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yes hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Wynn show we've got a fantastic show planned out for you today at least I think we do I wouldn't know I had nothing to do with the planning right hooray but in all seriousness we've got a couple of guests one of whom is another creator that we have actually never collaborated with before so that's pretty exciting and the second is someone whose final day here at Linus Media Group is today we are doing oh yeah I guess you probably didn't know about that we are doing a I don't know they were coming on yeah yeah we are doing a farewell farewell stream for for one of our one of our staffers who's been here over a year now actually Laos amazing how time flies yeah so we got a bunch of great topics lined up for you including Intel's ten nanometer delay Intel is I mean it's like the first time in how many decades that Intel hasn't been at the bleeding edge of process no tech it's gonna be really interesting because they might be in trouble um abital Apple to move touch digitizer and what does that even mean that called cuff oh oh oh apples ditching 3d touch wah-wah-wah Jim Keller joins Intel this is big news if you don't know who Jim Keller is basically he's like CPU design like hey Zeus I went with hey SUSE to make it like not sort of offensive did it help at all no okay well so we got Windows 10 redstone five gets telephony api's hinting at a surface phone which I thought I thought they learnt their lesson already on that one but maybe you know second time take your time give it give it give another shot all right so speaking of giving it another shot let's give another shot at rolling this intro Oh does it matter that I move to this window is that a problem I have no idea like are we using like screencap they capture that I think from a different thing though okay I think it's okay so hopefully all of that is fine I'm getting a bunch of messages hopefully that's problem oh we forgot to we forgot to do a tweet the land show is live this video brought to you by LTI and private engineers all right so I gotta do a thing real quick here like that thing and also this thing but with Twitter like totally finds this stuff so does YouTube so does Facebook and they just super bury it yeah every week will tweet the same thing right hey our show is live and those platforms will specifically go out of their way to be SuperDuper sure that no one would want to know that and what is going on right now why are you calling yourself how am i calling someone i it's not and hangout crashed so hangouts is crashed it's calling someone and somehow have you seen me take my phone out of my pocket this phone not not the iPhone from my back pocket no no somehow it was awake so far I think this is the the like smoothest start to a Windows Phone incredible ghost phone there's nothing I can do about these kinds of things my fault can't be it's also incredibly hot in here yeah Wow I think you can see it like my face is glistening that I don't think that's like a lighting problem no me too I'm sweating it's only April and it's already getting to be like summer weather here all right yeah so why don't we jump into our first topic here and why don't we just invite our guests let me see if I can rip these out how to do it and look on the thing click on the thing other thing and wrong thing hey look it's us hi so welcome to the show Jason how are you doing ah we are fantastic a little frazzled and a little warm yeah but otherwise fantastic how are you it's Friday uh TGIF I know right as if it meant anything wait you don't get the weekend off oh yeah I know well you're you're not exactly new to the YouTube game so there shouldn't be much of a surprise to you so uh yeah we've all we've we've already got we've already got people being like holy crap never new tech deals a name in our twitch chat yeah Jason who's actually a lot of that going on right now so why don't you do a quick intro to yourself or anyone who hasn't stumbled across your videos over on the tube my name is Jason I run a YouTube channel called tech deals and I do basically tech deals I do tech reviews and the best deals and builds and all sorts of fun stuff just just picture me as a much smaller younger version of Linus like five years ago Wow I mean with all that with all the shade that this guy was throwing even before the show started I was worried we're gonna have to bring in some more light so you wouldn't even be able to see our glistening forehead and he's keeping it up so you can find this channel over here five things to consider when buying an SSD is the what do they call that a channel trailer now whatever they call that the featured video on your home so giveaway in review eighty plus power supply 1050 vs 1050 Ti 2018 update okay why does that need to be updated because people like that stuff because people want to know how like the new games play far cry 5 and stuff like that huh um I used to do similar content to that you're like what is that back in the garage I'm busy RG being Thanos RG being things today if your brain was just a little bit younger it would have