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16 CORE RYZEN CPU!! WAN Show May 19, 2017

2017-05-19
we've been live for a bit we were just you know we were having like a contemplative hahaha did you know that old time yeah you just let that happen yeah yeah as I was watching you over here I'm on it's like she's just so majestic hahahaha so we've got a we've got a great children of you guys today it's actually been a heck of a week I don't know what you've been doing but I've been I've been traveling to the faraway land of Toronto oh wow Canada um majestic all manner of my job who are you visiting with tell the people dad mouth saenko so uh Cinco yep yeah Coleman no I good I went with Joel I figured that was pretty cool yeah alright so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today AMD announces Fred Ripert and uh all for those named the chip formerly known as Naples with a far more controversial name well forgotten well destiny too is going to be exclusively on battlenet which is actually kind of interesting because I believe before they were saying steam or just open to everything and wanna cry has only collected ninety two thousand dollars in ransom which like considering the scope there on is really not very much we'll talk about that later Wow crazy wild phantom is almost you know movie the whole thing I'm actually like my brain is pretty tired like I did I went three hours one way and three hours the other way and like which is like not enough for 56 hours kind of thing like it's and like generally speaking I handle the timezone shift pretty well but I also was up till 3 a.m. Eastern Time Western Western time fills like nothing no don't stop vanilla now I'm not going to stop the stream savage thank you 79 of your wig line is up - books and also the tech carnival hey do not many tickets we sold for that ah go ask me all the time and I'm like I don't know but I couldn't know I could find out yeah I could definitely find out I'm gonna ask sippy P um I love that guy he's awesome alright well I'm not doing the wind are okay do you want to yeah yeah well every all is forgiven okay so should I talk about my trip do you want to talk about what you've been up to this week or get it actually where you're through okay because I I want to know so I signed an NDA Oh minute I walked into the studio really yes what so I can tell you that much what okay I will tell you I will tell you things that I'm allowed to tell you because like here's the thing is less were you working on I guess you can't face his studio is like his house so like oh so he doesn't want you to talk about like so I I like met people and like it was an NDA but like the people that were there and the stuff that was there oh yeah like the photos NDA but what you're doing I was like I never think I know what you're doing it's not it's an NDA of like making sure that you properly respect someone's privacy yeah who is a public figure yeah and till notes closely makes sense so there's a separate release that we're going to get signed for everything that we're publishing from the piece that we did and then like he gets to sign off on it but like basically what I can say is that Joel Zimmerman aka deadmau5 super chill guy yeah we were supposed to be there from 1:00 until like the end of the work day we didn't leave until the wee hours of the morning just like shooting the and working on working on our video and just like it's actually really cool the guy is so there's there's a huge difference between people that are famous for like for like being famous I guess like socialites and people who are people who are famous for just like really really caring deeply about their craft and the guy's a gigantic geek like yeah such a nerd I've thought about getting his master class not because I want to learn how to actually do that stuff because I would be horrible at it we both know this but I think it would just be interesting to watch because I like watching people that are that passionate about something just talk about it yep and so and it's it's what's cool is that no matter how basic of a thing we were talking about because for me electronic music is like explain like I'm five pretty much yeah I don't know much about the scene I don't know much about the artists I had I confessed it to him I was just like so as part of my research and due diligence for this trip I put you into google play music and like listened to some music I legitimately have listened to a lot of his stuff and we probably everything and the funny thing about it a see was just crazy chill about even even like like for me that's pretty embarrassing but it's less embarrassing for me to admit it up front right then for him to be like you know something something something what do you think of this song and you're like oh is it one of yours no some stuff okay good river stage oh alright Google Play Music conveniently sorts by popular so lay up okay so when when know so when when we were looking at some stuff that I can't talk about but that is really cool it was going to be in the video like I recognized saying one song that was good and we used to have lands one song that we could play like on the speakers because my parents and my friends and me all liked it was a dead most song it was stroke okay head under that one but like like it's just kind of funny that like out of all the music between all the different genres that all people like that these like really big lands with lots of people it ended up being some deadmau5 songs right that were the easiest to play so ya know it was really fun he's super cool we spent the entire day there and basically it's going to be like a studio tour but not like most people would go in and do a studio tour with deadmau5 in fact in some ways I think me not being a rabid fan boy it probably helped us approach to do a little bit differently because I think you know what would a typical person do they'd walk in they'd be like can you wear the hat right that's kind of lame and so and actually specifically want him to not put the hat on so instead you know we're looking at ah I don't like I don't know what I can say what I can't say like I'm some G series s I'm sure he'd be cool about it but like we're looking at the tech behind how he does things yeah he even does like a short so because I was like okay explain like I'm completely stupid how electronic music works and he actually does like like a like a kindergarten level like demo live demo super cool just it'll be it'll be great for anyone like mine personally really stoked was like electric electronic music is like that kind of dude you like is that but what does that mean and and we get this very basic explanation of its really awesome that's cool however he loved here I was grading projects I was trying to finalize contracts with people about things I was modernizing something that I'm not going to mention what the heck else did I do meeting with multiple accountants about weird really annoying stuff one of which like wants me to this is going to go a little bit too even a persona we called the