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it doesn't matter okay so this is a video that I've actually been excited to make for quite some time it must have been at least like three months ago or something like this that that we came across let's see if I can find it here yeah there it is we came across this the can you get over here right yeah cool are you good the PC water cooling rate 240 millimeter cooler pump reservoir CPU block rigid Pipes d.i.y so this is a sub $80.00 full custom water cooling kit from one of those like Chinese retailers in this case banggood.com now in the time since I excitedly ordered this thing we have actually explored whether all-in-one liquid coolers are actually a better option than air coolers and what we found was that compared to a very high quality air cooler like one from say Noctua and AIO liquid cooler in every case that we measured actually was more expensive while not providing the same level of performance actually a lesser amount of performance however one of the things that we acknowledged in that video was that full custom water cooling loops were a little bit different so the goal today is to find out whether a cheap full custom water cooling loop is still worth the extra effort even if it actually doesn't cost any more than a high quality air cooler or a cheap AIO so it comes packed a little something like this and we're gonna we're gonna get to our unboxing of the banggood PC water cooling rate 240 okay I'm not going to do that again we're gonna get to that in a moment but first this were from our sponsor private Internet access features fast multi gigabit VPN tunnel gateways worldwide if you're looking for a VPN learn more at what's the offer code LNG dot G G slash p IA linus one also there's another thing we have to do hop hop on over here you guys you know Jake if we were really smart we would have taken a mirrored output from this bench and then you could have switched to a screen capture that would have been quite smart indeed but we didn't do that so Brendan just gets to film it so we're keeping this really simple basically this has only been sitting on here for man maybe five minutes or something like that so our CPU temp so we're just gonna sit about the thirty degrees range that's that's what we'd expected idle so we're gonna go ahead and we're going to run our test stress test for five minutes now okay if we were doing this as a pre-recorded video we would run this stress test for probably closer to about twenty minutes because the thing about liquid coolers is that because water can absorb so much thermal energy before its temperature actually raises what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to wait until it reaches what's called an equilibrium point where the amount of thermal energy that it's absorbing is equal to the amount that's being dissipated by the fans on the radiator so the way that you would typically do that is you'd wait for the water to warm up such that the difference between the temperature of the water and the temperature of the surrounding air is so great that the thermal transfer from the fans is more efficient and it matches the thermal transfer of the CPU block into the water loop that's how we would want to do it unfortunately we're doing this live you know we can probably get away with like a ten minute test let's do a ten minute test we're doing this live so what we're kind of stuck with here is a timed time to challenge so our idle temperatures were thirty we're gonna run this for ten minutes and we're gonna see where we end up on our CPU just so you guys know we are presenting both of these coolers with kind of a worst-case scenario here so this is a core I 917 Exe now I didn't do any overclocking or anything like that but wait a minute is this only getting why is this only getting 83% utilization what the devil is going on here that's weird does the FPU what you know that shouldn't normally hit a hundred percent ah 120 watts only ya know this this really does not sound right oh man okay ho ho boy now we get to do some live live troubleshooting and stuff oh man I didn't bother to plug this into network because I didn't think I was gonna need it I've had all the utilities that I wanted I'm just gonna I don't even know if I have network card drivers on here because this is just like a Rando bench that I grabbed and through a boot drive on oh man oh man yeah we simply will not be able to make do with eighty-five percent utilization there that's not that's not good enough okay so in the meantime we need to kill this test so that it can get back down to about 30 degrees which actually shouldn't take it that long and then dang it okay there's some good news at least one of my onboard network controllers does have a driver installed so we just need to wait for that to pick up and then we can grab another stress test oh yeah I want to allow that cool okay so at least I'm not gonna be using sneakernet to grab Network drivers off of my my work computer there alright um yo Anthony I de for some reason was only giving me 85% CPU usage the other suggested alternative I was gonna grab prime95 okay yeah sure I know prime95 is not cool anymore but like whatever no settings I just said it to some to stress F to you nothing else I know no I don't really get it what's that no I have not tried turning it off and turning it back on thank you Jake I don't have the turbo boost max technology driver installed but that shouldn't really matter no I'm not gonna stress about it we're just gonna grab the windows 64-bit thing here maybe I should do some super chats in the meantime all right where's my laptop no here it is alright that download come on baby don't have a lot of time to wait here people are waiting I don't know how many people are waiting because I don't have the chat open because I am super prepared for my stream like that but I'm sure at least three people are watching right now at least I know it's more than that Jake a couple thousand all right all right you know what you're adding pressure right now you're not actually making this easier no I have not tried turning it off and turning it back on yet is that is that a super chat or something like is that why your thank you Jake thank you for your input I appreciate it no I have not started I have not tried relaunching the software okay tell you what I will reboot I can't even download this file I'm just clicking this link and it's just not downloading come on Oh technology you're so awesome meanwhile my Chrome browser window here is just black it's not responding sorry excuse me lordy come on let's go I swear it's like sometimes I feel magic like magic like you know my family will call me it would be like well it's not working and I'll sit down I'll like touch it and it just like works perfectly and I'm like okay like magic fingers and then like the other 90% of the time I feel like something's working perfectly and all I have to do is walk into the same room as it and it breaks the new creator studio for a YouTube if anyone was wondering it's abominable it doesn't even have a live streaming tab in it yet and they're telling us that what is this BIOS is updating LED firmware that is a that is a low priority right now very low priority what was I even talking about right right right yeah they told us at the creator summit that they are rolling the new creator studio out to everyone this year and I'm kind of looking at it going you guys have already had this in beta for about eight months and based on the progress you've made so far another eight months so I'm really worried because there's a ton of functions that just do not work all right check Colton's Twitter the business team has a machete yes I I am actually aware of Colton's machete he walked up behind me when I was in the bathroom doing my hair I do do my hair just cuz I don't do a good job doesn't mean I don't try and he's like holding this thing behind me he's like hey check out what John Doe got me and I'm like I can't quite see cuz I have my arms up like this and he's right behind me I'm like machete like yeah why you have a machete at work I thought maybe it was my day it wasn't it was all good and now we are not getting an internet connection why why do you hate me why do you hate me why are no Wi-Fi networks found I know there are Wi-Fi networks I will disable the network connection and I will re-enable it yes I am familiar with that particular troubleshooting step Jakob Andrew says ready for the not live conspiracy theories yeah me too they're hilarious trust me guys if we were pre recording this this is not how it would go down okay so there's good news my prime95 download is working so we're just gonna pop into our downloads folder hope that there's nothing incriminating in there and extract this bad boy to a desktop folder and then hopefully we're gonna see a hundred percent CPU usage now and also hopefully