jump into a few of them here we've got one from Matthew loogie bow I am sorry if I mispronounced your last name do you think valve is the key to the success of the platform I assume he means free of you or to a steam vr um valve in some way shape or form has to be there I think I don't know if they necessarily needed to do a steam vr but they needed to support virtual reality in general with with with the steam marketplace they need to make a push for it in order for it to be successful and whether that means advertising in on the home page when you go in or putting on special sales just for VR capable games with oculus rift or steam PR moving forward part of the big buy-in i think is going to be the showcasing of the games i mean it's always always always been the case software sales hardware when it comes down to mass consumer appeal unless you have killer software your hardware life-size our life span isn't going to be quite as long as if you have nothing to show and it's that promise of exclusive content that keeps people coming it's part of the reason why I think the PlayStation 4 is doing so well people know that that stuff like uncharted 4 is coming it's the same thing for for virtual reality and I think Val and steam are going to be huge in that do I think they necessarily need to do their own steam VR thing maybe that's negligible but I do think that they're going to be a big key player whether or not it fails or succeeds now here's a question that i will go hide under my desk while you answer it from the game guy which is better a gaming pc or an xbox one I'll be over here under my desk no it's it's an easy question answer uh in terms of sheer specs and specific statistics it's it's your gaming PC you're going to have more games more force power available on that platform than anything else that's ever going to be out ever but it boils down to what type of person you are how you want to game how much money you have if you if you like things to be really convenient gaming on an xbox one whether you like or don't like the content is really easy it's just booting it up and going like there's there's there's no owning a PC process and I know that that for people who listen to this podcast hearing that gaming on a PC is hard is kind of a ridiculous statement that's because you guys are all tech users you all know how to do this stuff but for someone like my dad if I hit him an xbox with just a controller he can go he knows what to do I sent my dad in front of steam he's gonna be like no I did you know what's going on right now so there's that but the answer is it's it's pc game pc gaming is better as a platform than anything else but that's only if you meet the needs of very specific people if you love halo to death or Gears of War or the xbox exclusives that's the way you have to go my answer doesn't change it's always the same it's all to personal preference yes I mean I even though I could i I've done pc gaming in the past i prefer consoles because i just like to pick up and go aspect I don't have time for especially I came from a period of pc gaming where once a year you had to buy a new sound card right or you had to understand unix just to get a game running yeah yeah I know so steam machines are looking to solve that problem and steamos is looking to solve that problem if that comes around and there actually is easy to use and inexpensive as valve is hoping I think that they could be the the big answer so yeah I tend to agree with you I I'm very very intrigued by the steam pcs hmm they're the steam machines excuse me yeah me too but this leads us into another interesting question a topic I wanted to touch on with you from Sasha Mahal what do you guys think of the newly announced Nvidia shield console I Sean can attest I have I like Nvidia as a company I think they're great but I have been a naysayer of the original shield ever since it was announced I think we joke about it but like the guys came back from CES when it was showed off and they wanted to make it their thing of show and I'm just going I don't see the the value of this thing not that it's a bad platform with that it's really niche I feel the same way about the new shield console it's really mesh you can you can do the same thing for for cheaper with the new steam link that they announced which is to stream games in your own network um and the whole idea of Android micro consoles has been toyed around with with oh yah which is a like a hundred dollars cheaper get on it so wait where does nvidia fit in here yeah well i think about i think this is will make the fourth android micro console because you had the oya the amazon fire TV and the nexus player there are more there are other ones yeah I'm sure hey there's been three major players okay and I've used each one for maybe an hour each as a console if Amazon can't get there is to take off I you know there's people don't want to play phone games on televisions and I know that there's more to it than that I know that the platform has a lot more than that but when they hear Android micro console that's all they think I think steam link does what you wanted to do for cheaper it's going to get your Steam library broadcast on to your TV with this little latency as possible because it's an in-home network especially if you wire it and that's that for fifty bucks sounds much better than two hundred dollars for the Nvidia shield console maybe i'm wrong i don't know i don't know it's interesting you know and the fact that it's also streaming platform although at this point there are so many straining platforms who can keep them all straight yeah i mean i'll take a look at it but i'm not i'm not expecting to have my hair blown back I don't know streaming streaming presents so many problems latency among them I feel like the only games right now that i'd be willing to stream art would be like line by line rpgs like that's about it i couldn't could you imagine streaming like god of war or something no like button presses have to be instantaneous I just no thanks yeah