been malleable enough to remember that now you what is this like a tack lioness show kalanchoe well you answered the question artificial you answer the question of where he could be found with a youtube link instead of mentioning the new thing ah yes so I totally screwed up and it's it's totally my fault that especially Luke is going after me you have a hero fix it mind you oh okay just don't have a thing right alright you can find in there okay okay so this is this is pretty cool so the thing that we're announcing here is that Jason is going to be the second non lioness Media Group creator to show up on Flo please my spective spit altra and write their tech deals is now live on the platform and obviously we've had a look at some of the stuff you've got up on YouTube but what do you have available now for people to check out over on flip lane we have got some early access videos over there the May 2018 unboxing is already there with more than a dozen cool things unboxed there's some additional testing of VRAM requirements there's a couple of behind-the-scenes videos that are exclusive to floatplane just some interesting videos that you just won't see on youtube so cool stuff holy crap you've been really busy you've only had access to the account for like two days that the gallic said that Galax is the first time I've ever tested a galaxy card cool huh sheesh alright well that's fantastic okay cool alright so why don't we actually do something that we rarely do on win show here and actually get into a tech topic oh wow so the this was originally posted on the Linus tech tips forum by Sam C and the original article here is from Tom's hardware but basically this this is absolutely huge Intel's 10 nanometer technology is and the headline says this is pretty pretty savage here actually is broken and apparently delayed until 2019 now if the rest of the industry were going through the same challenges this wouldn't even really be that newsworthy except that the word on the street is that AMD is already in the prototyping stages using seven nanometer technology from their partner global boundaries yeah yeah yeah the and this isn't to add a little bit to this isn't rumor mill stuff I often complain like I don't like rumors this was from a I believe a shareholders call yeah so during their quarterly earnings call now this was yesterday Intel basically was like yep this is a thing I go and it's not too surprising they've been like a lot of the news lately of like oh this person has been hired for Intel has been like them poaching from other companies pretty aggressively so it seems like they knew there was a problem they've been trying to pull people in to solve it I mean Jason do you think they were trying to bury this new somewhat under an extremely strong quarter on earnings they were I mean they had great earnings but they're their desktop businesses flat it's their services business that's up and it looks like we're gonna be getting yet another iteration of 14 nanometer beyond coffee like believe it or not oh I mean this is kind of does this feel really similar to what started happening with GPUs right around the 28 nanometer time yeah when is the last time AMD had the chance of having a CPU at a smaller production process than Intel I don't think I've been a computer enthusiast long enough for AMD to have even been on the same process note as Intel and I don't mean where they like Intel when it went ahead and then AMD caught up and then until like I mean for AMD to have like launched at around a similar time with using the same manufacturing processes Intel so just for those of you who aren't familiar with what this means there are a number of things that make a CPU or GPU or any kind of processor inherently better so adding more cache for example adding smarter cache that is as long as it's not suffering from Specter or meltdown related issues minor problems increasing the clock speed all of these things help so architectural changes to the design of the chip and how its logic works these help performance and can potentially help efficiency but the kind of freebie that for decades we've pretty much taken for granted is shrinking the manufacturing process so the size of the transistors with a couple of notable exceptions this inherently makes the chips more power efficient and smaller allowing you to increase the complexity I mean that's why a CPU today can have in excessive like 20 megabytes of cash whereas back when I was getting into this stuff I mean having 256 kilobytes or 512 kilobytes was considered did he just take jerky never mind you know having 256 kilobytes or 512 kilobytes was considered pretty darn good so AMD by manufacturing on a smaller process inherently has an advantage in terms of power consumption and chip complexity that Intel has just taken for granted for the last what 20 years yeah pretty much it's given them their huge advantage that's incredible so I mean there's a couple other just sort of housekeeping items here they're shipping cannon Lake and low-volume haven't pointed to specific customers or products and basically they're multi patterning processes generating too many yield reducing