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AMD VEGA SPECS REVEALED - WAN Show May 5, 2017

2017-05-05
okay my friends and also my enemies there's nothing I can do to prevent you guys from tuning in yeah that's true you could prevent them from talking the chat I can make them watch me eat because I haven't had a chance to have lunch today a lot of people going to complain about that I know people don't like it when you eat which is why I'm only going to take one bite so that I can generate the complaints but I'm not actually being that terrible of a person oh okay can you explain me why it's terrible though I've actually never understood because okay yeah but if you avoid that so much secretively words oh boy alright yeah we've got a great show for you guys today my combs frozen because he's the garbage and otherwise I would tell you what what we have for you oh there was a long-lost Starcraft Gold source code that was found apparently this source code disc was lost so they had to start on Starcraft from scratch and the reward that the guy got for finding it is like junk tear yeah I know right a lot of the topics are like a handsomely rewarded I'm like not it oh wow yeah more like got fisted yeah a little bit not cool okay well so you thinking about getting fisted you could come to LTX 2017 which is a limas Texas meetup that we are hosting locally which should be super fun if you enjoys our marriage so we'll talk more about that later we're gonna address the LTTE thousand dollar build guide that some of you are feeling kind of fisted about now this is becoming a bit of a common theme yeah and finally AMD fisting their customers yes by making money from their drivers yeah alright so we'll get to that and more at eleven little asterisk after the eleven and it's like eleven is good every time you were one yeah that's right but like later than that moment because we haven't started yet all right we'll be watching live and using the code now instead of waiting for the integration and Backblaze we have due today that's fun yes my friend we do all right so let's go ahead and go back to us and I'm gonna try and wow Mike Rome is so broken what am I supposed to do I can post the topics in the chat you can get the links from the chat wow I guess that doesn't Wow what the crap Firefox do it no it's not I would not be frozen I would if it was going to be better but it won't be oh that's just my personal stuff don't worry about it he saw my my secret tab of quad socket motherboard that I like to look at late at night you're working out are you good yeah I think I've closed enough of enough of my tabs built solely the gram 14 doesn't have a 16 Oh gram 14 doesn't have a 16 gig SKU available even though it just has a sodium slot so what I was planning to do was take the gram 15 and the gram 14 swapped the sodium and then kind of you know whistle and walk away kind of thing because I really like the 14 I don't need the number pad and I find the screens big enough this is what I've been using as my daily driver lately actually but I've just been lazy and what is this what oh it says I'm angry about video games oh okay okay okay I thought you I thought it was a lead-in to no it's not not having enough RAM for all my pad model where is what okay all right all right what do I wanted to start with which which witness area is the most important fisting or we can talk about AMD so people are like wow that's crazy and then we can talk about lpx and so people won't be as upset about about us screwing them yeah look I love it okay thanks you got it you're gonna take this pole with a grain of salt because Zee me Oh bless his or her heart I don't know if the mule is a dude or a gal but gmail is not probably the world's most objective observer when it comes to AMD and Intel it's kind of like expecting good bytes on the forum to say something anti microbiome I guess yeah yeah we're not calling you guys fanboys because we don't know if you're male huh we never have to worry about Microsoft News showing up on the forum though because it will always be there any websites we'll make sure that it is there that's right yeah we appreciate actually all the anti Mike are all the anti AMD and Pro Intel news and pro Microsoft news that we can rest assured we'll make it into the tech news section of the forum alright so the original article here is actually from tech power up and in a nutshell what it appears as though AMD is doing in that when you install their 17.4 dot for driver it appears that with a bitly so we did talk about this last week yeah so there's a quake champion you did yes that's how James told you that he came downstairs and asked me he's like did you talk about this last week and I was like yes he was like okay cook Lance wants it in the thing and I was like we totally why do we even want it you know what forget it no I quit no I'm not doing this podcast anymore all right well if you want to see Linus in person so that he can go okay you know what I quit and first no I want to talk I want to talk about this okay I want to talk about this because because I'm mad oh this is dumb yeah I think it stopped it oh they didn't I'm pretty sure okay then I'm over it alright fine let's talk about something else no I 100% sure but I'm pretty sure there's like almost no notes so but I if I remember from last week they were like oh wow we didn't realize how much do you guys would care if we were ridiculously annoying and put bloatware on your computer right and I pulled it I think that's what happened all right let's talk about LTX so basically if you were thinking to yourself gee these guys aren't annoying enough over the Internet I like to be annoyed in person and you need you need to have Karen explained about macros and hotkeys in person then this is the event for you are we doing the dunk tank thing I have no idea so basically it's kind of this half-baked uh Wow sort of condom ad on it right now well okay okay okay okay okay do you want me to okay so you want me to talk about the half-baked stuff first or the cool stuff first I mean let's get the half-baked or the way okay we started so it's half-baked in the sense that it's two months away and we haven't actually locked down a single sponsor for the event yet okay all right is the idea behind it we're actually red so so there's not half-baked stuff we are actually renting an arena so then as far as I've heard yeah there will be a small-sized kiddy pool without anything in it and a ball pit so will be at least that good there will be at least that okay and it'll be in an arena yeah some people will recognize that room um but like the arena is really expensive so in addition to admission and we actually can't even fit that many people we're limited to somewhere in the neighborhood of like yeah there you go so just over a thousand people because we can't really use because it's in like a medium so we can't really use any of the seating because there's nothing that you would really sit there yeah yeah like me like maybe we could have a few rows out of people just want to go sit down but like not the idea and there's but and there's also going to be like like potentially maybe like a lounge that you could do that okay yeah yeah yeah but but basically it would be like the size of a hockey rink down at the bottom of what is actually a hockey rink if this was so if it's not ready and we don't have sponsors and stuff yet yeah why wouldn't we have just pushed it out um because we want to do it in the some where and also if we didn't set a deadline doors if we didn't set a deadline we just never do it that's also fair yeah so we decided to set a deadline that will almost definitely happen so what is so the question burning in everyone's minds is probably what is a tech carnival yeah it's a cross between a con like