exactly from Simon Tucker jumping for d3 Joey what do you think of Bethesda holding a conference at e3 think we'll finally see the reveal of fallout 4 I hope so I don't know the the day that they're holding a confidence means that they're going to have an hour worth of content and it depends on how they're going to handle this when I went to see Skyrim when it was first presented at e3 and added behind closed doors thing it was like a 45 minute showing so yes hypothetically Bethesda could walk out with only one game like fallout 4 and show it to us for an hour and I'm sure some people would be really jammed up about that but just the fact that it's it's it's a longer show and that they're holding their own for the very first time tells me that it's going to be something big fallout 4 I don't know I wouldn't be surprised if we see a new do maybe and you fall out there goes my chair you know maybe a new fallout ah I hope Dishonored 2 I would put money on dishonor to showing up maybe even a new Elder Scrolls but who knows all i knows the last thing III need was another press conference that day we're going to and here we go i know ron and i will be on skype maybe with eric depending on where Eric is working from and oh that's such a fun day at least there's food trucks for me that's well I'm glad somebody has a food truck oh good grief well we have a lot of questions here let me quickly uh well we've kind of already touched on this one with your series of posts about the most anticipated games of the year but from Sasha by Paul hey Joey what games are you looking forward to playing from now until the end of 2015 do you hear my side yes I did it's a really big year for video games I if you kind of saw it 2014 is kind of a Down spell this is this is like the opposite of that we're in a bunch of hosts one post for each platform dedicated to games coming up and there's a lot of them personally what's huge on my radar I mean right now I'm thinking a lot about Metal Gear but that's just because the release date was just announced and Zelda always I don't had on Asajj this is a ridiculous question man my god you gotta understand that like I am like knee deep in this stuff all day every day like I all the games are on my radar I don't know that right now it's metal gear but that's only because of all the news was I love metal gears towards the end of just so people get an idea i think it was like it's usually like towards the end of July early August you present me with the fall review spreadsheet yeah and you know which author is going to cover which story you know and all that and last year's list was I think 15 16 games you know I I fear what this year's this is going to be well luckily they seem to be spreading things out margin is gonna be big month but then we have stuff like that man coming up in June so at least there's that and Batman's another one dunno this is what I mean like I could sit here and i'll be thinking like okay I'm done talking about so you just thought if the witcher like the witcher's another huge game this year I just there's a bajillion games coming out I I am unreasonably excited for Batman I think that's fair i think the fact that a picked up a mature warning has gotten me more excited than anything else i love the way arkham city was handled and I loved out dark at got and I think that going 14 to mature hopefully means something else more insane is gonna happen and adding the bat will be old to me is huge I'm wary of that I like the Batmobile obviously but I don't want it to ruin the court with gameplay that makes Arkham so good Tom I know but I'm anxious for that one so in short a bunch of games all the games all the games i want all the games and luckily that's something we get to do around here yes changing gears for just a second from Simon Tucker Sean which I have never seen anyone's try spelled my name I know it's a real spelling but I've never seen anyone used in a reference to me he spelled to sha un what do you think of the pebble time and pebble time steel I got the early bird for the standard model but I know you wear your pebble regularly yes I do I'm sticking with just the standard pebble time I the steel looks really nice but it's not worth the extra money to me for me it's more about the functionality than the the looks of the device so I'm fine was sticking with the basic pebble and watching Joey try to find a happy place with this chance tears awful man I'm sorry just negotiate hear it you need to head the staples after the shepherd by not a learner one I ordered one so yeah I'm just sticking with the basic pebble pebble time excuse me double time I just want to watch the tells time man that's all I know I'm like a big jerk ah you're a horrible jerk but for so many reasons other than what you think about the pebble time uh just okay from Sarang Shaw do you think lego batman three is worth buying as a good TBT game I I guess throwbackthursday game I know I'm like a year late but I've seen prices drop to around ten pounds recently which is relatively cheap tebow I don't know what tvt means in this I I don't either bet lego batman three at ten pounds of the lego games always have a bajillion of hours and hours and hours of content but you just have to understand that the light of games are pretty simplistic if you are really familiar with the series that they happen to be playing with with the game you're going to love it there's a lot of in jokes for for die-hard fans and legobatman 3 is probably the best of the lego batman trilogy so the the deal study for arrow for the latest game Gotham I I watched a let's play a bit the dlc with arrow was almost enough to get me to buy the game just to listen to Stephen Amell god you're such a nerd Sean I oh no you it was hilarious of the dlc it's not the 00 Stephen Amell voices like angels singing but no he's just freaking hilarious uh moving over to mobile and general here first a question from an ab 9900 do you think Apple be doing something special on march nine something that is not on the rumors that