defects to produce ten nanometer cost-effectively so that's another thing that the layperson would not necessarily be aware of when you're manufacturing it's not just about can you make a CPU Intel could probably make a CPU at ten nanometer or even a node or even two nodes below if all they had to make was one CPU and it could cost them six million dollars to produce or whatever the case may be but for them to make it cost-effective enough that they can bring these ten nanometer products to market and actually sell them at a price that would be acceptable to consumers and competitive with their own 40 nanometer products well for that you have to have a significant amount of the wafer actually be usable and they can accept small defects and you'll offer see that in the form of something like a core i5 or a core i3 welder will turn off some cash or turn off a couple of course that's perfectly acceptable but for them to not ship at all means they are not getting enough even usable dies to productize the thing well we may actually see AMD pull ahead and performance then for a change cuz Rison is awesome but it's still perk or not quite as fast but what if that changes by next year so one thing that's sort of a a potentially sub AMD sleeve is that we've seen second-generation Rison and I mean whatever the hype train might have said you know our thoughts on it we're okay I mean yeah it's it's more better for the same price I'm certainly not gonna say no yeah you know send it back make another towards the improvements but there was nothing revolutionary about it what we haven't seen from AMD yet is something that they have clearly indicated is on their roadmap and that is n2 so that's an actual architectural improvement to Xen that's more than just okay we shrunk the nodes note a little bit like at like a fraction of the node down and we've reduced power consumption a little bit even though it ended up not actually amounting to much and we've increased clock speed so can you imagine what the world looks like where AMD outperforms Intel I like uh it's kind of exciting because I think it'll light a fire under Intel again and we've been saying this for a long time it's gonna be weird consumer wise because even if MD is a head of Intel in that way it'll be interesting to see how fast or even if the market really shifts that much because people have been ingrained to just buy Intel stuff for so long now I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna say something that might be a little unpopular with the AMD fanboys out there I don't think it's going to affect consumer choice very much at all that's what that's where I was kind of going with that is I think people are still going to buy it I think game yeah I think AMD's gonna raise prices and the people who are gonna by AMD are gonna buy em deep cuz it's a good choice and the people who buy Intel are gonna buy Intel well that was kind of true back in the Pentium 4 days when you had Athlon XP yeah and in particular I mean the Pentium 4 wasn't even the worst because the Pentium 4 legitimately outperformed the Athlon XP I mean us AMD people you know I had a 2500 plus and I overclocked it to a 2.2 gigahertz which would have made it a 3200 plus by bumping the frontside bus from 333 to 400 ok no no crap no it was from 266 2 3 3 whatever whatever it was it was very confusing because AMD back in those days would actually have multiple models of the same processor at different frontside bus speeds and then just look like different multipliers and because of board compatibility with because remember that was back when third-party chipsets existed yes right remember via chipsets oh enforce faster in the past I know right so so anyway I had a 2500 plus and I had it overclocked to a 3200 plus which AMD very optimistically would compare to Intel's 3.2 gigahertz but if we're being honest with ourselves I was one of those people who was like you know what hyper threading is not real processor cores so you know what did my 32 Hydra plus is like as good as your 3.2 gigahertz p4 but in actuality hyper threading was a good thing and this wasn't something that I actually discovered until dual cores were sort of the norm and enthusiasts circles and I got my hands on a p4c 2.4 gigahertz so this was a Northwood see and this was an m0 stepping this was a cool chip this is a 2.4 gigahertz chip that was capable of like 4 + do people hunt that stuff as much as they used to a P force a P for 800 seed a P for P for C 800 - EE Deluxe that's an asus board from back in the day that was actually the board that I had that I was playing around with this m0 stepping on and that m0 stepping was out of like a salvage system someone had given to me when I built them a new one I was like oh you had no idea what you had here I mean dual-core spur obviously still better but I was like Oh hyper-threading worked this is cool and overclocked man that thing was fast anyway what am I talking about again right a p4 c800 a deluxe those still go for a hundred bucks on eBay I look really I looked at it last week because we're planning like a blast from the past machine and we want to overclock the snot out of it and