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AMD's 64 CORE CPU!! - The WAN Show Nov 9, 2018

2018-11-10
and we're live it's when show time again welcome to the best show that takes place on Friday afternoon on this particular channel that's all that's yes I mean I wouldn't compare it to anything else because nothing else is really quite like the land show um so I have a special co-host this week and the story behind this is actually a good one so Alex here has actually worked at Linus Media Group for the better part of almost like two years now it's all right no yeah yeah pretty close Wow so this will be your two-year like annual performance review coming up next month yeah that's incredible so on his performance review will be a lot of good things like Alex has done a great job of our laptop content a lot of our more Makery content he installed the single most dangerous thing in our entire studio a few weeks ago CNC you don't agree that's the most dangerous thing in our studio probably not okay what's more dangerous other than Dennis with a power tool that doesn't count you don't get to just take Dennis Plus something and create something more dangerous than the CNC because you could just have Dennis on as the CNC there was that time when the laptop cart the like AC power screwed up and it was just like the whole laptop cart had AC power okay but I'm talking present-tense the most dangerous thing in our office that was pretty bad that was a bad thing anyway there's gonna be lots of good things but then we had him on to host an episode of tech linked a couple of weeks ago and so actually we the first time he did it was a couple months ago and I watched it and I was like okay yeah like you kind of warmed up more towards the end and you had your moments you had like some pretty brilliant moments like the intro I thought was great and I checked in I was like so you didn't realize the camera was on yet no slash didn't realize they were going to use it no I knew that you knew they were going to use it meeting anyway sure yeah anyway the point is there were these moments of brilliance and I was like okay there's potential here but you and I need to kind of meet about hosting style before before you do another one and then we did and then he was hosting another one and halfway through I was just like I think we're creating more pressure and more tension with me standing here and like trying to help you through this as opposed to helping so new plan you're gonna help co-host the wine show get a little bit more comfortable on camera and we're gonna go from there so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys this week what do you got what's your top picks for topics yes oh I didn't and now I wish that I really didn't sorry what what do you got AMD they have 64 core epic processors you might say there oh that's like two in a row that are brutal and oh I don't even see it here but there is more news about AMD that's just not great what news was that well they thought embargoed is it that's not something like we're working on that you overheard like me and Anthony discussing is it no oh okay as long as you can find an article that you can say throw that in the dock and we'll pull it up later but the rumors around raid AMD's Radeon rx 590 don't look particularly promising what does look promising is Samsung's promise to unveil flexible display phones moving forward we'll be talking talking about that a little bit and this doesn't look promising this is actually just more annoying than anything else Apple is apparently blocking Linux installs on computers equipped with their latest t2 security chip what are they trying to secure at this point okay sorry we'll discuss it in more detail later first the intro it works sometimes this intro was created back when we sat on a couch yeah like that and by the time we got rid of that couch it was disgusting because there would be times when we'd be hosting the LAN show on like a pretty warm afternoon the old office didn't have air conditioning and like even this one being out here in the warehouse during the summer like it it didn't have air conditioning until the very end of the summer this year we actually never got to turn it on I don't think you know we have air conditioning out here now right no I didn't know that yeah look there's one unit here and then there's one over on the other side the crappy air conditioning installers are the reason that our roof leaks right now oh I was kind of wondering what caused that yeah so you know fix one problem create another that's life for you right so anyway that back cushion I would usually put it behind me because the IKEA couch that we bought for the LAN show was sort of like not really the right proportions for me like the the Christians were just horrible from Italy okay I was being kind being kind so maybe they're not comfortable for anyone because Alex doesn't look like it right now cuz he's slouching a lot and here maybe it's more in his legs but he's a lot taller than me so if it doesn't work for me and it doesn't work for you it probably doesn't work for most people so I would always have this cushion behind me and I'm a bit of a back sweater so that cushion was never washed and for literally years once a week I would I would soak back sweat into it so it had like this kind of you know that musky smell that like attracts the ladies no not that kind of mask no the really gross mask looks out this week for those of you who are asking thank you for asking let's appreciate let's appreciate new-new Luke because James is new Luke so you don't get