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2019-06-01
Oh welcome hey who's that guy and whose water bottle is this oh my god is this vodka you should be using this one get out of here - isn't here we got a little extra can't chill that fast ah guys okay let's get this it's the land show I demand order it's the wine show with only brunettes this week are we yeah so welcome I'm kind of a sandy brunette I'm a mousy blonde anyway that's a thing this week what are we gonna talk about Riley let me tell ya I mean not you did the script you don't have the points on the top of it I don't have anything here let me tell you we're gonna talk about the Apple the newest patent for Apple's forthcoming folding phones which is not announced but seems all but assured we're gonna talk about the xbox game pass for PC and deepmind has added again with a new AI that can kick your body at video games this time in a first-person shooter that we all love quake 3 arena yep we're doomed weird ah good one really ensure all that intro it's not getting better than that boom well you think the folding iPhone is a shirred hold on the encodes rolling spots there's a sponsor's hey Brad close and that there it is salmon jerky ah what I did it guys good guys this is not gonna savage jerky okay abort abort oh I know what to do boom jerky sorry guys and where's one more I should have known I should have known not to put me in this chair after what happened when I was with Luke the most stressful part is over now we can just talk I don't want to go in that order do you want to talk to that phone first it's up to you man it's at the top okay let's let's do it because I saw this I saw this story and I did not include it in tech link today okay because I thought it was like that's who knows whether it's real but you seem pretty confident well only insofar as they have a pretty good pile of patents about foldable phones now mm-hmm there's several patents Oda and I'm aware that a lot of patents and particularly a lot of apple patents do not become products yes I'm aware of that well as long as you're aware I'm aware of that but they've got a bunch and it I don't want to get into these questions quite yet let's just talk about the latest patent first okay wait what is the latest patent described it describes a device that is has multiple folds like a wallet mmm can you you're gonna get that photo up for every button it up right now we respect you said oh god okay nice look at that all right I know how to do things there's a little diagram here keep going to go down go the diagram this is a ring scroll and slow or hold there we go boom so the one on the well you can see the bottom the cross-section kind of thing I'll fold that phones to a phone that folds twice and I guess the point here is you may not want a crease which seems kind of inevitable a perceptible crease in the middle of your old screen you might not want that in the middle of your OLED screen you might want to that are kind of near nearer to the edges maybe a third from a way that from the edge that is less perceptible even though there's two of them what do you think well I don't understand how this is going to be any better than some of the other folding phones we've seen so far I mean like III don't really feel super confident in any folding phone design until we see another one come out because the only one that we've seen come out is the Galaxy fold and it was a complete disaster yeah like it's hard for me to get excited about this because like yes it seems more efficient why is it that you can't use your imagination and make a determination I'm just not very what it is no I don't mean to be like that what I'm really asking you or what what do you think are the questions that can't be answered like maybe one question is is it gonna get scratched if it folds such that the screens on the outside hmm or okay wait look at that one more time because I'm kind of confused looking at it so what's the outside this is the screen right here I would can use your mouse yep this is that the stat would be fully open and this is the outside that would be this is different this is a different design I don't I don't even know what figure one really is I'm looking at for a figure for a I think jumps from figure 1 a 2 1 B 2 4 a well we're looking at an article not an actual patent document so but if we look at the bottom diagram I think that the screen would be inside of there to the to the top side of my magnifying glass right now that would be screen the bottom side of my magnifying glass would be outside going on the inside of this curve would be screen now that's a huge problem like well how are they gonna how are they gonna do this is there gonna be like felt on on this part of the phone so that the screen doesn't get scratched we wouldn't be glass content just be glass on glass glass on glass that'd be okay I mean that's I don't know like I mean it sounds dangerous what if you know what the problem is is that if you get debris in there oh and then you fold the glass onto the glass that's bad that's not good that's bad the biggest problem I have with these things is do I necessarily want like matters never created or destroyed okay it's just folded in this case am I convinced that I want the dimensions to be different than this this fits into a pocket okay this is a pixel three it's pretty much the smallest phone you can get anymore and it still fits in most front pockets of most men's pants