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and okay we're actually live this time whoo we got that going no problem no big deal not a thing yeah oh there's the thing but it's it's an okay thing so we've got a great show for you guys today I'm here Luke's here and John might be making an appearance really a perv one specific topic oh do we have another legal topics yeah well I see you know those are actually some of the most interesting ones for me because you'll go off on something where he's like I'll have some misconception or whatever and he'll go off and be like well actually it works this way I'm in this specific state or whatever turns out that I got an education for a reason and you probably should have gone to school and you know no I disagree with it for your use case not for everybody really okay you know what's funny is I actually had lunch with a local content producer yeah earlier this week like she she does like this kind of vertically-integrated content production for business professionals okay that's like about stocks and like business tips and like that and apparently their program actually airs among other things on one of Fox's things like a fox business thing okay and then also unlike Air Canada flight like a very old media yeah you know like relationships with you know national airlines and like yeah network TV and anyway so she want to have lunch I had no idea what she wanted basically we did like a studio tour teryn I was instructed by someone who works with her doing some stuff over at BCIT and the funny thing is Karen brought me into their studio so that I could see how like a proper company does things and maybe we should have edits weeds and maybe we should have death and maybe we should have that and it turned out that in much the same way as us they learned as they went and there were a lot of things they did better than us and there are a lot of things we do better than them so that was enlightening and then do they do it at sweets they do have at it too that was what he wanted me to see what he didn't want me to see with all the other kind of janky stuff like the fact that they literally have footage archived on betas still whoa yeah but remember broadcast TV that was a thing but you'd think you'd move it a lot more recently where you would actually resubmitting finished projects by mailing a beta mags okay or not a Betamax sorry it's like they were two different standards yeah like the the broadcast tape version and like the one that competed with eh anyway the point the point is they still has like a shot and this is after they cleaned up they have like a shelf of betas and it's like you're great and I was telling them about the vault and stuff they're like yeah that would be pretty cool and Terran is like yeah that's pretty useful maybe I don't have an editing suite but I do have that anyway the point is she asked me to have lunch with her and she she didn't really tell me was about it turned out she wanted me to talk some sense into her son okay who had this idea in his head that he was going to he has two videos uploaded to YouTube in you you probably get this all the time too right could be like how do I be a successful all wait you to burn especially am I not to poet but I'm going on my stream yeah especially on your streams because like you have which is hilarious because my stream sucks and like nobody watches it and people ask me how to be a successful streamer and like you think I know I love about that because I was going to crap on your stream a little bit yeah I know it sir I was gonna be like yeah like and your streams not even bad or anything I'm charity like but you have a lot more success streaming than like you know how it's like the first thousand subscribers on YouTube is the hardest right you've passed that first handful of amateur subscribers ever took a further step and owned it in the rest of the winter but you clearly know enough to know laughing that people would ask you about it anyway so so usually when people ask that question it starts with yeah I just uploaded my first video or I just did my first stream what would you recommend and the guys like yeah so I want to do like a like a fitness clothing line and I want to do like a fitness lifestyle vlog and and uh and every waited way to compete against everyone yeah yeah and it was funny because his mom's giving me additional details like yeah he wants me to pay for plane tickets so he can like travel interesting places for his lifestyle on course and so I was like oh yeah all right bro one I'm not gonna side with your mom and and just say the straight up stay in school could be a decent strategy because I didn't don't worry about it really I mean she's got plane tickets go all around the world okay you're going somewhere else with that no totally not anyway yeah I'm not siding with his mom directly because like the whole school thing didn't work out very well for me but I was also like on the other hand dude if you're going to succeed as a social-media influencer you won't succeed unless you have a the passion and be the drive slash work ethic yeah to do it on the side yeah so if you don't have anything better to do then stay in school but don't lose track of that this should be your full-time side project yeah and that was sort of the advice that I gave and the guy like he looked like I you know punched him in the stomach well then I was bigger than I am my big I think oh my goodness thank you Nick my biggest thing is like the Nason should be paying me for this yeah I've been drinking out of this bottle on wine show for years yeah you can call it that person who you call the super fun yeah okay maybe I'll do that I don't think he controls any budget spending there so it won't do me any good but upside my suit half the money product placement okay you can never get money for product placement if you have product placement all over it up for free anyway yeah people everyone looks at and they just go why so why pepper this you're going to do it I've never done a successful straight up product placement deal I don't make sure we tried to do something with a SmartWatch like with pebble I think like a thousand years ago and then pebble wouldn't even send us review samples and then they got bought yeah so that's about how successfully visual yeah maybe they should have done that marketing anyway um okay so my thing especially a blur in his specific position yeah were you like he's uploaded two videos yes my whole thing is like I don't care and you shouldn't upload way more that's your big problem right now is you just need to do it a whole bunch yeah because there's going to blending but you learn it doing it doing it yeah yeah and from doing it okay anyway like a you know alright let's really enjoy the Valero announcement when I thought it was that LTX I'm actually getting a lot more confident that this is going to be a lot of fun yeah the case toss was really fun we put we put actually we put Colton's wife in charge of the event yeah because previously we had Colton in charge because they had such a wonderful and well organized wedding and then we found out that of course she had nothing to do with it so we hired his wife and she is doing a bang-up job so far there is gonna be a lot of fun stuff to do also fresh books yeah