to be new Luke you're like you can be new James except that what you were hired at the same time alright what topic do you want to jump into you want to talk about AMD's 64 core epic processors sure they're 64 cores 7 nanometre awesome and this is why you were kicked off Tech linked so AMD is really really turning the turning that what are they what are they called thumbscrews yeah turning the thumbscrews on Intel that that's a torture device thumbscrews no not that kind of thumbscrews they just go in your case no no thumb screws are a thing hold on a minute no no we're gonna use my screen to Google it because okay thumb screws torture okay thumb screw torture thank you thumb screw there you go oh it looks horrible yeah I really don't want that on my mom's so it's bad so you twist you put the thumbs in there as my understanding actually here this one looks pretty brutal and then you twist this thing a wingnut and it I think just like shatters the bones and your thumb simple vise with protruding studs victims thumbs fingers or toes replaced in the vise and slowly crushed so that's what AMD is doing to Intel basically putting a lot of pressure on them right now to figure out how to respond to the onslaught because last year with the launch of their rise in processors and the launch of their epic processors AMD got competitive now it's starting to look a little more interesting it's not like it's not like watching an exciting horse race where you know which horse is gonna win but the other one is given or the old college try this is like watching a race where sometimes horse one wins and sometimes horse two wins so with Zen 2 we are expecting to see IPC improvements to the desktop chips meanwhile Intel hasn't managed to do anything other than bump core counts in the last couple of years and on the server side of things is remember this is where the big money is made this is where Intel has products in their lineup that cost anywhere between two thousand to ten thousand dollars per chip and we talked about like expensive consumer CPUs like when you're reviewing a laptop and I say okay it's got a 500 or $500 HQ are excused HK processor in it yeah you're going that's not a whole lot sometimes but in this a lot I think typically you would say that's expensive yeah okay I don't know if it depends you usually whine about them well yeah but that's not only because they're not cooled okay yes so in those cases you're paying the extra for it and you aren't getting extra performance because they run really quite warm and they end up FRA tooling but anyway so in the context of something like a fifteen hundred dollar laptop a five hundred dollar CPU is really expensive in the context of a server you know you could easily spend thousands of dollars on a CPU like they kind of start where the high-end consumer level chips end and the craziest thing about it is we're not talking you know Alex Clark and his one laptop and one desktop or Linus Sebastian his one laptop and handful of desktops we're talking gigantic data centers like what was that place you checked out how many CPUs did they have that six thousand @ly au @ly go right and so it was that six thousand CPUs or six thousand boxes with two CPUs each I don't remember exactly what is a whole bunch of blade servers that were set up with a bunch of Zeon's in them like I think they had a bunch of 24 and 16 core processors so in an installation like that you have 24 and 16 core processes so in an installation like that all of a sudden AMD is now competitive in the lucrative data center market and with epic I don't think anyone even AMD really expected their epic processors to come in and like immediately steal half of Intel's market share because the reality of it is that the data center market doesn't move that quickly the way that these products get validated is over a much longer period of time and the planning that goes on for these kinds of installations just means that even if AMD the world's best supercomputer processor today it is unlikely you'd actually see like an actual supercomputer built with them for another 12 18 or even 24 months that's the way that it works for those kinds of things so AMD got competitive when they launched epic and when they launched Rison now they're saying Zen 3 and Zen for our on track they demonstrated a 7 nanometer epic Rome codename Rome processor with 64 course and they've had some time for the industry to get used to the idea that they might want to plan on using AMD for these installations so you have to have the jab and the hook so the first one was the jab hey by the way we're here pay attention to us this is the hey you've got us in the back of your mind hey guess what it gets even better boom sixty-four core processor oh by the way did we mention we're cheaper oh by the way did we mention that we support these massive amounts of memory oh by the way remember all those PCI Express Lanes that we have and our competitor doesn't they're still there and I'm like I think that the real like Deadpool like a crotch to the face is the fact that it's also infinitely scalable like they can just ask Intel would say just glue on the course and just keep on doing it there was such a there was such a jelly vibe from that jab from Intel when they're talking about AMD gluing course together yes ok technically gluing course together is a more technical term than it sounds like but it's still it just had this like it had this salty vibe to it that they were just like kind of petulant about it like well their core they're CPUs aren't real because they're just they just got toothpicks