stupid stream after party odd well carry on one of them no I told both of them that I'm a US and Canadian citizen and one of them like very aggressively wanted me to move the states renounce my Canadian citizenship and get convinced you guys that flow plane should move to the States and all this kind of stuff what and like had a giant picture of Trump on his wall it was a really weird meeting yeah a lot of weird stuff happened this week that's probably how I'd frame that to be completely honest but yeah there you go okay um sure and right out okay I actually tried out a really wicked keyboard okay it's a pre-release keyboard from wu-tang I'm making a video on it but it's the optical key switches where it's like an analogue gradient as you go down uh yeah yang wheel driving we finally got one of those in I think we were had one like aged ever ago and they said they'd they didn't want to send me an early one because they were like we want to send you one when it's done so you can see it when it's ready and it will kill an early one because I asked forever ago I think around like Computex last year and yeah so when it's wu-tang like like boom ting not wu-tang did I say we turn no you didn't okay but twitch chat is like Maru tank even know I know it's not a little tanky yeah get out of here all right in the wings but yeah now he can he can he can he can go he is dismissed all right yeah let's so this was originally posted on the forum by Doc swag I have more to talk about with full plane but I think if I'm ready or not why also I want to line it up for when we do the little bit of a teaser thing okay sure okay all right AMD Oh what oh oh did we move but we moved the HDMI the doodads around hold on what I'll be right back okay I talked about yeah yeah yeah I'm Dan we'll be introducing stuff called thread Ripper risin thread Ripper this there am visible oh sorry they will have 16 cores and 32 threads that's why they're called the thread Ripper which is just absolutely ridiculous I believe there's a couple different yeah there will be up to nine different thread rippers hey these are rumors the 1998 ex and 1998 with 16 cores the 1977 ex and 1977 with 14 cores 1976 ex and 1956 ex and 1956 all have 12 cores and then the 1955 ex and 1955 with 10 cores why are they making this so complicated it's a little messy okay it's really messy but having it be a m4 and being able to get 16 cores is pretty sick so this is all this is all also these are claims from WTF tag just to be clear wait hold on and there's also saying that these thread Ripper CPUs won't be compatible with the a m4 socket which or just 1331 pins but will demand a massive 4,000 94 pins that have a picture of it was that the epic thing that that little epic although it wouldn't surprise no it wouldn't surprise me if thread Ripper is it will look the same as epic and fit in the same socket so much like what Intel does with their high-end desktop so their 2011 VIII's and their xeon platform which also fits in socket 2011 v3 I'm expecting AMD to have their epic line of server chips and their thread Ripper line of high-end desktop and or workstation chips exist on the same socket so that will allow them to have more PCIe lanes more pins for interfacing with more cores up to I believe it is 6 channel memory I'll try to find that I read that wrong and thought it was on a different socket sorry guys um 6 I can't remember it's an 8 channel memory or something stupid like that I can't remember I think it's a channel memory actually now that I think about it and then the other the other thing is that what's still looked ok so what's interesting about this to me is that the way that Intel differentiate their Xeon processors on LGA 2011 three and their their core i7 processors on LGA 2011 three is a couple of things and the main ones are dual socket support so I would expect that that will continue to be a differentiator for AMD but the other thing that Intel does to keep them separate from each other is support for ECC registered memory on Xeon system journals of your 16 channel I think that 16 channels to the dual ah wait 16 channel Wow okay well maybe maybe twitch chat I don't know about to be automatic so that's the epic so 430 if you want 32 dims so yeah um the epic is on the same platform yeah I guess diagnose that could be another way that they differentiate them right so yes so rumour Rumour there will be up to 9 thread rippers I really I kind of hope they just call them risin 9 to make life a little bit easier and I really am not sure what I think of these convoluted kind of zones for them the 1998 ex and 1998 tell me this 16 cores on a desktop what's the value here if you want to run like for Lyme tech systems on one system so I'll let you in on a little secret I've chatted with the line tech boys and so far virtualization on Rison is not a great experience okay go ahead carry on okay streaming to a lot of places at one time add a lot of different like output resolutions sure and for some reason you don't have like a separate box handling that yeah okay what else you got no I'm going to bench sure amazing sentiment the best in the bench so we actually did a demo a little while ago re-rendering yeah yeah okay so like workstation workstation but you wasn't saying works yeah because I'd like I'm talking like competition with high-end desktop like to me I'm kind of looking at thread ripper going this seems like a very niche product right now because risin 7 already goes all the way up to 8 quite high-performance cores yeah which for desktop workloads like it's about like like it's about like talking about how your how high-performance your SSD is when it requires cue depths of 16 in order to even you know differentiate itself from a low-end SSD like that's what we're talking about we're talking about a product with all this theoretical power but that a desktop workload pretty much wouldn't touch and to be clear I am not complaining the fact that AMD is coming in and putting pressure on Intel about core counts is great but right now I think the sweet spot is just six-course so what people in chat are naming a lot of things that you could do with it that aren't the scenarios that learn to solve okay a lot of what people are listing our workstations that's and remember all our station one of them was like steady at home and stuff that's not a which is like it's not necessarily workstation no but it's not really uh like it's a it's it's it's more like a power virus it's less like an actual thing that you're in or the computer doing yet to be clear it has a value but most people remember we're talking about if you don't sing like cryptography and stuff who's actually doing that it I'm like you're probably doing this GB and GPUs are a thing yeah another guy said Bitcoin mining but like again yeah I go with a graphics card yeah or don't they have like a video rendering I'm out of date on the whole Bitcoin thing I'm doing Jake's trying to convince me to do like another Bitcoin it's still you still kind of just want to use your video credit yeah it is it still just video cards