a AB convention vention I was thinking I had conference popping in perhaps is not a conference cousin runs a combination between a convention oh yeah we also have meetup in there so see Meetup it's a convention it's a meetup make a carnival yeah so it's the vision is this we wanted to do something that's a little bit different and so I kind of went you know what was fun when I was a kid carnivals the school carnival the fundraiser carnival this is good okay yeah no that's right yeah they were it would be like stupid like gambling games but not for actual money you just get like we do whatever those but themed to computer stuff so the idea is that every manufacturer who wants to partner with us to sponsor a booth they don't actually have to pay a ton of money like in the grand scheme of things compared to what they would be accustomed to for a convention like booth space because the booths aren't going to be that like amazing or anything they're just going to be centered around these carnival ideas so some of the ideas we have is we want some kind of a gaming manufacturer to come in and equip Edie and a competitor of who presumably would wait in line to take him on and you have to beat at it csgo yeah and there might be some kind of a leader very hard he's good or it would enter you into some kind of a draw in order to have a chance to win something really cool that would be provided by that manufacturer other ideas include things like we want a case guy to come in and with how many cool people there are in the case industry we're pretty sure this is not going to be a problem but we want a case guy to come in and sponsor the case toss so again it would be like a leaderboard type thing and we take maybe the top five people throughout the course of the day obviously it's the kind of thing that would be pretty funny to watch people taking computer cases and basically shot-putting them as far as they can yeah no the idea is just good kind of pure fun goofing around maybe there also be some demos from some cool tech like that case manufacturer might bring a couple to not throw so you could maybe look at their latest cases maybe um and then the LMG staff all of us I believe we've called like an all-hands-on-deck thing one it's not gonna make it well the one that doesn't work here oh oh I don't know so although he might okay so most Linus Media Group staff will be there so if you wanted to I mean honestly one of the ideas for a booth that I was honestly thinking of was Karen tutoring people in Premiere I could totally like if I went to a convention I would definitely stop by there I don't know if I'd say there the whole time because I'd be like wow I want to go do other things eventually but like yeah but like but like if you could do like like a like a three-hour thing or I'm like take questions every like half an hour or something one idea I had was he could actually be editing an LTT video throughout the day on new girls quick and you could just ask questions and we wouldn't expect them to necessarily even finish it that day because he'd be interrupted constantly yeah but that was another thing that I thought might be kind of like a cool behind-the-scenes thing that would otherwise be impossible to experience yeah so I would I would like that I think that's cool that's the tech carnival it's 30 bucks for a pass and then 75 if you want a special edition lanyard a t-shirt and a 6-month floatplane Club membership for one week of early access oh I don't have that screen show hello or their commute these are Canadian dollars so yeah so that's basically like 22 US dollars or something like that and then like 60 bucks 60 bucks u.s. and that's actually a pretty good deal if you were going to get floatplane anyway because it's three bucks a month times six is eighteen dollars a t-shirt I don't know what's that worth 20 bucks anyway we think the the big package we think the big package is kind of the one to go for so there you go that's the explanation I'm going to go look twitch chatham like cringing because I'm pretty sure hey cold never even sold me tickets yet yeah call me we have ready go he went upstairs but we have sold tickets oh we have i know roughly how many but i don't know if we wanted to say that or not sure yeah by not about a hundred oh really yeah let when i don't know oh within the time the video went up and now oh because we posted oh we posted it on social and uh yeah ha ticket sales how are we doing is anyone coming yeah 150 now oh so people are coming then alright the really big one have we sold the the $500 VIP experience oh we think getting sold on that one okay okay that's cool go figure every time that we've done one of these things like with the first blood campaign way back in the day and with the forum badges that were like custom form badges yeah we've always had a every single time exactly $500 tier that was just like ridiculous didn't really the first time especially we really didn't expect anyone to buy it and for some reason someone does every time every time so we were like okay sure this time though we were trying to come up with something that's a little bit cooler than like I mean the dab is actually like like pretty bad algae and you can't get them anymore some people that do happen to have them are like they're the only ones who can get them so that's all like cool but we were thinking if you're going to be all the way out here this time that package includes a limo ride to the office and and a one on one well one on 10 I guess depending how many people get it there's max return yeah maximum 10 yeah so that I think that's pretty nifty I don't I mean you work here every day I'm sure you wouldn't pay for it like I wouldn't have paid for it anyways I'm really cheap you alright to me I would yeah I might get the one with the shirt because I like commemorative shirts I have a few packs shirts you get a lanyard - yeah alright anyway you know what I'd I mean I'd uh I never know what's going on around here anymore like I don't even know how to check how many tickets are sold but LTX good idea or bad idea okay so we're going full Animaniacs here okay those are the only options Wow are we abandoning turnip it's been a long time we're abandoning turnip okay yeah I'm over it all right Peter no rip turn it turn yeah turnips not funny anymore now that there's one in the sorry yeah forgot what I was talking about yeah okay so let's go ahead get those results up and move on to our next news topic okay AMD's stock price Oh more than 20% in a single that you know you know how close I was to investing in AMD when I saw how good Rison was going to be well maybe now you should well no because I was worried about a couple things so number one is I wasn't sure if that's in weight or animation yeah I don't know yeah because it's under embargo so even though it's not like that much of a secret there were like four hundred people in the room with me I'm not sure if that's still considered insider so I guess so if there's an NDA probably so I'm so but but what I could do is I could wait till the embargo is lifted then it's common knowledge and then I could just with superhuman speed I could I could buy a new sock like the second lid so I could skirt around that but the other concern was that I've avoided owning shares in any tech company this whole point the entire time that since we've been independent yeah so I did buy shares in Nvidia once and I held them for a couple of months actually made like a pretty good chunk of money but that wasn't based on a significant tip or anything it was just based on kind of like the ebb and flow and I was like yeah I really couldn't go any lower and then I did okay and I got out because it stresses me out yeah and then I made a few bucks on ocz back when they were like going gangbusters and I