and and bottle caps and glue when they put them together like that well they still are working pretty well so watch out in this context I think it makes a lot of sense because right now Intel is also just like putting two CPUs on a board yeah so that was on just Monday that Intel announced their 48 core Xeon which appears to be two CPUs on like on a substrate is that is that what it looked like I think so yeah you'll have to it's not a ton of details and I know it's actually didn't look that closely at it because it requires a new socket I think it has like 12 channel memory but it's my understanding again don't quote me on this I might as well just look it up for you korzy on but my understanding is it has 12 channel memory in big quotes multi-chip package yeah here it is okay so original article that is from a non tech and I'm basically gonna read it with you guys here scaling up to 48 cores per CPU oh no no no oh where did that mute button go oh wow wow I'm sorry everyone battlefield 5 blah blah blah yep here we go typical oh no that's a four socket something or other okay two socket system until yeah here we go so yeah technically there's these twelve memory channels but that's just because we are basically looking at two CPUs on a single package and then this is where it gets really crazy these things get a new socket that is gonna have hold on oh wow current 24 core platinum lines at 205 Watts we don't know what frequency they're gonna run at 24 cores per die PCIe lanes oh wait okay so PCIe lanes anywhere between 48 24 per die or 96 48 per die which again would be identical to just running 4 CPUs in a quad socket board I'm trying to find the memory channels it's just it's just nuts I wish I could find the socket socket server 12 DDR Channel wow that add played again as I scrolled back up whatever it doesn't really matter the point is this thing is redonkulous and AMD instead of launching like a new platform so new socket new chipset weird CPUs that are like actually more literally glued together AMD is refreshing an existing socket which like I said in the data center space in the enterprise space matters because these kinds of deployments take time to plan and just because they plan things over a long period of time doesn't mean that they leverage the most up-to-date components if the supplier has a roadmap that makes any sense so if AMD says okay look here's our epic platform here's our epic platform EP why see here's our epic platform here's the servers that are based on this oh hey we're a month from your deployment you haven't actually cut your Pio yet by the way we just doubled the core count or we have a higher frequency part that it's at the same price in the same TDP go ahead and check those in instead great whereas when you're rolling out an all-new platform well that for that would throws a complete Reggie you can't just swap that into a deployment it doesn't work that way so AMD looks to be firing on all cylinders right now and Intel is still yeah and it's already on what Amazon Web Services and ten percent cheaper than Intel based solutions and and while we're at it I guess AMD announces the Radeon instinct which seems like it should be awesome but I think it's mostly for blockchain and cryptocurrency so the instinct mi 60 and the mi 50 so these are aimed at the enterprise accelerator market but they M be looking to significantly improve their performance competitiveness in everything from HPC to machine learning so these would be the kinds of things that they would do at SF use supercomputers so researchers who are working on I forget what some of the examples of things that they were doing there were a bit and things like simulation like processing gigantic data sets those can be accelerated by GPU compute I what's the biology stuff that they do sequencing yep that kind of thing I mean we're just kind of guessing that's just what that space does I don't know how much market share Andy actually gained with their initial instinct processors but these look like an improvement so they got support for half rate double-precision up from 163 so they've got so this is especially useful for machine learning inferencing where a high precision isn't necessary okay oh no they have new low precision datatypes that's useful for machine learning inferencing where high precision isn't necessary and they're also able to get up to four times the performance of an FP 16 data type when using the smallest in for date okay okay so basically they've got some new some new modes that they operate in pretty much peak throughput of 7.4 teraflops FP 64 14.7 FP 32 so okay yeah I mean this is the kind of thing that won't have a lot of relevance to you and me necessarily at least if the rumors on the street are to be believed with respect to AMD's consumer GPUs so the original article is from WC CF Tech so we'll have to take it with a grain of salt that people seem to think we should take it with from my experience there rumor stuff isn't really any worse than anyone elses room or stuff like is it I don't know but apparently their third polaris GPU revision is coming and it's going to be called the RX 590 so wow it looks like they've even gotten their hands on the AMD confidential NDA required under embargo until oh there's this thing there that says comments I can't see what's under embargo till but this looks like an official AMD slide deck I don't even know why they bother having embargoes at this point well I don't even know why they bother calling it something new at this point making this GP if the rumors are true it has be based on two