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The TechnoBuffalo Show Episode #059 –Force Touch, Samsung and more!

2015-08-12
and welcome to episode 59 the TechnoBuffalo show as always I'm live your to host for today Sean ani editor-in-chief of the site i'm joined by deputy managing editor todd Hazelton hey everybody folks I'm just gonna apologize in advance we're not quite sure what's going on but there seems to be a little bit of delay today between Tata myself so you may notice a little bit longer gaps than usual and Todd replying to me and so forth but one quick bit of housekeeping I wanted to get to we have been notified by listeners that when we set up the live show I do it the day before and set it you know for a scheduled time we were not aware that makes it appear in your subscription box twice it appears when i first set it up and then it appears again when the show goes live i am trying to figure that out I do apologize we certainly don't want to clutter up your subscription box and we are aware of it we're just trying to figure out a solution all that being said moving on a nothing going on this week Todd it's going to be a quiet week yeah nothing no we have Samsung tomorrow which seems like it's going to be a big event we're expecting the note 5 the galaxy s6 edge+ we've already sort of covered a lot of that on the site so yeah really now it's coming down to you know what are there any surprises and what are they because one teaser they showed seem to have another device in it the big question is what is that other device and we've been expecting for a long time now that gear a SmartWatch Tizen powered circular SmartWatch that has pretty much leaked in very detail with you know the circular crown or whatever that you could twist and move to navigate brand new apps and stuff like that so whether we see that tomorrow or not I don't know it seems possible yeah for the sake of this conversation folks we are assuming that both those funds are coming tomorrow so we're going to be discussing strictly yeah we're going to be discussing strictly what else we think may be coming there and just before we jumped on the show talk you were saying there were some tablet rumors circulating yes so recently I mean one of the things I'm wondering is are we going to see the Tab s2 tomorrow for the United States it's already available on some on the world but Samsung hasn't made like a big splash with it yet so I'm wondering if we're going to see that in the United States you know maybe carrier partners a different version the tab and awesome tablets super super skinny really amazing quad HD display stuff like that I think it was quad HD any case great display and and then I just saw rumors as I was sort of researching like you know is there going to be an s2k united states tomorrow I saw rumors of a tab edge possibly so maybe that's what we'll see to which can be cool because we haven't seen a tablet with the edges and I don't know if Samsung has the capability he's sort of outfitted their factories to make those kind of displays I mean now I think with the rumored 5.7 inch edge that would be the largest but maybe they can do it off tablet scale too so I think there's going to be you know possibly a lot tomorrow because remember this is unpacked and that Samsung's like big conference it's what's usually in Berlin you know last year we saw the note for where we saw the note as we saw the new gear ours which were brand new at the time now they're available for the s6 and s6 edge too so also I mean not the s6 edge double and then you know so okies you bet with it got two phones it there could be plenty of things seems like it avail hope so gotcha yeah it's a the idea of an edge tablet really I I just don't see that I don't see the reason for again yeah because one of the reasons the edge exists I mean it's great for multimedia right because it doesn't have like the bezels but also with one-handed use you can swipe in from the side on the s6 edge for example and quickly view contacts or when the phones facing down it closed a certain color solo like that makes sense but on a tablet like you have to wonder those edges could probably be pretty annoying in some instances we're really great I don't know without having seen it yeah Bob just real quick this is totally off topic but i want to just acknowledge this from shawn the man 34 who has been one of our most loyal listeners i just want to say this will be my last light podcast for a while heading to college and have classes during the day keep up the great work guys well to you Sean the man 3 for what I would say is clearly your priorities are not in order you know if you feel that your college classes somehow are more important than hanging out with Todd and myself on the type of Buffalo show I fear for the future of the country but uh kidding aside good luck and we will definitely miss you and we will have to hand over the reins of asking Todd what he's returned to somebody else yeah and I have the Apple watch back this week count well moving back to Sam sorry I just wanted to make sure while Sean was here that we acknowledged his departure um i I just I don't know it's right I I think with a tablet especially when you're trying to work it like in landscape mode the edges would get really annoying unless they only do one edge which would be along the top but then who's to say what's the top some people rotate different way i I just I don't see the edge being needed on a tablet yeah exactly and I mean because what we've seen the use case scenarios right over like bedside mode with the weather in the clock pickers for like CNN and stuff like that stocks and I just yeah I'm not sure that like you would need that kind of functionality that's how much puts him so I could do other things too i mean movie controls have been there which