okay yeah and I think I'd like activities you can form up so basically what is what I see as being positive about this is that it's putting pressure on Intel to finally give us more than four cores and it's putting and it not apparently apparently I'm wrong how GPUs are not a thing well no they still are but yeah I'm not sure um okay now let's talk about the chip formerly known as Naples so here's what I don't get why is it that companies that have great code names like Zen architecture and Naples product code name which is like inoffensive unoffensive it's not offensive what's offensive about epic it's stupid yeah okay it's like it's like you're you're marketing this to like data center professionals why are you calling it epic why don't you just call it elite while you're at it yeah yeah yeah you said you said inoffensive though okay no that's not an offense it's not offensive it's like it's just a little silly I mean to be clear it's not like I necessarily have a better answer and like it's possible they would have wanted to call it XenServer or something like I don't know what they wanted to call it but there's there's always complications around you know trademark infringement and copyright and all that kind of stuff so you know maybe that was the only thing left but unless it like stood for something really cool then I don't really I don't really get this as like a as an enterprise-grade product now with that said we should we got a strawpoll this because I was going back and forth with another with another journalist this morning actually on Twitter and we were kind of debating debating this whole this whole thing you know I thought dad yeah okay I'm not going to say what side anybody was on but it was Ian from a non tech we were chatting about it and the other side of the argument that got brought up was okay we'll hold on a minute what if your typical like data center you know purchaser you know is goes home and watches anime and like plays video games and like thinks that things are epic and you know like is it really that far off I don't think it would be that far off okay so let's just stop all this epic um you know what at the same time personally if I was purchasing this I would worry about this being on an invoice that would be handing someone okay okay so because that would be like maybe they just think I'm buying it because it's cool it doesn't sound like it sounds flashy and it sounds like something in toys are ass it doesn't sound like serious infrastructure hardware you know what I mean yeah but you know with that said it's not like some companies haven't had a ton of success with that oh definitely red cameras the red dragon right red epic while we're at it yeah red wedding yeah but then it like at least they spelled it right like I feel I feel like button seriously I feel like you'd be more proud about this if they put an eye there instead of a why like would you like it more if it was spell right because because a big part of your defenses whole times that it's been silly I'm gonna be honest no I won't like that it's interesting now that they've gone down the path of Rison being ry okay so every the second letter does always have a note this woman's going with the eyes okay are wise and like so lame it well yes I hate that but if your guy here we say me to listen I got you I got you I just hate that okay so so far my professional yeah are saying I'm on the end that makes sense because I'm on the unprofessional to neutral things I don't really care but I would part of me would be like like I might have to defend this to someone because they can be like why did you buy something called an epic why are you buying epic processors yeah like we just need some infrastructure stuff what are you doing and I'd have to be like okay like epic is really good because it has a lot of threads and it's cheaper and it has a lot of memory bandwidth and then by then their eyes glaze over and then you really sign up yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like okay everything's fine but like that was an unnecessary amount of communication that had to happen yeah and you know like the stupid thing is like we're probably gonna we're probably we're probably gonna all like okay that it doesn't matter anymore in a number of years but somewhat someone named Linus rocking mandals in the chat I don't know what's going on there but said no because intel owns the I letter for processors and like obviously like they don't own it but that's an interesting point they might be trying to stay away from the I in anything there are lots of words that don't have eyes in them yeah like blind what I'm genuinely confused no I've oh oh you can have eyes and be flies which is booing so hard it's just like boo you can be blind with eyes still you don't have to like have your eyes have been removed line oh yeah I should just end it all now um oh we're good okay so at any rate drive it brutal that let's talk let's talk about the chip formerly known as Naples okay I was right eight channel ddr4 16 channel ddr4 one of these articles so single-dose rip now known as epic single socket processor with scales up to 32 cores and as far as I know there will be dual socket variants as well no that's fancy I'm giving are we getting some I have I am in touch they wanted a board so basically what what who I don't know as I can say okay what I can say I can talk generally about server hardware generally speaking if someone's going to cede you server hardware they're going to be like what are you going to do with this because if my answer is we're good friends in a bench I'm going to be like cool go buy one then so if we come up with for me I want to come up with a really cool project so I want a couple of 32 core ethics for a total of 64 cores and I want to figure out something completely banaynays that we can do with it so assuming that it's speed transcoding yp9 8k footage Sherdog like you so there's that that would be really cool I had another idea every phone um if so is that like something that you know just that would be wonderful fail with more CPU cores basically infinitely uh there's we're still talking to boiler but it boiler Watts to do this thing which completely makes sense that I'm totally on board but we can't do right now cuz you're not on the infrastructure right now it's like distributed transcoding where you like slice up the video and then transcode it in a bunch of different places on a bunch of different servers right actually record if we had a 64 core machine would that be unnecessary maybe do in one place right I don't know it's still a target boiler apparently it's like 30 times harder yeah because keep in if you just have like a monstrous computer then maybe oh well yeah okay okay so I'd be totally down for that okay and then one of the ideas that I wanted to look at is where it's always got if they've got virtualization sorted out a little bit more to be specific I'm talking about KVM so Red Hat KVM because that's what on raid uses I think it would be amazing to get my hands on like a multi-gpu bare-bones