that I wear it's actually still a little too tall for jeans I have it like sitting down in jeans with this sucks so do I want it to be half as long but then twice as or three times as thick in this case no I I don't and this is what's so weird about the whole folding phone trend is that for years phones have been getting thinner and thinner and thinner and like companies are boasting about we made the thinnest phone and now all of a sudden they want to make folding phones and everyone's like they assume that people are gonna be fine with having like a chunky chunky boy in there in their pocket and I don't want that well anyone want that link is what I'm trying to figure out because either they take a phone that's this size when it's unfolded and they just make it shorter and fatter when it is folded or they make a phone that's maybe this big but thicker when folded but when unfolded is really huge and I don't want that either I don't need a phone that like the galaxy bulbs is probably too big I don't I don't want to hold a Sega Game Gear see the galaxy fold I found interesting because it was thick but it wasn't so thick that I couldn't conceive of having that in my pants pocket or in like you know the the demo guys kept putting it into there that's a stretch jacket pockets I don't know a jacket pocket yeah a breast pocket on a button-up shirt no no I can't even put this in there without it being I've had anything in there come on a pencil I'd best but this is what's so interesting with the whole Huawei thing because while we actually had a really good design for their phone like I liked their design way better than the Galaxy fold where it went folded it was almost as thin as you know any random smartphone you pick up or as thin as a smartphone we're like with a case on it yeah because it ended up being thicker anyways so I don't know I mean so what has there been any information about this particular problem there's one other thing I want to sign why is this go back to the picture for us yes sir another thing i annoy me is these really gradual curves like on the I think on the highway design is well on all of them they're not like hinges that close and seal completely like this such that the sides are completely adjacent to each other and abutting they're they're kind of wedged because the screen can't full at such an extreme angle it has to gently fold right yeah so you end up getting this wedge kind of void he's wearing this shirt we don't have to both wear the shirt Boyd holding up shirts disappointed as to wear these like I gave you this shirt to wear why aren't you wearing it Lord I'm representing two of your babies we're individuals okay we have personalities my concern is it will feel weird in your pocket or if I put too much weight on that wider part of the phone maybe it'll bend it or something yeah it just doesn't feel as clean as something that's just completely folded over right like the Huawei phone that one's not completely full but the screens on the outside so you don't need to worry about creasing the screen because the inside is completely flat it's a complete flat crease and on the outside it can be curved because it's on the outside yeah bring up a picture of it that's true you see but then obviously those concerns about yours now your screens are on the outside yes but I mean when I put this in my pocket the outside your screens always on the answer I don't put this in the same pocket as keys or nothing right no as me although you know for some reason on jeans there's like a little stud kind of I don't know what that's for yeah it's just like a vestige of like this would jeans look like to be cool that's the main reason I wear jeans a but you know I'm talking about the little metal kind of nipple that's yeah at the top of a pocket usually on the right side sometimes I slide my phone in my pocket with the back toward that just in case or other little considerations like that other hazards you're not gonna be able to avoid as easily it'll be twofold that's true ah we are the best unintentional I didn't plan that doom fun at all really no it was good I'm glad that you had that much confidence I mean I figured because like screen protectors are they're easy you know and if you could figure out a the screen the folding screen you can figure out a folding screen protector maybe I don't I'm not an engineer what do I know okay heating the displays crease what's this about okay so that's a list of patents that Apple already made oh and some of them are more ambiguous like hey we're patenting a folding device we're patenting in a device that has its components in two different housing chambers okay fair enough it seems like every folding phones gonna have that but they have some more specific ones that are interesting like I guess they must have done enough testing to figure out that it doesn't the folding performance degrades and super cold climates so I guess it would be you know more brittle less pliable if it's cool so what they did was they have a patent for heating up the area of the screen where it folds and I think they did it just by turning on the pixels and just shining like light at them I haven't read the whole patent myself I haven't even read the whole app Shack oh but that's that's what this says somewhere Oh self heated yeah right yeah pretty cool portion of the display that overlaps the bend axis maybe self heated by illuminating pixels in the portion of the display that overlapped