thousand three hundred and four cores compared to the Radeon RX 5 80s two hundred or two thousand three hundred and four cores yep so that's same number of course my DRAM does it have eight gigabytes compared to the eight gigabytes okay bus width is 556 bit compared to 556 okay and the name is 590 though that's that's a change that's a change that's an improvement it's slightly higher clocked okay so so what we don't know right now because we can see on that main title slide latest generation FinFET 12 that it could be going from 14 nanometer to 12 nanometer sort of because if it uses TSM C's 12 nanometer process that might actually be an improvement to power characteristics and performance if it uses globalfoundries 12 nanometer that's actually based very closely like it might even be a little disingenuous to call it 12 nanometer compared to the 14 nanometer process that AMD was already using on the RX 580 so do they have actually do they have leaked dye sizes here at all cuz that might tell us something interesting no they don't so what we don't know is if this 12 nanometer shrink is just giving us some better power efficiency do they have rated power power drop mmm no nothing leaked in power draw either so it's possible that these are just overclocked but I mean really this was all AMD could come up with to say to sell this thing latest generation FinFET 12 which quite frankly in my personal opinion should not be a selling feature that you put in front of a consumer does that seem fair yeah why does my cousin care what FinFET process you're using he's not going to what matters is how many FPS how many dollars I pay what cool features it has like you know automatic you know gameplay recording or special anti-aliasing modes or whatever the case may be or drivers that work yeah how many FinFETs it has doesn't matter okay selling point number two aggressive tuning for higher clocks so we already have that graphics card that's called the RX 580 OC okay enhanced idle and multi monitor efficiency that is a driver improvement and finally expanded options and robust partner designs so basically they're saying they're not making a reference card is that what that sounds like to you yeah cuz that's what that sounds like to me right so it's not impressed expected pricing is 250 to 300 us what was the 580 rate around there I think they should just call it the 580 ex and then we'll be like awesome they made a faster 580 good job guys instead of being like it's a 580 but now we're mad you know that is a really good point and it's actually not a video about an AMD product but we do have a video coming up about a product that is currently embargoed so I can't say what it is unfortunately which is really frustrating because it would make this story more interesting but basically we've got a product that we've got our hands on already and we've been testing and the manufacturer refused to disclose to us certain aspects of the specifications of the device and here's the stupid thing about it it makes me feel kind of disrespected yeah like we have it we can have ends in our hands and we can measure these characteristics it's not particularly complicated to do so so they're either disrespecting our competence because they don't think that if they don't tell us we'll be able to put two and two together here or they are disrespecting our time because now we have to invest time to measure something that they could have simply provided on a spreadsheet or they are disrespecting our thoroughness because they don't think that we're gonna bother to talk about this like there's no way that I can slice this and feel respected maybe they're disrespecting our viewers that's another way because they don't seem to think that they need the full story so why make it any easier to get there like can you come up with a way that not providing some speck of your product is respectful to your partners because that's what the media arm no I can it's just it's just baffling and that's what I honestly that's what I feel like a lot of these kinds of skews whether the 590 turns out to be what it looks like it might be which is just a rehash of the 580 but like maybe from a different supplier depending on what manufacturer they're using for the chips and this other thing that I'm talking about it just like these these rebrands it just feels like why even bother then why even seed us a unit why not just say outright we are trying to mislead the general consumer into thinking this is something new when it isn't actually do you think they're doing the 590 because they did the 580 whatever SP the they rebranded the 570 to be a 580 I really don't like what AMD is doing on their GPU side like I understand why they're doing it they're doing it because they got nothing it's like it's very obvious they just they got nothing and NVIDIA has new stuff that they are obviously planning to roll out and Andy's like well that's the way it works like when your competitor launches something you got to launch something so if we can't launch something new I guess we'll launch what we already got emeriti did that but at least they called it something different no that's what they're doing again there's no something different no the 580 did okay my understanding is the 580 was a different diet even though it was only slightly slightly optimized okay so actually a 488 all right all right listen 304 piney same thing oh wait when is the last time I am do you launched a new graphics card well they did Vega but yeah they don't exist really do they not like can you buy 56 on new egg like you couldn't during the