would be great on a tablet my that those would sort of your thumbs would constantly get in a way versus like a smart phones more manageable hold for that kind of stuff but maybe Samsung has it all figured out I mean I don't think it would just launched this product nilly willy we are talking about in the past yes we're talking about at least how many different sizes of tablets at one of my you're right maybe they would do it what was it it was the tab 7.7 the 8.4 and yeah they have we've covered like every screw green sighs it'd be funny I gotta see like which ones they've not done before well what was the one we saw the rumor of last week it was like a 24 inch deep cleaners and ATT 17.8 17-point it was something oh yeah hmm I'm sorry monitor who is who is going to put a what is essentially a flat-screen television the small flat screen TV in their backpack yeah I just can't imagine I mean maybe if it was like a windows all in one you know that that starts to kind of make sense and they did have that I think a note 12.2 is probably the largest they've gone and that's a big tablet so yeah yeah I just I have no interest in 12 inch tablets no interest let alone let alone 18 I mean a 9.7 inch or so tablet is perfect for me I'm a big tablet user like when I lay down in bed at night you know I'm first thing when i wake up in the morning that my ipad is the first thing I grab every morning you know after I throw my alarm across the room and start looking at you know what the news is and all that sort of stuff I but the idea of trying to prop a 12 or 17.8 inch tablet up on my chest while I'm laying in bed that's not going to happen and you have to wonder the price to like a 12 points you I think that thing was like 800 bucks so like a 17 inch tablet would be like can you imagine spending more than a thousand dollars on the android tablet and i'm just throwing out numbers here no way no way oh maybe they're doing this anticipation of the ipad pro rumors which isn't going to be 18 inches badly yeah well something yeah but you can do it in anticipation that ipad / all day long but the thing is the pro is still not a definitive a definite device that's happening and right go and leapfrog it by almost six inches okay just a marketing bigger and better writers ah you know something stopped me when we get to the 55 inch tablets but which isin that a smarty yeah which I yes folks I realize that there are ones you can mount on the wall and all that stuff but it now anyway well moving on so tomorrow should be interesting yeah and Jacob will be there live we will be having of course whatever they announced will have you know we'll try to get hands-on videos and do all our usual specs shootouts and all that stuff so as I said we're assuming it's the two phones we don't know for sure and there might be some other stuff we just don't know yet but move 11am you so yes yes a good idea to tell the time yeah if somebody actually wants to know when it's happening uh moving on the other topic we wanted to touch on this week was all these rumors about force touch being added to the iphone mm-hmm I'm still trying to wrap my head around if this is a good idea or not yeah because I mean when you think about it it works on the watch right takes up the whole screen and apparently on the iphone it won't do that but it's sort of like and i have it on my macbook pro here too it's sort of like an additional button right like you pushed down and something else happens but it also reminds me a lot of just simply tapping and holding which is its own execution but this is it's more than that it feels like you're sort of push out and so the rumors are and they're from nine to five neck which is usually right about this stuff so it sounds pretty accurate that you can use force touch on an iphone to say bring up another menu it's like pushing hold down and it would bring up a small menu or say like you're on in safari on a website you see a link you could force touch fab the website it'll open and and like contextual menus like around your finger like option and say if you wanted to uh like share something I believe it was one of the examples so i think there's plenty of use cases because the iphone remember as everybody already knows and just has the home button right it doesn't have the on on-screen buttons that android has for a many or return so i think it's very valuable to have that if that's what they're planning and you don't have to you know worry about that added or loss screen real estate at the bottom of the phone either well i do you think it's going to happen yeah i do i think it seems like there's enough evidence and now the new panels i think as of yesterday we saw on for the sack and time that seemed to have that little force touch motor on him which would be the the module that's both the sensor and gives you that at the forest touch and we see this similar big copper thing underneath it and i don't know what it looks like the apple watch but it just I think it makes sense to add that like I was saying for additional menu functions stuff like that but then there's a cure like and I agree with that I don't think it's something like at least right now where I'd be like oh I need to upgrade my phone because it has forced touch so I'm hoping the six pots and stuff in the sixth s 6s and 6s plus have other features that are more compelling but we improved cameras we have a question from such an be Hall is for such necessary is it more of a gimmick I personally think it kind of resides in between the two yeah you know it's not necessary because we already have iphones and we use imaged it we're all just fine with them right like it's not necessary but I think it makes sense and it's not a gimmick in the sense that it could provide additional functionality that you don't have right now yeah show us no no it's