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hey what is going on everybody happy cinco de mayo de i'm noah Kravitz from technobuffalo I'm James Kendrick from ZDNet mobile news and welcome to good to go James how you doing good are you I am alright I'm alright it is uh it's Thursday mean it's time to do it again and lots going on the world of mobile tech as always so let's let's dive right into it I think I think Samsung and AT&T launched a ginormous phone today in New York and there's been a bunch of rumors about Apple cutting the cord so to speak with the OTA updates what do you want to start all right the infuse I guess we can jump in there real quick if that announcement just came out we haven't seen it yet you either one of us but that mainly it's a four and a half inch display phones yeah just like wow it's like the world's smallest tablet maybe yeah it uh you know there were rumors that that's what it was going to be and they actually showed the phone back at CES circle you know not undercover but sort of quietly and so I was digging around a little yesterday online and thinking while dell streak was like a 5-inch sort of tablet phone and you know obvious is a little bit different but that didn't seem to go over all that well I don't know what when is when is I'm going to open it open it up for bad double entendre is here but what is too big just plain too big yeah I've you know previously the biggest phones were the 4.3 inch evo the charge and a whole bunch of other HTC phones I played with every one of them and I have really big hands and I actually like that sighs phone but that's stretching it i have to admit sometimes that's almost getting too big for me yeah i don't know who could use a four-and-a-half inch phone on I am yeah just before we came online or rather came out here to tape I was looking at some photos on on Twitter that some of the the folks in New York some of the journalists the event we're posting of the phone granted these were fo you know photos taking it kind of weird angle some of them that you know sort of distort things when you take a photo from the top down at an angle it makes you know that the actual size of things look strange but I mean this thing is just huge and i don't know i also have fairly large hands but i actually am NOT personally such a big fan of the the 4 inch plus screens just because I'm I think just because I don't want to carry around something that big in my pocket but you know to each their own whatever but yeah I just I don't know it'll be interesting to see how it does in the market and kind of interesting to me that it wasn't launched it's not packed to the gills it has the super amoled plus display which is fantastic technology it has dual cameras it has four GL it's kind of Kwazii 4G I think it's at its HSPA 14 for well yeah is stretching the definition there my eyes but you know it doesn't have a dual core processor it shoots video in 720 not 1080 you know blah blah blah interesting to me that they didn't just like load it up as you know the biggest baddest beast on the block but well I get I think they they just figured it really was with the excretion show right that was good enough you know so so yeah that's out May fifteenth I think 200 bucks although there were ads leaked earlier in the week from I don't know walmart or costco or something showing it being cheaper but anyway there you go if you want a giant phone you can get a giant jibba but yeah for apple verizon AT&T iphone over-the-air updates lots of rumors what uh what do you know about that what do you think about that well it's it's beginning to sound more and more like there are serious discussions from apple and that kind of surprises me because you know Apple has been wonderful at controlling every part of the update process for ILS i mean what i got i have about 20 of these lying around one of my to-do list is now well you can still use them that would probably end up being faster i mean apples gonna have to change their whole update process because currently they you know each update contains the whole firmware image and that's that's six hundred megabytes plus yeah how long is that going to take on the AT&T network there yeah it's just gonna be it's begin of the A to Z network if it you know where I'm going with this if if if Apple starts doing OTA updates for the iPhone the iPad what is going to happen to the world famous AT&T network every time an update gets rolled out its gonna crash mean if you've ever been to CES or ctia or I think it was a little bit better this year from what i heard South by Southwest some of these big events where tons of geeks and people who report on geeks descend and you try to use an iPhone in one of those places it's I mean it's just all screeches to a halt and and that's nothing compared to huge streaming download right i mean right that's this call such a race network yeah i mean i just don't see what the game is for Apple personally yet well well that I mean while we all like that i mean i love android and webos and all the other platforms do OTA updates and they can get away with it because they're smaller samples of users i mean right there's hundreds of millions iphone and ipad owners out there right and while there may be you know comparable number more of android users that split across many different devices each with and carriers carriers yeah yes and and that's the other thing that i can't fathom how this would work because i guarantee you the carriers will get involved with the apple update process no matter what people say oh no apples too big they won't let that happen they want any choice i mean then yeah it's the networks it's the carrier's network and bandwidth and they control it they're not going to just turn anybody even in an apple loose so yeah just shoot it out whatever anywhere right it's what it's one thing to give up some control to Apple as far as the hardware and the software but when you're talking about the network absolutely so to go back to your sort of rhetorical question what is there for Apple to gain I mean is it just user perception people saying you know I'm gonna quote you before we went on air oh you know my uh that's not me doing James's voice that's me doing the voice that James did earlier I want to get that straight yeah oh man you know you have an iphone it's tethered you're in the stone age my android phone download over-the-air updates boom I'm updated let's go I mean is there anything beyond that for Apple the game if well the only thing easy I tell you the only thing that that occurs to me is we know or we believe Apple is probably pushing this cloud incentive going forward with us stuff right that would be certainly a part of it I'm sure so maybe you maybe they've already figured this out we Apple usually figures things out they have a night off your things out yeah yeah so who knows but I don't know I'm I just fine with plug-in and if I have to yeah Terry speaking of a speaking of AT&T again actually the the veer the first of the