where's this folder I just created there it is hopefully we're also going to be back down to about 30 degrees so that we know we're at sort of a good baseline starting point temperature because if we don't start at our idle temperature then our load temperature won't necessarily be representative all right let's open this puppy up I just stress testing it's all good thirty-six torture test threads smallest FFT why don't we just do small FFT let's do that we're a die to go come on baby no no and computer sensors all right cool so our CPU is at Oh balls wait what CPU is at forty degrees well that's weird doing something in the background now that seems a little hot I mean I guess it is an eighteen court oh great it's we're looking at about 8% twelve ten percent utilization in the background what is even what are even happening right now SVC host yeah okay so this was why I didn't really want to plug in the internet because I think it's just doing Windows modules installer junk Microsoft content updates that kind of thing in the background I really wish there was just like a clean okay well all we can do now is go forward so we're gonna start our small FFT test and then we're just gonna have to wait we're gonna have to wait for it to reach our saturation point so here we go Wow I don't think I've ever watched prime95 lunch that many workers before I haven't used it in a long time alright you have got to be kidding me why is it at 85% utilization okay I rebooted it Jake it shouldn't be set to low power mode and that shouldn't affect it yeah I will check but I sincerely doubt it additional power settings here we go no we're on balanced yeah I don't know that there is a high performance on desktop it's certainly not that oh there we go okay whatever balance should be fine it shouldn't matter processor power management okay assistant maximum processor state is a hundred percent why no no it's set two hundred percent already it's fine you don't have to do that no I didn't unbalance it's set to a hundred percent just it's fine there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that okay well alright I guess we just don't really have much of a choice here I don't know I don't know what it's doing two different stress tests are like yep eighty-seven percent that's all you get the good news is that CPU package power consumption is actually pretty consistent at around 140 to 145 hundred and fifty watts so as long as it's running the same it doesn't really matter so I guess we are just gonna roll with it let's go ahead and unbox our banggood.com water cooling kit this is the kind of thing that you just cannot predict will go wrong do you want me to lower this at Oh Brandon or is it all good don't lower it Oh should I put it back I will put it back alright cool so I actually don't know what's in these unmarked boxes I can take some guesses this is probably a reservoir that's weird it looks like it comes with three fans even though it's a dual radiator why don't we start with that start with the most obvious thing so any water cooling kits all in one or or custom is going to come with some a few fundamental parts one is our radiator so this is what allows you to take the thermal energy that it's absorbed by the water from your CPU and dissipate it to the surrounding air because that's right folks at the end of the day fundamentally everything is air cooling unless it's phase change cooling in which case eventually it's air cooling now something I'm sort of curious about is what materials this radiator is made of so you can see we've got a pretty dense thin arrangement here so this will probably perform its best with sort of more pressure optimized fans like higher speed fans and there's a couple other noteworthy things about this design so one is that unlike a lot of higher-end radiators these days one of the fluid tubes is actually right under these these fan screw holes so this was a bit of a design flaw of older radiators and it was quite common for people to accidentally screw their fans in too tight and puncture the tubes with that said what they've done to combat that is they put a really large gap in here so it would actually be kind of hard to bung that up so I'm not going to take off a ton of marks here what I would take a ton of marks off for is if this thing is not made of brass brass or copper and you're just gonna resort to just using a flashlight to look in here and oh that's rough ya know so you guys aren't gonna get a great look at this I don't think can you get right down the barrel of that thing probably not Brandon right can you see it without my phone getting in the way right can you pull it off the point is there's no there's no copper colour in there there's no brass colour this is clearly an aluminum radiator I was pretty sure just picking it up like it's super crazy light but yeah so at the very least what I would recommend if you have an aluminum radiator and if we have any copper components in here is using some kind of anti corrosive additive and I shouldn't have really used the word recommend because I don't recommend that that's a bad idea mixing metals is a super super rotten time and you shouldn't do it sorry alright so there you go there's our radiator mounting hardware next up oh wow so I guess I'm making an assumption here that these are actually real but if they are then hey it ships with deep cool fans and wow these actually might even be LED fans so this thing should look pretty cool if nothing else I was expecting like no name yet loon fans or something like that but no this seems to be surprisingly decent really quiet I'm actually not sure though if that particular header on the motherboard is being speed controlled right now and I have no molex harnesses plugged into this motherboard right now so I can't I can't double check that but I was allowing Corsair to use their own management we were just gonna kind of see how loud it gets for better or for worse anyway so there you go it'll be an apples to apples comparison or it'll be a comparison anyway alright let's see what's in our next box actually let's do this one first cuz yeah I'm pretty sure it's another one there you go this one's the same box as the fans but seems to have something else inside oh okay so this seems to be kind of an oddball size of tubing it doesn't look like quarter inch tubing it looks a little bit bigger but it's certainly not 3/8 I think I borrowed a tape measure from James the other day hey James ah hey James stride hey Alex can you throw something at James cool thank you you know I thought you were gonna actually throw it that's gonna be like well Brandon at least make sure you catch this up can I borrow your tape measure you don't have it anymore oh he put it away alright yeah I actually don't care that much anyway so we got about 6 feet of tubing that should be enough for our purposes today here's where things I think are gonna get really interesting here is our block so we've actually had some pretty good experiences with just like cheap blocks off these Chinese marketplace sites before oh whoa sorry just to finish that thought so I'm expecting that these might actually perform reasonably decently one concern that I had immediately is that they are copper blocks so while it's a lot better to have the copper be you know downstream of the aluminum radiator than what Swift tech did with the Apogee GTX way back in the day where they had a copper base with an aluminum block like right physically attached to it this is still not a recommended configuration so yeah what's interesting here though is that they've got a CPU block so that's where you got your your fittings sticking at the top like this but they've also included a GPU block so these used to be all the rage back I don't know 10 12 years ago before full cover blocks got I wouldn't say more affordable because they didn't people just started accepting that if you wanted to water cool your graphics card you needed a full cover block because because video cards got so many other components on them over that sort of few years in there that needed cooling aside from the GPU that by the time you bottle actually this is great I have examples of them so by the time you bought a whole whack of Swift tech mc4 teens like little heat sinks or to cover your ram modules or MC 21s so these are little heat sinks to to cool your VRMs by the time you did all of this and then you still needed to point a fan at it you were spending a bunch of additional money and you weren't getting one of the key benefits of water cooling which is quiet you're trying to eliminate fans not not add them so people kind of abandon these you still can you them but just note that you'd probably want to get like a little bracket or something to point a fan like a pretty strong one probably not something as as quiet as this directly your GPU to make sure that you're getting out of cook cooling