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oh I just sat through over three hours of AMD presentations and what do I have to show for it well we know it'll be available starting 2:22 2017 which is today and that performance will be competitive with Intel's Core i7 lineup but as we've been saying for so long that means nothing if it's priced the same so is it well as it stands today AMD Rison looks poised to deliver top-shelf performance and do so at an incredibly disruptive price so let's have a closer look so we'll start by talking about the lineup all the general stuff we confirm back at CES is still true dual channel memory overclockable across the board assuming you've got a motherboard chipset that supports it and 24 PCIe lanes but we have a ton more details now so at the top of the product stack is the Rison 7 1800 x this is an 8 core 16 thread processor ok that we knew before but now we know clock speeds it runs at 3.6 to 4 gigahertz though it'll actually boost up to 4.1 with what they're calling XFR or extended frequency range assuming you've got the cooling horses for it and it is coming in at a tiny well okay it's still expensive but $4.99 AMD is positioning this a 95 watt $500 part up against intel's 130 watt $1,000 6900 k though as usual the top-of-the-line part isn't necessarily the most compelling and things get even more interesting as we work our way down the stack so behind me here is the 1700 X it still gets the x4 like X Factor so it's a 95 watt part you should expect better overclocking out of it compared to a non X part and it still features their extended frequency range so it runs from three point four to three point eight or three point nine with appropriate cooling it's still got eight cores it still got 16 threads and it does all of this priced at 399 which puts it competitive with the 6800 K which is actually the demo that they have behind us before we do the demos we've got to introduce the good member of this good better best product stack this is the risin 7 1700 this guy is a little bit unique you still get a coarse you still get 16 threads but now we're talking significantly lower clock speeds gigahertz base up to 3.7 gigahertz boost and you get a significantly lower TDP 65 watts making this the lowest rated eight core desktop processor on the market and you will be doing this at a slightly lower price 3:29 compared to a 7700 K so that would be a quad core a thread processor that it's going up again but come on line is enough spreadsheets show us show us so they gave us access to their Cinebench demo unsupervised which was unwise of them let's go ahead and run that while I explain what's going on behind me so we have a rise in seven 1800 X remember that's the top of the line 1 499 with 16 gigs of RAM on some validation board then over on the other side they've got the hardware right here we can see it we've got a 69 hundred K running with 32 gigs of corsair dominator platinum on an asus rog board so they really couldn't give it much more of an advantage and then we're running Cinebench with multi-threading enabled and the results are in so right here here's the 69 hundred K actually see okay nothing's disabled 1479 and over here is the Rison 7z 3601 d and it has an engineering example but whatever was Verizon seven 1800 X 1600 marks at half the price now obviously this isn't the whole story when it comes to CPU performance but it is definitely an impressive demo though not as impressive as this one I'm going to press this big red button which has been beckoning at me since I pressed it five minutes ago ooh and I'm starting what Andy is calling their mega tasking demo which is a combination of blender and handbrake designed to test the multitasking all of these CPUs although I believe mega tasking was like an AMD TM thing that they were using back when they were marketing I think it was try cores or six cores or something like that against intel's quad cores and dual course anyway all of that tension has at this point the point of the demo is that we are timing how long it takes to run this octane demo and this hand braking code that you can see here is running in the background all needs to systems so they've put the 1700 X remember this is the 399 8 core 16 thread up against Intel's Core i7 6800 K once again the systems are similar though AMD has for whatever reason kneecaps themselves with 16 gigs of DDR 4 vs. Intel's 32 gigs of DDR 4 and now I just have an awful lot of time to kill so I will use this opportunity to talk about how they have a lot of cool systems here on display from all of their partners this could be one of the most complete AMD ecosystem launches that that we have ever seen I think they're saying something along the lines of 82 motherboards available at launch with more to come and I think it was 18 system integrators that are going to have systems ready to go at launch it seems like there's a lot of confidence in the a m4 platform while the a and these systems done I think we could just like time lapse through this so people know we aren't faking it there we go okay so ninety 1.6 seconds versus a hundred and twelve point one seconds I mean none of this should be that surprising from a pure performance numbers standpoint I mean we're looking at an eight core 16 thread processor versus a six core 12 thread processor but Andy's not designing this test to be fair in terms of core count to core count they're designing it around pricing this chip on the right costs less than this chip on the left really yeah way old you were in the same presentation I was leading us finally to what may be the most disruptive skew of all the 1700s so this one is as I said before 329 putting it around the same price as a 7700 K and you can see right here they've got two general systems running again side by side with a risin seven 1708 core and a core i7 7700 k and they're playing dota 2 while streaming using OBS at the same settings they really let us get a lot closer to the demos here so we're able to validate all of the stuff ourselves and demonstrating how and I had been asking for this for many generations why is the mainstream still limited to quad core so they're showing us how more cores can benefit a multi-threaded workload even for gamers so the core i7 7700 case screen drops frames while the 1700 stream does not this last demo battlefield 1 at 4k is actually one we've seen before sort of we've had some of the blanks filled in this time so we already knew that Rison unnamed was up against the 6800 k with ddr4 memory and dual Titan XPS and sli but what we didn't know was exactly what that risin ship was or what speed it was running at so now we know it is actually their lowest tier risers have been 1700 that's the 65 watt part and we know that it runs at anywhere from 3 gigahertz to 3.7 gigahertz in this case it's running at about 3.6 5 which might tell us something interesting about the granularity of the way that rise in boost anyway back to the game the other key difference between then and now is that AMD has their Boost Technology working so while at CES brain rates were the same to within a framer 3 now here we are looking at exactly the same starting scene driving our tank exactly the same way and Rison 7 1700 has a clear performance advantage and a significant one now to be fair AMD is picking their battle somewhat here they could have put it up against the much more similarly priced 7700 K which due to its higher frequency is in most cases a better gaming CPU then a core i7 6800 K but there's no denying here that there's a compelling value case to be made for this chip that outperforms a 6800 K at about $100 less so oh that's fine and good line is this is the kind of CPU that we can have 4.8 billion transistors 2 kilometres of signal wiring if we're not concerned about putting graphics processors inside them but you have left those the most important part does it have RGB and the answer is yes you are looking at an RGB AMD 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