if you want to overclock the snot out of a p4 see a Pentium 4 C then you really do need a p4 see 800 e deluxe and so we are probably going to pay $100 for a 10 year old motherboard in the near future that's a crime $100 all I remember is that the pentium threes were good and then the Athlon scam out and I skipped most of the Pentium 4s because frankly yes you could get a Pentium 4 that was faster but it costs so much more money than an Athlon that's true the board was more expensive the chip was more expensive to get the most out of it you need a dual channel memory which back then was Lane you remember that Rambis room crazy expensive yeah Rambis room I actually there's a gap in my PC enthusiasm in between the Pentium 1 and the p4 post Rambis so I never had to deal with roundest memory you've never had Rambis I have never had Rambis in fact I don't think I've ever even talked about it so feel free to tell our audience for maybe the first time they've ever heard about it because they're if you if you listen to our haters they're all kids so they yeah go ahead and allege I wouldn't I wouldn't want to put a hat on or anything but basically Intel wanted a piece of the RAM market oh did I say that out loud so they wanted to get everybody off of DDR Ram and they wanted to go to Rambis because they had royalties and patents on it it was supposed to be faster and it was but it had higher latency and other issues or vice-versa but essentially they thought that their market clock would force everybody and you could buy an Athlon instead which used the cheaper DDR Ram and cheaper boards and yes Pentium was ten twenty percent faster but you paid double triple the money for ten or twenty percent speed its bacilli that would be a tremendous video standards that intel has pushed over the years that died got Rambis we've gotten BTX we've got what what else just like off the top of our heads could we uh do you guys remember five VI IV no oh man oh it was epic we had this we had this like like demo kit at the NCIX headquarters that I don't think literally was ever taken out of its box I've seen this logo yeah yeah here hold on I'm gonna ha here here's an Intel pressroom technology brief I'm just gonna show you guys with my screen on my screen here here it is yeah baby Intel vibe maximize your home entertainment experience this is Intel's brand for in home entertainment pcs designed to transform how consumers manage share and enjoy a broad and growing assortment of movies programs music games and photos oh man look at this look how like delightfully 2000s all of this looks I recognize all the logos but don't remember it at all it's probably cuz it's home theater and I didn't care well the other thing too is that it didn't matter at all because anything was vive it was just kind of a meaningless late that you could put on an HTP see without like it was like the multi p multimedia PC standard back in the 90s V already yeah like look at all like look at these performance benchmarks they're like yes a vive technology oh by the way it's a pentium d processor and then they compare it to just a p4 not vive and they're like oh yes vive is much more better but it actually is just like better CPUs like here's a Core 2 Duo versus a p45 71 what is the point exactly that you're trying to make would you consider Intel's Itanium to be them trying to control 64-bit um you know what I don't know enough about iti tannic to really comment on it like in an in-depth technical way because it was server tech at a time when we did not dabble in server tech at all so what's your take because I feel like you wouldn't ask me if you didn't have an opinion well they were trying to move the industry off of their traditional x86 which of course AMD had a license to and the idea was that they would have something that they could have exclusive and I'll bet an awful lot of people today don't realize that the 64-bit technology we use today is in Intel's it's AMD's that Aniyah was Intel's attempt to get everybody off a legacy platform and sort of taking they've tried multiple times over the years to try to retake control of the of the of the CPU business from AMD yeah it will be considering all the stuff that happened 15 years ago with pentium 4 and am in Athlon if rise in 3 ends up being 7 nanometers before Intel gets there are you adding this to like no no but I will definitely I'm doing this during the show no no I don't think you'll forget that would be so that would be so much fun so on the subject of all of this lighting a fire under Intel's but I think we've got time for one more topic with you and I think this is probably the best one Jim Keller is joining Intel so this is posted by num lock 21 on the forum and the original article is WCC EFT XO whatever you might think about them you can keep it to yourself because this is like a confirmed thing so just chill out but basically I mean this is not even this is not even this doesn't do justice to to the guy's resume but it says AMD's Zen and Athlon 64 CPU architect so pretty much the only times that AMD has built anything competitive with Intel in the last ten years the architect behind them Jim Keller has