not why we want it exactly I they're gonna have to come up with a compelling reason you know I've tried to stay on the main iphone releases I try to skip the s's except for you know when I lose my iphone 5 in England and had Maya 5s yeah so i am going to be skipping the success plus but yeah i'm still i'm going to be interested to see what they do with it but i'm also going to be like you said there there's gonna have to be a very compelling use case for me to ever even care about force touch like if it works in Apple maps which nobody uses like I don't care that then it's a gimmick right like because i'm not going to open up Apple Macs maps i still use google map i use safari so maybe it's useful there you know other options on the home screen for example love to see yeah i'm the same here i'm sorry i'm still google maps user no matter what device I'm not yes it's just the the better way to go I think so we got a lot of questions and we will start getting through them here ah from Jasper Rex what battery size do you think is acceptable for the note 5 um well certainly not 25 I 50 like the galaxy s sit yeah that's yeah I will want to see you consider a robot yeah and I think it's definitely gonna be more than that but as to the exact number I just I don't know we'll just have to wait and see yeah it needs to be large though yeah um and just so you know tough for whatever reason we are no longer seeing you on camera when you talk oh that yep we can I can still hear you though so you're still here it honestly if I don't have to look at you the better I mean ah darn it he's back from Sean the man 34 Todd how's the surface three attempted to get one for college to travel around college with my macbook 15 inch maybe a little too good um i have so i haven't used this sir with this 3 but i have used this earthly sauna not sure if it's just an answer you're looking for surface 3 looks ok I'm worried about the atom processor not being powerful enough because I have another one with a man older atom processor in it but doesn't run Windows 10 very well now the surface pro 2 30 like a lot it's nice and light my biggest complaint though and Sean you know this from working with me in the mornings I take it to the coffee shop with me and the keyboard can just drive me nuts and when I'm typing sometimes it look off somewhere but a good capitalization and stuff like that and i run into really really terrible battery life when I have chrome on it hour and a half well oh I know that's common I know that's like my macbook pro struggles with chrome too i mean i get like two and a half hours but it's really hot on the surface pro 3 but edge is pretty sweet the new browser in Windows 10 windows 10 runs really well in the surface for three and again i love how light is so around campus and stuff it might be pretty sweet yeah I am I actually I just say upgraded one of my parents computers to windows 10 the other day and I still haven't had time to really explore edge and see if it finally will release us of the shackles of ernet explorer but uh oh yeah it's better it must saw those cool features that remind me of like of what you do with force touch on a map act it's not controlled by the keyboard but you know core tonic and like pull in extra data from the website so if you go to like a restaurant or something she can be like oh I have the directions and the times and all that automatically like she just scour Cepeda subsea but that has something you at the surface pro 3 they honestly Sean if I was you I would probably wait and see if there's a surface pro 4 coming soon yeah and folks I can attest when he's using that thing in the mornings from a coffee shop all and and Todd I I'm not I'm not angry at you for saying these things I'm just trying to give a testimonial every it all I hear about is that keyboard yeah if you're if you're going to pick up the surface you definitely are going to want to look at a third-party keyboard because that seems to be his biggest issue with his that keyboard in the way it also gets i know i i've heard some people love it and they all I think back tues remember at the announcement event when he was trying to show how easy it was using he was trying to prop it up on his knees hey company I'm a happily it yeah it does not make sense for that Mouse no it doesn't make sense at all moving on from sudheesh Patel and I hope I got that correct what are your thoughts on Snapdragon 820 I think it's a processor and it has a kind in the name uh I'm excited for it it sounds like it's gonna have better cameras better graphic you always move up that way not launching until next year and I did that the heat being and those kind of issues are solved a mom oh Ken had a lot of problems and I don't think Qualcomm would want a misstep like that again but you know I don't know we were all excited for Snapdragon 810 and Aereo eight processors and our phones and loving the Exynos chips and the s6 and s6 edge so you know hopefully Qualcomm did a good job with that and and it's what we lost you there first and Todd luckily folks that the audio will be fine because that's recorded locally but unfortunately for the video show we are having some technical difficulties today I every week I get questions on Twitter and I always forget to look over here at the Twitter monitor i have so I've been trying more today to look over here and we do have one I'm going to take it real quick because I want people to think that I actually do read the Twitter questions from timothy williams do you think Samsung will include force touch on their new devices in the future could we see a force touch note 5 NYC event now that's an interesting question a lot of companies do once Apple starts adding a feature they want to add it but I'm not really sure about for such I think people are going to have to go wow this