Brett box and UK water blogs the core book now hold on a second actually you know what I'll get into it in the sponsor spot but that is not as crazy as it sounds yeah that whole thing that I just put on the screen there ah ok so first first topic you know what let's jump right into the good stuff today the original article here is from PC perspective and it was posted on the forum by eek in and our buddy mister the one and only Ryan shroud tastic got his hand on an AMD Vega Frontier Edition and how he did this I can tell you he bought it the same as we had to ours is in the mail ok AMD is not sampling frontier edition why might they not oh actually you know what's really funny is I didn't even read the article purchased directly from a reseller rather than being sampled from AMD so why didn't they want to sample this to press well there are a number of potential explanations for that can you think of any will they've been moving this way for a while ok that's true online professional cards yeah the fire fire class cards and actually kind of both sides have been living this way a little bit NVIDIA has still been on their gaming cards have been pushing really hard but AMD for a little while now has been saying they don't want to give out as many reviewers sample cards because they want to do more seating into the community and NVIDIA did not sample the Titan xpp yeah we have a video coming featuring it soon but we borrowed it from somebody and they're trying to line this card up more against those that's true okay okay I mean now I'm going to contribute a potential reason potential reason number two yields are very low and they don't have a lot of them yeah okay so that might be another one you got another one I don't this is a thing mm-hmm but even maybe everyone is buying every single card everywhere for AMD right now ah okay I'll totally like know that it will sell immediately so price so rather than giving away literally money in the bank which one your AMD and like with their press right now they might not even need reviews of this thing because everyone talking about AMD stuff is super popular right now yeah and very positive right now yeah so it's going to be popular in positive anyways and then everyone's buying it anyways because of mining so they might not even need the marketing that they would get from sending it okay which brings us then to reason number four which I actually think might be the most likely Vega does not look like it is going to set the world on fire and AMD and for that matter I mean who hasn't done this but AMD has demonstrated in the past a lower level of eagerness to seed products that they don't think are going to be as exciting in an attempt to if not limit independent coverage of them at least not spend money on getting independent coverage of them so let's give a brief outline of what it is so the Vega founders Edition is not explicitly a new gamers frontier editions I've done a lot on the announcement with you like really you guys I actually might have another walk in the park coming on AMD's naming schemes because I'm getting real set up so the Vega friend here is almost sort of copy everyone else yeah not explicitly aimed at gamers like Nvidia Titans we shouldn't expect the best performance per dollar okay Gaming results though and this is this is kind of this kind of throws up some warning flags because with gaming results between a gtx 1070 and a 1080 priced at $1,000 for the 300 watt version this tells us a couple things number one is that and that's the air-cooled one and 1500 dollars for the 375 watt water-cooled one that tells us we are pretty close to the the limit of what this chip is capable of and there isn't a lot of magic sauce we did a video kind of covering this a little while ago was a holy Shiite episode that we did where we were like $6,000 graphics card we game on it the amount of R&D that goes into building a GPU is such that you should be very surprised if there is a specific product created for Quadro versus GeForce yeah it's the same product it's the same silicon and in much the same way AMD's frontier edition silicon will be the same silicon give or take it might be set up and utilized or whatever in different ways and the memory paired with it might be different units here and yeah and logic on board might be a little bit different week here and there yeah but the amount of money involved in building a GPU is incredible so if you are expecting then the gaming versions of Vega to come in and crush the GTX 1010 80 let alone the 1080 Ti you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment and I'm sure that the AMD fans and twitch chat are freaking out right now I'm specifically not looking at it because I really don't care I'm laying down some reality here and that's the way it's going to be there is some driver optimize a to be done and AMD has been victorious for this the 5870 is a perfect example of a product that managed to get faster enough through driver releases that when they rebadged it it ended up being it ended up not looking that bad when you looked at launch reviews of the rebadged one versus launch reviews that's the original one but you can't expect more than it's not going to double in speed driver optimizations will give you a little bit but the silicon is by and large not going to change you know the clock speed is by and large not going to change because it's a 300 watt part at 999 AMD's closest thing to a competitor is probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a gtx 1070 to 1080 in terms of performance so AMD may not have abandoned the high-end but it does look like because they're not even talking about like a high your end yeah vega architecture product right now not at all they do seem to have abandoned whether by choice or whether by strategy the enthusiasts of the very extreme high-end I like using rise of the Tomb Raider as a standard benchmark regional scales really well CPU and GPU yeah and and multi-gpu even and the Vega EFI only managed to beat out the 1070 by about a four to five percent lead which is at that price like really not great so it's not a gaming card no it's not and we don't know anything about what pricing of Vega gaming like ours what are they gonna call it our 9 Vega or something I don't I don't wanna call it but a lot of times you can get a rough idea of how it will perform and things that aren't gaming by using games yes they're not under they're not completely unrelated yeah but with that said I believe it is it FP 16 something there's there's some more more professional-grade features that make it more comparable to Quadros than a straight gaming yard would that perform much better and may make Vega frontier Edition very interesting for workstation users because it will be similar in terms of performance to AP 5000 Quadro but at about half the price of that so at the very least if you if you are wondering about buying like this crazy tiered AMD card for gaming like maybe don't maybe that's what we know so far the very least like wait until the gaming version of it arrives as you can see kind of what were what we're dealing with here even PC purse conclusion is like title marked conclusion dotto dot for now or something like yeah so like yeah I don't think it's a huge deal um yeah I mean looking into this card as