the bend axis or maybe heated using a heating element or other heating structure that's crazy I don't that I don't like it there's obviously thinking about it to the extent that they I was thinking who knows what level released one but here's a question for you yes Steve Jobs okay he seemed to have like vision for each of the products in terms of what would like that 10 out of 10 version of this product look like like to him the 10 out of 10 version of a laptop was like a book you know in the early 90s he always wanted to make a computer that just looked like a book and can carry it around right and then they eventually got to do that with the iPad sort of yeah so what do you think his idea of the optimal folding phone would be because I feel like when he's unveiling the iPhone 5 he's like this is the best phone design there is it fits in your hand if we still had I I had Jobs Steve Jobs yeah which would he like folding phones or not probably I mean this double I mean if the iPad was his idea for like because you know you what he wanted people to have books it's a folding phone I don't know you know like I just it's hard for me to get excited about folding phones right now okay the wallet we all got excited we all went there James and we got hurt it's a it's new it's a nascent category okay check out that picture of the double folded folding phone kind of looks like a wallet what the one that oh no we're gonna update down no no no kind of looks like a wallet and I feel like the his emphasis on a computer looking like a real world analog object you're already familiar with like a book he might have thought hey looking like a wallet school you can it's the only thing you need to carry with you you don't need your wall anymore you have Apple pay but like wallets are only okay to be in that kind of fold position because you sit on them I put my wallet in my front pocket do you yeah do you have like one of those thin wall oh dude I have a thin wallet too not a cent is mine but that's why it's double okay for me to put it in my back pocket that puppy why would you want that in your back pocket pretty close now if this was a phone I could be even thinner than you oh wow look at that and god it's time to move on you're done bud it's over you know what's next well you get to tell me all about her why do you want to stock more you got more to say about the folding phone that's good that thing you love so much I'm willing to try it I'm not writing it off I've got everything I went in it's like a relationship I don't want to get hurt again you know it's it's toxic it's all you spent three grand on one well I spent a lot of my time talking about it and reading about it huh that's move on okay guys you want to hear about game xbox game pass for PC Microsoft everyone's like yeah I can hear them my croissant oh he would not who Oh Steve Jobs they're saying that Steve Jobs wouldn't like folding foam who said that the chat all of the chat some of the chat I want names yeah well we got you cm rich that's enough names sorry I knew it was rich I got cerebral all the fans all the viewers some okay Xbox game pass for PC now they're doing it and that's the main thing that's a big takeaway okay let me get this straight what do you know about it okay here's what I know I know that Xbox game Pass is a subscription service which I believe is ten dollars a month on the Xbox one it gives you access to a library of games that library of game it's just like Netflix but games that library of games gets updated with new games as I understand it Microsoft tries to have launches be simultaneous so a Forza 4 comes out independently you know it comes out it should launch the same day on game Pass also as an Xbox game Studios title yeah they have more control over those ones right but I also understand that people are pretty stoked on game paths like the games on it don't suck it's not like they're only indie games jumping what games are on it game Pass has been around for a long time I know but but the thing is the thing that's weird about this and let me put the PC version boom the thing that's weird about this one is that it's not just literally the exact same program being ported to PC it's a separate program for PC like with PC games it's not like you're getting Xbox games on PC right so it's kind of like what are they gonna have good PC titles like they have Bethesda in their Deep Silver devolver digital paradox Sega and then Xbox is own and stuff that they are talking about right now but like is there an actual list of games that they're gonna have they're gonna give us way more details we think at e3 okay yeah the big part of this well okay so let's continue summarizing game paths like that's so that's basically it it's ten bucks a month and you don't get it's not streaming you know no you can download them you're downloading them you don't own them right you can play them and they can get removed from the game past library if a game gets removed they give you advance warning yeah it gets removed your save game remains so you could in theory go and buy the game and you'll still have your saves you're not gonna go okay well that's not so bad not so bad so it's like any subscription service like Netflix and I like I went to watch one of the Lord of the Rings like recently and it was gone oh yes there's nothing I want them in a Netflix but there's some people like force it was a big one when it came out for some people a new game comes out like