and I'd also recommend some little heat sinks so we're not going to install this today also partly because it wouldn't then be an apples-to-apples comparison against our a IO which does not have a GPU in the loop so in terms of the construction here it's pretty pretty straightforward you've got a standard sort of thickness copper base comes with a pre applied protective cover it's hard to evaluate flatness like this I would go ahead and say that it's not incredibly flat though so if you can see any distortion in the reflection of something off of it that's where you'll you'll see if it has any kind of bowing to it with that said again about ten years ago it became standard practice to slightly bow out the center of the block so once you tighten it down it actually flattens onto a flat IHS but I really I doubt they've put that much consideration into this pen again maybe I'm just not giving them enough credit mounting hardware wise here's some thermal compound we're not gonna use this we're good wait what oh okay no there is some in there is this a paper package for it though wow I've never seen that before oh we're not gonna use that we're gonna use the same thermal pad that we're using for the other cooler just for for the sake of fairness I would say though that that's going to be an advantage for the Corsair cooler because I sincerely doubt that this stuff performs as well as the probably Tier one thermal paste that of course there would be using pre applied to their coolers alright so there's our cpu block and mount this is a very rudimentary mounting system this might take me a little while what else we got here this way is a fair bit this has got to be the pump and it is this is another thing that I would consider to be a likely advantage for the Corsairs of the world this pump is is is off-brand even for a Chinese pump like it doesn't have like you know chang hong electronics on here I think Chang Hong actually makes TVs but don't worry about that minor details like it has no markings on it whatsoever just a molex lead with some basics leaving on it sticking out of the back and then they've gone ahead and they've put a plexi top on it so it looks like whoever's making this kit is just sourcing these like these pumps and then they've they've gone ahead like I wonder if it's the same it'd be hard to tell just looking at the acrylic yeah you wouldn't really be able to tell anything from that but I'd have no reason to believe that this is made in a different place either so they've both got the same kind of markings around the outside here kind of like streaky hard to say very hard to say all right last part hopefully this is as fun for you guys as it is for me I'm actually having a blast right now so this as I predicted is our reservoir so for those just tuning in what's remarkable about this kit is that it's just $80 so that's actually cheaper then the dual 120 millimeter AIO liquid cooler that i have back here and price competitive with something like a high-end air cooler from Noctua except that it is for better or for worse fully custom water cooling now this is where a surprising amount of the cost of water cooling actually is in the fittings and as fittings go as fittings go these are actually like pretty nice so they're g1 quarter standard standard threading they've got recessed o-rings so you can't accidentally over tighten them they've got there they've got a hex portion to them here so you can tighten them with a ring if you want and they are nickel coated or nickel-plated both on the outside and the inside like this is actually these are these are decent fittings I was half expecting them to be made of aluminum because the radiator was made of aluminum but uh but they're not also curious is that they appear to have included more of them than we actually need oh right because I'm not installing the GPU so no I don't believe I do actually have extras now this I don't really get so that's a plug for our reservoir right there and then this one right here I have yet to determine the purpose of also included these have kind of gone out of fashion but they are effective I forget what these are called but these are an older style of tubing clamp right there what are these called again can't remember primo chill did some of really nice ones way back in the day that was before they did those disastrous plastic fittings oh the last thing included in the kit TBT funnel look at that that's a Linus hand for scale come on be kidding me all right so this is where my plug goes actually oh I hadn't really talked about the reservoir so this is probably I would say the most standout a well constructed piece of this entire kit this is crystal-clear spring clamp thank you it's crystal clear these are nice like feel like really nice rubber o-rings compared to the ones on the fittings that are kind of ear more your more basic they're not as they're not as squishy not as malleable like these are really nice it threads in and out like just really well the machine markings are really minor compared to the rest of the stuff like this is this is actually a perfectly nice rate reservoir the one deficiency in its construction here is that it doesn't have like a proper baffled prevent air from being recirculated in the loop but that said it's tall enough that it shouldn't be a huge issue and it does at least have this little piece of tubing right here that will bring the bubbles up away from the from the outlet here so we'll we'll do our best with it it should be okay but it is not ideal so I'm gonna start fitting things up this really is the main drawback of custom water cooling especially once you get the price the same that it's more work to build it up so Oh are we ready actually come on over here Brendan are we ready to get our results from our i/o yet this has been running for oh shoot it doesn't tell me how long it's been running for because oh man okay how am I gonna figure this out what do these lines denote are they like 15 second lines we'll find out okay they're like seven second lines oh crap actually know what we're getting pretty close yeah we have mostly reached equilibrium here anyway so you can really see this we're clearly approaching an asymptote so if we were to say 53 54 degrees I don't think anyone's going to begrudge us that anyway we've got a little bit more time because I've got some boat set that's 17 minutes and I've been talking for that long holy smokes I just talk and talk and talk don't I Luke was right I was one of his mean things that he said about me in the roast is that I just never shut up I was like well alright fair enough ah I think Oh Oh what okay I'm having a hard time figuring out what their plan was for the fittings here so this needs to go here ooh that does not thread in nicely let's try a different one see if that's any better they do they did not do a great job of tapping these threads and I would know a not great job of tapping threads I'm something of an expert uh oh shoot yeah you can actually see there's a real screw up there well I was saving this for for later to talk about our sponsor for today's video the iFixit essential electronics toolkit but I actually need it right now pop this open I can use this one of their pokey tools so I'm gonna see if I can kind of get that excess junk out of there with a spudger and if that clears it up a bit so you can see that now right can you see the extra bit there I need to do this upside down so that if it falls it falls out all right let's see if cleaning up that thread helped No let's try the other one no these are just hey Jake can I ask a favor can you grab a wrench yeah I think I'm gonna need to wrench this in aa pliers pliers would not be ideal now I would really like a wrench just one of the adjustable ones is fine so you can see here my o-ring is making contact but just barely so this is already a reason that I would suggest for most people if you're going to do a custom loop going with high quality components from known manufacturers like your swift tags and ek s and alpha cools of the world because you are far less likely to find a random issue like this where it just frankly wasn't Q seed like I am NOT only running up against kind of rough threading here I feel like I'm bottoming out which don't tune out now but could be a showstopper for us just crank it but then we might crack the plexi on the top so in the meantime while we wait for Jake we can go ahead and mount our fans to our radiator here so I'm gonna go with exactly the same configuration that I did for the Corsair rad thank you Jack ooh I appreciate that wrench all right let's do our best here I will be gentle I'm always gentle Jake I'm like a gentle giant except I'm not a giant so that should tell you how gentle I am going with that oh man these are yeah like I'm clearly bottoming out but I did manage to get about another third of a turn out of them and it seems like I've got