server much like what we did for 10 gamers one CPU but well it's just like yes excavation work and what get this what I'm thinking is the entire editing then running off of one power 6 editing 610 core editing workstations off of a single tower okay so that's kind of something that I have in mind for what I'd like to do with it so I'm going to I'm going to try and come up with some cool projects but yeah basically it's this this thing is unbelievable so eight core memory up to 16 games per CPU they've got it provides up to a hundred and twenty eight PCI Express 3.0 lanes allowing you to connect more GPUs directly to the CPU and that's really important for machine learning type applications we've got our unboxing of ssues the fastest supercomputer in Canada so I went down there and they've got they've got a ton of GPU nodes and they would love to have the GPUs connected directly to the PCIe lanes on the CPU in fact we were talking about that fir it's in my notes but I don't remember exactly what workload specifically it was okay we're Intergeo communication is incredibly important and the more hubs that you have to pass through the worse and then I even talked to the so cool talking to like these high-level architect guys I'm like okay well what about envy link and he's like yeah the cost just wasn't right for what we're doing is it's all these kinds of trade offs where normally as a consumer you hear about this crap and you've gotten video on a stage with fricking wood screws and whatever it is that they're talking about going this is the future of blah blah blah but then you know to us but this is all totally unattainable stuff whereas you're talking about people who are working on data centers that are in the value of ten to twenty million dollars where they are actually taking like a two million dollar solution and a three million dollar solution and evaluating it the same way that we would like to different yeah but that they're just working on a different scale it's all the same conversations it's like do I want to pay this much more for this much more performance increase and they just for their design it didn't end up making sense and and it was going to add some cost and I don't know the exact numbers so there's no like nd8 information that I could hope to give you I just know that they didn't use it and they opted for these they opted for certain you note some of the GPU nodes for certain workloads are connected directly to the CPUs and some of them are not depending on what they're needed for and these ones are higher cost that's just like how cool huh that's pretty fancy you guys are so baller I love you so epic is expected to launch before the end of June you can tell AMD is in full-on crisis mode about their stock dropping what was it two weeks ago well my goodness no matter what stuff covering we have stuff please just wait we have so much top even Radeon technologies group was showing off stuff so this was originally posted by PC gamer 324 on the forum the original article here is from oh three a three okay well Digital Trends here we go AMD's Radeon Vega Frontier Edition is the most powerful graphics card yet according to AMD alright so the numbers put forth by AMD are as follows it'll have 64 next generation compute unit so that's thirteen teraflops of peak single precision 32-bit compute performance which should put it in the neighborhood of invidious top cards I think their top card is 12 and that's a Quadro p6 thousands don't quote me on that but I'm trying to look this up as quickly as I can quadrille p6000 yep twelve teraflops for their top-of-the-line quad row which is about a $5,000 graphics card what else do we know about it it I wasn't sure about all the stuff you said I was checking in with something 16 gigs of HBM to memory so that's pretty impressive on a super-wide 2048 bit bus have you shown them the shroud the shroud looks freaking sick yeah AMD finally gets it on the shroud although if it's like plastic and kind of cheesy looking that I really don't know gonna be that impressive to be fair the last one that they came out that was plastic and cheesy looking once it was in a case it was actually a little hard to tell right okay built with like not amazing but it wasn't that bad so they're saying that vega's memory architecture can access terabytes of memory and we've actually seen them kind of moved beyond the like the memory that's there like HP m2 orgy DDR memory that is soldered to the board and what was that what was that professional card that was using SSDs like it was using NAND in order to have I forget how much memory it was on it I don't remember I'm sorry you guys I wish I had like a more exact set of talking points for this but they were showing it off at CES and the idea was that they were using NAND flash in order to dramatically increase the amount of basically the size of the project that you could work on because it's still faster since you've got a nice lightning fast interface than trying to go out to like a scratch disk or something so apparently AMD is claiming that they've done several benchmarks with it and the Vega frontier Edition is apparently 70% faster in SolidWorks okay which is like pretty insane another program that I haven't personally heard of called katia I'm hoping I'm saying that correctly is it's 27% faster in okay which is pretty wild I mean AMD has been known from time to time sorry I didn't mean to get an ice cube in my mouth from them okay it's gone in earnest so Andy has been known to cherry-pick benchmarks from time to time but still it's promising and like that happened last time you just reorganizing and controls event that happened last time with their CPUs to a certain degree but then a big part of what they're claiming did end up being true that's right and what we do know based on that it's not getting completely stomped on is that we're going to have competition yeah at least until Nvidia trickles down volt and like yeah but there's like with their CPU what they were claiming did completely end up being true yeah so if you're into SolidWorks there's one really cool thing that is happening yeah but again it depends on how you're benchmarking that specifically what kind of projects you're working what you have inside works is okay this is basically the AMD show at this point laptops are coming rise and mobile rise in Pro the original article is trusted reviews let's go ahead and pull that up don't worry we'll get through this eventually rise and finally comes to laptops this I'm actually excited about I would love to have like a 6 or an 8 core laptop that would be awesome I don't know if they're going to be able to get the power low enough and I haven't actually looked that closely at this yet but like 6 core laptop would be freaking awesome and be is claiming 50% more CPU performance than its previous seventh generation ap use lordy I would hope so yeah and a lot of games are a little whimsical I think because they're from kind of you know older stuff so 40% better graphics performance and a 50% cut in power but you're jumping quite a