a gamers perspective but that's not what it is no and it's not how its price yeah I am shocked that they had the guts to do a water-cooled card again like that looked like a desperation tactic last time the fury X was a commercial failure other commercial failure and could you buy I don't think you could buy a fury ax air-cooled though right no so this is a versioning thing yeah you have a narrative is one there's this what were you know Geary X again yeah yeah yeah oh that's fair yeah we've got people in the chat I'm finally I'm finally looking at the chat i've decided to subject myself to that age core 1 2 3 is like AMD fans equal Nvidia fans and there's some emoji I can't see because it's too small and yeah I recent Wars but I talked about this a little bit on the last show to the recent war has been kind of interesting because everything that people are fighting about are these like outside of the tears of what they're probably shopping for products it is not funny so weird the percentage of people that are actually interested in buying $1,000 graphics card because if AMD can get this price right then you know it yeah it'll stomp all over 1060 but if it consumes like 300 watts yeah I don't know well you know what how about this why don't we cross that bridge when we get to it in the meantime that's what we know for now also our Vega frontier Edition is coming so we're going to run all of our own numbers and make our own video and you can probably save yourself the trouble of watching it by reading strout's reviews am I allowed to say that yeah I mean who's gonna fire me haha why did you fire her dammit crap I'll have to go to my other job yeah I'll have to go work work for floatplane Club like you suck you yeah would you hire me yeah yes yeah yeah I would you'd be pretty expensive but alright I feel like that investment would pay itself off so the original article for our next news story is overclocked 3d dotnet AMD announces their new rise in pro series of desktop CPUs and I I got to confess I was a little bit confused initially by the announcement of rise and Pro because I kind of went well what makes a processor Pro other than being a processor nothing I get nothing for processor sorry I'm replying to something I hate you can use exact I can I pretend that that laughs whatever my joke the best part too is you made a joke and I didn't laugh because I was answering a question of someone going really Luke laughing again everything's funny I'm just like you know what I enjoy things and I find things funny maybe we do when Shelley alone at the end of the day on Friday so we can kind of loosen up a little bit hang out for the first time this week because we almost never see each other this week was pretty good this week really really good it was of yeah yeah yeah Daisy underscore HK yeah I just enjoy laughing at things yeah you know what laughter is the best medicine I even got any mo therapy in which case chemotherapy is probably the best medic you might need to go do yeah so laughter is the best medicine for if you're not actually sick if you're not actually okay anyway so I was sitting there going what makes something a processor and mine got him and my intro my initial answer to that was the obvious one ECC support okay yeah okay okay so you can use server memory that has automatic error Corrections that are going on the fly in case there's like you know a solar flare that flips a bit or whatever and you you're you're freaking you know freenas ZFS array gets corrupted irreparably like that that's a pro-level feature but the funny thing about that is that Rison has ECC jokes they didn't fuse it off the way that intel does on all of their consumer chips even ones that cost a thousand dollars which i think is unreasonable because they're worried about they're worried about cannibalizing their enterprise chips they're Zeon's so what they do do though and this didn't occur to me initially is they offer Windows 10 Enterprise security support AES 128 bit memory encryption and a longer warranty with that set a 36 month warranty is what they used to offer anyway hey okay I mean sure also a processors whether it's AMD or Intel they're both pretty good about their CPUs not just like randomly fail every times if you had a processor dying I had an operon 165 die I deserved it good your fault I had it how do I put this um yeah I'll hold on yeah no I didn't like drop it on the floor but you like over-voltage the bites are off of it just can you just relax okay okay so I had it chilled to minus 25 degrees okay I'm not going to finish this all right all right so it was not really the processors if I had that coming I'm not a yeah so zero so far yeah any more um no I'm all towards zero so like it's probably fine the pro series will come okay now to be clear I have had like a test bench chips die was that the old school chiller yes a hole that's pretty cool that's the chiller we haven't thrown it away I might resurrect it someday just for lulz you should do that as a video it would be a great actually it'd be a great deal how do you really get Alice to help you with it like yeah is it a little bit uh get it in a cooler box than just proto case to do something yeah yeah I like this project that should be really sick and then we could use it like on our test benches and stuff I'll be really sick we'd have to do up a new block for it because the block I use for it was a danger dent EDX and that was out of period nest maybe you can follow up the like terrible heatsink guides with like a we professionally designed our own heatsink terrible chiller guide I would love personally I would love watching them that would be great so I was actually using and highly not recommended so we're asking for the story but keep it with antifreeze and water as coolant because once you're going down - no no sorry that's not what you use you use a windshield the icer oh that's actually like an alcohol-based coolant yeah so I was using that at like sub 25 degrees actually a little more than that on the actual coolers about sub 35 I was using that in there philic block oh you restart no no I didn't I didn't know that survived no no I'm just saying that that block still exists we still have it but it is so good full micro-cracks yeah around the fittings yeah that it is terrifying so I was using it out of cheapness but has assumed it would have corrected them whatever block I used in this contraption had to have like industrial glue put on it so that I could put all of my like neoprene insulation and crap all over it and so it was basically a write-off and that was at a time that so a what you're supposed to use an all-metal block yeah preferably all the same metal yeah so that the expansion contraction is of different metals yeah yeah so preferably you're supposed to do that but those back then I would have been buying like a water cool I think it was called the heat killer 3.0 or something like that or whatever it would have been at the time where those well you were like 150 bucks all just silver not you could get silver ones but even the copper ones are like they were like 80 or 90 euro or something but we put like that so so I was using like a crazy dumb thing anyway if we if we use the partnerships that I now have with like proto case to do like a really nice enclosure for it