was like okay I'll go in four and I was in for like three weeks okay that's it all right that's all I've never gotten involved in but the thing is like I I worry that even if I disclosed it the number of people who think that I am that I can be I can be bought and that I can be biased by a graphics card I mean imagine what they would think if I owned shares in the company the one thing that I was thinking was that I could get around it by buying everything ha ha ha ha and just hopefully the tech industry just goes up yes yeah look if I'm if I'm just betting on that but then then okay you'd get the tinfoil hats coming in there he's just talking about how amazing tech is because it makes their money if the tech industry grows so I've just been like you know what as as far as as far as high-profile companies go anyway I'm just not going to get involved but that doesn't mean that I might not make some kind of investment in a tech company and that's actually something that would be like a private thing that I might might be closing soon so I would definitely be talking to you guys about anyway shares of AMD plunged on Tuesday following a first quarter report that failed to justify the stocks 300 percent gain last year whoops AMD reported strong results that were in line with expectations but hey that's the thing is like they still lost money like what were people expecting were they directing AMD to go from losing at what was it like 73 million in the last quarter last q1 and then they lost 29 million this time which is like a lot better but we're expecting them to go from losing 72 million to being profitable um but only losing 29 million dollars is still insane well yes like oh yeah um so they're still hope though rising processors had only been shipping for one month of the quarter and Vega is also slated for release sometime in q2 Naples that's where we might actually see some significant improvements if they manage to win some big bids with Naples and they managed to get some design wins and like super computers or whatever the case may be that could be a big deal and then rise in 3 processors are also slated for the second half of the year which could help boost up volumes significantly because value chips that is where you are going to be shifting units speaking of supercomputers I'm doing an unboxing of a supercomputer next week under ring I don't I don't know what to call it but basically this place is bananas what's up that thing am I going not that one I'm going to that one okay so we're also trying this isn't confirmed yet they've expressed interest and they're like yeah let's do it and then like it's the oldest the whole yeah let's do it radio silence yeah yeah but like they're into it but Luke and I want to go tour it turns out that d-wave the quantum computer maker the B quantum computer manufacturer is based out of Burnaby British Columbia yeah they're like not even remotely far drive away no it's like 30 minutes like I used to live there yeah so so we've talked to them about doing like a hands-on yeah with a quantum computer I'll be pretty cool that would be really excited it'll be dope as the kid says ah yes dank even dank know I thought dank is bad and aren't dank memes like outdated means no dank memes are like super good memes dope and dank are both good facepalm is still based on playback yes okay yeah yeah facepalm and so much hate so much hate is getting a little yeah I know I don't but I can say shake my head so everything H is still okay I just have to think it doesn't mean so much hates ya got ya got it no problem I'm on this I'm trying to I'm trying to keep on top of it I've got the Star Wars memes prequel means I'm on top of that good job Josh oh you're officially the worst sidekick ever most of them are like hello there Kenobi from G grievous don't worry about it it's fine it's fine fine alright the red arm evidently okay I'm gonna off suit for a second here sure I sent out V like emails to the people that were graded very highly for their resumes and stuff for the full plank oh and hey just later on memes you've got to be kidding I was reading a comment on your call for coders video that said that this platform is a disaster waiting to happen and no one would be stupid enough to apply oh there was a lot of those one people applied you've got to be kidding me a lot of people the huge amount of people applied it took me a really long time to go through all their resumes there's a lot of misconceptions as to like how we were building the platform a lot of people think that we're doing literally every single thing in node which is like extremely untrue I got people sending me like entire essays on how we shouldn't be transcoding video with node and a mic we actually already have that part working don't know where you got that from we're not doing that I don't know but yeah there's a lot of applicants who are really good at also a lot of people telling us that we're crazy to be trying to build okay we're a lot of hold on hold on hold on to be trying to build this object with one developer yeah and I love that you were getting labeled idea guy yeah what's it called it's called an idea man right where you have where you have like the idea for the next great social media platform only you don't know any coding okay so two things number one we would say anywhere in the video were hiring one person we already had number two we don't say anywhere in the video that we don't already have people yes and number three a little bit I'm not I'm not as good as the people I'm trying to hire that has been made abundantly clear because some of you are extremely good but I I can do I can do something knows more than me let's put it that way yeah I've been taking like refresher courses and stuff I'm not going to be the boss guy that doesn't know how to code I still get I get a little embarrassed by boiler sometimes when he's like okay this is how this works and were just like oh cheese but yeah I'm going to be taking more refresher courses and stuff we have mr. boiler cat boiler on the forums I'm going to call mr. boiler because cat boiler is like a little awful a little bit weird I mean he's a full-time employee has been for a while now he's been working on the project for like a little bit more than six months so didn't some work going on there that's another thing you guys you guys you guys won't be able to launch this for a year and a half okay we're good we're working on it there's other guys as well Colonel mortis from the forum has been helping a bunch and it's going to be helping more in a little bit from now I actually haven't sent a reply to that message but yes sounds good there you go we'll send a more formal reply later and there's like a couple other people that have been putting a lot of work into this there's also another guy that we're including a contract very soon for like a while and hopefully making him an employee at some point like you are not alone yeah so yeah it's going to be which was again infuriating and sort of hilarious because in the video I'm like you're gonna have to work with these people this whole list of people like why are you only hiring one person's like oh my goodness oh this is great this project is very naive this is coming from an experienced coder for six years oh man six years Wow I'm so impressed Wow okay here's the other thing that people don't really seem to understand what the project is this project is already working yes people are so concerned because boilers are gone people are so concerned about the financial model the project is already really working yeah and there's like a lot more that we can do we're gonna be okay yeah like a lot of people were like genuinely concerned that we were gonna like God that we were going to hang on oMG take on YouTube that is not and that