few categories are quite a few generations yeah of improvement that Intel's been making so you they might not be leapfrogging Intel but I guess the promise here is that they're going to be competitive and then they also announced risin Pro a version designed for business pcs huh Wow so that we get a weird like I get it pro professional but for a long time Pro has been like a gaming thing yeah like higher just like higher performance yeah you know that's actually a little bit weird but oh well click if you like rides and smart or like even just rising business what yeah cool so back up a little bit it helps them to kind of announce all this stuff kind of looks like it I mean they haven't quite recovered from this was when they did their their quarterly report right yeah ok well yeah we'll see how that goes I mean I don't know what cheering the thing I don't know what people were expecting from that quarterly earnings report like if I am I am barely accurate to what yes if I invested I in tech companies I actually love to know what our viewers think like should I be allowed to invest in tech companies because I'll argue I'm allowed to but I have to disclose it okay yeah but like it's it's a matter of whether they will allow me to but I I would have I would have probably bought some AMD right after that drop because it was the drop was based on people having completely unrealistic and unrealistic reaction to what AMD has been doing over the last quarter it's like rising seven and even rise in five are the tip of the iceberg you guys that's like the enthusiasts gamer chip and then the like slightly less enthusiast gamer chip where they're going to move volume is rise in three and where they're going to make margin and start to be profitable is going to be products like thread Ripper and epic so and yeah I don't know what people were asking for they're not only that but you know any new product is going to take some time to ramp up in terms of yields in terms of having stock on the shelves in terms of the platform maturing a little bit I mean I don't know if you guys notice but you didn't hear from us run out and buy Rison in the first six weeks because it was it was promising and we were confident that AMD and their partners like hey soos and gigabyte and MSI we were confident they were going to get all this stuff addressed but it wasn't yet and when you buy a computer it needs to work on the day you buy it so I mean a lot of people criticized us for doing a core i5 build guide shortly after the launch of Rison but the reality of it was when we were filming that we weren't ready to say go buy a rise in PC yet not to be clear it has improved a lot like a lot so I am expecting over the next quarter or two these kinds of results to change in a big way sorry oh no problem oh they want me to do a strawpoll ok you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna do a couple let's rap on whether I should be allowed to invest in company oh do you like yeah I don't know I I don't know so to be clear I actually oh this is something I've been meaning to talk about on land show for quite some time we are working on it like a private deal with a much much smaller tech company so maybe I'll talk about it after hour after hour ad break but not it's actually bad about that well it creates a potential conflict of interest like if I oh yeah and then yeah I own a bunch of invidious stock as a viewer because I thought I thought we were looking at be like insider trading side of things no I don't think that's an issue because I can just not buy when I know anything and that's pretty easy to do because I think you know if you were to just go okay the embargoes up three minutes later now that everyone knows all the same things I know go buy Groupon I mean you can you can kind of beat the rush on that kind of thing if you wanted to is it an advantage yes but is it against the law as far as my understanding goes no it wouldn't be right so as a viewer I would say no you would say no I've won eleven yes go ahead and cast your vote because so for me where I where I've kind of drawn the line already because like I said we are working on an investment deal with a really really small company so where I kind of draw the line is that if it's stuff that we cover competitive like the competitors of like if it's stuff where it's kind of one option or the other and we're I'm in a position to inflate the appearance of let's say but then I guess is every so would you be declaring in every 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just all gone okay well this is my favorite one but he hid it from me so I couldn't have any more of it hmmm are you good so far you had the ghost pepper so you didn't have quite the hottest one this one's actually still sealed the ghost pepper and buffalo sauce is hot enough for me but some ghost pepper Jake does really good with spice he's very very playful all right so savage jerky whoo-hoo see that one where to go mojo habanero gives you a bit of a kick mm-hmm but it's not like like it's not doing that to me like I feel good it woke me up a little bit it's definitely spicy it definitely hits you my mouth is burning but it's like yeah an okay amount of burning I'm not having uncontrollable hiccups I guess I guess one spicy so you can buy a mix you can get like crack pepper and sea salt yeah and a few other ones and like find your find your sweet spot like I did with mojo had to be clear all in the troll your friend is good yeah it's just what you can handle yep so savage jerky is made with the best ingredients without nitrates or or preservatives ah and the goal was to create a snack that's full of flavor and spice that isn't bad for you the inspiration came from the flavor of garlic lime and cilantro as it brings out the natural flavor in premium beef and this is in my notes people seem to love the sriracha bacon maple buffalo bacon and the traditional flavors they also make barbecue sauce no I had no idea that's cool so use offer code ltte to save 10% over at Savage jerky dot-com the crack pepper and sea salt it's like a really good but more traditional style beef jerky we have the problem with that one is that you can rip through a whole pack like two minutes yeah so yeah if you want to like troll your friends and get a ghost pepper Reaper something like that it works or you might like it if you have to reverse bite it's actually easier it gets a little bit easier just get easier alright oh it's with it's also when you stop though because it gets easier after the first bite and then for a while but then when you stop eating it oh yeah I know that hits you again so l TX l TX is the tech carnival that we're doing in the summer we're going to have booths games prizes and us the whole LMG team will be there a few examples of the kinds of booths that we're going to have like we wanted you to be just kind of goofy so it's gonna be stuff like guess how many CPUs are in the jar um video editing whispers yes good like the jelly bean thing but like CPUs I think free geeks probably gonna be into okay yeah there with