whole mining thing like they were impossible to get but I don't really know why you would like you can get them in an iMac Pro yeah okay there's an ass rock there's an ass rock reference card on new egg there's a power color Mini that's pretty cool there are nano rows cool okay there's a handful of 56 is in stock but then okay let's take a pretty well known brand like XFX you could make the argument XFX is kind of to AMD what EVGA is to Nvidia at least you used to be able to they used to have like a lifetime warranty and stuff actually I don't think they do anymore anyway let's take some brand XFX and let's try to buy 10 of these and let's update our card how do you update your Kart update quantities and it's looking like that I know 170 s are considerably cheaper they've got no they've got 10 in stock though so apparently no they've got ok Newegg used to correct you like like here let's see cuz there's no way they have like 50 of these things yeah okay we have 49 overs in stock so apparently they're actually selling alright maybe we didn't give rx Vega enough credit or maybe they have 49 in stock because they can't figure out how to get rid of it the point is I don't like what AMD is doing on the graphics side of things but at the end of the day as long as they're kicking ass on one side of the business then it seems like they can keep surviving because for a while there it was graphics that was keeping them alive they're like okay you guys just just please just carry us dead weight CPU guys until we can until we can get Zen out and then and then you can rest all right ok so Apple blocking Linux installs yeah I just don't get it who cares like okay so the source was jido for 63 on the forum the original article hears from the register okay walk us through this what is going on here I have no idea and I don't understand why it would happen so they're blocking Linux that's all that I know I really felt like this article was addressed to me personally and I I realize now it's the other Lennis oh yes it's like whoa what because I was actually like seriously considering the MacBook Air until I realized that it doesn't have the quad core 8th gen processors which was I know linked to me actually our MacBook Air is not gonna arrive till Tuesday so you guys are gonna have to wait for our content on the MacBook Air but I was so amped on this thing because I didn't watch the keynote or attend the event I just got excited because like Apple was finally launching a new MacBook Air and I was like Alex because you want to do the review yeah I wanted it really bad cuz I thought the same thing Alex I don't think you're gonna get to do it because I think I might even use it as a daily driver like I'm gonna boot camp it I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna give mac OS a shot because I do every once in a while and then he gets he replies to me I think this is or something yeah I just like it's a dual core and I was like no no no it's AIT's gemser 8th gen core i7 surely they have a quad core option and no yeah we just found the stuff like why like everything like nah not this surface it's got all the Thunderbolt ports and it's all sexy it's got the battery life it could have finally just been we could have finally had the laptop we're both waiting for because like you're on the surface laptop and here you know what this is awesome 30 second review of that go ok best keyboard best screen because it's four by three overall just generally awesome no thunderbolt sucks ok like I'm not plugged in right now because no no way no can't do it right you'd need to DisplayPort to HDMI adapter up okay here I go with the razor blade stealth pretty good build quality pretty good keyboard nice big trackpad could be bigger okay display it's fine I guess has Thunderbolt so EGP you very nice mediocre battery life and I don't like the keyboard at all and he doesn't like the keyboard at all so we're both kind of waiting for something to be perfect and people are probably yelling right now that the Dell XPS 13 has all of that but I just don't like it yeah I don't know like I just open it up and the screens really small and you can only get like the 4k one and then everything's really crammed or you don't get touched and the honestly 4k displays on a screen that size make no sense because once you start scaling windows like 250 percent stuff does look kind of stupid like I I know that that's an aesthetic quibble and that's maybe not legitimate or whatever but either of us could use an XPS 13 and we don't so deal with it people are saying the gram don't qualities trash yeah well it's not trash ready good you don't like the 15 yeah but the 13 doesn't have thunderbolt and the 13 doesn't have thunderbolt this you know what though that new HP Envy that new the accident of sixty that we looked at in the writers meeting are we getting one I'm not sure okay tell you what let's just buy one if we can't get one all right okay so let's let's get one of those because do we agree that one looks promising it does yeah if the battery life is on point and the build quality I have yet to encounter an HP laptop keyboard that has lit a fire in my soul though that's the one thing I'm really worried about because for better like for better for worse you can make an amazing laptop you can make the perfect laptop and if it doesn't have a decent screen you will never sell it to either of the people sitting behind this desk right now did I say screen keyboard you did say screen yeah she is the main thing keyboard is key and touchscreen I can't just use like a non-touch screen anymore