joined Intel so this is after stints at Apple where I believe was he working on CPU or GPU at Apple dude dude do you remember no no I can't I can't remember either and then he also did did some time at Tesla so he left AMD for Tesla most recently and then he was at Apple in between AMD and AMD again I think can't remember exactly but basically the guy is a legend in the CPU design business and so now he and Rajat koduri who was the head of Radeon technologies group under AMD are now both at Intel so if there was any doubt that Intel is making a big push here you can put that to rest it's gonna be just well he's he's he's he was essentially played a key role or responsible for the good CPUs that AMD frankly has ever designed because I don't know if you ever played around with the old K 6 and K 5 chips back way back in the 90s but they really struggled when they lost the ability to copy Intel's designs I mean all the way through the 386 and whatnot they could copy Intel but then they had to come up there k5 was late k5 was slow competing with the Pentium and then k-6 was ok but then the k7 was Athlon and so basically he did Athlon athletics he all the way through until they switched over to phenom and FX which he wasn't involved with and then he did rise and so basically he's done every good CPU and he's ever done I mean that's one way of putting it yep and so he's joining as a senior vice president leading the company's silicon engineering which encompasses system-on-chip development and integration so he did a oh yeah okay this is all in my notes did a multi-year stint at Apple between contributions to k-8 and coming back to work on Zen at Apple he led the design team to build the company's class-leading mobile processors so in 2015 he left AMD to join Tesla where he's been leading the company's AI chip design teams to date so if Tesla produces some kind of chip design that is like freakin awesome in the next year to for he will basically definitely have had a hand in that I mean what what does this mean for AMD like they're gonna have a couple of good years here because one of the things that mr. Keller did I don't know what is doctor I don't know I've never never seen I mean it seems like there's a pretty good chance anyway yeah one of the things that Jim Keller did at AMD was he set out a roadmap for Zen like this is Zen one and then here's like future generations of Zen like here's here's it's all plotted out for you but after that what do they do where do you find another rock star like that find good people and let them do their thing I mean it's become very challenging though I mean in the early days chip design was simple enough I mean obviously it was already very complicated but it was simple enough that there could be many people qualified to work on it as time goes on for you to find someone with the knowledge to work on current technology and the experience of everything that's come before it something that does have a value and has a value more and more so as the technology progresses to find those people is going to become more and more difficult and when you're AMD you are competing with Intel to attract those people and we can see who is winning that battle right now yeah it's not like he's retiring right away that's one thing I was going to look into is like is the old start gonna be retiring but he's not quite at that age yet so no we can keep leaning on these guys that's gonna be interesting alright well we got to jump into our sponsors Jason thank you so much for coming on the show we are absolutely thrilled not just to have you on but also to have you on float plane so I just want to do a quick reminder to everyone you can find Jason over on YouTube if you just search for tech deals youtube.com slash tech deals yep and you can also find them over on sorry I was just stalling for time while I got my float plane screen up here yep there we go and you can also find them over on a float plane be doing mostly early access or exclusive stuff for what's the deal over there um early access the goal is to give everybody a week early access to 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position at floatplane media if you're watching this on youtube it will be in the description and otherwise you're pissing into a chat I'm posting this all right cool how many people are on the team now it depends where you draw the line okay yeah like five but depends where you draw but all ends on me then five if I'm included yeah but are you included yeah it's like five plus yeah yeah okay yeah so it's going really well it's been it's awesome Luke's Luke's a great boss um LTX 2018 LT X 2018 it's a meet-up an interactive tech event is happening July 14th at the Richmond Alinta Koval here in Richmond BC Canada Kirt booths include a blind cable management competition brought to you by cable mod ad living workshop so you can bring your CPU and we will show you how to delete it safely case tossed 2.0 safer this time multi-headed VR a lan really we're gonna have a LAN that's sick ok 12k ultra wide gaming we haven't actually made that video yet but we will be working on that very hard to hopefully to have it done