like you know just some no free you can be there may be may be okay DVD but like we're in talks with actually a lot of pretty cool folks okay one other example would be the case toss so we're going to get a case manufacturer to give us some cases io their own now I'm not exactly who but someone's going to do it okay okay because I'm pretty excited about that and I know there's a few people that are pretty excited about that we're gonna do like a VR with Luke demo so basically you'll be like kind of showing people though that's exciting that's cool I've been wondering this whole time what I was going to do yeah that's really and then Terrans probably going to be doing like he'll have an l TT video and he'll just be working on it the whole time so you can actually watch teryn edit you can ask him questions that's been a great idea we're not expecting him to actually get anything done because people will be like blah blah blah but like if people want to see how it's done in person I thought that would be really cool but it's going to like pick up his workstation and take it there so we've got a lot of really cool ideas there's at least a few hundred people coming so far so it's not going to necessarily be like over a thousand people and crazy but that may actually be a blessing in disguise because at least that way we're going to be covering with ah like a significant title sponsor we should be able to cover most of the cost of the venue already and and it'll actually it could end up being a pretty intimate event although now that I say that if it was like oh yeah I want to go to an infinite huh so no guarantees how many people are going on limo ride I think that's sold out whoa yeah cool so that was that happens faster than I expected um I thought at when I first read that that by the limo they meant the Civic no no everyone was like oh that's too many people yeah yeah ten people in my Civic would be like pretty intimate as that goes all right I'll talk about this wanna cry collects basically no ransom despite infecting 200 thousands machines so the deadline is is beginning to pass here the original article is from Bloomberg I have a theory um and apparently the attackers have claimed only about ninety two thousand dollars in payments ha how about that hey my theory is if this happened like a number of years ago like when I was still in high school I think it would have actually been a lot more impactful because now I think if people like have a baby now or get engaged now all their photos go up on social media so it's not their one backup that's on their computer and I think what they ran into here was if people had super important stuff the three hundred bucks was not good but probably not the end of the world and then other people are like oh well this is a fairly major inconvenience but I can go get my computer reformatted and everything's fine because everything I do is in a browser notice how they're releasing computers they're like almost just browsers right yeah so like for a lot of people it's like oh what the heck is this they show it to some techie friend or they bring it to Geek Squad they're just like oh yeah we can do it cheaper than that ransom price anyways but we have to do some stuff and then people that are like oh my goodness this is mission critical information 300 bucks for like a big business sucks but like hmm not the end of the world so if even one percent of people had paid the ransom it would have worked out to over six times the amount they actually collected so I feel like almost no Joe Snow's actually paid for it and it gets worse because of the attention on this particular case the authorities think it's unlikely the money's the attackers have received will be transferred from Bitcoin to more traditional currencies due to the risk of it being detected yeah with that said there's a lot of stuff you can buy with bitcoins so I don't think that's a bigger problem as some people might yeah but they could they could still track that to a certain degree right I guess that's like that money is sketch depending on but but okay but there's minor consumers they might buy very illegitimate things scatter it around and then yeah what yeah no yeah should be fine oh really apparently people sell like mixing it up and obscuring it as a service that's cool I don't know enough about but why do you know this go away Jake is secretly running Silk Road 3 right now out of his house you told me this offline great yeah yeah okay can I have a favor can I have more water please yes the payment Bitcoin through his secret onion well thank you I'm dying thank you and ice to thank you you see the latest alliances okay oh that hurt yeah I like have like are you doing yeah oh your throats even red here well that's probably for you that I always have a redneck okay yeah born in the sticks um oh okay so you need milk I don't think we just have milk now we don't unfortunately and yes I know milk works a lot better than water so this was originally posted on the forum by WM groom a K and the original article is from the tech report obtained ins and companion CPUs will arrive in 2018 so if you haven't been paying attention to this obtain dims are going to be super high capacity module level two that will fit in that are going to much better super high-capacity modules that will fit in otherwise normal Ram slots as far as I know then there will be a like a special BIOS configuration that allows you to use it as a slower kind of so if you got your level 1 cache and your level 2 cache your level 3 cache I'll guess in some cases there's level 4 but don't worry about it then your next here is DRAM and then traditionally your next here was mint but it's like many orders of magnitude slower so octane sits in between and what this will allow you to do is have a massive effective memory capacity for your system without needing so many DIMM slots and without spending so much so when we were checking out that set to use supercomputer one of the things that they told us was that oh okay oh they're uh they're systems that needed one-and-a-half terabytes of excuse me yeah wait yeah one-and-a-half terabytes of memory had to be to you just so they could fit all those RAM slots then the systems that we're going to be used for workloads that needed even more memory than that the three terabyte memory systems of which I think they only have four had to be for you systems with quad sockets but get this the quad socket CPUs they were using for eight course so their quad socket systems actually had the same number of cores as their dual sixteen core socket systems or their dual socket sixteen core systems so 32 uh yeah 32 total and so good because the only reason they needed it well so they could have more ram so this could solve that problem as long as the workloads that they're using can are okay with the data being a little bit slower but not as low as trying to put it on NAND flash someone just asked me what I'm eating we literally just a sponsor's box yeah savage jerky I'm just still eating their stuff another cool thing is that they're