keyboard is key I was just trying to go past that come on I guess if the MacBook doesn't have a touchscreen but yeah actually touchscreen is kind of a big deal to me - all right one thing that we do do a lot that people probably don't know is the like teleprompter like the ghetto one where you know right you're kind of reflecting but yeah so will literally be like on location somewhere where is the last place that you and I did together I'm thinking of general fusion but I know we've done one since did we do that before or after the the trip down to SpaceX I don't I think we had a prompter at SpaceX yeah we did yeah hold CES um you know what we're gonna have to get back to this because we haven't done our sponsors for the show yet oh goodness sponsor number one is be quiet oh wow oh god complicated so I'm just gonna sit back hold on yeah sure this is ah the silent base 801 ooh I just pulled the filter off the front no no wait you're gonna hit the mic okay right there okay I'm gonna put that filter back okay cool it's really back it's backward so don't hit the mic don't the mic that little old boy did hurt everyone I know right it's backwards okay tell you what here you take the side panel off okay this is really easy I swear when like Linus isn't holding it what are you doing let's try that let's try that again meanwhile be quiet watching this they're just like really you guys yeah okay got your acoustic dampening stuff in there trust me it's in there I can't see that's fine anyway that's the back panel so you got your SSD mounts you got really nice built-in fan control which is awesome these are interesting but from the other side so you can kind of use them to route cables from over here or from the other side what's neat is that you can install all the three and a half inch hard drives you want or leave it completely blank it's totally up to you so there's three SSD mounts back there moving around to the front is this literally the case that we used for that builder is this a second one or so different case okay but the same one yeah okay so we actually have a build coming in this where we're going to do like the fastest gaming PC tempered glass side panel of course the year 2018 you got to have that included pure Wings fans I believe it's three of them yep two in the front one in the back you've also got these are those three and a half inch cages that you can install all up and down here really nice clean basement here so you don't have to see here can you hold up for a second so you don't have to see your power supply wires or anything like that like it's really easy and really quick to do a nice clean build in it I have no idea what B quiets talking points were for this thing so you know we musta go of them we probably missed a handful of them but it is what it is at this point and that was the last time be quiet ever worked with us fresh 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later I was like dude all right so this is mm-hmm did you put the whole thing in yeah all right well stay tuned for the sweat breaking out on his brow over the course of the next up no you don't get to take your drink already all right so right now it's Pleasant but like we're getting there back to apple blocking Linux and stuff so they're t2 security chip is blocking Linux from booting on Mac devices and the t2 security chip the way it was sold to us anyway is supposed to be about encrypting your data so that if someone steals your device so if someone steals your device make get out of it but instead it looks like the new MacBook Air and Mac Mini that both come with the t2 chip embedded are going to yes okay whatever so the the latest iMac Pro the latest MacBook Pro so the new MacBook Air the Mac Mini any of the devices that Apple makes that come with the t2 chip embedded they're gonna have a secure Enclave they're gonna have a PFS storage encryption touch ID handling a hardware microphone disconnect on lid clothes and other security features but the t2 chip also restricts the boot process and it means that Linux support on Mac hardware is now not just a bad or inconvenient it is non-existent by default even windows isn't bootable until you enable support for Windows via the boot camp assistant on Mac OS Wow so what this will do is install the Windows production see a 2011 certificate that's used to authenticate Microsoft boot loaders but it doesn't set up the Microsoft approved UEFI certificate that allows verification of code by Microsoft partners so even when the secure boot functionality has been disabled the t2 chip is reportedly still blocking operating systems aside from Mac OS and Windows 10 specifically I really like this headline that they have here where it's just T to more like Terminator 2 this is a register but like I know so many programmers that use mac books and MacBook Airs all the time and all of them use Linux on it like they never use Mac OS or like sometimes they do but a lot of them just use Linux so I have no clue why they would do this I mean there's the obvious sort of snarky argument well why are you buying a macbook if you don't want to redneck OS and I can come up with some pretty easy answers to that maybe you don't want to run Mac OS all the time and also they're just doing their laptops also they're just pretty nice hardware and here's another thing like people complain a lot about the repair ability of Apple hardware and it is a legitimate complaint we have run into that problem or so however for better or for worse because of the ubiquity of Apple hardware even though it's very difficult to repair finding someone