okay contact there should we bring in our our engineering consultant hey Alex come give me your expert opinion over here here do you think this is gonna leak no what do you mean nope no no the fittings like yeah like around the o-rings do those look sufficiently mush to you here's a not installed one for context should we have the shot to hell handy when we're testing all right thank you yeah I guess if that's if that's the goal then I guess mission accomplished um well I don't think that's really the problem I think it's actually the machining that they did for this this like expansion thing here we might actually even be right up against the copper fence how thick is no okay that's weird we're up against something I couldn't yeah we could run it out through there I couldn't wait oh yeah don't worry don't worry about it all right carry carry on whatever you were doing so something important just tell me it's important it's okay okay he was trying to who's trying to think of whether it was under embargo or not a lot of the stuff we do like we we feel like oh yeah we should do like a tweet about this and then we look at it more like oh yeah no we're not allowed to talk about that until the NDA is up it's frustrating because we'd love to just tell you guys about stuff as soon as it comes across our desks but it's just not always that simple because you break enough embargoes and companies stop sending you stuff now to be clear no one we work with has like consequences for a negative review or anything like that it's just that an embargo has a clear and appreciable and demonstrably damage that it does to a company if you break it because like it might give their competitors insight into their product launch that they can then use to counteract it so like you know someone could make the argument that us breaking the embargo on pricing for something you know cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars and sales or something like that so you gotta be really careful around that type of stuff all right so there's a radiator and I think we're actually pretty much ready right here check this out we've settled in so our room temperature right now is 23 degrees Celsius I know because I set it to that right before we started and we've settled in at 52 degrees running at 2.25 gigahertz this seems to be like a power throttling thing of some sort I think that's what's going on I think there must be some kind of bio setting or something anyway if we change nothing then at least we have a fixed load and we ended up with 53 degrees Celsius so we can go ahead and shut down our system and we can start installing our weirdo banggood.com one so this I still don't really understand if I was to use this on the pump and then maybe hook it straight into the reservoir like maybe that was the idea behind it but then the funny thing about that is now if you look at this so I've got all my fittings installed Here I am now one fitting short if I actually did want to use the GPU or if I didn't use this weird connector one then I am too fitting short and I just didn't get fittings for my GPU so I think they might have bugged this up in more ways than one anyway these threaded in just fine so this is all good let's go ahead and tighten these on just in case what I say for at 43 degrees right take 43 degrees right for the temps 53 thank you thank you now 44 you didn't seem right alright let's head over to the other side of the table here and let's get this thing installed why is this thing still on I turned you off now it's off alright awesome I'm expecting this to be a bit of a process I don't remember the last time I live-streamed building a water cooling loop from scratch but if I've ever done that before it probably wasn't a great time so I'm gonna go as quickly as I can here to make sure that I'm valuing your guys's time but I also don't want to end up with a leak on my hands or more importantly on my motherboards so I'm gonna try and also be somewhat careful so first things first you come on over here Brent and I'll come around this side of the table so you can get a pretty decent look at what we're doing so first things first we're gonna go ahead and mount our CPU block now Corsair one of the things that they do so well like these AIO kits absolutely have a value is they have a really good mounting mechanisms just for simple nuts here especially on LGA 2066 and whatever the other one is bloody pins does this socket have this 2066 right are we still on 2066 pins 79 80 XC heck yeah alright my brain hasn't completely fallen apart yeah that's good so just so you guys know I'm using one of these IC thermal pads so this was less about that they're the best performance in the world because they're not quite there just our clothes and more about that I wanted easily reproducible results so I didn't want a slate I only get one shot at this because we're doing it live so I didn't want a slight smear in the compound or something like that to affect our results all right so we're gonna talk the way our Corsair radiator so in terms of noise level Corsair does such a good job of managing thermals and noise so it was 53 degrees and it was sort of a low there's a low hum this one I'm actually expecting to be pretty similar just based on what I saw from plugging in the fans so I'm happy about that because I think in terms of noise level it's gonna be pretty comparable with that said I don't think the performance of these fans is going to be anywhere near Corsairs so this is their H 100 I Pro so it comes with their maglev fans which are just spectacular fans the last I'm not gonna say forever but they will last a very long time because the bearing doesn't even make any contact it's pretty pretty sick technology only problem is this cost like twice as much so these might be kind of flimsy ER things but there's a pretty low bar in terms of how they have to perform in order to do better and this block who knows might have an advantage so come on in here Brandon we're gonna go ahead and oh wow did not think of this uh-oh so this block has the whole alignment for LGA 2066 so you can see it's got a big enough plate which is good that means we're not completely sunk yet but it doesn't have the mounting adaptor that you need to screw into the built-in mount for LGA 2066 it's a bolt through so no I'm not going to so we're gonna have to improvise a little here now I do have an idea if these screws happen to be threaded the same as the motherboard mount maybe we can put them in from the top maybe that's their intent maybe if they'd included a manual I would know these things for sure power supply jumper no it's fine I'm good we're going we're going full Yolo Jake this there's no there's no yeah I got paper towel yeah don't worry okay not quite full Yolo okay so good news yes these screws do thread in so you can see that they go in but you can see we've got a lot of extra space here and I don't know if the included Springs are quite enough Martha Sean I guess so we're gonna go ahead and load this up with a plastic washer a spring and another plastic washer I don't think that's gonna be enough I put that in yep that's clearly pretty loose now the thing is some of these motherboards oh I don't know at least some of them oh okay now we're getting into pretty risky territory here some of these motherboards actually have like just a plastic thing in between and you can you can poke like a through-hole mount through it without damaging the PCB of the motherboard but the thing is I don't really have a way to find out without just trying it so I guess that's what we're going to do oh yeah so you can actually hopefully see here there's actually a hole in the PCB and it's just like a plastic stopper there so if we just kind of jam this in here it's possible that we'll be able to bolt it through from the bottom oh oh oh heck yeah I really wish I had a drill right now cuz this is gonna take a little while but I think we're in all right so stupid so we're gonna go ahead and throw a plastic washer on here that's really important because we don't want the metal head of the screw to be right up against the back of the PCB of your motherboard here and we're gonna go ahead and screw this puppy in yes I will reposition my thermal pad let's Jake I'm not the one who forgot to take off a protective cover yesterday hey if you guys follow us on twitter that was Jake who forgot to take the cover off the bottom of a CPU lock you know what though I can't give him too much heat about it though because four years four years I could say with a straight face I've never done that in all my years of building computers I have never forgotten to take the protective cover off the bottom of the heat sink or a CPU block and then I don't remember when it was exactly that's been about a year ago I like finally did it and I didn't even realize it until I was like taking the system apart because it