is a game-changing feature before the other can throw it in because it's just an added expense if there's not a really good use case for it yeah and that comes back to what I was saying about the lack of controls on an iPhone you don't have that back button or the menu button and that kind of stuff that you do on Android so I don't think there's that need on Android and I also don't think you know we're not even sure well it seems plausible now that we're going to see it the iphone 6s the iphone 6s plus but there's no way it's going to hit the note 5 tomorrow I don't think Samsung would would build something that quickly just because it's been on the Apple watch in the macbook pro so now I don't think there's a chance of it being on the note 5 but I don't see it being copied now I don't think that is going to be one that it's going to be copied from such and behold do any of you guys use stuff like parallels or boot camp on your max to use windows and stuff I know they do a little bit of that out the irvine office but i don't it i don't believe you do either Todd no i don't i just have my windows computers and my mac appears keep separate if never shall you farm two different things in one field good grief ok this is getting uploaded from Sean the man 34 Todd what have you returned um I don't think I return anything I don't think so i'm trying to think cuz last weekend i bought something new and it was a big kayak but I didn't return that yes okay yeah that would qualify is it truly a big return ah from such Mahal is it worth upgrading my windows 7 and 8 machines to Windows 10 or should I wait I would upgrade the windows 8 but windows seven is still a pretty decent operating system yeah it is and in fact I don't think it's really disappearing yet either I think some manufacturers are sticking around with windows 7 as long as they can I would double check your hardware though before you make any moves to Windows 10 because like i've said i did my netbook which was running windows 8.1 and it's just not powerful enough yeah so make sure okay we got some other questions coming in here uh from Alexandra mattos do you hope to see one day the 1+2 be selling on I'm not sure what that word is in stores may that force apple or Samsung to change the prices I think I it could change a lot of the market um I think it will happen someday I'm just not sure when yeah and I don't think Apple and Samsung are worried about 1 plus certainly not at all yet I mean this is a company that sold what one point something million phones apple sells tens of millions of them each every three months so I don't think it's enough to really squeeze them but I think that we are going to see Apple and Samsung change some of their models because of the markets they're entering like China and like Latin America and stuff like that yeah it'll happen at some point I just I'm not sure when mm um let's see here well we already kind of addressed that from John the man 34 will we see any smartwatches tomorrow I don't know I don't know um I think I'm it's possible yeah I think it's possible because we're looking you know there's a lot of rumors about the gear a 4 forever now and we haven't seen it yet so well I'm trying to think like when el squid samsung announced it I don't think they would hold their own event for the gear right so it seems really possible cooking those Todd I saw your message I'm thrilled uh I'll figure that out later um nothing horrible folks we're just having a lot of technical difficulties today from Justin you'll say I believe what will be the new innovation the next gen of phones opinion also Windows 10 is great window 7 is just a minor hardware hindrance and Yujin skylake um you know I think I we discussed this a lot what what could be the next big thing in phones i mean you know that oh we added fingerprint readers hardly anyone uses them but they're there yeah and the cameras are getting really great so I want to see that continue but I don't know it seems like there's like what is it I mean you have samsung with PA PMA and qi wireless charging which is awesome you have us bc but that's not a huge innovation in the sense that the manufacturers are doing it so i don't know i think it's going to have to come on the software side and you have to wonder what's going to change i think maybe the advancement of these smart assistants like google now and syria and Cortana will probably be the largest innovations that will see moving forward but also un for phones with continuum i think that's really cool where you can attach a a display and have the full Windows 10 nap up here which is really sweet so maybe we'll see that progress to where you have you know iOS apps that can the king blow up and run OSX on that on some level or let the Android same idea so that's where I think we're going more software / yeah I tend to agree with you uh from Sean the man 34 heard anything about hololens release date rumors know no nothing yet I haven't even played with one yet but I've talked to Microsoft I think soon they have this studio in New York where you can go the press can for readings and stuff and then see some of their newest stuff and they said they're gonna try to get the hololens there so this thing will be a little bit yeah I I would love to try it out from Neal Sampat do you see a point to one plus is marketing they get a lot of people excited but never have products to deliver can they kill any flagships if they don't show up for the fight how would you manage it differently then that's an excellent point meal and you're right as long as they continue this system of what they're doing where yo okay we've got you know so many more phones we can ship out today they're not going to they're not going to be a big force to reckon with I honestly I think the bigger question is and one that I always wonder