that it's gonna be 60 bucks yeah that's six months of the service like the service is worth it for one game it get pays for itself after one game that you really like now if I'm not mistaken there are services like this on PC already like EA access mm-hmm but I guess this will I mean I wonder if there will be like cross-contamination no you know like like games on multiple services yeah so I Microsoft is still gonna be putting their games on other in other places like Steam and stuff like that okay so and that's the other big thing from this announcement is that they're gonna be putting more games on Steam that's what excites me about this because before I think they have the Master Chief collection they said was coming to steam and I think halo wars is on Steam okay but they have said Microsoft that they're going to be releasing more games in win32 format so they will be on Steam they might be on other stores like the epic game store or whatever so that is exciting to me because that means that Microsoft is actually starting to walk the walk now and not just talk to talk about how they want to care about PC gamers yeah I think overall under Satya Nadella Microsoft seems to be kind of decoupling like they're trying to be less of a platformer more of a service they're trying to be less siloed and more kind of modular which is pretty sweet I think it's working out for them what I wonder about this announcement is whether it's ever gonna be one kind of harmonious thing with the console you know what I mean I think that's their endgame how far away is that well that's this is the funny thing about is because that was what the whole point was of making Universal windows apps and putting them on Xbox and the Windows Store mm-hmm so but everyone hated that because you can only go by these games like you can buy the game on PC but you can only go buy it from the Windows Store in uwp format which you know you can't like you can only launch it through the Windows Store it's not like there's all these janky things about it yeah so now they've basically this is them basically saying yeah the whole uwp thing yeah weird that's we're kind of done with that yeah and so yeah what does that mean for their end game when if they want to make games basically just like you buy the game you have it on Xbox you have it on Microsoft on PC like eventually the idea is but on Xbox you have it on Microsoft on PC like eventually the idea is that those won't even be separate files like an Xbox is just gonna be another I mean it's gonna be interesting when they launch the next Xbox to see whether it is like a console subsidized PC whether it's just like a PC well here's an extra data point for that theory which is something called Xbox game pass unlimited we just it's announced but it's not out yet I keep I forgot this dream was on the document it was just looking up talking the whole time yeah dude know now they know all of our secrets oh no that's okay but it's just a little it's boring if you're gonna talk for a long time it should be like yeah you should be on your face I am on my face under my face okay so Xbox game paths ultimate isn't is announced not out yet and what it is is it's essentially just a bundle of Xbox Live Gold and the Xbox game past oh it's not really cheaper okay so game pass is what ten bucks a month for one hundred twenty a year and then Xbox Live is also ten dollars a month if you pay month-by-month but if you buy a year upfront it's 60 bucks so if you take the cost of a year of Xbox Live up front of $60 and you add that to one hundred and twenty dollars of Xbox game pass for a year that equals one hundred eighty dollars which is the exact same annual price as game pass ultimate oh so there's not really any savings except for you know if you're the type of person who does get month to month Xbox Live it's a saving in that way and you have more freedom because you can cancel at any time you're not kind of locked in however there's an there's now rumors that ultimate is going to include with no extra cost Xbox game pass for a PC oh so then it is a savings okay that is a deal yeah and it's also it's also interesting from a strategic point of view because I don't get it it's like why did they do that did they do it to sell more Xbox game pass subscriptions do because it's not helping you so the more people that you have using your platform I mean like if somebody has an Xbox and a PC and they sign up for it and they're you know using your Xbox but then like oh they're brothers using the Xbox so then they go to play on the PC they can technically say that's you know to like this many people are playing on PC you know when really that person mainly got it for Xbox so they decided to play it on this PC a little bit too I'm trying to figure out if they're trying to drive more customers on the PC end or if they're using PC players and driving customers on the console end or kind of both or what the big idea is I think it's both I might believe you might be one on the short term in a different one in the long term I think that this might be just part of Microsoft's push that they're doing right now to like make people like them again hey you want a game pass well you can have it on Xbox and PC please use our products you can have a Nintendo switch please buy Xbox is because we don't have good exclusives hey they don't Playstations got all the good I was an Xbox guy my whole childhood okay I've never had a Playstation but I recognize