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Apple is with the 2018 MacBook Pro 15 inch you guys johnathan you hope you're doing well I'm excited I am pumped up worked up it's another Apple release another controversy this one we might as well dub throttle gate but cooling kick back relax because it's going to be interesting to say the least so by now I'm sure you've seen the wave of videos hit the internet lock up your kids because the core i9 MacBook Pro is here your core I 9 my throttle itself to the same performance as the 87 58 but hey we gave you a core 9 and does it your laptop look really pretty and this thermal throttling down to two point three two point nine two point three two point nine that's insane this means that the throttling could be even more severe and further closed the gap between an i7 in an i-9 MacBook Pro so there was one video in particular for mr. Dave 2d he's a great friend even better human being and there was so much truth in that video so many things I agree with but the overall outcome that video I think was a little skewed so this is the point where a lot of you out there are jumping out of your chairs typing furiously into your keyboard but before you do hear me out because there is a lot to talk about before I go any further though and throw this out there there is no arguments I 100% agree this MacBook Pro design is not taking full advantage of the chips inside this machine but the thing is most laptops whether they're Mac or Windows aren't either unless you have some giant five six pound laptop that has a cooling chassis which at that point you almost - we'll bring it desktop around it's just physics when you have a processor with that many cores without high of a clock speed you're going to run into thermal problems beyond that though I'm going into this as open minded as possible if you guys want to see a comparison of something like a Dell XPS 15 that also has a core and drop a like and I will happily order one of those to compare now I think this is gonna end up being a multi-part series in this first video I'm gonna tackle the i9 versus the i7 and kind of address the issue of if the more expensive i-96 core is actually slower than the cheaper six core i7 and spoiler alert it's not now before I jump into my test just to quickly explain why I think Dave's video was a little skewed is the test to use was honestly the perfect recipe to completely cripple your computer he took five K read raw footage which will eat your computer alive brought that into Premiere Pro which isn't optimized to begin with and then exported that into a 4k ace a 264 file now I think the best way I could paint a picture with that is this is your shiny new MacBook Pro and this is red raw footage in from your pro so there was an interesting article from John Poole the creator of Geekbench where he talks about applications like Premiere Pro using both the CPU and the GPU and if the GPU is starting to tax out and heat up that could actually lead to bottlenecking of the cpu again yes the MacBook Pro could 100% use a better thermal design to take advantage of the power inside but in this case it's more of a story of Premiere Pro being terribly optimized that is leading towards more bottlenecking again before you freak out please please please please watch this video thoroughly I spent the last two days testing testing testing and more testing trying to make this as diverse and open as possible using everything from Lightroom to Premiere Pro to Final Cut Pro 10 DaVinci Resolve handbrake transcoding 280 VC then using everything from a Sony a7 3 all the way up to an Arri Alexa Mini for this run a test again these are both 6 core MacBook Pros that is the most expensive eye 9 processor against the baseline 2.2 gigahertz i7 both machines were plugged into power at all times and then all projects and files will run off an external OWCA under blade v4 SSD also for the one got that it's gonna flip out and say that's not fair why don't you run the projects off the internal MacBook Pro SSDs that would be the most even way to do it but if you ever dealt with large files especially if you use a baseline MacBook Pro with tuned and 50/60 good bytes of flash storage that is nowhere near enough space to run all these files so this is the fairest possible way to do that so for the first round of tests we are looking at Adobe Lightroom classic CC which is pretty much the go-to editing application for photos for this particular test I actually linked up with mr. Tyler Stallman he's a great photographer super talented creator and he actually hooked me up with 100 megapixel Hasselblad of raw photos which is crazy for the first test I imported 50 of those photos and built a one by one preview and the cool waianae macbook was about a minute faster than the baseline MacBook Pro from there I then took those 50 raah photos applied a creative look and then export of those in the JPEG and again the Coraline MacBook Pro was about a minute faster now the general consensus or reaction to those results that I've seen on Twitter is ooh big deal I saved the whole minute is that really worth three or four hundred dollars into that I say grab a dictionary and look up extrapolation next up from there is Adobe Premiere Pro CC and again I wanted to make this as diverse as possible because not only does the program matter the camera as well as the codec plays a factor as well first up I took 4k Arri Alexa Mini Pro res footage just drop that into a 4k timeline and then bounce that into a 4k h.264 file in this case the core I nine MacBook Pro was about two minutes faster I think the big thing here is the codec is super efficient so if you shoot video and