wasn't a system that I was using for thermal benchmarks or anything like that and it was a relatively low power one like was LGA 1150 something and it was a really good cooler so it actually was like good enough that the CPU wasn't thermal throttling or anything it just obviously wasn't running as cool as it could have if I didn't have a piece of plastic in between the I think it was a water block in between the block and what's that yeah you figured it out right away all right well good for you I mean you were doing thermal testing on the system it's actually a really cool system that he's working on shoot I'm letting myself get distracted here and I'm making mistakes this is how these things happen you know when you're trying to film a video I forgot to put my plastic washer on this one and as I said before that would be an extraordinarily bad time now there's actually a good chance that would be fine but I'm not going to roll that die today die being the key word as long as there's no traces actually right around there then all you're doing is you're just mashing some like you know copper and fiberglass jump together like it doesn't really matter but if there is a trace nearby and you short it or you crack it then your board probably won't work unless it's like a portal or something and even then it might not work or it might have like really weird behavior that it takes two years to figure out oh that was the problem all along I guess I should have broken my stuff okay well I did not anticipate how long this would take my bad everyone oh I guess I could read some super chats if they were over here hey Jake can I can I trouble you to retrieve for me my laptop could you put it right there on the keyboard and maybe I could read super chats while I do this cool okay all the ones I'm looking at now are just dollar amounts so Thank You wolf star and 1984 lab rat and I can't really read this very well and and see a crag or whatever that is drew still plays would you recommend the rads alone from bang good I would recommend any radiator that is not made of aluminum honestly I mean the thing with radiators is that the best way to get better performance out of a water cooling loop okay and this is Jamo just my opinion because there are definitely characteristics of radiators that make one perform better than another one but the best way to get more performance out of radiators my perspective is to add more of them some of them will have lower pressure drop so you can put more things in a loop and without compromising your flow rate some of them will perform better with particular fans or with other fans but to me radiators have kind of always been kind of like splitting hairs and if you really want more performance out of your loop just throw another one in get a bigger Tower throw in another red the one thing I would watch out for is to make sure that they're not made of aluminum I never recommend an aluminum radiator it's there's no benefit you only save like a few bucks compared to a a brass radiator and for what for the risk of corrosion for the risk of potentially destroying your whole loop like I don't think it's an unreasonable additional cost to spend a little bit more on your rad in the first place shoot there was something I was gonna say right I just want to be I just want to be very clear though sorry it takes actually a fair bit of pressure on the bottom here to punch through these stupid plastic things I'm not saying that you can't have any aluminum in your radiator I'm just saying that it can't be anywhere that contacts the water so a lot of radiators use aluminum for the little fins that go in between the water tubes that's fine aluminum's dissipative characteristics are actually excellent so using aluminum air is just fine and dandy it's just the rest of it needs to be brass which is similar enough to copper that you don't end up with a ton of galvanic corrosion or it needs to be copper copper radiators are actually quite rare the most common material is a brass core with or like brass end tanks with aluminum fins alright so a couple false starts there on these through-hole mounting screws but we are finally in and hopefully this melts alright okay on the bench there we are alright it's stuck um you you've got to be kidding me laughs there we go okay this was kind of jamming it in there all right so we're gonna reposition our thermal pad here can you see that okay Brennen you want me to lower this table okay cool I'm gonna throw that on there and theoretically this is now as simple as throwing one of our washers here now we don't actually don't technically need this washer here it's actually for the other side of the board where you put the nut but hey it's on there now so I guess we'll protect our hold-down plate from getting scratched that's the only possible benefit of what I'm doing right now it will also actually increase the mounting tension a little bit but probably not an appreciable amount wait are these not screwing on wait what is it oh that's this one oh I was like I took these nuts off these bolts how is this not going on not fair not fair PC gods the PC gods they are a harsh and cruel mistress all right so I'm gonna go down until I don't know the thumb nut is kind of a little lower than flush with the the bullet there all right we're gonna call that on there pretty good now we just need to plumb up the rest of our loop hey Jake could I get a pair of scissors sorry I really did intend to prepare for this stream but you know me thank you have you ever took an ax look taking a look at the master air gee 100 M it looks like an arc reactor from Ironman I have it and I get great temps honestly we kind of did away with with case reviews a little while back just because before sorry I know I have water wait where'd it go I filled up my orange water bottle well if you don't mind finding my orange water bottle that would be swell I don't think it's in here it might be over by the sink over there I was just gonna use tap water because like realistically I'm not leaving this set up for where was I going yeah we kind of did away with case reviews a while back just because there wasn't a whole there's not a whole lot you can do to eliminate variables on a case in terms of testing its performance like you can try but you're always going to end up with like you know what's the right answer do you fill every fan slot or do you run every case with the same number of fans you know how do you make concessions in some cases for you know more X more out for like ones that are designed for compact builds versus ones that are designed for bigger ones do you hold them all to the same standard and just report the temps and and the acoustics how do you measure the acoustics of a case like there were a lot of questions that we could just never find good answers for and if you're just going to evaluate the aesthetics and the ease of building in them honestly I kind of found the video we did recently which was kind of a live stream like this one of just building in a case I found that was probably the best way for me to tackle it but that won't include kind of detailed thermal analysis or anything like that it's just a quick build okay this is not working I cannot get this over the barbed ow I wish I had pliers right now sucks like digging into my fingers yes yes I know you're supposed to use pliers I was hoping to do with my hands because I don't have pliers I give up we're just gonna roll without them no I'm good I mean honestly that's enough of a bulge I'm not concerned that it'll leak to be clear I would never install it long-term like this because it will leak eventually these these tubing's tend to kind of stiffen up over time and when they're kind of held like this that becomes their new home and then they can easily kind of stretch a little bit a little bit more or the water can can slip past them but when they're still in there kind of fresh tight state like this and you stretch them over something and so they're not really a concern I'm far more worried about this o-ring here alright so that's on there there's our rad now we just need our reservoir which does actually have a mount that comes with this thing but we're not gonna bother with that we're just gonna maybe can I pull it no okay um I was actually kind of hoping to just find something that I could strap it to oh oh yes this is a perfect opportunity to plug the LTTE cable tie get a close up there Brennen LTTE logo LTT store comm we've got that there we've also got the Linus tech tips water bottle our next shipment is coming I think in 2 or 3 weeks something like that really excited for those those have been an absolute smash hit like we don't actually sell a ton of merch I'm not saying our audience is a bunch of cheapskates I'm just saying that they say that on YouTube you tend to connect with people who are kind of like you that's sort of the value of YouTube