in time and with more on the way there's going to be food music cool systems to look at games more swag special guests exclusive live unboxings and more so tickets start at 35 bucks Canadian and you can check them out at LTX Expo com so look oh crap oh crap oh crap where's that where it where where is it where's the oh there it is okay yeah everything's fine so it's your last day yes bye so I actually haven't asked you this yet but like where are you going Croatia okay not what I meant but oh really oh okay what are you doing in Croatia I'm gonna go live um with my boyfriend's grandparents for a bit really yeah breathe in some fresh air I guess you're gonna live in Croatia they have no Wi-Fi like in Croatia or at his grandparents house in Croatia no yes they do they don't what yeah they have the capacity to do that no send you a photo of their like breaker like it's it's insane oh oh but just like in their house in their house that they I think they have Wi-Fi it like one of the cafes in the city really yes so you're going from complete immersion in technology to like your phone is basically a fancy Apple branded decoration yes Wow how long are you staying there a few weeks to a month yeah so yeah wow that's exciting have you given much thought to your plan beyond that I feel like I'm interviewing you I might as well ask you know what I might as well ask some of some of the questions that I'm sure people have on their minds guys go ahead and post in the twitch chat if you have any questions for max I will do my best but we're not gonna have a ton of time because it's 559 and so officially in one minute she's super doesn't work here anymore and definitely doesn't have to listen to me am i trespassing at that point yeah do we have to like do we have to escort her away no already taken all my keys but you're a visitor okay so uh favorite video project you worked on while you were here oh I don't the one at your house I forget which one but you dressed up as a grandmother and tech then versus now yeah that was that was pretty fun that was pretty fun so we were talking about sort of retro tech and sorry so we were talking about sort of differences between technology when I was a kid and when my kids were a kid and I guess technology from when I was a kid was funny to you I suppose also it involved a lot of costumes that was a lot of fun a lot of cross-dressing worst project where's this project I already think I know what you're gonna say and it was fun but it was also pretty horrible go ahead you can say yeah I mean I just I think I know what it was I see if I get it right well now I'm trying to think of what you're thinkin oh no don't try to think of anything and try to think of the worst project you worked on the whole time you're here ah okay yeah I don't know CES was pretty tough it wasn't the worst project but it was like really really tough San Francisco as well the AMD factory tour that's what I was gonna say okay yeah yeah Alan that was a little rough yep like we flew out very early morning didn't we we were up at like three and then we worked cuz yeah it was like a 6:00 a.m. or like a 7:00 a.m. flight or something stupid like that and then we we landed and worked all day and then we had another like 6 or 7 a.m. flight home yeah I remember getting back I remember getting a hotel like 9:30 or like 10 o'clock or something like that and you were like set your alarm we're up at 2:00 a.m. and I was like okay and he came back to the office I only lost him too like we got there got here at like 10:00 a.m. yeah I think you stayed in for like another 3 or 4 hours yeah and like I didn't even ask you to I thought I had to oh right yeah well like okay I stayed cuz I didn't have a choice like I had that whole trip was just kind of a cluster yeah because AMD sprung it on us at the last minute and they were just like well we're gonna have like the most exclusive thing ever it's a supercomputer made of Vegas and we were like yo we have our LTX this was a year ago holy crap so we were like yeah we have our LTX Expo like like now we need to know that we would need to be there and back in one day and they're like yeah we can make it happen okay people are asking if you got fired because you dropped the testbench you know what I think it took Linus about a year to think it over and then he brought me into softens and you know what I can't get over it no no we're actually pretty chill and if I had to be honest I don't think we've ever addressed this publicly but if I had to be honest about it that was at least 40% my fault get I'll take it I was the one who propped it up like that that was me not max you know what I said that doesn't look like the best idea she did say that however I did say max can you hold this while I answer the door and he trusted me during my probation oh this is great it is 6:02 I'm no longer your boss you can answer honestly okay hold on let's soon okay is Linus a good boss I don't know someone else it's going like super it's going super fast yeah you don't you don't have to lie you don't have to lie anymore there's no pressures ya know like heat ya was a great boss I know it's over all right what else