we had gone crazy this is not the goal oh we want to be like this cool add-on so that during these uneasy times of weird ad revenue and like issues that people are having with their channels that can have something a little bit more stable that they can stand on and still push as hard as they've ever pushed to grow their YouTube audience because that will be no matter what I say our try will be their main platform and we wanted to be their main platform because the more they grow that the more they will hopefully also grow their floatplane audience okay so let's totally change gears and I don't know if I'm allowed to do this but I think I'm gonna do it anyway I need to get a screenshot of that guy saying it's naive I've been I've been screenshotting a lot of people's aggressive comments not in like a while I can try to look up their user names and go like hey so what do you think okay do you guys want to see premiering on the wind show this trailer have you seen this I have seen it I haven't seen you haven't seen them know you're doing trailer head dude okay hold on hold on I just I want to check and make sure the audio is working I don't have my headphones here so I just want to make sure I'm on the right playback device and everything yeah so theoretically theoretically this is working okay all these people will see you before me because I can't even hear it Deepti the trailer for scrapyard wars season 5 oh my goodness hopefully the audio is working hopefully it's not too loud hopefully I don't have headphones I have no way of knowing well whatever it'll be it'll be uploaded at some point later but here we go here we go here we go I wonder what they're saying sorry dude wow we look so serious that's the $6,000 part oh yeah be pretty cereal the hype is real cool I hope I have no idea wait so we do mention the really expensive part in the world that we don't explain all apparently there's no audio oh I was in the same boat everyone's on the same boat as living you still have to what you still have to watch the actual trailer okay okay do it okay I can't hold on hold on hold on okay let's hit it with a straw pole hit it with a straw poll do you guys want to see it again with sound so why didn't it have sound actually you know what twitch ad just let me know do you want to see it again or like at all pre-recorded yes of course okay yeah okay all right all right all right around around around around her and I get the point I'm working on it okay okay so I'm just gonna throw it was beginning yeah stop stop ok the audio debut the audio is gonna be kind of crap because I forgot I don't have it set up properly right now but I'm just gonna hold this up to the microphone and we'll just have to call that good enough okay run away from the boy okay I'm sorry everybody I'm sorry everybody okay here we go here we go here we go we're going again we're going again hold on hold on okay pictures don't screen interesting yeah yeah oh don't know I got this I got this I got this I got this okay okay here we go oh wait hold on I'll get our ugly mugs out of the way okay oh why didn't my trackpad working okay okay ah here we go honestly the low points of yesterday we're yeah probably a fistfight feels like we haven't done anything like when we went to leave paint sandwiches which was delicious I don't regret that Kyle has some strategic he's working on right now screw you took today Jeff over the phone reasonable that seems like if we don't have another choice we're going to have to go for it so yeah so we have 45 minutes just get the out of here oh man so they don't know what might have cost us $6,000 no they don't um yeah so the hype the hype is super real I'm so excited here but this fist place I know the sound is not that great I'm sorry but uh yeah no profanity this this season is going to be a lot of fun we're doing it really differently on the post side of things you guys may or may not have noticed we filmed like a month ago yeah that was a conscious decision real actual like on a show work went into mapping out the episodes so the pacing is a little bit better than before and the idea is that the entire season will be pretty much cut and then every episode gets a week of polish instead of like expecting the entire episode to be edited in a week yeah cool nice that's good Danny I'm very good that's a pretty hype trailer man I know at this point I want to see boxing I haven't seen the other side yeah me neither I've no idea there's one thing that we know about that I'm not gonna spoiler because you guys just got enough spoilers I think that involves Kyle that I'm so excited I only heard about I know we've only like yeah like oh my good I'm as excited to watch this even though I part it even though I'll know half the story yeah is it ah it's crazy yeah alright I mixed hmm almost spoil it a little bit okay yeah I'll try before don't spoil it V judge okay to watch I have a crazy I have a crazy thing to ask you okay could it be in 4k on full plane oh why did you why did you do that on the street mysterious um probably not well I'll talk to boiler about it but probably not having been downloads be in 4k I think would be really brutal gotcha okay um I will talk to boiler wolf he's might even be watching right now sorry boiler I'm sorry boiler I'm gonna leave that completed don't okay I thought you're gonna do a straw poll no no I'm not only just for all poll to see if people want of course they want it even if okay even if there's no 4k drop-down option the 1080p looks from a 1080p we've so all my friends called me they told me slow playing 1080p looks as good or better than YouTube 4k we have a debt it's adaptive bitrate so like sometimes it almost always looks a noticeable amount better than YouTube's 4k but not technically always right depending on like what is going on in the video got it yeah all right so let's finally get back to that straw poll so okay actually that's interesting apparently the majority of our audience does seem to think that LTX is a good idea now with that said only 840 people voted which is really not that many for a LAN show straw poll so if we were to leave video if we were to add yeah it's up if we were to add people who are indifferent who would normally vote on a straw poll right and don't then the numbers don't look so good but I mean realistically how about people being indifferent about like PACs existing is a really high percentage yeah that's true that a really high amount of people go mmhmm mmhmm yes to be fair it's a very different type of convention yep whereas this is more like kind of like a casual like grow out and get together well some people so a lot of people in chat don't know what else is oh they weren't here at the beginning right LTX is Linus tech Expo Expo yeah yeah no it's not called Expo no it's carnival yeah don't worry about it helps LPC LPC I don't know but then that's a really weird I just got some someone walks into my office in like YouTube we call this I'm like yeah paipai huh see so I is a convention carnival thing that we're going holdin very close to here where everyone can meet us and do some cool computer related activities and maybe there will be some brands there yadda yadda so forth all right people I do that all John when you're not here oh really yeah I have to do the same thing I'm so pain enough glorious planted well I think I think the idea is you're right at the edge of the table yeah and so that this person naturally like floats to the edge of the table right okay that's not the right framing all right AMD and the original article here is from game debate calm no it's not in Seattle we live in Canada it's gonna be you know exactly where it is Langley Event Center yeah so it's Langley Event Center yeah in Langley if you live in like the Lower Mainland or Greater Vancouver