and I'm a big cheapskate we don't sell a lot of merch I'll say this I'll say that much but the water bottle has been just a smash hit because it looks really cool it's got like functionality that matters it's you know vacuum-sealed long that kind of cool stuff yeah so I'm excited to get more of those oh man trust me this is a high quality cable type that's not actually the issue I just didn't have it tight enough there we go my yeah I did I did thank you okay so there's my res let's go ahead and cut a little bit of tubing to go between our our pump and our reservoir here just like a little little baby one like that Shoop oh that was not a clean cut that's bad especially because I'm not putting clamps on this I don't want to leave any danglies like that so I'm just gonna do a better job one key when you're cutting tubing if you don't have a proper tubing cutters to roll it as you're cutting it that we actually do get a pretty clean cut yay Linus Pro soft water cooling tips no one cares about those anymore because it's all about hardline now but whatever all right now where do I need to go next so I'm gonna go out - sure let's go - here in the notes there easy peasy just so you guys know I'm not going to the radiator first because I believe that the going to the radiator first affects the CPU temps in some meaningful way actually had a bit of a debate with fusty from gamers Nexus about whether the loop order matters he was like oh should we go to the CPU first or the GPU first which one are we trying to overclock harder and I was like what are you talking about and he was like yeah the loop order matters and and I was like I really don't think so and I was like look do I need to make a video proving you wrong and he's like bring it on be my guest so I'm actually kind of considering making a video about whether loop order matters now that I've said this though he's probably gonna go ahead and make the video we'll see we'll see we'll see maybe he won't maybe he won't love Steve love Steve we had a really good time when he was up here for the roast did a couple videos together go check out his channel it's gamers Nexus he did a couple videos while he was here one kind of profiling us and how we make our videos what was what was the other one he did Jake do you remember what the other one was the what sorry yeah oh yeah he did a tour of our office that actually includes some information that had never never been seen before we lost in that up there in his drops minute there we go okay so I just need another one more tubing right here this is oh this is kind of an awkward tubing run anyway I love Steve but water cooling is something I do actually know a fair bit about and so I was kind of thinking maybe I'll maybe I'll make that video but maybe I'll be wrong so maybe I just shouldn't make the video no we should make it regardless because I'd want to know if I was wrong this is the stupidest funnel I think I have ever seen in my life look at this it's not even that much bigger like it doesn't increase the size of the target much at all I'm still I'm gonna use it I'm gonna use it because I paid for it but I'm not gonna like it I need to grab a molex molex cable here oh wow it's almost like I planned that and no no I didn't yeah you're not gonna see this I can barely see what I'm doing here I'm just gonna have to do it by feel boom he's that good folks okay well good luck everybody let's get some paper towel it's just speed let's be proactive you know I don't want to be reactive reactive is so 1995 proactive not amateur active you know pro right there pull that move right there I just really don't want to lose this board so rampage six extreme or whatever the heck it is really expensive board and Gary from Asus is a really nice guy but if I break another board and I'm like hey Gary actually it's not even me who breaks most of the boards around here to be very clear but if we break another board name a board he'll send it but I know he'll be like he'll be making comments you know comments you like those guys okay now in fairness most of the boards break because we're doing things that shouldn't be done so you guys don't have to this is not gonna work like look at look at this Pinner little this is just stupid okay it actually works surprisingly well Jake because I'm using the funnel because I paid for it he asked why I don't just take the top off the res did you pay for this funnel didn't think so so you don't have to use it but I did I actually am totally going to keep that funnel because I used to have a little metal funnel that I kept in here that was really handy whenever you're like desperate and it's better than nothing and I lost it and so yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna put it in my little bag of tricks here all right ah so that's it we're ready for our power cycle now let's go ahead and throw our graphics card back on here I am really hoping for the best here I would hate for you guys to have invested like half an hour into this video or however long sorry we've been in streaming for an hour wait what what time is it it's too okay well I would hate for you guys to have invested two hours and also me having invested two hours only to find out that it doesn't work a one-hour whatever who's keeping track okay clearly not me oh you okay oh yes yes thank you okay um well come on come on in Brandon if it blows up you don't want to miss it right you don't want to get the camera wet you're not gonna get the camera wet geez hey okay all right now we're gonna do another round of filling now one thing that sort of blows is that this round of testing will inherently take longer because of our reservoir there's far more water in our loop this time so it will take longer to reach equilibrium so I'm gonna have to figure out how to stall you guys for at least 20 minutes while we wait for it to warm up you know what we should have done Oh Jake you know what we should have done we should have warmed up the water so we wouldn't have to wait so long oh I've already mostly filled it okay put hot water and the rest of this if you don't mind Jake I want hot water in the rest of that container like empty it and then put in the hottest water you can it's fine no it's a fine idea don't worry it just means we'll reach equilibrium faster that's all dang it that's not gonna be a lot of hot water I like this reservoir actually does a reasonable job of not sucking up too many of the big bubbles once it kind of settles in it'll be better to and this pumps not bad definitely noticeably louder than the one included with Corsairs kit but it also moves the water pretty pretty well so we can't quite evaluate it until we put it for one thing it's a vibration deadening pad under it and for another until we wait for the bubbles to work their way out of the loop this solution is going to be louder though stop James you want that phone I'm gonna have to change the pin for you or actually here just enroll a fingerprint a pin would be easier alright okay one moment please all right yeah I'm live stream do you mind actually pointing away because I don't want anyone was like a real pin yeah point at James you ever point at the computer alright let seems like a pretty good idea hey you are sir Boop oh wow that actually quieted right down once it stopped sucking up so many bubbles now it still does have a bit of an like here if I get my mic right next to it you have got to be kidding me thank you Dave yeah that would be really unfortunate because this would SuperDuper be for nothing all of it we'd have to like we'd have to redo the video like just do it as a standard upload sorry guys lol okay that made no difference whatsoever I shouldn't have bothered with that better well so bad just yeah but 20 this Microsoft this is what you do this is what you cause 20,000 people are waiting for you right now twenty thousand a hundred I'm already gone cuz they're like no I wanna deal with this that's what you do let's have a look at some brijesh send a thousand ringgit i don't know how much that is says love from India Thank You brijesh no idea what a thousand ringgit is but I appreciate it Joshua Smith Pat Jen Corelli drupe FPV Kenny says Sweden sends its love to Anthony Anthony Sweden sends its love courtesy of Kenny Ronald says just ordered a lynx level four from digital storm cool story xanthus says isn't jake's testbench set up for water cooling ah not for a while I don't think it is right now okay wait what's going on here hold on a minute what's going on is this doing things right now oh yes oh wow it's leaking pretty good oh man okay okay so yeah it actually bottoms out and you can see here we've got we've got water pooled around the the bottom of the fittings it's actually only this one right here this one seems to have held up so this is a high-risk maneuver but to say that run and see there I'm gonna grab the wrench and I'm gonna see if we