like get ek to build us something like custom or something for it that would be a sick project and something that we could like pull out with pride on the testbench when we want play yeah no you know what because we have more resources now there's more writers and all that stuff something that I would love for us to do is back when it was just you and me we did some factory juries yes we did arm Ron we did Sennheiser we did I feel like there was another one oh yeah we did cherry cherry how do you forget area like much that was where we Bluffs our factory tour cherry yeah it was it was great I think I think I missed it because Sennheiser and cherry were on the same trip they were yeah yeah but now going through like maybe spending a couple days there mm-hmm and like going through each station through like the design process of a waterblock go through like the guy that cads out the original files you know what we we tried to do ek oh we actually were thinking about doing it on the same trip as cherry and Sennheiser oh we couldn't get it worked out because the budget required for all the travel and because we do charge for those that did a sponsored type of project for us they couldn't make that work at the time but now that they're going a little bit more mainstream and actually that might work we'll talk a little bit more about that when we do our ad spot for LAN show today that ok spots maybe we could make it work because I would love to be a super cool bear shop is sick yeah and like if you can actually see like what goes into designing and building upon our ek actually manufactures everything so they're not like all water cooling companies that are designing somewhere and then outsourcing to China yeah ek actually owns their own manufacturing so it would be pretty cool to see that every preacher ok well what else do we got ok raiven Pro um right we were talking about ok risin Pro offers yet another advantage over Intel's i3 series especially because those lacks Intel vPro so basically AMD is putting more pressure on Intel and this time it's on the like professional and business feature side which is definitely something that I can appreciate because I mean you were talking about this the other day the security and encryption is going to become one of those things where like we might be sitting in a golden age of hardware right now where manufacturers are waking up to the need for encryption on their devices Apple has to a great extent you know and governments haven't outlawed it yet yeah so think about this like ten years from now getting your hands on a rise in Pro might be like a thing yeah for your like encrypted computer you want encrypted memory yeah think about that for a minute look I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat but it's no secret governments around the world there's articles in this way and show that we haven't talked about yet that are exactly in line with this yeah it's going to be going to be an interesting time AMD accidentally reveals rise in three details wah wah quote-unquote accidentally or is this legitimately accident I can never tell with those guys to be honest with you sometimes I suspect that it's quote-unquote accidentally other times I believe them that it's not accident I don't know anyway originally posted by Ryan Smith over at Anand check well D if you were paying close attention to this morning's announcement of Andy's new rising prose cues and you likely notice something interesting the non ex pro chips all have the same performance specifications out there standard consumer counterparts specifically both of the non ex Pro SKUs with existing Verizon 5 and 7 counterparts have the same core counts Fox News and DT DS as for the final two rise in pro three SKUs well they inadvertently showed their hands when it comes to the forthcoming rise in three okay so I mean we are making some assumptions here but it looks like they've inadvertently revealed the rise in three thirteen hundred and twelve hundred specs so the rise in three looks like it'll be a quad-core CPU without SMT so that's four threads rather than eight which in my opinion is what entry-level chips should have been at this point for a few years now uh give me one quick second sorry you're good time is everything okay does everything seem okay to you guys tell you what why don't we talk about Rison three later why don't I just do the sponsor spots so boom fresh box alright I have I have notes I always go off script and I always get in trouble so fresh books is be super simple to use invoicing tool that actually does a lot more than just help you create and send slick-looking invoices you can keep track of your time with their timesheet function manage your expenses and keep track of who owes you money even going as far as to be able to tell you once your client has looked at your invoice for the first time what's really 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lowered the cost they have lowered the machining time which inherently lowers the cost they have retained the expandability and they have retained most of the performance of a full copper custom loop the drawback is that you can't mix eks a series products with their normal products because there would be a risk of galvanic corrosion I don't know why series started taking off there but the point is the a 120 the a 240 and the a 240 G especially personally I don't think this is in my I don't think this is in my sponsor notes but especially the a 240 and the a 240 G look like a fantastic value for a custom liquid coolant VG does that mean includes like graphics card it does it includes a 1062 Titan XP founders Edition compatible block cool so looks pretty darn good and unlike other a iOS it includes actual fittings it includes tubing that you can change up for something else it includes Vardar fans so very good fans and it includes a like like a custom grade pump and then tube reservoir combo nice yeah that's cool so look in looking pretty good so you can check that out over at GE GE ni dot us /ek fluid gaming I'll drop that in the twitch chat as well okay all right yeah I know I got the notification from Tyler that he was clearing the fridge out in 15 minutes oh I got it twenty one minutes ago oh and he was going to throw away your food which I like don't even normally store food here cuz I just have like Soylent which you don't throw out which I have for like breakfast and stuff but there's I had a bunch of food here that my girlfriend cooked and she's the least domestic person ever and doesn't cook but she's very excited about this stuff right now so if it all got thrown out that would have been a very bad light yeah that would have been bad bad scene so I solved that good everything's fine so you solved that by fishing it out of the garbage can putting it back in the container telling her I think in in Tyler's regular style he said 15 minutes and is probably like half an hour okay but it just wasn't done yet okay we've got people asking why I'm using an iPhone and be clear what I mean by that is he gave people a grace period not that he's delayed I'm using an iPhone because I actually don't really care right now between Android and iOS and I had to give the shooters my s8 which I was using as my daily driver to do comparative V roll against the 1 plus 5 and