saying that it's supposed to be cheaper lower prices in DRAM yes much cheaper than beer and which like usually happens with new technologies over time it's not super common for that to happen with a new technology right out of the gate yeah that's pretty cool but it's intended to be yeah because it's it's designed to be an order of magnitude bigger than G Ram but also a lot cheaper to sit right in between mend and de grandma I'm actually I'm super excited to see where this takes us in the future oh I realized I should probably talk about the deal that we are working on so we've been we've been working with lime tech makers of unread for a year and a half now I think going all the way back to oh no cuz seven gamers one CPU well you're gonna have to go hmm so it would have been closer to two years now I guess wow really anyway so we've worked with them on a number of projects we use their software and I like it so much that basically what we're what we're working on is an agreement where I would actually take a stake in the company and I would be working with them on future development we seen it in action in terms of where it's at today but I think that there's a lot of stuff that we could help with that would make it so that they could really take things to the next level so basically that's where I'm at on that nothing is finalized so I can't really I can't really give any more detail than that but I just thought in the interest of you guys understanding you know sort of what we're up to over here I want to make sure that's clear the reason that I was comfortable with lime tech even though I have specifically gone out of my way to not buy shares and companies like AMD and Intel is that we don't really cover their competitors I mean not just in the last two years but even you go back a couple years before that we basically don't touch nav systems and the reason for that is because we just don't really like most of them we don't think they're we don't think they user-friendly we don't think they're that easy to use which is the same thing we talk the main reason that I don't like the Mara and quite frankly viewer interest is not that high and a lot of the stuff that we've done with unraised has really been more about the other functionality that it has so like the the virtualization and stuff like that so yeah that's basically where I'm at on that so what else do we got and we go actually a lot of topics is these are scrapper doors yeah I'm down how are we how are we going to do that again jump to random part hmm okay so I don't know how to do I owe you know what I never figured out the audio input so that's a thing that I didn't do let's go ahead we know it last time I held up the lava rock to run hydrophone which was terrible um so that might be the only way to do this well it's not the only way but I feel I can't you listen to it over HDMI right now because I don't know either these don't take audio all right click on it okay what yeah I think go to camera quick but I can't yeah change the audio from built-in flash none to the recorder that you want to come from nevermind there they go see what what would I do without you what would I do without you probably a lot of the same stuff it just wouldn't be as fun or is good yeah yeah yeah Luke so I scrapyard for season 5 episode 1 hopefully this works up already over on floatplane Club Oh hold on well you got a playback devices is it oh I can't hear that in my monitor which is super scary because I have no idea what kind of volume I'm outputting at so I'm sure twitch chat will be telling me if I broke their eardrums yet you plugged it into the computer directly you would hear it yeah in theory this is that's how this is supposed to work that I forgot which one I'm supposed to plug into so good because I'm really really dumb maybe they can hear it's a little bit too loud okay well that most people are saying it's good though the vast majority people are saying it's good I feel like a little bit down and then okay we'll call that good so so you just want to skip to a 45 minute episode actually 46 minute episode you just want to skip to a random spot sure I don't know I don't even know what's going to come up okay why are we watching in three six on P that's peasant that's peasant stuff peasant stuff before you see that playback you see that lightning bass playback hold on hello stop here here listen for the click in wheat like oh one of the things to you is that West Coast's North America is like not even a good area for us yeah it's always over I don't even know what we're doing here me neither $25 over hi oh did we not have to preview looking for such long clip that once maybe intersect a little bear breaks there's a report you guys for ten bucks I wonder what we're figuring out here it looks like uh let's see okay okay okay okay so that that's enough so basically what was the point of this so scrapyard Wars Episode one is coming out that right there it's coming it on YouTube tomorrow tomorrow if you want to see episode two tomorrow you can sign up for floatplane and you can see that today episode one today and then watch episode two tomorrow and be totally caught up on the floatplane side of things also really cool note this is what I wasn't sure about telling you guys last time we now have some load balancing going on with Gio's so a lot of people in Australia and the kind of general European area have noticed a lot of improvements that's because we have some like kind of more on location servers for you guys up and running with some load balancing going on say where they are yeah Australian so it Australia and the other ones in France but it should be able to better serve you than ones in Canada so yeah a lot of people from various countries around Europe have had a much better experience than before when everyone was just going through Canadian service we are going to continue to expand so if you're in an area that like isn't super great right now ironically where we are is like not the greatest it's good you just watch the playback yeah it's good it could be slightly better and it will be slightly better because we eventually have Westco servers but yeah if you're in an area and you are consistently not getting super great bandwidth I'm not hearing this very often almost not at all but if you are let me know where you're from and we will look into getting that better to be clear like the infrastructure upgrades we're making right now have nothing to do with capacity for the platform um like there's a lot more people on it than you would probably think but it's not like you know a billion people or anything like YouTube or something it's more just trying to make user experience better yeah I mean this is the kind of boring stuff that takes months to work on and figure out where you want to launch and like bring a bunch other career and it's frustrating when like we're an international group and we have people from North America watching all the footage and they're like everything looks great I can watch 1080p everything it's snappy hooray and then someone from