that they have better exclusives that's just the way it is yeah it always has been ok moving on we got to keep it moving here James you could go in here unless unless people have something and very important to say about Oh stuck in them to check that stuck way up there is it hallo I know hallo yeah I love halo okay hey that's like one game series halo and forts are pretty much set that's all anyone talks I do not play racing games so that's not interesting to me people I can feel there's a disturbance fans everywhere crying out don't like racing games okay both is good all right yes both is good sorry guys yeah I always loved that meme from years ago it was like console wars when mommy can only afford one luckily I got I'm a grown-up now yeah well I don't have any consoles you say consoles okay Wow you what do you what did you mean what how do you say it console you say console console yeah you're saying it like those like the advisor like a console you're 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other robot have able to do it then they advanced into the world of go a game that was hitherto unknown by many Westerners notice is huge in China probably even bigger than chess is in the West it's a more complex game than chess go our alphago which is made by deep mind is the best system living or or silicon or net in the world yeah that can play go then we moved on to Starcraft and they started smashing some pros at Starcraft in certain ways it wasn't a completely fair fight but it was still impressive and now they're approaching the holy grail it's uh it's scary first-person shooters because is this the first one that I don't know I don't know if there's a scarier or not by virtue of it being in 3d but is this the first one that like features an AI like controlling an avatar in 3d like kind of moving around like you don't don't in StarCraft you know you can from these hell units to go places from deepmind I believe it is I can't speak to whether or not there are other 3d game playing AI I suspect there probably are they're probably not as good as this one like the regular AI in every shooter game but this is different but those aren't those are programmed they're not like yeah those are unconscious like this one is their running yeah those are running scripts they're not they didn't teach themselves like the way that deep mind trains us is just aren't we just running scripts James no I wish we had a bit like a replica pistol that I could just talk and point that my that were doing a great sound yeah for that but yeah so this machine just was taught the rule it wasn't even taught the rules it's put into the game space it has some kind of prime directive like wind noise go back to the main yeah go to us or I start scrolling like crazy sorry if that it irritates anybody where I'm just like scrolling through the article this machine is playing against itself okay it's learning the rules by playing against itself it's learning strategies by playing its against itself it's plenty against itself 200,000 times yeah yeah yeah that's crazy I couldn't find something saying how long that took it to play 200,000 matches because I know that with the dota 1 like it'll play like a thousand matches in like good afternoon and it's yeah yeah yeah like something ridiculous like that so like when it when it had played a hundred thousand matches it beat humans like okay but then when it would crush me after the by the times it doubled that matched count it would it was just like destroying everybody yeah so what they say is that it was beating I think they were doing 2v2 and to humans yeah to v2 to BOTS versus to humans humans got on average they're playing capture the flag they got on average 16 fewer flags whatever game per game okay I like I guess they didn't have my flights you need to win I guess they didn't have a cap on how many flags you can grab I've played quake land parties here with all with all of us and I don't think anyone got like 16 or 20 points it must have been like a timed game or something it seems like the the purpose of this whole setup was not to have the bots win but just to humiliate the human player well it's really cool how they how they did it they did something called like a an evolutionary genetic approach to the training so they they have multiple like iterations of the machine like the game has populated only by different iterations of the machine yes no it's not learning against human players it's just all deep mines in there and then whichever ones suck just get destroyed there their code gets discarded they mutate the remaining code which makes it kind of like a random new a random mutation just like an evolution and then if that is better then it gets to stay so when they when these machines first plop into the level they first just they first figured out the concept of I have a base this is my base then through more playing they figure that out yes this is my base yes and I'm blue it's blue and then they figured out there's another base there's an opposing team space then later they figured out its advantageous to kill the other players but they have to go through the ages to higher things so they didn't tell them any of this no that's and that is what is truly horrifying horrifying like fascinating but it's like it's kind of like that's sick fascination when you're watching a horror movie and like the the bad guy is like eviscerating somebody in like a really unusual way and you're