then I just haven't gotten around to putting my sim back in the s8 I do intend to go back to the s8 how do you feel about the notifications they're both awful in different ways okay because I was like one thing that I hated about iOS when I used it for a fairly short period of time was the notification yeah the problem is that Samsung in the I think it was the marshmallow update well LM new get a new good update so Samsung even when you set your privacy setting people the chat right even when you set your privacy settings to show your notifications on your lock screen before you log in they changed it so that Gmail notifications don't show anymore so I actually have to unlock the phone like I can see I have Gmail notification I can't see what they are okay well you should have your phone encrypted so it doesn't so what they are anyways no I think yet no it's encrypted but you should you should make it so that it doesn't show it yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like in the security should should should should do better to the point is I get too many notifications for that yeah to be perfectly frank with you if certain emails come through you can get super screwed yeah does it not show the subject I chose subject line maybe the first few words but there's not much there's some emails I can you can get screwed I don't get any like two-factor emails though like that because I think that's the kind you think mostly yeah no yeah ok no ok um so so yeah it's really frustrating and yeah so anyway I just haven't put my sim back in the s8 yet and I actually own two smartwatches they both sit on my bedside table on their chargers and whichever phone I happen to be using I just grab either an Android wear or an Apple watch Wow yep because I just don't care anymore I am actually pretty psyched for the you know what here let's blow through rise and three oh that's the opposite of first world problem so it's just like first world XS sorry I have a matching phone for I have a matching watch my phone it's perfect all the time you know what it's not that different from people who have watches for their outfits in fact it's very different I only need one wire article that is not more practical know your way oh I was admitting a minor amount of defeat yeah so anyway AMD accidentally real survives in three details its quad core without SMT it'll use the same guys rise and five rises up a lot surprising I just don't get paid enough even if I did I wouldn't do more cores distributed over to CC X's but we saw that that wasn't a huge deal with the lower engine 5 same caste structures rather than 5 1400 developed EQ blabbity blah blah blah TDP will still just be the same 65 watt but as we know the TDP ratings for CPUs like Intel rates all of their Armel SEC 8 PDT yeah it's like 130 watts yeah clearly the ones with twice as many cores clearly consume more power yeah clearly so there's that big blanket statement whole areas um yeah I had wanted to chat about oh yeah you know what well do you want to do this first or that why do we do that let's do that okay okay I realized what we're saying right now is very cryptic but this is important if you are not already on floatplane this is the week we'll other than like a scrap good worse because unlike scrapyard wars where we have one piece of content that like half of our community cannot wait to watch we have four pieces of content right now that are behind the early access wall on floatplane that are freaking unreal but they'll all be coming sometime in the next week since I've read all of them and I don't normally watch our videos even that hot okay I hear about everything going on and I'll like talk to the writer that's working on it and know their conclusions and loud day I'm just saying okay so LTT video exposing deadmau5 estudio spoilers he's a huge geek this isn't even ltte video but these cellphones actually cause cancer was an entertaining tech working to make you probably know the answer I kind of hope but like it's a good thing to send to people not everybody does or wouldn't have made the video fair um ltte unboxing a quantum computer that was very cool I was awesome so was the dead notes one those are both really on ltte the most important iPad video in years which actually got lost in translation it's supposed to be the most important iPad in years but that's okay we'll figure that out also there's a giraffe in the video which is why it's has gone wild see we're all about yeah faint that's true yeah ltte although ultimate RGB build guide yes build guides are back in a real way just okay okay this one lt's class distinction you could do that I'm sorry I didn't even know you could do it you didn't know you could go that review check out this intro this is very cool yeah the best part is can you identify all the people I can tell who some of them are except for when they're running by like I know names yeah that was very obvious yeah I can identify everyone except for when they're all running by all the ones anyway then it gets missing that's a great video ltte can you Plasti Dip a whole PC inside and out LPT unboxing Canada's biggest supercomputer yeah lgt can you Plasti Dip a whole PC it's actually really funny so next week is going to be ridiculous because many of these projects for things that we've been working on for weeks and or months and they just all kind of came together at the same time in fact if I was like in charge of programming here I might not have necessarily like I might have tried to find other sort of I don't want to say crappier stuff but yeah less expensive content to produce to like space things out a little bit but if you guys want to join the floatplane club basically the way to do it you've got the link you posted in the chat room okay good opt box got that now is kind of the time to do it and yeah it's going to be it's going to be a good time it's going to be a good time over on floatplane right now if you want to binge watch all that stuff you're going to eat you're going to like it um okay so Apple moving on to news this was supposed to by WM groom a K on the forum and the original article is from Engadget it looks like vivo vivo oh that's what happened there what beats Apple to an under display fingerprint scanner but they say that the technology still has a way to go I mean that's how it sometimes is where people are like yeah Apple never invented anything whereas a lot of the time Apple doesn't invent it they just kind of come along and use it when when it's actually mature enough yes we clear its it's a qualcomm technology yeah so this is an ultrasonic fingerprint solution offering integration beneath OLED displays up to one point two millimeters thick like that's pretty big that's a remote for an OLED as well as aluminum even that's frickin cool that's pretty clear like if the whole phone imagine this if you could have like if you could have like just to unlock your phone is like easy like it's just one and then to access your encrypted folder you have to put like all five fingers on it or you have to like can you imagine that I'll be pretty cool so if you had like you could have like the fingerprint down here the little like all four fingers on the back have to engage yeah I'll be pretty neat I would love that it'd have to be really accurate for that first