we got here um pregnant remember everyone's to everyone's touch what people are asking you think I'm leaving cuz I'm pregnant no I don't think you have to answer that question someone has a question oh why isn't your hair blue I saw I've been wondering that I saw a 15 year old girl at Walmart and she had literally the exact same hair as me um it was really she was like following me around like there was no way she needed to be in the cereal aisle the same time I was in the cereal aisle and so she just like I don't know I felt really stressed out and I had a hair appointment the next day anyways and I was like so we gotta get rid of this and she's like let's just do it now and I just blacked out woke up blonde hair really mm-hmm it was time did you feel old oh yeah I get no it's just that I didn't want to identify as somebody that has the same hair is like a 15 year old so you felt oh then yeah so whose time oh wow I wish I'd asked before that's fantastic twitch chat thinks all girls are pregnant that's that's apparently why that came up I don't I don't know I don't spend enough time on twitch to uh let's see if you want to take one more question yeah okay sure let's do one more seventy-five is the answer um what's the best part of the job here I don't work here anymore I can't answer that I don't know every thing it's pretty chill I don't know I get totally hang out with cool people and nice cameras it's definitely not a desk job which is what I had last time and wait so that was really cool being able to totally do different things every day and like walk around be creative right yeah I think some of your finest work was actually one of the last things you shot here this video right here is not up on it's not up on YouTube yet but it's on floatplane so I'm just gonna this one yeah here we go and I believe you did all the lighting for this didn't you so at in the in the early in the early parts of her tenure max relied on Brandon a lot for help in terms of not operating a camera necessarily but in terms of lighting shots and and the composition of her shots and all that kind of stuff and she actually did this whole video which I thought was absolutely fantastic when I when I watched it the other day including like the sort of the black backdrop there the the pedestals here this this is really cool so in this part right here I'm gonna walk from sort of an early model end to a newer one I hope I have this muted right now yeah my god muted right now and we this was really janky the way that we had to do it because we don't have the proper equipment for it but I thought it was really creative and just really well done in a cool way so yeah I don't know it kind of felt like a fitting last project actually because I videos I think that we've ever done so it was all James's idea I said do we really have to do this well he goes yeah let me see if I can just find one of the spots where we have one of the the movement bits it's ok here we go there we go this is the part that I wanted to I wanted to show you guys that interlacing that wasn't that beautiful yes so I put down the keyboard and with a little bit of post work do you want to tell them how this was shot because it's yeah horrendous what are those things dolly is not a dolly it's a handy mover yeah it's like a handy mover so we had a tripod with a red and a prompter and like a little audio module that like we had a boom plugged into and like we sandbagged the tripod on to this handy mover and we had we basically like the way the Handy mover works you need to move in one direction or else it like gets all weird so I don't know I had it like this I had one hand on the Handy mover one hand on the handle at the red and I just pulled it back and we had Edie on the left side of me with just like a soft box on wheels and he was holding it back and then we had Dennis booming and he was just walking back and we had James as well like kind of a side me with a bounce and he was walking back with us and Linus had to do this while reading off a prompter and like putting a borrowed keyboard back on a pen so carefully yeah not my keyboard like two hundred three hundred dollar keyboard on ebay because they're very rare a lot of a lot of fun though okay last question is for me Oh Kate are you going to ask me for a reference huh I'm just I'm idly curious I have not considered looking for another job yet so haven't gone to that point annoyed maybe all right sounds good well I think do we do the handshake thing really all right and on that note thank you very much for all your time here and have a great weekend of liberté I'm gonna yeah or a month's Wi-Fi yeah have a great life all right see you max on that happy note I return hey how's it going yeah speaking of people who don't work here anymore Wow yeah actually no one was on the show with you this week that works here yeah how interesting you know what I'm gonna call that a solo Rancho and I'm gonna give myself an extra gold star for doing a great job of the land show by myself that's not how that works all right so we've got other tech news I think but honestly we actually don't have a ton of time we're in we're in a negative