area it's pretty easy to get to this RFI way okay so allegedly AMD's Radeon rx Vega specifications leaked in a Linux driver update dun dun da alright so this is a first update adding comprehensive Vega feature support to Linux now it was issued yesterday whenever that yesterday would have been so it depends when you're watching this but basically 14 nanometer 4096 stream processors 12.5 teraflops of performance and that's 25 at FP 16 okay 64 ROPS 256 texture mapping units eight Hardware threads a 2048-bit memory interface so that looks like some kind of HBM nonsense oh yeah there you go eight gigs of HBM - okay is this real I don't know maybe maybe not but uh it doesn't sound that far doesn't sound like one of those leaks that's just like made by name defend was put right sorry to give member Mama's like we saw their announcement NAB diners will consumer card yeah no we're still trying to get one of those duel cards but I'm still not sure if we're going to be able to because it's like not consumer Nvidia like it's funny both AMD and NVIDIA are kind of funny about some cards like in video won't even respond to my emails asking if we can borrow a Titan X P P you could just say no like and then the other station ends is in report Facebook oh yeah okay I'll try that yeah okay this is great news so the original article here is from nine to five Mac I love this because how bullcrap is it when you buy something and it breaks like right away no fault of your own you take it to the store or worse yet the manufacturer where they have no excuse and they give you a refurbished part it's free and it's pretty freaking annoying I'd be pissed off personally like if I paid for it bought a new one yeah and it was in great condition and I'm someone who cares about my devices and if this one's got like even some small scratches on it like okay yes functionally it's probably the same and you're sharing I want to talk to anyone who will go nuclear of our small scratches but I'm not even saying that insulting way like this this will piss people off example one of them right and the thing about Apple devices they're expensive yeah very expensive enough that like a lot of times they're show pieces so scratch having scratches on it is like that's right yeah I mean it's not a shovel how easy do you think it would be to imagine someone out there who's iPhone cost more than their car yeah like I probably know someone there you go at one point in time I definitely knew something and and the way people would freak out about a scratch on a car remember that okay I think as techies we get really caught up in specs sometimes yeah and how much RAM iPhone has and how big the screen is and whatever else and we lose track that for the mainstream consumer it is a fairly normal thing to spend a lot of money on stuff for the sake of demonstrating to the people around you that you could have afforded to spend a lot of money on something a case in point Yeezys okay I didn't even I I didn't even hear about Yeezys till like three months ago yeah I had no idea they were a thing I had even I'd even skimmed over the what's inside Yeezys video that got them so much hate and I was just like yeah okay not interest like I just kind of went by it I was like a lot of you think yeah whatever and what I discovered is that like my badminton group there's multiple people there and now by Yeezys used like they'll leak they'll be trolling the used market for Yeezys buying them for like four hundred dollars like keeping them in like as good condition as they bought them in and then selling them for like a bit more like they're like they're like turning a small profit on their Yeezys so they can afford the easy lifestyle and I'm trusting it what what my shoes cost like a hundred dollars have four places in each shoe in the identical spot on each shoe where there is very large significant trips head and I'm not going to replace them that's not going to happen how many times do you think I've replaced my sandals since you met me I think once and it was because like they were in critical damage yeah they came apart yes and want to hear something really crazy I still have those you think sit by the back yard so I have huge to throw on when I go outside the white runners that I had when we first started working together are I think in the front of this office as like just in case Channel super fun shoes nice yeah yeah see that is the way to be alright speaking of dirty dirty people that are going to jump into our anyway sorry we never actually talked about this oh so a Dutch Court rules that Apple cannot supply refurbished or remanufactured iPads as warranty replacements it's also in the chase what the bleep is a easy hahaha you're the winner there you go um okay so Apple refurbished products are ones that have been sold and later returned to the company they're returned to as new standard and given the same warranty as brand new devices and they are either used for warranty replacements or made available for sale - typical discount of around 14 to 15 percent remanufactured are newly manufactured but may include used parts harvested from broken ones so neither of them are considered okay now there are multiple angles on this there's a kind of an environmental perspective I guess but personally I don't really buy that you know Apple is protecting the environment by giving remanufactured devices offer more of them at a 15% discount yeah a lot of it is the the status symbol or maybe drop your discount a little more yeah a 20% if Apple was like look this is remanufactured 50% off they wouldn't be able to keep the mineral block it's not a matter of like they're you know they would have to manufacture more iPads and destroy the earth it's just a matter of them not wanting to do yeah um okay I believe I do I respond yeah yeah so one of the chat said just put a case on it and like I agree spend 15% less and get a case on it or buy it new have it break not your fault and get a new one again but you got to understand that not everybody feels that way some people are going to want to rock a naked red or jet-black iPhone to show that they've got the red one or the jet black one people probably don't pose like this with the jet black ones problem were like probably businessí stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah you got it what would a Steel Panther or something I don't know that is old-school Panther it's from some movie where the guys like a model and he has this like pose that he strikes oh but then he just 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the gift directly through Steam or attach it to an email through the client if you weren't friends with the giftie in the service with the changes you cannot store gifts for future use so you just when purchasing a game you already own you're forced to choose a recipient of the gift at the time when it will be delivered so like immediately sending games through email is now impossible and it is now possible it is possible however to schedule a game to be delivered months in advance which is possibly how people can like pre-order things I'm not entirely sure or so you can like pick a gift for someone yeah have it scheduled and have it show up at the right time it's pawn payment collectors have often used steams gift inventory to store and trade copies of delisted Steam titles that's possibly why this is a thing these changes will also affect users who trade and self themed gifts on third-party websites that's probably why they're doing it yeah gifts you have already stored will not be affected so tell me something if you were to buy a steam game for someone else would that be an animated gift no I made a gift I know yeah I'm sorry I don't really have anything to contribute to that I mean it sucks but I understand why they're doing