you can shoot pro res it is much much easier on your computer from there next up is 5k red raw footage which is very similar to Dave 2ds test it's extremely extremely taxing on the computer so I 100% no arguments all thermal throttling here the what I did was take that 5k footage drop it in a 4k timeline and then export that into a 4k h.264 file this test took for to the point where it pushed these MacBook Pros to its knees and honestly you could probably cook an egg on one of these machines it got to the point where was about a hundred degrees Celsius so Apple in this case yeah there's no arguing the MacBook Pro needs a better thermal solution surprisingly though or maybe unsurprising the I nine MacBook Pro was again about two minutes faster than the baseline model next from there I wanted to do a more common scenario because I get it not everyone's shooting red or airy so I took Sony a7 three footage 4k 100 megabits and then dropped that into a 1080p timeline and then bounced that into a 1080p h.264 file so once again the eye 9 MacBook Pro was about two minutes faster than the baseline i7 which lines up in pretty much every test so far I've done in Premiere Pro but where I saw the biggest difference between these two models is actually using Canon C 200 raw light footage now big shout-out to mando bytes for sending this footage over so I can really make these rounds of test diverse he actually did a really interesting video on his eye Mac Pro versus a deck delt custom-built PC so I chopped a link down below make sure you guys check that out but yeah with the i9 MacBook Pro it was about 10 minutes faster than the baseline i7 model which in this case is a huge difference next from there it's time to jump over to Final Cut Pro 10 and a theme you'll see what this is it is so much faster than Premiere Pro it's not even funny at this point I do want to state with these Final Cut Pro test I did leave background rendering off so these timelines working the unrendered as exported because that's going to give us the truest representation of how these machines actually work that also means if these timelines were rendered the exports would be even faster but as you'll see even with back or under and off the exports are crazy fast so first up is that Arri Alexa Mini 4k Pro res footage pretty much an identical timeline to what I used in Premiere Pro the only difference is in Final Cut Pro with back row rendering off it's still exported these in the two minute realm now because Pro res is so efficient you're not really needing a ton of processing power so if you edit natively in Pro res and don't need a transcode there might not be a huge reason to go to i9 but it's still faster nonetheless next from there I took that 5k red raw footage about five minutes of that and an export of that in to pro res 42 again much faster than Premiere Pro but the big difference here is the i9 was actually about three minutes faster which is more of a big deal next up from there is Sony a7 three footage again this is 4k 100 megabit dropped into a 1080p timeline and then exported into a 1080p a shot to 64 file once again the i-9 is definitely faster than the baseline i7 MacBook Pro but it depends how much you need that speed so if you shoot a lot of a7 footage and maybe that isn't super tempting to use and I would honestly stay with the i7 because it's gonna perform great with tasks like that next from there in Final Cut Pro 10 jumping back to the candidacy to enter raw Lite footage where we saw exports in Premiere Pro of 28 and 38 minutes we saw export speeds of 9 minutes and 7 minutes on these MacBook Pros again here the i9 is the faster machine and for the most part that kind of seems to be the going rate about one to three minutes of performance difference obviously there are variables maybe you're using Pro res maybe you're working in 1080p and those instances where the performance isn't huge that's where you got to decide is the i9 or the i7 better for me now yes I use Final Cut Pro to edit every single one of my videos the video you're watching right now is edited in Final Cut Pro 10 I don't want to turn this into a Final Cut versus Premiere war but I think if you're editing on a Mac at least give Final Cut Pro a shot or maybe even try to Vinci resolve because that is light-years faster than Premiere Pro as well in DaVinci Resolve I took that candidacy to win a raw footage exported that into an h.264 file and it was honestly almost as fast as Final Cut Pro 10 and again miles faster than Premiere Pro so Adobe you really need to step up the performance next from there using handbrake I took an MKV blu-ray rip of garden's the galaxy and then transcoded that into h.264 once again the i9 macbook pro was about two minutes faster from there I took a 22-minute for ka saath 264 file and then transclude that in compressor to 4k HEV see in this case the i9 MacBook Pro was a little over a minute faster so it's not a huge difference but where I'm willing to bet the bigger difference is is jumping from 6 core to last year's quad-core and that'll definitely be next up in the testing so it's been quite the mouthful my brain is just about melted you see in certain cases where the iodine actually makes sense in certain cases it doesn't but hopefully you found this video helpful there's more testing to be done though last year's model 13-inch MacBook Pros if you haven't yet make sure you subscribe turn on that Bell Center miss those videos q shoutout to D brand for supplying that beautiful skin maybe you want to upgrade your MacBook but you want to upgrade it looks does the cheapest easiest sexiest way to do that link below this is Jonathan and I will catch you guys later