who has gone to the effort of figuring out how to repair it can actually be easier in some cases do you get what I mean by this and finding spare parts is really easy to like stuff like power connectors even if it's soldered you can like find a dead one really easy and then just compute and like we mean really easy and of course a relative sense yeah my friends in engineering would make a good buck off of it it's still hard and it's still a hassle and Apple could still support third party like service providers a lot better we're at all but at least these third-party service providers keep fighting through and keep finding away although the t2 chip looks like it really might kibosh a lot of this all right u.s. internet traffic routed through China for two-plus years yeah we saw a lot of time left so yeah and I don't really want to talk about that too much until it's confirmed yeah and I'm like what was the other thing some of these are some of these topics are kind of like duh like teal ghost posted this on the forum google confirms that dark mode saves battery on Android really like ya think anyway the good news is we're finally getting dark mode Samsung is also planning to add it with their new one UI which is sounds good I hope I don't know when Samsung announces they're doing a new Android skin it's like will we make it better will they bung it up well they finally fix my battery drain issue I had it again the other day and that's now it's fixed again so actually small iOS just really annoying thing you can turn the keyboard dark but then the area below the keyboard still stays light so it just looks horrible and I can't deal with it oh yeah you've been using iOS for a little while how's that going I don't like it at all they're just like a couple small things that like I got through they like the initial like not liking it because I just didn't know how to use it have you found some of the beautiful things though like being able to reposition your cursor with 3d touch or force touch or whatever they call it on the phone no how do you use that it's really cuz I've been really annoyed with like copying links yeah so do you have your phone on you yes this is one of those like I forget how I lived without it every time I go back to the iPhone so here I was just like type any type PD types and stuff and if you want to reposition your cursor Oh neat huh I had no clue had to do that yeah so Apple does a really good job of some little quality of life things and I'm at the point now where I think a lot of people assumed from my iPhone 10s video but I hated the iPhone or hated the 10s I don't I don't hate it I just don't care about it it's just not interesting yeah and quite frankly for me there are things that drive me nuts about both sides like my Google pixel 3xl review is not gonna be particularly positive either and I think I'm just jaded and tired of phones and so that's why I'm not gonna be our main writer for phone videos anymore because I think I just can't handle it anymore so I'm still gonna be like senior editor but I like one of our better received phone videos over the last little while the ROG phone was actually 95% prepared by Jake not by me so take that for what it is I just wanted like wind you about a couple more things sure go for it is on the tennis or the yeah yeah that's tennis right so I can't put all of my icons down on the bottom so like you you only get four I want five yes in order to search something I need to go all the way over to the left no nope nope search is good yeah except for you so you search just by swiping down anywhere no but you still you swipe down then you have to click on it no it's no it auto-populated look I can type see I didn't have to click it okay so okay they do have some stupid stuff like that though where you'll like I think it's um when you look up a content or something I think you have to actually click the stupid text field before you can start so what you get to it and now I need to click search web opens Safari yeah okay where it's like on the pixel you just go over it searches your whole phone and the web that's funny I'm so it's just rate at the bottom like on my other phone is right here I'm so old-fashioned that whenever I want a Google search I open Chrome and then start typing I literally have maybe twice in my life used even though on a lot of my phones it's just there by default and I just forget it I just like can't even see it that Google bar that's on my home screen I just I just don't even use it because I'm old and stupid okay it's kind of like Jake saw me yeah but like I've had that search bar on my phone on the home screen since I had a samsung s 2 so like how have you not gotten used to it since then Jake it's just I'm just like I'm just old and stupid so Jake saw me trying to pay for something with my credit card with tap the other day and I took my whole card and I like put it down on the reader and he's like wow you're so old I'm like what and he's like well the antennas right there so you only have to go against it like this and I'm like okay like yeah I never gave any thought to where the to where the actual NFC or excuse me RFID element was inside the card and if I had I would have known that yes I only have to put like I'm not an idiot I know how RFID works but I just never thought about it because I'm old and I just I always just put it against it and it always just worked so what do I care it's like I always put it against it cuz I did that for a little bit or just like the end because I kind of felt cool but it sometimes just it bugs out and I find if you do