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AMD A8-3850 APU Gaming Performance Comparison Linus Tech Tips

2011-07-29
so for this video I'm going to be taking the highest-performing of the highest performing the most extreme of the extra nom okay and actually this video is going to be all about onboard graphics because AMD has just released their new 830 850 as well as their a 630 something something well anyway that a 38 50 is the one that I'm having a look at is their new apu and AMD claims has onboard discreet level DirectX 11 graphics so we're going to take that and we're going to put it to the test against Intel's Core i3 2105 so this uses Intel HD 3000 graphics which is the higher end of the graphics on the Sandy Bridge processors so this has the same limbered graphics as the 2600 K in the 2500 K but it is a dual core lower end chip that actually is priced similarly to the a 38 50 now for a third point of comparison I'm also going to be taking our Radeon 66 70 and I'm going to be plugging it in in dual graphics mode this is the wrong motherboard but it's around here somewhere in dual graphics mode with the a8 3850 to see how much of a performance boost we can get by adding a discreet card in dual graphics mode which used to be called hybrid crossfire so I'm going to be running at 1280 by 720 with a variety of games the first one is dirt3 if you come in and have a closer look you'll probably see that it looks like crap because it's running at 720p with everything set to low but the reality of it is I want to get a reproducible results where I can actually show scaling between all of these different graphics solutions so I have to I have to have something reasonably playable or especially on games where I actually have to play through it's going to be very difficult to do consistent benchmarking runs so stay tuned for more and I'll be showing you these free solutions up against each other who pood Battlefield Bad Company 2 the game that looks like it was released like check to check out check that out check out that aliasing looks like it was released like eight years ago when you play it on onboard graphics say here's my fellow character such crappy textures but that's what I have to do to benchmark on board so here we go for Crysis 2 ironically the lowest graphics setting is high because they subscribe to the good better best even better than that system of doing things obviously DirectX 11 is off with the core i3 2105 because it does not support DirectX 11 so here we go Crysis 2 is the next in my list of oh I haven't even written it down yet Crysis 2 games to benchmark okay my benchmark runs finished in Crysis 2 but I just wanted to show you guys how utterly rubbish it looks with onboard graphics so here I'll zoom in as far as I can so you guys can kind of see what I'm talking about here there's basically no substantiality to any textures at all you see that blurriness that's not for my camera that's just from like ah being zoomed in but like you just you can't make out anything it's kind of terribad like look at look at these sandbags it just looks like big white blobs and performance is negated for the witcher 2 i will be using the lowest presets once again at 1280 by 720 which is technically HD but by the time you set everything to low and are running on a 1080p screen so you're dealing with interpolation 720p doesn't look very HD at all we'll see how it goes here's the results so far with the i3 2105 that's 20.0 not 200 under Crysis 2 by the way which or two runs pretty Kara bad on the 2105 as well it actually doesn't look bad through the camera but I assure you it's not good combat in particular is a pretty choppy you can see the frame rate up there that's been a while since I've run mafia 2 as a benchmark so here's the settings I'm using all low 720p good stuff and then I'm just going to use the oh I gotta restart the game Here I am in the middle of benchmarking my cat wants me Froese toy forum so I will this is this toy now he'll go get it sometimes he brings it back sometimes you knocks it down the stairs it chases it on is up here's the big finale in the Mafia to benchmark where's this plosion oh I'm right I missed it okay well there you go there's the results it's been a while since I've been to a cops but I figure it's appropriate fairly mainstream game this is a very mainstream sort of platform on board graphics all that stuff check out this guy's shirt yeah yeah we're not even getting like fantastic frame rates even so but yeah we'll see how it compares to the APU Nordica so here I'm configurate being configurating configuring the integrated graphics forcing multi monitor I'm setting everything at the highest I've got 8 gigs of system memory so I have no problem with 2 gigs on the frame buffer so let's see how this goes so now that I'm in Windows with my 6670 I can see that crossfire is enabled with the APU if I go into the hardware you can see I've got my 65 50 D my hyper memory I got my where to go 6550 D linked adaptor built by now ok that's funny it's at 66 70 just a minute ago components display 6600 series there we go okay good enough so let's run some games now I want to take a short break in my testing to show you guys something this is the Aspen canned benchmark for dirt three I'm running it on the 66 966 70 with the APU running in CrossFireX mode now check out these frame rates so I'll wait until the race is actually running but when I ran it at 720p low settings it destroyed the core i3 2105 I mean that makes sense we've got a dedicated graphics card in there and you can but you can see here I'm still still demolishing the 2105 and I've actually turned the game all the way up to 1080p all high details now so you can see that it's much sharper looking there's a very noticeable difference I mean it looks like a racing game from you know eight years ago when you turn the but when you turn the graphics way down whereas now it looks like a modern racing game with pretty decent graphics so that's that's the difference it makes I just wanted to show you guys that actually the benefit is not necessarily in terms of frame rates from adding these technologies but actually also in terms of dramatically improved graphical quality you can see it's still going to outperform it look at that okay guys so I'm doing my final run with 33 with the 838 50 so I'm ready to present my results pretty much so I'll talk about everything so far and then I'll show you guys the results of this one so I've got my 66 70 here I've got my core i3 over here and let's have a look at the results so this is my onboard graphics showdown at 1280 by 720 I'm using all modern games so yes you're going to see poor scores here but the reality of it is these are designed to be run with modern gaming graphics cards not with modern onboard so you know they all did their best however I would like you to notice something right away so first of all here's the core i3 2105 we have for the most part not very playable frame rates for a bad best around that 30 FPS range and then in dirt3 we managed to get well over it whereas with the a8 3850 you can see were for the most part well into that playable range the exception being Mafia 2 so that is the difference in performance between the core i3 2105 and the 838 50 in games so this is at a very GPU bound resolution but we're looking at more than double the performance in dirt three double the performance and bad company to almost double in Crysis 2 double in The Witcher 2 more than double in mafia 2 and hub double again in call of duty black ops so that is the performance Delta between the i3 2105 and the 83815 now this was a bit of an error on my part but at such low graphical settings we're not seeing much of a benefit from this additional graphics card so I want to wanted to show you guys was yes it does consistently beat the non graphics carded version especially see where we're GPU bound it absolutely blows it away it adds about double again the performance of a core i3 2105 where we're not GPU bound anymore more running into CPU vom scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference see this so here in Crysis 2 it makes quite a big difference as well so what I did was I actually ran a grid grid 3 dirt 3 at 1080p all high with 0 anti-aliasing and I got about 60 fps so you can see that we only lose about half of the frame rate versus running it on all low 720p however when we take that same game and we run it with the a8 3850 which is what I just did we get 29.7 so you can see that when we are GPU bound the crossfire configuration can perform up to double of the 3850 on its own which is in turn pretty consistently about double a core i3 2105 so the reality of it is the CPU component is not as powerful as a 2105 in pure especially dual threaded benchmarks it's just not even going to come close but the a8 GPU just or the Radeon HD 65 50 d just destroys the Intel HD graphics three thousand so thank you for checking out my video on AMD's latest a eight AP you don't forget to subscribe to Linus tech tips 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