it yeah so there's not really much to say it's just like more hoops to jump through in order to give something to someone sucks but I see why they're doing it yeah okay is there like is there a reason for so many of you guys have been asking to meet the new writers oh well um I I guess I'm kicking you out for like five minutes oh I didn't see you like but that's only two of them yeah okay I know it's fine so their probation officially ends um tomorrow so I've decided that you know while it might seem a little cruel normally we don't allow people on camera during their probation because you know we don't want you guys to get all attached to them and then we end up kind of axing them so while it might seem a little cruel to finally let them meet you and seem as though I am validating their futures here as employees to only like acts in the next day I'm gonna let them meet you so I was gonna say like if they do bad on the show you could still fire that's true I still have I still have about 36 hours so uh who's first yeah so well okay you don't have to be one by one I guess okay well then get get in here the framing is only so wide though so you're gonna have to kind of I'm gonna have to cut an ear yeah I would need to do one by one okay so this is James James is a James is a young man with a whole dog's a great future ahead of him not at LMG why do you look like you're so much taller than me I'm like : size on this thing Oh cuz the chairs Luke sighs anyway okay come on in here so tell them about yourself who the hell are you well I'm James I'm I'm the punny guy here I guess I'm the one that makes all the worst puns in all the videos you're agreeing I think it's a mantle that I kind of took from you so I wasn't sure that you're going to hand that off I'm totally cool with making you the pun King not that I would ever not that I would ever want you to feel like I'm punking you Oh way to punch me below the belt yeah yeah okay so basically James has been responsible for such recent projects as the LG 5k monitor the nays are mic underwater mic the underwater mic an upcoming RGB build guide project that we're going to be filming next week oh snap it's going to be dang KS thought that was a surprise um okay people shouldn't be surprised yeah they should you be going right or a while admit it yourself yeah what else what else have you even done is that it yes I've only had three videos three assignments the entire time how crabs in here okay well that's awkward yeah so I did the air pause video I did the you did not I do know one of the air pods videos cheap air pods alternatives I did the digital storm gaming ultra-wide mm-hmm okay so yeah thanks good job James so you'll see James around more at least for the next 36 hours okay Anthony you're up next sure oh yeah if you guys have questions for them fire up our them over to Luke James isn't actually running away yet maybe they'll all come in so Anthony I want to talk about yourself who are you your chess I am Anthony I come from Newfoundland and I read about things so this is the result of me giving them like hard word count limits they end up they end up losing track of how to communicate in long form dang it man okay so what have been some of your favorite projects that you've worked on uh as much of a pain as they were the AMD releases okay we like the riser release the rx 500 series really tight deadlines on those but we got it out thanks AMD yeah so much fun every time an AMD project lands on my lap I just know that I'm in for like the next couple of like 24 or 48 hours it's just going to be wonderful yeah also responsible for the highly controversial Rison 5 simulation project not the titling of it that was me but the actual data that ended up being extremely accurate that was Anthony so there you go you'll be seeing more of Anthony around now as well maybe even on Channel super-fun since these guys are are officially I mean a few of them have appeared already anyway but I kind of turned a blind eye because I was pretty sure they were going to make it but you'll see more of Anthony soon and all right Alex you're up cheetahs are fired ok ok can you introduce yourself with your new sea accent because it's awesome I don't have any fee accent I'm not even from there he's actually from there ok whatever your eastern Canadian accents all sounds the same to me like what do you mean you did it on the phone during your interview don't pretend you can't do it I don't know I don't have to prolong small like that oh come on I don't know like really yeah yeah I don't know what like it like why are you talking about like okay so this is Alex Alex what who are you um I don't know I came from Nova Scotia slash Newfoundland and oh my god Colton's coming down car [Laughter] take you LeBaron car I don't get it but anyway uh what are they saying they want to know if you race NASCAR but that actually leads well into something that you do do yeah I used to build dune buggies and stuff and now I'm here I guess I I wouldn't say I dropped out of mechanical engineering but I stopped going before I completed it and now I'm making YouTube videos so you know oh yeah go ahead no more unis including some of our most controversial videos so Alex has been responsible for a lot of our system stuff including the latest XPS 15 the msi trident they're super tiny PC and the sketchy heatsink series including the most recent effort with the the casting and the and the 60% of a workweek of like three employees that got consumed by that by that video yeah that um I kind of knew how I was going to turn out right from the start if I'm honest oh well that's good honestly that's new I know no one told me out I was going to turn out so that's great well I don't know like you said that you modeled this off and talked here have you ever watched when they try to do something legit like would you have preferred that we made something that was like half terrible or all the way terrible I'm not going to answer that question because I'm afraid of what I'm going to end up with in the future Alex was also responsible for our most controversial video other than the Verizon simulation one in the last little while few thousand dollar build guide that went up the other night a lot of people didn't like your part selections there no comment so basically what I'll say is this we knew that that build wasn't perfect because right at the time that we were like okay we need to get build guides back on the rails and we like got a thousand-dollar build guide going AMD drops the news on us that rise in five was like coming but it was so far out that we already had some stuff like coming in for the build guide and so it was too far to stretch it out and then working with these guys and traveling so much has been really busy we didn't get it shot until like by the time we got it shot the 580 was not out but was about to be announced to us we didn't know it was coming yet and raiven five probably was going to make more sense but it was too late and the selections for that were picked in like January pretty much mono will be back it was after you started so it's like March like early March late February or something like that so the reality of it is could we have done better yes but I also think that a lot of the hate was undeserved we had one thousand dollar budget build guide in the title that meant one thousand dollar budget not one thousand dollar budget build guide we did remove the word budget because I can see where the confusion came from but it was a thousand baller machine and it was $1000 based on what we won't do next time but based on regular pricing like not the cheapest one we could find not taking advantage of mail-in rebates and just like what you could definitely build for $1000 yeah the no rebates thing actually adds up fast yeah well