like what is he doing this rating means taking your organs out doesn't okay I thought you just you know okay you know interesting way I thought you might well you could just grab the organs or you can be like you know you can draw yeah anyways it's that kind of horrible way yeah where I'm just kind of like they taught themselves and then they learned Shakespeare or something or they or they wrote Shakespeare that was the difference between alpha go and alpha 0 mean Shakespeare's oh yeah he's everything no I mean like eventually if you leave them in the quake simulation for long enough there's a whole civilization 100 monkeys typing like yeah on typewriter yeah avenge the difference between alphago which was the original chess playing 1 and alpha zero was with alphago they taught at the rules of chess and they gave it matches a historical matches between pros and they got to observe human players and then learn from there with alpha zero they were just like play yourself and it just figured it figured out the game and then at the end they say and it sounds like this congratulations you played yourself we're all losers learn how to do puns while working here oh you don't have more things no that's all I had time to put in today oh really yeah we can keep talking but there's you know there's more topics at the bottom so I figured we can lean on those which is where we are now no but there's more engine interesting question then how will this affect game design because well yes there yet let's go to the previous question which is how I think leads into the second question how will human players use AI yeah because think about when when there became AI it for chess like you can play just against the computer when you're playing chess I think a lot of people do that a lot of people train that way a lot of beginners do it too you don't have anyone to play with right what's it gonna be like when let's say it's Starcraft you're playing Starcraft and the best Starcraft player is the AI like this this machine learned strategies right yeah and you would think that it would kind of converge on an optimal strategy and then so if the pros are training by playing AI and not training by playing humans then the pros are gonna mimic what the AI does mm-hmm and then all the humans are gonna be trying to play like the AI and then that kind of makes you think okay does that mean that the AI has found the best strategy for that game like for example if you're talking about a game like Starcraft where there's myriad strategies you could go they could go brood Lawrence or you could go hard roaches or whatever if you're a third player James used to play Starcraft this one would be like okay every single time you should this is the build you should do yeah and if your game is like that where there's only one like the meta is limited there's this is the way to play well I fear that a worse game than a game that where like actually there are multiple ways you can go and it's always interesting and is that gonna impact game design going forward well I feel like in games already in professional games if there becomes if a situation arises in which a certain meta is always being used by everybody all the time then that is an indication to the developers that they need to like nerf or buff something Simba imbalanced yeah see I'm dropping I used to game I know some game all you haters yeah so like I feel like that's that's a problem regardless of whether there's AI or not in the in the system you know like if everyone starts using one strategy that means that that game needs to change or it's not a good game yeah yeah in in games generally that's called via the size of the book so the reason that chess is a more interesting game than checkers is gonna have a bigger book if you go to a checkers tournament and the two main styles board though yeah if the pros in a tournament play like 42 games in a row yeah 39 and then will be a draw like and they're playing the exact same game every time mm-hmm because there's no opportunity to go out of book because there's just not that many combinations of moves that make sense to make but in chess and go as you've heard that people like to say these things like there's more chess combinations than there are atoms in the universe and stuff like that and it's true and we that make some more interesting games because once you get like 100 moves into the game you can be out of book you can be into all new territory this is now now we've we have a eyes now that can go off book you know like like we that was a that was an example in chess where like one of the a I started using strategies that like no one had really seen before really novel yeah so are we gonna get to a point where people don't even want to see humans play each other in these games because it's not as interesting well because I wouldn't want to see like I wouldn't be interested in seeing like well maybe I would actually I was gonna say I wouldn't be interested in seeing robot like basketball players or something but like I disagree that as I think I wouldn't want to see that I disagree that is less interesting and here's why when when this quake machine plays yep okay it may be developed a really great strategy but how good is it at aiming it is as good as they program it to be at aiming that's a good you know the point of like the you have a really good Pro human player is that this person has awesome reflexes this person can just click on heads all