gen stuff not going to have that but that's the kind of stuff I'd love to see in the future apparently it works even when the device is immersed in water just a huge problem with existing fingerprint sensors and it's already fair not because you're like swimming with your phone all the time but like if it's raining or something like that it's a little bit wet again really annoying or like if you sweat as much as I do I mean like sports not just in general eight or not I'm not sweaty right now I mean I touched your shirt so I could be as sweaty as you know yeah he's good scientific test very scientific a oh I have problems really awkward I have problems with fingerprint scanners though because I have as you know annoyingly sweaty hands you're not nearly as bad as when I met you yeah when I met you it was like people on hyperhidrosis it has gotten a little bit better um I would go out of my way to like not touch him like when I shook hands at his interview I was just like well can I hire this guy I also used to like like if I went on it let's get personal here for a second if I went on a date with someone I would like avoid that you would avoid hand-holding so yeah just straight grab her by the I do like arm over or I don't go no I don't go Trump's about with that but I try to go like arm over shoulders or like like something I would even do the like joking arm and arm we're being funny old school thing Wow that's Cranston well I would do it as a joke to be clear but I would do that for like a couple seconds to try to show like I'm not being standoffish but also I'm going to do this as a joke and then stop because I don't want to hold your hand Wow because I was like yeah it's pretty gnarly it's it's it's mostly fine now okay um karate one so anyway vivos x-play six demonstrated the technology the demo started off with a fingerprint registration process that requested blah blah blah etc etc then the user would be able to unlock the phone by touching the spot where they did the setup process or somewhere else so fingerprint recognition speed and this implementation is slower than the near instantaneous unlock we expect from normal fingerprint scanners about a second between the first touch and entering the home screen but they said the same TAC could be applied across the entire screen oh wait now hold on fingerprint was oh yeah so they touched a different area just above the old fingerprint button so instead they might eventually cover just the bottom half of the screen rather than the whole screen um to save cost and yeah same tax shown on the back of the phone's body allowing it to be unlocked even when placed in water pretty I like that well yeah I really like I very much like the fingerprint unlock on the back of the pixel I mean each fan of that um we're going into this yeah I don't know should we or just boring I want to talk about a theory of mining is a really quick one but I was posted on futurism and the original post on the forum was ginger 1:37 up and the headline kind of says it all is not not a whole lot more to say at this point if cerium could be using more than an entire country's worth of electricity now of course we don't mean like China or the u.s. or whatever oh hi guys but um I think the the country that we were talking about was that it's a small country cypress so a bit more than what's consumed by the island of Cyprus so 4.2 terawatt-hours Wow that's pretty insane so one major reason for this is the power-hungry graphics cards that are involved but this might not be the case for long if your iam has plans to move away from its existing energy intensive mining algorithms so there you can under what that means for people's hardware if it's just an algorithm thing like will that rebalance what is better at it it means a lot of cheap 580 s on the on eBay hopefully because honestly I was talking to someone the other day buying a computer right now kind of sucks holy crap it's a great time to buy a CPU yeah okay but on the counter argument and people are going to hate me for this but it's kind of rough to get into PC gaming right now and I actually see a lot of people going like Kay well the graphics card that I want is going to cost more than the freakin console yep and like it's hard to justify yep it's genuinely a little bit hard to just find it because the graphics cards are so expensive and if I'm a MD I certainly want to sell graphics cards for as much as I can of course why not or Nvidia for that matter although NVIDIA has been a little less popular on the Jolla period mining side of things and like I've seen some stuff where people are trying to snipe out stores because certain stores aren't increased kinda prices because they're just trying to go for MSRP and ram2 there's a worldwide DRAM shortage that's expected to last well into next year it's great for companies like Coursera because it's hilarious like Ram makers like Corsair in Kingston where they they buy modules and then sell them it's great for them because as much as it's frustrating for them to not be able to get as much allocation if they'd like to sell their margin on a product like that is kind of set because there's a lot of competitors out there and everybody's kind of in that 7 to 12 percent range pretty much give or take but even though they're selling less what they do sell hits their hits their revenue numbers a lot harder so they're doing more you and making 10% let's say on a $50 transaction versus making 10% on a $100 transaction having to do all the same fixed cost things so transport processing fee marketing transportation marketing packaging yeah hey that's great for them speaking of the memory business our IP Lexar memory cards this was posted by shudder boy on the forum the original article here is from petaa pixel but crucial I don't know if you guys know this but micron parent company of crucial and Lexar micron just kind of went yeah you know what compared to the lucrative business of selling flash to companies like Amazon and Google selling like SD cards is a fool's errand due to those low margins and low volumes all that packaging and all that marketing involved in what this tiny transaction this is stupid so they're just like forget it and they are shutting down their removable storage retail business I hope they don't shut down crucial because their Facebook page is hilarious other products that are being killed off include USB flash drives memory card readers and storage trailers which honestly I'm kind of not stoked on because the only pro-grade card readers that we could find yeah are those Lexar ones that we're using are in jealous of you I'm not even kidding we we might even do that yeah although I did run into someone at Computex that's making something that looks really Pro and that has SSD and read Meg versions as well they're like rackmount and yeah and they're modular so I'll look into those they run off Thunderbolt 2 and our ingest stations are Thunderbolt that's produced so we'll see yeah but if that doesn't pan out or if that product sucks Lexx ours all has kind of got but the decision was made as part of the company's ongoing efforts to focus on its increasing opportunities and higher value markets and channels so it basically like lacks our products suck it they are exploring opportunities to sell all or part of