is a good question where we stand right now that mean we know they're going to talk about the Apple watch but we already know 75% about the Apple watch so why hold an event for it so you have to think there's something else in the mix we just don't know what it is yet of course we've been hearing the rumors of the 12 inch retina MacBook Air and there's also the endless rumors of the ipad pro so I think there's gonna be something else we just don't know exactly what it is yet and of course we'll be covering everything that happens on Monday you will yes yes Oh fine and from sasha hall going back to vr for a moment what do you guys think of the HTC vibe which is a partnership between HTC and valve hopefully Joey gets strike this weekend then we can talk about it more specifically yeah yeah it's interesting HTC jumped in this that's not the first company I would have thought of no I you know I for some reason mentally I would have put Samsung in before HTC I have no idea why there's no I have no idea maybe because Samsung has dabbled in an entertainment tech before it has HTC ever made anything like this not like the snow and Samsung has its own VR headset the works with its phones well that's right they do cod there's too many stupid headsets yeah I know man I agree with you a hundred percent I think that is going to be one of the most difficult thing is there's too many headsets into many different platforms yeah this actually plays back to a question that came in earlier for Matthew lagiglia lime I have no idea what I'm saying on his last name it also the most stylish of the VR headsets project Morpheus I i would say Morpheus it if style man matters to you I I think you like the problem with like the oculus and the Samsung headsets is it's too much forward wait you you feel like your heads going to tip forward and more pious looks like it's a little bit closer to the head and probably a better center of gravity I just think it looks cool I mean it just looks it looks kind of neat I think it's the only one that's been designed with like aesthetically pleasing edges so far all the other ones kind of been like this is totally it a prototype here we go now here here's a giant question from Sasha Mahal what do you guys think is the future of a gaming especially in the next five or so years oh uh you know there was a lot of discussion five years ago about how the xbox 360 and playstation 3 and we were where the end of console gaming as we knew it I think the ps4 and xbox one especially and even even the way you have have all kind of proven that sentiment wrong five years from now we're still gonna be playing games on these platforms I would imagine that they're going to look even better than they do now just because that's what comes with time on these machines and we're gonna see peripherals like VR elements as for how successful things are going to be I'm not sure I do know that the PlayStation 4 is selling at a stunning rate and I imagine it's going to keep that for a while they're already at 20 million console and that's borderline stupid well yeah I told you recently I I was a huge playstation playstation 2 theme for whatever reason playstation 3 did not really speak to me iike i went to the 360 during that generation and I find myself now gravitating back to Sony this generation I really liked the ps4 with the exception of the controller I'm sorry i'm not a fan of the DualShock oh you're doing this I i prefer the xbox controller but it's personal preference man exactly but in general i do find myself going back to sony this generation and I'm enjoying the experience you know and that to me says a lot and that kind I think ps3 lost some people and I think they came back for the ps4 whoa playstation 3 1 of being the best-selling console the general generation excuse me I think part of that is because the over the lifespan of the PlayStation 3 if you look at the launch playstation 3 its lineup compared to what we had at the very end it's it's crazy what changed on that platform and I think it got really really like the last three years were exceptional so I think that's pretty cool but I imagine the same the same course of action for these new consoles now I'm not sure which one's going to come out ahead but the consoles are going to do well and I see a lot of growth in pc gaming I think I saw someone recently say that by 2018 or something pc gaming is going to be worth 35 billion dollars um that's on us our money haha but I mean it's it's you know it's for a good reason the only thing that I hope goes away between now and then is the stupid current mobile version of free-to-play that we have and i'm not talking about Crossy Road which i think is success right now but I'm talking about the games that go after the whales the people that are willing to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on the single-game those need to go away and I hope they do by within five years so I i think i think at some point those are gonna have to die off it's going to have to become a one-time fee you know like i am thrilled that i spent money on threes at your recommendation does one of the most engaging games I have on my iPad and I play it probably more than anything else mhm you know and I paid one time for it I love that and never never have to think about oh I have to wait an hour now or I could buy a heart oh yeah that drives me nuts if if developers can get out of their own way and realize that if it depends on the type of game that you're making if a game is built to be played for free you should make it free to play without any all and then just give those people who want to customize their game or operate at the option to do so with money but if you're game like threes there's no customization in threes the only way you can make it free to play is if if you install the timer like you're talking about that it's necessary so I just hate I just hate that drives me nuts it's angry uh I I do not disagree with you uh let me look here real quick we've got bunch of questions we're not