the whole thing it works more of the time well there you go I feel validated right now speaking of validation we should probably validate some of our super chat oh goodness people because we haven't yet and that's really terrible I can't read it's me sad face this High Line is typical good work Dave says love ltte would love to see that you team up with retro RGB for a retro gaming video interesting we do have some retro stuff planned so stay tuned for that dark inertia high showdown channel super feat of fun gave us five euros believe it or not Channel super fun is still fully funded people are you hungry um people internally are allowed to shoot Channel super fun if they can find time to do it they're allowed to spend the entire Adsense income from Channel super fun on channel super fun which means that over the last six months where we've done basically nothing there's literally thousands of dollars in a bucket that people could just spend doing cool stuff if they wanted to but I'm just not pushing it that's all do you know what I really want to do acetylene powered potato cannon I know you want to do that but that I think is not a particularly amazing idea so they also have no do you realize how dangerous acetylene is and how great it is in a potato cannon I built one of these before and we had to like wrap it in duct tape because it kind of exploded and then it like really exploded it was really great that Carter says it's my birthday happy birthday love your quality content in quotes Thank You Zack sir flexor says instead of buying a better CPU I would buy an OS made for gaming cutting out the crab unfortunately that doesn't really exist believe it or not cutting the crap out of your OS doesn't really do much for gaming in fact we still need to do that follow-up on Windows game mode oh yeah we should do that um laggy says hi Linus love your videos will there be an RG reboot 2019 oh wow I don't know we haven't even finished 2018 yet yes Thank You Colton that's the plan evil says where's lucky someone moved him over to 101 so I plan to move him back but I had put him in the in the set there and then yeah I think I think it was Brandon I think Brandon got rid of him it's not a waste of 20 minutes of your time if you don't spend 20 minutes moving in Brandon if you just leave him in his home I think it would have been really great no but just think about how great it would have been for this razor video to just have them in the background right just chilling there you know Christian says I've watched your content for five plus years never fails to entertain me awesome Neil says want to show my support thanks Neil oh wow there's so many of these laggy tech is back again oh man leggy tech I'm sorry it was just cuz I wasn't looking at them yet it wasn't that I like wasn't gonna read your content I mean sometimes that is it but sending more probably won't help um see kurosu would I notice any latency going from a TN to IPS for gaming so we actually have a video coming soon that's not really about that actually yeah it's really not about that at all and though I personally can notice the difference but it's like that's if I have them side by side like a 144 TN beside a 144 IPS you'll notice yeah but a lot of the time I'll just be like oh that IPS is just way better I find the IPS advantages more noticeable unity and advantages but I can certainly see like if you're like we've got a 240 Hertz TN from isus in the office here I'm like in csgo like whipping around you can still see detail in like it's amazing on a wall in dust too and it's incredible but I would I would take IPS over that every time by the way this guy also says BT Dubbs Alex you're a wonderful addition to the home why thank you kudos to you - is okay - I guess ah Kaja keep up the good work thank you minna de su says don't forget they're not gonna make a 1080 TI anymore I actually don't know that it's just kind of unfortunate what you want to COO but also whatever we're reading super chats Oh folding yes folding screen oh yeah people should fold its folding month so in part of fighting diseases and things we're gonna give away three gPS this month a 1080 and 210 seventies and to win two to ten ladies all you have to do is pull on our team Alan GGG slash folding for more information are you it are you firing these GPUs yeah just pulling them out of my butt yeah okay goodbye I hope you at least like put them in a plastic baggie for no plastic bag that must've hurt yeah that's what like the EVGA ones - and they're like kind of they're pretty Jetty um anyway says the jerky can get spicy here's a beer on me jokes jokes on you i keep the $5 he has to pay for his own be here and also it really wasn't that bad I remember it being a lot worse really yeah I don't think I sweat a bit but like hello world from Hong Kong says Ken yeah I think we're pretty much good nice alright so thanks guys for tuning into the win show we will see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel may be different bad hosts will see I'm no how do you think Alex did let me know in the comments below or in the chat one of these if you think he was terrible you can also let me know if you thought he was good or just Linus's puns were really bad the whole time no I'm sad for that pom no puns Oh so we we talked to YouTube's I forget I forget who they were but thumbs down is apparently worse for your algorithmic relevance than we fought oh so we might stop encouraging people to thumbs down the videos okay so see how that goes comment that Linus was horrible
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