can give her just a a little more here so I'm gonna pull this red key out first okay let's give her a little more arrghh okay okay where's my paper towel weird my paper towel at so I'm just gonna take this kind of soaked one here and top up the rest of it I'm gonna throw this new one in here what could go wrong that is a serious design flaw every once in a while you encounter a product and you go did anyone ever try this before putting it in a box and shipping it to a customer and I don't mean this particular unit the one I'm holding right now I mean this product the Antec dark flea DF 85 was a great example of that it had these just astonishingly stupid like modular hard drive cages that basically got in the way of any modern high end GPU at the time and then it had these just incredibly dumb like brackets that sat in front of the five and a quarter inch optical base that just served no purpose at all so because they were just like kind of a bar you could press the button on your on your DVD Drive and it would like try to open and it would jam up against the thing but there was no mechanism for it to automatically open so they were just you could still see your optical drives so they didn't stealth them they were just in the way and there was no clean way to remove them other than just like breaking them off and leaving like a nub in there like it was just just an incredibly terrible case I was right around the time that an tech went from the king of PC cases to basically irrelevant over a span of like a few years yeah yeah all right cool we're back up we are not leaking anymore that was a terrible solution though and we're gonna go ahead and fire up our prime95 here so first we can take a look at our idle temps although it should be noted that these aren't that representative necessarily because the Corsair cooler had been running for about five to eight minutes before we fired up the camera okay so we're sitting at 33 degrees oh well that doesn't that doesn't really bode well okay I mean this is what the same thermal compound so if it doesn't manage to yeah Wow yeah there you go 33 34 degrees okay slow it degrees oh all right well we can really do is hit it now small FFT boom there it goes show me that 86 huh thank goodness oh I've never been so happy to see a weird issue not fixed 86 87 % CPU utilization so for better for worse our test is running the same as it did last time now Jake where'd we settle in 53 degrees all right so I should probably read some super chats while we wait to see if if our banggood.com full-custom water will actually no I'm gonna do a quick recap for you guys so what we've got on the bench now is our $80.00 water cooling kit from banggood.com because as we mentioned in our recent video about AIO water coolers versus high-end air coolers and AIO might cost more look cooler but it doesn't necessarily deliver better performance or quieter operation compared to a really good air cooler what we acknowledged in that video however is that fully custom water cooling will outperform either of those if it's implemented correctly so today's objective was to find out if a cheap custom water cooling kit like this $80 one from banggood.com qualifies as fully custom water cooling or if it just plain doesn't cut the mustard we're getting pretty close to our conclusion guys ooh this is gonna be a bit of a shocker but I'm gonna go ahead and just go through a couple of these have you tried removing the C Drive thanks Eric no I haven't smokey says I bet you have casual Friday enabled no I always look like this biking with panda looks like it scratches at level one with deeper grooves at level two if you know what I'm saying I know what you're saying I Castillo says what do you guys do with all the extra tech lying around do you ever resell it or donate it to schools believe it or not we hold on to the vast majority of it because you never know when you're gonna need to compare this year's high-end graphics card against to last year's high-end graphics card like if we'd thrown away all of our 10 Series GPUs then when Anthony was trying to do his piece that's coming really soon on running r-tx on 10 Series we like might not have had one handy with that said we are looking to purge some stuff over the next little bit we're trying to figure out how the accounting works for us to dump it on the ltte store so stay tuned for that we might do that hey over here says FAQ you Linus I read it smokey be 42 so subtly threatened it put a broken case on the desk I don't know what you're talking about Aleksey t says by the amount of technical problems you'd think it's a land show thank you for the 200 rubles I'll put that towards improving these bye cliff Candice does love this video idea the first five times you made it I'm sure this one will be just I have not done this exact video before Aliexpress water cooling did I do that you did that that was different though we bought all the custom parts this is a kit it's totally different I mean it's just random parts with no instructions so someone else bought random parts and sold it to us apparently the name on float plane is wrong did you fix that at any point all right I think it's a little late why is this guy hosting Anthony tech tip says Alex Lee all right thank you ladies and gentlemen I think we have a conclusion so that worked out pretty well where we didn't have to actually wait the whole 20-30 minutes come on in come on come on down Brandon Lee so here's our power consumption right there and the 140 150 watt range just as we were expecting same as last time and this is not good it's at 62 degrees already we've only been up for about five minutes the worst part and this is very Oh oops one moment please whoops um whoops okay look we all make mistakes especially when we're live-streaming let's go ahead and okay well that was definitely a demonstration of you know how water can absorb heat if I was really clever I would have been like aha I did it on purpose remember how I wanted to heat up the water so that we would reach equilibrium faster you know what I like that story I'm gonna stick with that yeah I know I totally forgot okay so these fans are on now so that's good yes they're blue let's go make sure we've got all the air bladder out of this as well while we're at it ooh that radiator is a hot boy whoa wow these fans really do not move a lot of air huh well that's really unfortunate because I'd say if this had better fans on it it would definitely be it would definitely be a closer contender anyway we're gonna we're gonna see how it how it turns out here but I wouldn't be surprised based on how little air these are moving if we actually don't end up cooling off that much the good news is we have time to read a few more Super chats from you kind folks where'd they go ah dr. Mobius says J's two cents already did a loop order video improved it doesn't matter yes in fact I might have done one at one point I don't know you make 4000 videos eventually you forget a couple of them but there are ways that we could demonstrate it scientifically that I'm sure Steve would appreciate and I don't know how Jay did it but if he just did it by like plumbing up a CPU and a GPU then plumbing up a GPU and a CPU the thermal sensors that he's working with are just simply not accurate enough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it makes no difference phonics says hello from cube coders tell John oh and Anthony we say hi we're happy to be working with you guys I actually didn't know we were working with them and I don't know who they are but I guess I will soon uh wild card says a live stream a trip to Home Hardware for pliers no the IRL category has enough nonsense live streams at this point we don't need to go to Home Hardware for pliers chaco the scholar says who benefits the most from liquid cooling intel or AMD like so many intel versus AMD questions the answer is just not that simple and afraid both AMD and Intel have products that will benefit more from water cooling and have products that will benefit less from water cooling something like a rise in 526 hundred probably doesn't benefit from water cooling pretty much at all you throw a decent air cooler on that thing and you're gonna overclock it as far as it'll go anyway Zen architectures overclocking is limited not by thermals in most cases but rather just by hard architectural limits it only clocks so high so Intel also has CPUs like for example a Core i5 they'd finally launched their 9 Series non-case cues but anything any way anything that's a non case cue if you can't overclock it as long as it's not running at like 100 degrees all the time because you installed it in a Mac it's not gonna it's not going to have any benefit because the CPU only goes faster when the clock speed goes faster but then again Intel an AMD also both have processors that definitely benefit from water cooling something like 32 core thread