the HP webos device yes I did the actual date is now eluding me when they announced it's going to be shipping it Shh coming up real quick I mean it's it's actually moved a little bit but it's real quick yeah so that's coming that'll be tiny phone that's the other right into the special from the Ford IFH phone yeah exactly and then actually sony ericsson today relaunched kind of up refresh versions of the experian minis is funny I saw that on my RSS feed and I my first thought was oh man like somebody's somebody's RSS generators broken and an old article slipped in there because I really thought it was that you know from first glance the was the x10 mini in the x10 mini pro but their new refreshes and apparently the keyboard on the the mini pro the mini being a I think it's a 3 inch screen touch only and then the mini pro having a slide-out keyboard like the veer that the HPV are has a slight I'll keep as well but apparently the keyboard on the mini pro is really really good the keyboard on the veer I was surprised when when I use it that demo event way back when how good it was right yeah I was too I mean in fact I was also surprised how small it is when it's closed yep but it still looked like a pretty decent webos experience yeah prize being such thing and I was going to ask you when now that we're talking about it I got the definite impression from HP out at that event that we both attended way back was it februari now Wow yeah anyway I got to definite impression that the veer was not necessarily supporting the synergistic capabilities with the touchpad because all they ever talked about on the other two phones interesting because I I don't know if it was at the event or an interview at reg shortly afterwards with with jon rubinstein where somebody from HP was talking about a use case for the veer being kind of a a phone for somebody who does a lot of work on a tablet or you know probably more likely a laptop but they wanted to try to you know spin it with up selling the touch pad but so a phone for somebody who you know they use the phone for kind of quick information for voice calls obviously you know maybe a short text message but a lot of the time they're going to use their tablet and so then the phone is very small in a confunkshun as a mobile hotspot which made me that's the only thing I remember hearing specific about that I definitely did not see a demo the the whole bumped the phone to the tablet together and the patron is that pre three only well additionally that's the impression that they gave at that event now I've heard since then that it's also the not severe but the other one what's the other one that was a doctor pre three they would then there was a what are they calling it Oh me and I can't remember now but anyway I got the definite impression that the pre three was it as far as the the communication center synergy between the touch pad but I've since heard someone say no I they were confirmed with HP that that's not true okay that all of the webos phones will will have that capability so I was gonna ask you if you'd heard that I had not heard that officially yeah I am a button am a would make sense like you said is a hotspot and actually what the usage you described for the little veer yeah kind of makes it into like a bluetooth headset for the tablets right exactly if that's if that's the case but anyway it's gonna come out soon I guess we'll know it'll be out before the touchpad which I sure we should get that thing released yeah i just i don't i'm doing a little googling in the background here is why i'm looking down and maybe it was only two phones actually two phones in a tablet yeah yeah the veer and the pre III and the pre three yeah because there was no there was no pixie refresh yeah no no that's that's correct but anyway it's the veer that I've since heard others say that they've heard from HP it will handle the touchstone stuff and the right and this energy but we'll just have to see out of that yeah I'm with him I'm uh I'm anxious for them I really I was the fool in the room I really thought they were gonna pull a fast one and announce that at least one of those devices with shipping you know that day back in February because they'd made such a big thing I've even said that they need to do that and they still haven't and they still haven't confirmed I don't believe they've confirmed actual shipping for the touchpad which is just yeah it's like we said it was way back in February when this thing was announced so here we are still waiting well you know it's like the advice that I that I and I'm sure you give to readers all the time which is why should I get this phone or wait for that phone well if you can always wait because something there's always around the corner in this business so I don't know maybe I often say the opposite because if that's the case you can actually and I've seen people like this be waiting all the time and never ever get anything well that's why I never get anything done because I'm just I'll just win the whole time just playing around with all this stuff but you know we were you worried the time speaking of waiting all right well next week we'll do it again I'm going to be out at Google i/o on Tuesday and Wednesday but we'll tape again Thursday and I'm hearing some rumors I don't know this just rumor talk but I may have a galaxy tab 10 one in my hand rumors that you know last year at Google i/o google gave out EVO 4 g's to everybody attendance developers conference I'm hearing rumors about them given out of 10 12 all the devs this year I don't know if it's true well I've heard similar things here or zooms of her debt to you today that you yep what makes sense look under your chair I will exactly the old the old that Steve Jobs did that one year at a at back when macworld was in New York they gave out was either keyboard or they had a new mouse they gave out and a friend of mine was at the keynote and got it it was one of those things where it was like you know it's like a fifty dollar sixty dollar peripheral which is great I mean that you know anything you know but it was more just to like this was under that this is the keynote I got the keynote keyboard you know so that was obviously before Apple owned everybody they don't have to do that stuff now exactly all right James if if the folks out there I want to get more of you I was gonna say in print but i guess in in pixels formed in the letters and words and blogs where can they find you it's a the ZDNet mobile news blog that zdnet com / blog / mobile dash news all right and as always i'm hanging around on technobuffalo calm and our YouTube channel and Twitter you're on Twitter we never say this at the end which I'm every urge J Kendrick is me hey todrick excellent and i'm noah crab it's easy enough alright till next time j enjoy you know enjoy the week enjoy a giant four and a half inch screen phone if one head your way yeah we'll do it again after duck exactly we'll do it again next Thursday alright see you know alright see you James you