the other thing was that by the time we were shooting it neither of us was really in a position to go okay we're going to do a build guide it's going to have risin 5 this platform is rock-solid but by the time it got edited reisen has matured a lot yeah so that's what happened there that's why he's not fired thank you Alex so Luke did you have any questions that people compiled you guys went on I'll kind of pile in here and spend here literally nothing literally no useful questions brilliant thank you everyone a lot of people wanted to keep Alex and then it came out that he was responsible for the dollar bill cut and then the tone shifted a little bit oh oh ok but then after the explanation I think it got a little bit better again okay all right good work all right thank you guys cool so you'll see him around as well all right so yeah that's basically been what I've been up to for the last six months in addition to covering his ass because he's been busy creating slow-playing Club for a it is actually interested in leaving Austin Rivers like half a year yeah it's actually been an exhausting four and a half years is what it's really been yeah but yeah that's an entirely separate thing all right what else do we have oh there was also by the way I should mention there was also a lot of requests for drop and break stuff girl Oh max max is on vacation so I'm just permanent vacation Oh wrecked she doesn't know it yet that's a little me know she was on vacation she she had a pre booked thing and she too even though she doesn't technically have vacation time yet we arranged her to be able to go on her thing cool alright so the surface laptop aimed at students weight I was last week's news wasn't it hold on I thought why is this the source for wait what's going on here I thought this was I thought this was rumors about oh no the surface laptop oh yeah okay so it's a thirteen and a half inch laptop featuring the Microsoft 3x2 aspect ratio the pixel since display it's got one USB 3 port mini DP Wow would have really preferred to see that as a as a type-c USB with wif DP it's got a headphone jack though so that's a plus magnetic power connector it's 2.76 pounds so it's pretty darn light and it's got a magnesium body with a fabric surface palm rest area that's a terrible idea in theory but I we will be getting one so I will get my hands on one soon it's available in several colors there's some like sint fabrics that might do okay yeah it but the way with the way that like hand oils can burn away metal I'm not holding up a lot of hope yeah umm the OS is the new Windows 10 s edition which stands for school and this version of Windows that can only run Windows Store apps so basically um enjoy so school so that you don't get to learn how to use a lot of really important applications yeah windows s can be converted to Windows 10 Pro however okay alright the keyboard area is the same felt material from the surface pro also are horses you just feel good edge and Bing will probably unless you go into pro so specs you can get a core i5 or i7 u series processor up to 16 gigs of lpddr3 up to 512 gigs of storage and it boasts 14 and a half hours of battery life starting at $9.99 ok dollars and you have to use edge and bing so your thoughts are not great your thoughts are this is not much of a Chromebook competitor yeah ok then do you have any counter arguments I'm really I okay so there's things that I already hate about it like a laptop so with the surface pro the thing about it is that it's a tablet I don't expect the keyboard to be used all the time I don't expect it to experience the same kind of wear that a laptop so I accept the fabric on the keyboard surface or this I'm not sure this remains to be seen so I at that price I don't personally think that the Chromebook is is being threatened in any significant way but no store apps like not everyone that goes to school only needs to use word like there's some there's some things for STEM fields that you might want to have apps that probably aren't on the Windows Store for so limiting school laptops to only the Windows Store sounds like limiting school laptops to making money not living school laptops to school there is one app that I download from the Windows Store planks okay why not the server yeah yeah just because that's the plex client for Windows oh yeah you can't just go download it not to my knowledge maybe you can but I mean the the Windows Store one like works like Plex you should let people if you don't already yeah but people just downloaded right I could be wrong it's just that I'm not one of it better definitely the easiest one to find so I just I use it and it works it works fine with that set I've been having an issue with Plex where you know I probably won't get into that hey guys anyways oh this is good this is rich posted by mr. meerkat on the original articles from PC gamer Intel Pels core i7 7700 K owners to stop overclocking to avoid high temp it's like they don't want to be popular yeah so owners of Intel's Core i7 seventy seven hundred and seventy seven hundred K processors have been complaining for the past three months of unusual temperature increases of up ninety degrees Celsius I'm assuming they mean of up to ninety degrees Celsius and not the temperature increase like the total gap goes to ninety degrees Celsius and also that's pretty close to the maximum threshold of a hundred degrees and you don't really want your processor to run at ninety all the time so basically Intel's response we don't recommend running outside the processor specifications like exceeding frequency or voltage specifications or removing of the integrated heat spreader I mean it's frustrating because like intel creates this problem for themselves by marketing a que unlocked in overclockable cpu and then putting in sufficient Tim on it so I don't really feel that bad for them not really a different problem solve either yeah well it might be difficult but for reasons we might not necessarily understand like it it may be difficult to solder that for some reason I don't really know if I I said may really really really strong emphasis on me yeah well we can't say not a it's not difficult it might be something difficult about it oh this is interesting Ultra HD blu-ray disk encryption has been cracked sword so the original poster on the foremost Herodias and it seems to have come from this reddit thread so Smurfs 2 is apparently the first cracked 4k blu-ray disc and you might be able to get it somewhere I'm not going to spend too much time on the art pantry you guys I accomplished by cracking the encryption on the drive itself and not through like stripping HDCP with capture method which is actually pretty intense Wow yeah that's crazy yeah so that means you would need a specialized to drive and yeah like it milk it also means that you could do it to all of them though okay so hit me with this piracy groups they care about they care about like putting their name on like a release so and like taking credit for it why like is that there's no commercial benefit to that right it's rip its rap yeah ah like we did this yeah so they wouldn't so so okay so let's say I think hypothetical piracy group creates a master drive that can read and and and rip any blu-ray so do they actually go spend their money to go buy blu-rays to rip them and release them like rep and do they not share their their encryption braking method so other people can load it on their Drive so they can have all the rep it sort of depends which group I would assume because some groups might be like open-source bumpers where they think that there shouldn't be any encryption or anything uh-huh and they want everything to be open you know in that sense they would open up how they broke the drive share and then also use the drives to break a whole