day whereas with the machine they're just gonna say you're you're like radical is this big the probability of you getting a headshot is X and that's just set and that's gonna have to be set between all the different machines that play each other see now this so this is what the study says about the abilities of the AI versus the humans at close range the AI excelled in combat but humans were better snipers but that's tweakable it is tweakable but that's because it's reaction time was half of that of humans and part because its accuracy was 80% compared to the humans 50% but this is only in this iteration of the game they could change its accuracy that could change its reaction time everything right whereas with humans you're just you have what you're born with or whatever stimulating you can put in your body that day that's what you do right and that's why it's interesting one this is the funny thing about any of this kind of like AI stuff is that like they're beating humans but usually the a always has some sort of advantage like in that dota 2 when we reported on or was it dota 2 it was Starcraft yeah in the Starcraft story when open AI wasn't opening no mine so what you're talking about is it had full map knowledge initially it had full map knowledge and then they took it away and it did way worse yeah but okay it didn't have full map knowledge it had fog of war there were areas that were unexplored on the map that it could not see however it didn't have a viewport like a human does right who has to pan around it had vision of the whole map at once which is yeah totally not fair and I don't like that so this is why I don't think that human play is gonna be less interesting and we're just gonna watch a tournament of robots doesn't really make any sense oh dude let's talk about the dual screen laptops okay bring it on do you have anything else to say I watch Linus's video no I think we pretty much covered it it's an interesting topic do you know as I think that's super interesting because laptops have been completely stagnant in terms of design for so long Intel came out and was like project Athena it's gonna it's just as good as ultrabooks it's another design initiative look it's gonna be really good but it's like it doesn't really get me excited which one was that project Athena yeah that's just like another kind of program that they're doing where they have a certain set of requirements for laptops to hit like the Ultrabook program was started by Intel they're like hey laptops are big and chunky we want to make them thin so they now what you think of as an ultrabook a really thin and light laptop that's because Intel kind of made a push in the industry to get manufacturers to start doing that so project Athena is kind of like the same thing but in terms of like performance and you know cooling capacity and that kind of stuff power efficiency I don't know okay I don't actually seen the requirements but that's what I know about it so that was like you know they announced it and is all it was almost like they were putting that up just to get people excited about it like to just to have something to say because AMD was like oh we have all these things going on and we're cool to still there like seven nanometer thoroughly good we're cool I wish that and where people actually talk like that like you go do they know we're cool I wish people actually talked like that like you go do they welcome to MDK No thank you for coming yeah the cool stuff to say I guess okay there's a few things I don't know maybe not everyone has seen this video but then book pro duo oh you're gonna show us I was just gonna hold the puzzle laughs describe what it looks like what's it called it's uh okay it looks like this you got a laptop right okay you keep searching rally I don't know what it's called oh honey Chris here is what the heck that was in tells a Seuss's is the screen pad pro duo yeah that just looks like this but it's got a screen here have you not seen it yeah I watched the video I said no I think that's about the other one are you talking about are you talking online buddy sure you're dude get us up to speed put that up there's things in the way oh this one with like has hinges right yeah yeah yeah this is weird - screen boom okay look at this do not allow get out of here you're not allowed make that bigger you guys haven't seen this you didn't watch you this what you reported on on Wednesday I'm technically no but I can't see the pictures I just read so like when it's folded and when it's you know just a normal mode like that that's basically what the easiest one looks like yeah but see that little hinge there see this little doohickey yeah I see you can bend that and have it kind of stand up oh and it has like a little microsoft surface type kicks down in the back it's got going to support its weight yeah Wow see okay if that ever wears out and gets loose you're screwed yeah maybe another hand weights another thing to breathe think there's a little a vertically standing stick behind it like a like a post that's here maybe like actually like the kickstand comes like this and then there's another one you slide up yeah that's a lot of moving parts yeah that would be jank but I think seeing this is just like you know as someone you do this to we keep on top of all the changes in design and like iterations that people do to normal designs and this is like this is one of the things that I it's one of the first things I've seen in