Australia's like I also download it yeah we're like I can sometimes watch it in 360p I'm like that's not fair people watch us from everywhere I want this to work well for everyone yeah that cost this much and now we're doing it so we're actually going to do like a more float plane another float plane QA after the land show if you guys you don't kind of hang around for that yeah um otherwise I think we've got a few more pretty good topics for you anyway one actually no we have like nothing oh wait no we do have more there's also a little teaser of Episode two on float plane only so if you're a full plane guy you haven't been there on there and a couple days jump on there check out the teaser for scrapping Roy's Episode two it's it's it's pretty good what huh so actually I did not know about this so this was supposed to by WM groom a K on the form the original article is from ARS technica and it looks like Google gets to keep their trademark even though it has turned into a generic term for searching the web so going back to our notes here when a brand name becomes completely ubiquitous like thermos I didn't even know teleprompter was a brand name me neither and video tape didn't know that with almighty messenger it can lose its legally protected status so the this process is called generis ID and in 2012 Google filed a cybersquatting complaint and claimed trademark infringement when amendment registered 763 domain names that combined Google with other words and phrases including Google Donald Trump com oh what a jerk I see what he was doing there so the man filed an appeal citing generis ID and the court ruled that Google still retains its trademark even if the term Google has become known for searching the internet so how does that actually work though um I have no idea I mean John would be a more sort of because like sensible person to talk about this hey hey John he's coming he's coming alright I'm giving up my seat I'm giving up my seat okay John's coming in to talk about genericized joggle generis ID alright okay hit me or Luke hit something yeah there you go good job well so - what Jenner outside Google almost potentially lost its trademark on Google because like oh I'll just google it has become a general term for looking something up on the internet someone sued them over it because they tried to take down a bunch of his domains and he was like okay a lot of pronouns there okay let's see in 2012 Google filed a cybersquatting complaint and claimed trademark infringement when a man register 763 domain names that combined Google with other words and phrases such as Google Donald Trump com the man found appeal signed engineer aside the core with a rule that Google still retains his trademark even if the term Google has become known for searching the Internet so how does that work isn't that literally but even though Google has become known for search Nina isn't that the whole point of genera side it is genera side is kind of um it's not a hard and fast rule it's not like Oh after a certain amount of time or a certain number of people say it in a generic manner it becomes generic it's a little bit squishy uh but they do look at things like and I don't know what happened in this case because I just had the one little note in front of me but they could have looked at something like Oh has Google taken a lot of steps to protect its trademark um you know back back in the day before when photo copiers were still like a like more of a cutting-edge thing than they are now people would say Oh Xerox it you know to make a copy even though there are tons of coffee errs not made by Xerox right so Xerox house you took out like a big newspaper ad say saying we're telling people say make a copy don't save Xerox is because they're trying to protect their trademark so if Google made you will show that they were taking active steps to Primark so maybe it also helps them because Google puts their Google branding on way more things than just a browser they do yeah that might help I have no idea yeah maybe it's in like I said it's kind of a squishy area of law I'm not surprised that Google one if it takes like quite yeah I mean just aside from the money they have to spend yeah it takes it takes a lot for a trademark to become generic so yeah so there you go cool that's it I think that's okay carry on reddleman get in I'm back the SaaS drone registry requirement got shut down the original article is from TechCrunch let's go ahead and pull that up but basically a federal appeals court shoots down ha ha ha ha ha the FAA is drone and I just the registry requirement it's likely that the FAA will appeal this decision or I think some other approach which seems to be very common in the states with stuff like net neutrality being tried like a billion time hundred billion different names so drone hobbyist John Taylor argued that the Federal Aviation Administration doesn't have jurisdiction over what the law classifies as model aircraft the registration database was proposed in 2015 to address growing drone ownership in the US which has brought with it privacy can and safety concerns so that's basically where we're at on that so stay tuned for more and okay winners of the casemod world series 2017 posted by rod rosenberg on the forum man I hate that guy was it rod yeah I don't I don't know I don't know if rod was did he post his own winning let's say no no it doesn't look like it was he in it or was he a judge yeah well I don't uh he has something to do with I'm just trying to find like it okay no there's there's no uh no beard rods maybe he said something in the link yeah I can't click on itself too stupid to do okay so the first winner was uh oh no I think he just thinks it's cool that Vega by SS pick Russia mom you know not FPSRussia that's a different thing but good try good try Thank You Nick ah looks cool that's apparently made out of a mastercase 5 it looks like they just chopped it like pretty early on completely and just recognize it'll we'll know the very bit at the front this bit is recognizable and that's it then it stops undergoes a complete structural change yeah we noticed the complete structural change you know they're pretty pretty intense yeah yeah like hey here's the case what is it'll just take the top corner of it you can take the ramp we don't need it not we built awesome what is that based on this is pretty clear you turistic ideas and metal not an elite one 130 okay yeah I can see that cool PSU on the side just put the PSU over there to be kind of open like you can see the graphics yeah because that's actually pretty much really pretty cool it looks really good yeah all right and that's pretty much it thank you for tuning in to the Rancho you'll see you again next week seeing that time same bat Channel outro oh yeah I'm really not firing all cylinders today that's cool actually I am I'm just in other places so someone's like finally a good LAN show episode good job guys rusalka and last week we got the one before that was created yeah oh yeah after party for less
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