bunch of stuff uh-huh or they're just like yar har pirates and they're like we want to be known as the best freakin pirates ever cool okay got it I'm assuming yes these things okay let's talk about the sort of the starcraft source code so this was originally hosted by a res Coughlin akov on the forum and this article on Mashable gets a couple of things right so they've got that there was someone they've got that something was found they've got what it was the original Starcraft source code and they've got right that Blizzard was involved you know there was definitely a shower that occurred but it was not gifts nope so this is actually insane so back in 2000 a disc containing the starcraft source code was stolen from Blizzard forcing them to start from scratch a month ago a random Reddit user Kemp chemist key mice bought a bunch of Blizzard crap on eBay including a disc labeled Starcraft gold master source code Kenneth handed it to Blizzard and received hit me with this and I'm gonna okay I'm gonna look I'm gonna start as excited as I would be about what kind of reward I might get this is like are you taking it out of the box essentially right any hands off you doesn't he handing it to you like well no you're receiving it no no your Blizzard you're getting you're giving stuff to me oh you're giving me the thing I'm giving your thing I'm like okay I am okay I'm like I'll give you the box back you start opening it at the very top it's a copy of overwatch then there's some overwatch and Diablo swag then there's 250 dollars in blizzards store credit then there's a free trip to Blizzcon and then there's the bottom of the box and the box is like thin and not very nice and it's just general gray cardboard it's not like a cool one-off branded box okay so here's the thing the diskless stolen-property yes it is the property of blizzard and chemists had no business no right keeping it yep but what the disc also was was for someone who let's say for example was enough of a blizzard nerd to be buying Blizzard paraphernalia on eBay it was an utterly unique item oh yeah it was illumise an incredibly cool piece of Blizzard paraphernalia that would have had aside from the monetary value incredible sentimental value sentimental value that goes way beyond what would you even buy with two hundred and fifty dollars of Blizzard store credit some skin skins get real okay maybe some months of Wow some overwatch in Diablo swag you couldn't even scrounge up some Starcraft swag and a trip to Blizzcon which is like okay but what he or she should have gotten is something utterly unique something retro something that goes way back to like that weird game Blizzard made where you like shoot chickens or something or like do you know about that game I don't think so that's when I probably heard the name when I saw a Blizzard logo on it when I was like it's like ancient yeah I was like well I used to like one of the really old games lost Vikings anyway a great game what he should have gotten they shouldn't have even given him money because I go or her that's not what this was about they're buying this type of stuff that's probably not a huge concern it should have been a frickin life-sized gold and okay like a statue and like a tour yeah their facilities it should have been way cooler blizzard you done goofed on this one he's a huge Starcraft fan if they have any like game designer some Starcraft like have them meet up with him at Blizzard care cuz the thing that local say about these game companies is they have this crap they build this crap all the time for cons and stuff like I guarantee you there's a life-sized Kerrigan somewhere yep somewhere is go in blizzards office there's a life-sized Kerrigan or failing that a Hydralisk or something oh well I'm going to the chat is like they should have released wild legacy servers for his efforts that would have been pretty cool yeah I cared that would have been unrelated though yeah so um there you go where disappoint but maybe you guys disagree I don't I don't think that's even remotely fair like looking at just pure monetary value of what he got if he just flipped it on eBay okay sorry I'm just I'm cringing so hard at the switch comment I have to I have to I'll get into I'll get into it later go ahead go ahead yes the only place code and has ever existed but uh you'd like just pure monetary value of the stuff that he got is worth way less than if he just reflect it on eBay yeah which is like again again again he should have given it back it was a stolen item but like what Blizzard just should have recognized the appropriate response to this yeah and of this is terrible uh so Pierre ownage who must be like old-school internet enough to know what Purim is unless you just don't and you just like read it somewhere or just Roberts - plays Wow he knows about Gul'dan ball dancing warcraft orcs and humans yeah well Ben's like og Warcraft gold bands like a pre big deal I mean the lore has changed somewhat like gold Ann's role in everything and like and like the funny thing is that's great about older movie was weird for that yeah so if you guys remember I never watched it I go yeah I heard the thing that's weird about old old games and Warcraft was a great example of this where every unit on both sides orcs and humans was equivalent so a grunt was exactly identical to a footman or I don't even know if they were called footman in Warcraft orcs and humans but whatever the spearmen was exactly identical to the spear thrower or were they Archer whatever it's not the point the point is the campaign's were identical so even though the lore was that the orcs like kick their butts if you play the human campaign I don't just met have even died like I don't remember but there's like there's like events that are just not right because the missions are identical yeah down both paths so I think on the orc side you like dull bands gone crazy and you have to go kill him and on the human side yeah Madame does die on the human side that it goes crazy and you have to kill him it's just like totally equivalent stuff but yes no I know people in or some humans they didn't read anything out yet you had to get to read the text right there wasn't voice acting um oh yes all voice acting yeah yeah okay so he's saying Medivh wrong because of that I don't know he doesn't play well oh yeah then that first is your point yeah I only I only know who thank-you Medivh is from Warcraft dorks until you read it and it looks like motive yeah sorry alright there was a couple comments no read it says yesterday I got another call they invited me to Blizzcon all-expense-paid dinner and drinks with the staff okay so that's okay I still would have wanted to uni so they probably did that because everyone was like what or maybe they planned it let's give benefit of the doubt but they still should give him a life-size Carrigan I'm not going to be happy till he has a life-size Carrigan you should be able to like pick yeah pretty much whatever character yeah life-sized any character yeah alright that's great I love this okay ah Matt whatever Oh King Oh for you're officially my favorite how young is Linus that is the way to ask that question and I'm 30 years young Thank You old and it's a weird way of saying that I know it's such an insecure like yeah halfway as some institutions you say old when your who's your daddy yeah just at that mentioned something that I plan yeah one of my buddies was like opening up a badminton Center when when we moved in here and decided we didn't want the couch there he needed a couch and funny story he happened to have bought one of that exact couch oh wow and was going to go back and get another one when I was like yo do you need a couch someone that's pretty fantastic sometimes life is funny
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