Ripper or Intel's 28 core Xeon w those are both going to benefit from water cooling even if not to go faster definitely just to run quieter Rahl Rahl asks why do I hate Star Trek I don't hate Star Trek did I did I ever indicate in some way I hate Star Trek Jake and I wasn't a Star Trek kid I was a Star Wars kid so the only thing that really ever made me mad about Star Trek was people being like oh cool you watching Star Trek and be like no it's not Star Trek because Star Wars is not the same to Star Trek but that's it I don't like hate Star Trek or anything I mean I'd probably have some unpopular positive views of Star Trek I really liked the reboot I know a lot of people didn't but I did so there you go reboot movies okay in my book I never watched Discovery I was I'm a lot older than you I was a next generation kid oh I haven't I don't know I don't have time to watch TV shows I've been busy playing actually I've been I've been busy playing like the best game that I've probably played in years lately if you like retro RPGs so if you were like No so they I mean they obviously localized it for Japan but no it was I believe it was a Western team working on it cross-code fantastic if you loved a games like Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy 6 Final Fantasy 7 Secret of Mana that series it's like it's like a retro kind of snaps generation sprite based RPG real-time combat very challenging combat challenging puzzles if you don't adjust the difficulty I didn't I was like determined to beat the stupid thing on the regular difficulty so it's got like these timed puzzles so you have to go through and do everything like perfectly as things that anyway I'm not gonna spoil anything about it but I mean really it's like I'd always kind of had it in the back of my mind that if I just if I ever had just like way too much money and no idea what to do with it I wanted to like resurrect that style of RPG where it's really not about the graphics it's not about the cinematic cutscenes there's no voice acting purely text-based just great musical score and a fantastic a gripping story and cross-code did an absolutely fantastic job of it I finally finished it last night and I put like it's like 60 hours into it so for how much that game costs I think it's like $15 or something like that on Steam I don't remember how much I paid it was probably less because I got it on like the Halloween sale or something but 20 bucks for 20 bucks it's fantastic you should just get it absolutely loved the combat system it never got boring if I had to criticize one thing about it I would say some of the dungeons dragged on a little bit and there's one point where you you you go to a place and you're kind of like I'm not really gonna have to do two of those dungeons in a row am i and then you do without like any story connective tissue in between them really so I think they could have paced it a little bit better but other than that I just thought it was absolutely fantastic 10 of 10 in my book best game I've played a long time if I'm being honest with myself if I don't allow myself to look through my nostalgia glasses it's probably better than Final Fantasy 6 but I would have to replay 6 in order to say that definitively I don't know the characters are just some of them in particular just fantastic absolutely lovable anyway the good news is I think we're done here so it's not as dramatic a loss but our banggood.com water cooling kit is officially worse than an AI ohh now to be clear this is an excellent AI oh but of course there has ones that are a lot less expensive that would also be like more price competitive and would easily be performance competitive with this this doesn't like absolutely trounced their other a iOS it's not like a 10 degree difference or anything like that and this is 4 degrees more so what that leaves us with is that this is custom water cooling but at a performance level that is just not better than high-end air or a decent AIO liquid cooler also it comes with some additional risks you've got a no-name pump you've got a block that was not tapped correctly for the threads that were included in the box and you've got an aluminum radiator which like I said having it physically away from the copper CPU block is a lot better than having them right next to each other but does pose entirely unnecessary risks in the long term so thank you very much guys for coming along for the journey and thank you too I fix it who sponsored this video with their essential electronics toolkit I forget exactly what the talking points are so what I'm going to do is just go through everything that's included with it it's got one of their fantastic basically indestructible pry tools it's got one of their sputters which I used earlier on in the stream to kind of pick at something which is exactly what that's for it's got 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Brandon is an absolute super trooper he has here you guys look this is what you're doing to him right now you guys look like it's fine but you better thank him that's all I'm saying this is what he's equipped with right now that's what you're making him hold for two hours two hours look at him look at his face look at his eyes you can't you can't see it you can't see it it doesn't matter it doesn't matter he's suffering that's my point I'm sorry Brandon I promise to never do this to you again except if it accidently happens like this all right we're going quick here I'll go as fast as I possibly can because we really do have other videos to shoot today it's 2:20 why am I doing this clearly lost my mind this is what this is what happens this is the will of the people this is how much we care okay Linus Media Group you guys want to know what's the variable here if I was willing to spend another $60 on fans because those ml's the holes are not cheap would this perform better I don't know but I will soon so what have we settle in it 56 57 okay so I'm not gonna stick around for the final result because I think it's gonna be a very small difference but I will stick around to see what direction we move in all right agreed everybody cool with that are they cool with that Jake I can't monitor the chat right now I'm busy doing this fan swap I wait for the stream delay cool cool all right we got this okay Brent's so everyone in chat thank you yes Brendan does rock and know his pain is not your joy Brandon is a good person and he doesn't deserve pain I should buy Brendan lunch you know what I'll tell you what I I will I'm gonna I'm gonna spend the next super chat on Brandon's lunch it doesn't actually work that way it will have to be money out of my own pocket technically because I don't really there's one for two bucks and one for five euros well okay there you go there you go Brandon ten bucks okay ten bucks towards your lunch today Brandon doesn't like mucho way to not way to not know your coworkers Jake wow what a millennial that's probably why he never goes for lunch with you Jake because you took him to Chipotle everyone knows Brandon doesn't like Chipotle Brandon never shuts up about not liking Chipotle the second anyone mentions to pollies like I don't like to pull away I don't want to pull a Chipotle is awesome fully eight ten out of ten endorsed to pull a no Brendon only gets ten bucks now they're just throwing it away lunch only cost so much there you go ten dollars for Brandon okay tell you what no no cuz ten dollars isn't really enough there you go okay fifteen dollars for Brandon stop dipping Brandon cuz I'm not giving him anymore it's not really the way this works like I can't I there's there's no tax write-off on this like hey that's post tax money I'll explain it to you guys when you're older but expensing things in a business is really important all right so these are running they're running off the same headers as the whatever whatever these are the deep cool fans that we had before and we're going to give this a minute there's definitely there's definitely or airflow coming through particularly out here around the edges I think we're getting a bit of a better seal with these because these deep cool ones have an even dumber round frame design no I'm it doesn't work that way okay guys it doesn't work that way yeah so here's the thing guys I do not expect this to make like an enormous difference yeah it's not immediately dropping like this is not a night and day difference and by the time you go when you spend this kind of money on new fans for your banggood.com loop you might have you might as well have just gotten a better block a better pump better radiator and put crappy fans on it like that's where you're getting most of the additional performance better rad better block so no sorry guys didn't work peace out see you again on the next Friday stream yes you can just leave me sitting here awkwardly or you can kill 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