about you know sometimes you don't want to be the biggest sometimes you want to do what you do really really well and you almost have to wonder if one plus is taking that tactic where they just want to control this specific little area of the market and believe me everyone i am speaking simply from theory but I almost wonder if that's where one plus is going you know there's a lot of money to be made in niches and so I if they ever want to take on the flagships yes they're gonna have to completely change your model but this model is working for them so maybe it's better to be a really big fish in a small pond yeah it seems potential I mean that in my opinion phones like the Moto G the alcatel one touch idol 3 you know the zenfone 2 those kind of devices and I think they do a good job there but I think fans and this is clear in some reddit comments and stuff like that are like what the heck like I don't want to wait on this invite system or like you know if I have to wait around for this I'm just gonna go get some other phone and I think they run a risk there and they should really try to try to get as many units made as possible instead of running into like this year again with the 1+2 we have a delay in the United States like after teasing a phone for so long and then I'm villain you can't do that to your fans and say oh whoops like we don't have enough or you're bumped back in line you didn't get an invite stuff like that so I feel like maybe you know they should have more units available make sure they're not getting delays and satisfy that that really you know hungry fan base first yeah exactly no otherwise they're going to invite those other phones I need yeah totally i completely agree with you uh from such an Mahal as soon as it wants to choose his question ah disappeared on me I always love it when that happens ah good ribbing uh oh there it is well it's actually from Sean the man 34 that's why I couldn't find it wireless charging an iphone 6s thoughts um I don't see it I don't think so I Apple really likes making you buy cables yeah it seems to me that's the case and apple also seems to wait for a technology to mature and lost everybody their own like lightning right or something like that but I cuz i think wireless charging is great it's it can be convenient but it's also still very slow it's getting faster and I wonder if Apple's just going to wait for it to become you know as fast as a cable charging or close to it before they do it I don't know I love what Samsung's done though with PMA and she I think that's the way to go you know like support both and then you're good uh Neil Sam part brought it up something or Sam pet that brought something I had forgot about that one plus head said they did announce they expect to be top three smartphone sellers and five years so I think they want to be big um they can think that only wants a lot happen yeah it's not gonna happen there's no way they will well actually now because you can in a way and show me ya know but I don't think there's any way they can make a copy of knocking us big guys out no I there's no way they're going to take down Apple there's no way they're going to take down Samsung HTC at the moment is out of the running blackberries out of the running I don't care yes Blackberry Android phone it's probably going to happen but it's not going to make them a top three again and then you gotta deal with the companies like show me an OA that are dominating China so I don't know and one comes in guys well qualies here but you look at shiomi wants enter the u.s. to I thinking I just don't see it especially because you have to consider these guys are trying to get the best parts and they have to be able to afford them eventually like if you if you want to become a talk to you got to compete with those guys with parts too and I think that's why you see HTC sort of struggle with their camera mom on tools getting the best ones that I think you know Samsung and Apple are able to scoop up at scale so I don't know how they're going to get over that boundary teether especially if they can't even fill orders right now for a further like fan base yeah it's a very odd situation from Justin you'll say the Google alphabet announcement thoughts smart or not I think people are going to be confused yeah I mean Google is going to be the Google you know as of right now right like it's but it's also now under the umbrella of a company named alphabet sundar pokai is now the CEO it's just it's different and I think we see Project X i guess the X labs are now under alphabet not google so let the wait and see like how this all unfolds but to me it was just a surprise like the other day what the heck just happened yeah that was so bizarre so does art I really don't have a debate I people are just still going to call it all Google yeah I think so too and yeah ticker symbol symbol when they're trading is still in Google yeah from Neil sampad if Apple has to maintain their lure what's the next big thing we need to see from them what do you expect watches were a bust TV vr I know it's big but what do you expect the first thing I would say is we don't know that the watch is a bust and i'm not sure i would say to watch is a bus because a watery at like estimates on the low end of 3 million in sales that's better than any other SmartWatch it's sold yet so yeah I'm not sure it's a box i think feature software updates you get more apps and it'll probably do pretty well yeah i know i would say overall the smart watch market is kind of a bust but as sales go though as far as we can tell the Apple watches the biggest selling SmartWatch that being said from there though I don't know what they're going to do next I think the TV's dead I don't think we're ever going to see the TV well I think we'll see the new Apple TV well yeah hey I'm sorry I'm