going to be able to get to the mall and I apologize for that but we do thank you all for asking all of these mmm quick mobile question with Mobile World Congress winding down from Nicholas Carter what's the difference between HTC One m8 and m9 a better processor different back camera they got rid of the ultra pixel on the back and moved it to the front and just one with a standard 20 megapixel camera on the back yeah HTC Sense 7 better theming please go to our YouTube channel and check out Todd's hands on it he really covers everything that's different about the the two devices and it looks like a great phone to do oh here's an interesting question from an Ave 9900 do you think apple is good at hiding all those secrets does it work for you guys or you like everything told before with some companies and I won't say which ones because they may not want this known we do get materials 24-48 hours before an event that's awesome because it allows us to prepare we get our post written we're able to go out right when they say they can which is called an embargo for those that aren't familiar with that terminology and that's great and it does create this awkward 24 hours where we still have to talk like we don't know but uh in general we do prefer that Apple doesn't provide us with the thing not a word now it does that have a much in gaming is there any company like Apple and gaming where they don't tell you anything um maybe valve would be close but a lot of their releases just seem to come up out of nowhere but it's all in who you know I guess there's no company quite like Apple with that stuff but then again there's no company that has leaks play like Ali there so yeah I will say you get much more amusing press releases embargo letters than we do yes I do what was the saints row 4 review letter I haven't done at us laughing for like an hour yeah I don't know that's that's the the PR team behind that game is there they are ridiculous I mean like there was a giant ASCII middle finger at the bottom of the letter I was just like I don't know it is guys are crazy yeah oh it's more fun than you know Mobile is very very dry yes yeah no I unfortunately you know it varies by company but apple doesn't provide us with a word of what to expect before an event hey for all we know they're just going to come out on stage and go hi we just haven't talked to you all for a while how you doing everyone love that I love that so much Tim Cook just comes out stage hi I'm just real only five hang out with some friends oh lordy a quick question here from the three two one show hi do you have any tips for tech youtubers like moi actually Jon did a series on advice for tech youtubers like a year year and a half ago you can find them on the YouTube channel that is probably going to teach you far more than Joey or I could teach you on this show correct I'm a writer so I don't have but but in general just make sure you have a decent camera good lighting work on your presentation I I've not seen anything you've done so I'm not saying that you have bad presentation I'm just speaking in general terms but just you know make sure you speak clearly get your thoughts together and go for it I my urea step ahead of the game I would never start a YouTube channel I couldn't take the endless stream of hammering that John takes I don't know how that man has grown that thick of the skin but uh good luck to you and be ready for the comments and we'll wrap this up with one more VR question from Sasha Baja Wendy when do you think the consumer version of the oculus rift will come out that is a great question because they've given us no indication fall or spring of next year they think South excuse me I don't know no I have no idea I'm just I'm just throwing that out there because that's when all the other competition is coming out the thing about oculus that makes that interesting now is that since Facebook is tied to it we have no idea no idea I wonder if they're waiting on facebook to come up with some user and software I have no idea you know before I would have made a guess at at this this year but now that Facebook's involved it don't know uh here's my answer is one last question from Nicholas Carter intelr AMD um I'm assuming he means when you're building a computer hey I'm div of course well i mean it's its price versus Power I guess there's no doubt that Intel's processors are better but I also think that they're much more expensive if you're if you're willing to pay that that difference you will probably get a better processor they just seem to run more efficiently AMD offers similar solutions for a cheaper price I think unless you're a power user if you're looking to get the most bang for your buck maybe AMD but until if you have the money they make really exceptional products I have an AMD processor in my machine and I'm up on four and a half years on this computer now I mean it's only now starting to slow down a little bit when it comes to playing games whatever else but that's also my graphics card everything else so but yeah I don't know it depends on how much money you have and all that jazz both have their pluses and minuses though so there you go well that is going to do it for this week we thank you all for joining us and we glad Joey was able to finally join us on episode again and we'll we'll have them on again let's see 2032 that sounds good I think I can commit to that okay cool we we have you down for 2032 for another appearance as always we appreciate you joining us you can find the TechnoBuffalo show and the itunes store where we do appreciate if you write review us you can also find us on pocket casts you can find us on the stitcher app you can subscribe to our RSS feed anywhere there are podcasts you can find the TechnoBuffalo show until next week I'm Sean ani I'm the editor-in-chief of techna Buffalo I've been joined by executive gaming editor joey davidson thank you guys for watching and we'll see you back here next week till then take it easy bye bye
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