the Lexar business but what that means is basically that Lexar won't be Lexar yeah in much the same way that the Sharpe is trying to get their brand back in North America because they're actually suing over Hisense I'd leave it I sense I'm going to double check before I like this large a brand sharp high sense lawsuit I think yeah yeah Sharpe saying that high senses shoddily manufactured TVs are hurting their brand image well you know they were the ones who sold the business unit to high sets they sold it can they do anything about that I don't know but it explains you know how we go to CES and we're like what the heck is - yes yeah why are they even here yeah now I finally get it yeah um what else else we got for this week there's another time there's that weird Canada thing which might affect other people so I don't know we might want to talk about that there's the tech powerup thing I'm wondering on your opinion on that actually okay I'm sorry I really haven't looked into oh and there's digits there's not a ton to look into it you can look into it okay really quick so no I'm sure I start on it she having not read it yeah I was posted on the forum by eyes can't see over 24 FPS and that was the only way we're going to get me to say those words altogether in that order very very funny you know that's going to get closed eye Gant ik troll like really tightly clipped I know and the original article here is from deleted text comm which I've actually never heard of what does deleted techcom I don't know wow this looks like a very small site and I'm not hating or anything but basically the controversy is over a tech powerup article that appeared to be an article anyway that was a comparison between AMD's Radeon RX 5 60 and Nvidia's GTX 1050 but that was actually an AMD ad the article reads like a review with no disclaimers within the article itself that it comes from AMD or sponsored by AMD the only ad Mar occurs on the page were advertorial by AMD off to the side on the top right and the author being named advertorial the article was posted directly in the review section of the site our forum members apparently disagree as to whether or not AMD crossed the line I don't know why it wasn't linked but here's the actual thing okay so let's call it let's pull up the article here this does look like an article so they're sponsored right there yeah ad referral by AMD okay this might be looks like it's been updated a little bit might be updated huh when I first saw this I didn't check for each individual location but when I first saw this I was not oh it has sponsored right there content by nd okay okay it looks like a few things have been added ha interesting so did they ride around very much in its current state what do you what do you think about the transparency okay so its current state the deleted text site doesn't seem to have time oh I think there's a picture on there actually so yeah advertorial by AMD above the here let's go let's go over to deleted text for a second here and show what it used to look like move to my oh no mine screwed yeah your jobs carried up right now sorry you're going to want to yeah yeah okay so here's what it used to look like the the writer was advertorial it didn't say sponsored under the FASTA QA sponsored under the logo here and it said introduction as though it was an introduction to something yeah but it did say a Vittorio by MD over on the right so it wasn't like impossible to figure out what it was but I think the word advertorial is a little misleading because in my mind and advertorial okay so it's like edutainment right yeah it's inherently educational entertaining advertent tutorial and it's not a tutorial this isn't a tutorial at all here let's read it we'll read it together it's not like how to use AMD graphics cards advertorial by him last year AMD introduced the first polaris generation of GPUs with that AMD delivered many new features along with great performance in the latest games and greatly improved efficiency like that is not a tutorial be it eSports or triple-a titles best value for the money at around 100 euros consistently smooth animation in popular games at 1080 formance pitfalls caused by running out of video memory due to 4 gig models being available ok none of that tutorial for only around 100 euros the Radeon rx 560 outperforms the competition at this price point while showing the significant difference of upgrading from a previous generation is this their own benchmarks so that's honestly where that's that's the one that I don't like Radeon chill hold on with Ariane chill saves power during games it does this and these kinds of title there is no tutorial Oh editorial not tutorial editorial is it interesting good call twitch chat ok I did not know that I always thought that an advertorial was an ad that was like how to use it I thought it would would you is what I think an advertorial should be by the way because I have no problem with that in fact that's something neither I've been doing for years it's like here's how to water cool your computer so brought to you by some parts that you can use to do that but but all of these things I'm saying still apply to other stuff an advertorial the like proper definition is a newspaper or magazine advertisements don't worry too much about that giving information about a product in the style of an editorial or objective journalistic particle okay so that's actually fairly transparent okay alright fine I don't like yeah so there's a couple things here number one is I think they're going to need to change really just testing done by AMD in the last paragraph yeah I think it should say that on the chart I think the testing shouldn't be done by AMD that for one thing so even when we do so we've actually done a here the closest thing that we've done was uh but okay guys the testing done by AMD should be on the chart here this is the closest thing we've done actually with AMD oh I'm skippable ads we everyone's guru they enable after a while so they're on our our back catalogue oh yeah I'm doing it no it's something that our MCN does automatically yeah okay can you build a 4k gaming PC for under $1000 Oh for some reason we're not looking at the beginning of it so we say something something something something something AMD challenged us to do this blah blah blah hold on here we go is this the sponsored by AMD call-out no I don't think so but this was this was actually before some of those guidelines came into place and we see where else anyway I say it either two or three times in the video verbally when we get to the benchmarks because AMD's argument to us for doing this piece was that you can play popular eSports titles at 60fps on they're affordable for at 4k on they're affordable all AMD machine we ran these benchmarks ourselves and we told them we're not doing this video unless we can validate this ourselves yeah and that would have meant not taking the budget that happened letting AMD run their own benchmarks yes I think strictly speaking that does make it exactly as much of an advertorial then as just an opinion but an editorial again and maybe you can hear it want to be my definition man for a second year editorial my understanding means opinion and facts graphs and charts are not opinions a newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue so really that's where the line gets crossed for me because the disclosure is not quite good enough it should be in the title sponsored should be in the actual title of the article according to like FTC guidelines like that actually needs to get done the all of this stuff is quite a bit better now ad referral by AMD but in my opinion these graphs should have either been run by techpowerup or they shouldn't be here and it should just be an opinion at the very least in my opinion needs to be very clear on the graphs of these are graphs from the company and then personally that would just make me not care and I'd move on people are saying the graph serve as evidence for the opinion of the author but that's exactly it and it isn't editorial then it's not an opinion you can't say in my opinion this graphics card runs faster when you actually have that I mean it's the whole blurry line between faction opinion these days but once it's been quantitatively measured in a way that is reproducible and defensible and adheres to the scientific method once it's quantified it isn't an opinion anymore and a graph inherently suggests that it has been quantified people are saying but AMD is the author that's fine but it still isn't an editorial and therefore isn't an advertorial so yeah huh okay I mean as long as it's disclosed it's sort of up to them and their relationship with their viewers for our part we do do sponsored content we've done sponsored content for years we say when it's sponsored content I would love to say that we've never used anyone's numbers we've shown slides with a manufacturer's numbers generally speaking that would be before we get an opportunity to show our own numbers like at a launch event or when it's being first unveiled at CES for example yeah but then it's usually clearly stated that that's their numbers but it's clearly stated that anyone else's numbers not quite but probably almost every time that I've done that I've been like but we'll have to see when we can get it back into the office for testing of our own so I mean with over 3,000 videos uploaded I don't want to say we've never shot anybody else's numbers yep generally speaking that's where we draw our line clear disclosure and running our own validation against the claims of the manufacturer yeah in this case I can't speak to their due diligence behind the scenes except to say that this graph doesn't look like it was produced by them it looks like it was produced by AMD for all I know they ran the numbers but I don't like those performance by in two years oh you know that's ready to dive down at the very bottom you testing done by AMD performance labs March 1st 2017 using a core i7 6700 K oh boy um yeah so I'm not going to say look sponsored content shouldn't exist I'm just going to say it needs to be clearly disclosed and for me personally I'm very careful about any claims that are made in our publication that I couldn't stand behind whether I was the one who ran the numbers or whether it was my idea or whether it was someone else's idea even in sponsored content and it's up to techpowerup to manage their relationship with their audience and their trust with their audience in terms of how they want to proceed with this there yeah it's interesting one more topic um I'm kind of done okay yeah that's boring that's boring okay this is kind of cool pet yeah yeah coaxial gamer posted this on the forum original article from overclocked 3d net toshiba produces the world's first four bit per cell so that's qlc NAND flash memory so the endurance on this stuff will suck like we're talking a handful of write cycles compared to what SLC would have been capable of if it still existed but great for write once read many many times kinds of applications because it will be really cheap so we're talking capacities of up to 96 gigabytes of storage per die allowing Toshiba to create a 1.5 terabyte SSD package with a 16 die stacked architecture so they're going to demo it at the 2017 flash summit in August hmm there's X 299 boards bad vrm cooling oh yeah that's a big sort of thing I think we did tease that so yeah we should probably talk about I've seen this guys videos before I think you pronounced the channel do Bower yeah about right yeah yes I good videos actually but serve hours posted a video showing the VRMs on an X 299 board we're reaching one degrees and the single 8-pin connectors for the power supply can hit sixty degrees when overclocking the ten core models here's to our good guy pro overclocker actually makes the der bauer D living tool which he gave us one of its pretty pretty sick and he has some serious concerns about X 299 and how much time the motherboard manufacturers had to work on their designs to make sure that they were cooled correctly and not just that but if you're interested in that kind of stuff go watch this video he does good stuff but given that the motherboard manufacturers also got blindsided by any CPUs with a core count over 12 it's not just a matter of being rushed but also a matter of not having enough information potentially to design a board that is actually capable of handling this to be very he was testing with one of the 10 yes the 10 core yes but yeah so you can still it can't get any better it can only get worse yeah it's sort of a point yeah okay there's one more topic we can gloss over it a little bit but I'd also want to give some people information on it someone if there were no oh just Petya ransomware okay I do really want to give a call-out for the guy on the forum that post of this thread WM groom a Kay has done a very very good job of keeping this up to date with really good article linking really good quoting really good updates condensing big updates on other sites down into the easy digestible things so if you're interested in the world of viruses and hacking and ransomware and and wipers and everything else definitely go check out this thread I just post it in the chasm and there's a lot of crazy information in there there's a bit of a developing story yeah so you can maybe if we cover this now and someone watches the show in three days it's not going to be updated all our notes are wrong and not because James is a bad person but because it has literally all changed it's been changed he made his notes so so go check out that thread it's being updated like it was last updated like slightly over an or ago yeah like after the show was even supposed to start technically before the show started but yeah it's it's parading as ransomware it's actually a wiper apparently the email account has been closed by the email hosting services I was hosting it so even if you try to pay to get your thing back they can't receive the email so they're not going to be able to give you a key to unlock your device like it's it's it's a mess right now and if you're really interested in that stuff I would check out that thread it's it's very well today all right even includes like the Bitcoin wallet address that people are sending money to so you can see like how much money they've made so far and everything like it yeah that's good all right so thanks for watching guys and we will see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel well pal fans down you're like out out right okay Wendall's okay it doesn't matter than that I'm not trying to hide it Oh