speaking TV set right yeah yeah it doesn't seem to bother you TV said I don't think it's going to have an apple TV little box yes that that's definitely being refreshed it's just a question of when since how many times have we gone through rumor cycles on it right vr we know they're hiring some people but Apple experiments with things every day you know we also know they've hired people related to cars we haven't seen anything official on that we don't know we ever will I don't know I don't know where Apple's going to go next my guess is the ones that and I could be totally wrong but that Apple is working just sort of change these industries by making smaller things so like the Apple TV set and the streaming service could change TV industry the way you know some TV and stuff is and I think with cars maybe they're working on parts of cars or or aspects that can be applied to the auto industry as a whole maybe not their own car I don't know another question coming in from Twitter from and I can't see your full name let me give me a second here from the electric MJ what happened to google glass Google glass from what we're hearing they have shipped out a new model to businesses it's not being handled like the Explorer edition was and so we're we're hearing rumors that there is a second version out there yeah and then we're kind of waiting for the new consumer version but I don't know that that's on there on the immediate horizon I think we'll have to wait a bit longer yeah uh from Richard hendren we addressed this a couple weeks ago do you think it was a good decision for 1 plus to exclude NFC from the 1+2 no no I think that was silly I just finished our moto g review and I have it right here and I still love the phone but one of the things I don't like about it is it doesn't have NFC because i use it for small things like pairing with a bluetooth speaker i have everyone right here that I you know you just tap it boom you're playing music and when you don't have that it's kind of just like one of those things are like oh I wish I did and again with Android pay commenting and stuff like that you know Google Wallet use case now you can't do that so kind of a bummer not really a flagship killer it doesn't have flagship features is my opinion uh just got asked a question by timothy williams is the video being uploaded to YouTube actually it's automatically archived on the show finishes uh let's see here I've got questions out coming in on multiple screens since I'm actually remembering to look over at Twitter for those that wonder why I keep going like this that's because Twitter is on a second monitor to my right from saha Raja what would you like to see in the next Nexus and well Google come out with their own SmartWatch um what would I seen the next I have given the see how fingerprint readers work with Android and built into the system so if I can use it sort of the way Apple pay is built and their touch ID which with Apple pay so if I can use the fingerprint reader to make purchases in google play and stuff like that it seems plausible I think that's what I want to see in terms of hardware it sounds like you're going to get quality cheese plays the rumors Chloe's gonna have the you know a metal pipe phone and maybe even LG's but really I just want the flagship specs and hopefully an affordable slightly affordable prices I also want to see project fights supported by boat and ice that should happen in people's going to push that because night get to celebrity bones for that at least yeah I mean every year the Nexus grabs my attention but it's always too expensive for what I want to pay yeah yeah I maybe someday I'll be able to although supposedly the rumors are coming out with a cheaper model this year what I'll do one is now so I don't know well we'll see from Justin you'll say with Google coming to all the areas of utilities in entertainment what do you expect google drop in next car check car check TV check cellular check isp fiber check space robot invasions service of some kind actually if you go to google and you and do view page source you will actually see there is a killer robots text that protects Sergey Brin and Larry Page so the robot invasion is a possibility ah I don't know a google is one of those companies that at any moment you don't know what they're going to do next and all the sudden its just oh hey we decided to work on this yeah okay yeah I don't know I don't know I I want to say you know the modular smartphones become legitimate whatever happened in the Puerto Rico soft launch I don't know I don't know and the the other thing I mean I think they also really desperately want to get the autonomous cars on the road yeah you know it eat there on the road for testing but on the road as in hey we can all drive one or not drive one right rider yeah so all right well that is going to bring this week's show to a close we thank you everyone for joining us as always you can find the show on the itunes store by searching for the TechnoBuffalo show or we do appreciate if your rate review us that does help out the show you can also find us on pocket casts you can subscribe via RSS feed you can also find us on the stitcher app which means you can listen to us anytime anywhere anywhere there are podcast you can find the type of Buffalo show until next week I am Sean ani I'm editor and chief of the site Todd will not be here next week as Todd is actually taking application I there will be a show next week I'm not sure who's going to be my co-host yet I I'm talking with other technobuffalo staffers you know it just depends on availability but there will be a show no matter what next week then probably fewer technical issues oh but as long as we appreciate you joy is until next week take it easy and talk to you then bye bye
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