a while that I'm kind of like oh that's okay yeah I don't hate it because the dual screen thing without that extra hinge mm-hmm I don't really get it cuz I'm like show us that one well I guess you can imagine it basically doesn't stand it looks like this it looks like that so Asus has a laptop that's like this but I mean I guess that makes sense if you're like hunching over your laptop but that's not very ergonomic James Lynaugh said it was really cool no I nosed it I watched that video where he was like into it and I think I said on my tech link that I'm like I can't really trust him because it doesn't think it's that undergo nama cuz if I sit like this like I am now sometimes when I'm typing something complex some reason I have to stare at the keyboard not because I'm looking where I'm typing just I don't know I can't look at the screen I have to just not but what's better if I do that my neck is completely aligned and I'm looking basically at the hinge area of the laptop and that's where that screens gonna be unless he was talking about putting your document actually at the bottom and having your other tertiary little supporting yeah screens up there and I can dig that but I'm just saying that like from an ergonomic perspective would I rather have that or would I rather have this well this is more options yes this is it's both it's better the question of how much more is it gonna cost probably more I don't know they don't like to pay how much more would you paid if I don't wanna the same except for the help that has that I don't wanna pay anything $200 I just want to have it up here how much would you pay for this I didn't say that and how much more would you pay well I don't know I need to know what the base price point is okay presumably these are gonna be like two grand at least I should hope so I mean there's more screen okay I like one thing I like about both of these is because there's a screen above the keyboard it pushes your keyboard down closer to the rim of your yeah you like a lot of people don't like that I guess you don't you lose a wrist rest you lose the rest rest of and a bunch of these laptops that are coming out with these this new kind of push down keyboard are coming with wrist rests so then you have another thing to bring around in your bag you're not gonna bring it around with you you're not I'm not what if you just had a little thing that slides out and a very thin slides out tilts down put your wrist on there huh I don't hate the touchpad on the right I don't hate that I like that a lot of people don't like that but doesn't make any sense to me because you're I mean what why you want to move your hand further to the center what do you mean you mean what do you talk to some people don't like the touchpad being on the right only got yeah and I don't know why they don't like it do you think that'd be a girl do you know with this one this design that you do like with the hinge do you know if it's binary or if it's a like continuous can I stand it and stop it at any point along that along the way or is it either here or it's here well I haven't seen really any views of the back so they're all still trite have you seen a video let's go back let's get I'm gonna get away from them yeah he's gonna do some stuff here and I go some hacking guys and also I wonder the part that stands up that has the screen in it what's the internal is there is it super light and it's only screen yeah look at this look at like the back of a lap dog of this one it doesn't look like there's any RAM or battery or saw really like a kickstand I think because if you look at this one yeah those are different configurations yeah but I don't think there's like a like you were saying there's a piece of clear acrylic right there what we're just joking square no it looks like that's just kind of you can you can do whatever you want with this I saw somebody on Twitter I think saying that like eventually laptops will have like just keep adding screen what is this though is that chin bar or is that just because they're watching you to wear something chin bar like that's dead space its Dead's because on the Asus it looks like the the screens are almost abutting each other does it not a budding is that like inba is that not a word there are jail I'm not challenging you I'm asking it what budding a budding a be you but DD a budding no T's a betting what no that's a different word eating and above is not the grammar show this is look like third time we've gotten into wordy oh man you really boil my gears sometimes James you really grind my eggs I was the boil what is a budding oh my goodness that's like a but and then hit images one word a budding like that but Grund be next to or have a common boundary with well we learned something on the land show today don't say we see I we all did I'm saying we okay the whole audience except for the people there's no way anyone else knew what that word was enough it's not that obscure a budding is a thing yeah is that because the cheeks are next to each other yeah yeah it's like about to make it like a butt yeah maybe to make as a butt to be but like yes it's to be unhappy that's the etymology to Venge do origin how much longer do we I see the lioness we'll be back next week yeah it's been a stressful week he's been in Taiwan doing copy deck stuff all week you know we barely made it we're down on the wire we made it we filmed our last video 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