time yeah should we start - just like burn through stuff pretty quick here by shirt might oh just putting your coffee away okay well bye neck clinic you're not leaving forever you might go crazy yeah Croatia yeah sure whatever have fun with no internet buddy gonna enjoy that yeah I'm pretty sure no no Wi-Fi no no it's just it's just no no I understood what she meant they just don't have like an internet line into her grandparents house I think it's what she's trying to say yeah yeah all right okay so Windows 10 redstone five gets telephony api's telephony telephony oh yeah thank you hinting at a surface phone ready Microsoft might not have learned their lesson but the API is cover support for a range of typical phone features including dialing numbers and contacts blocking withheld numbers support for Bluetooth headset speakerphone mode etc there looks to be some kind of video calling support suggesting support for 3G or LTE video calling I would love to see like this is something I haven't been able to figure out for the longest time this doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna do a phone again it could just mean they're gonna add phone functionality to surface devices which is hopefully what it is like the for people that would care about the other option yeah like I don't like sorry good night disappointment nothing person yeah their amount of disappointment is not worth it other good Microsoft News they rolled out the Xbox April update which gives you free sync over HDMI hmm support for 1440p which paired with that free sync support some free sync is on all and 1440p is on the One X and the one s means that you could be looking at a significantly better gaming experience if you're like living in a dorm and you know on your monitor and you've got like a cheap Korean monitor off of ebay or whatever because there are ones with free sync we actually did check one out recently that was a fantastic value um it's got support for Auto low latency mode which will tell your television that you're playing a game so it can switch the display mode I didn't know that yeah that's pretty cool updated mixing mixer streaming service to include the ability to share control of a game with a user on mixer calm that's actually pretty sick unfortunately with all of this there is no there's still no end game for a CEO fees so what you want to do this one wasn't posted by sc2 Mitch on the forum go ahead what does that even mean I'm posting this in the twitch chat but apparently Finland is if I'm tripping over myself what is literally what does this mean okay finland classifies eSports as a traditional sport apparently there's a quote that says eSports is now being treated as a traditional sport in an administrative sense okay though we don't want to outweigh the importance of traditional sports it's still but I don't know what in an administrative sense fools so there's some good stuff here basically if if an eSports ee athlete wants to come into the country to compete an event for a good reason obtaining visas as well so there's some good stuff it'll help teams obtain government funding if they're based in the country and tax benefits for athletes as well EF Li's you know what a so that's cool I'm never gonna do it I'm sorry but I'm never gonna call them athletes I'm okay with this they're you athletes okay it takes an extremely high degree of skill and precision and all this kind of stuff but it's just a different form but it's not athleticism it's a different form and there can be benefits to that extreme control from being at like an athletic person and different being in good athletic cardiovascular shape yeah they're just not the same thing yes um whoa if you were wondering if the mining craze has reached the plateau and is coming down Taiwanese graphics card makers to see shipments plunge 40 percent in April so this includes gigabyte MSI and Toole many clients have suspended taking shipments in response to the drastic slowdown in demand for cryptocurrency mining machines many mining farm operators are apparently awaiting the rollout of a theory of mining machines by China's bit main in the third quarter of 2018 don't duh there's a rumor that Apple is working on an 8k x 2 VR headset an 8k display for each eye that would be fantastic I don't know how big this thing would be the box would be powered by a custom Apple processor that's more powerful than anything currently available and it would act as the brain for the headset in its current state the box resembles a PC tower but it won't be an actual Mac computer there's a few things that I'm really surprised aren't in the dock and I don't have notes on it obviously but to like stepping-stone you guys on to looking at it to yourself there's apparently a huge lawsuit going on right now over Ram pricing that we just got a bunch of news about there's a Eric Lundgren is possibly going to prison for repairing or for burning freeware onto discs that isn't here and then oh it is okay so that was posted by Ken blue 24 on the forum that actually is really important to cover let's go ahead and so an e-waste activist gets 15 months in prison for selling Windows Restore disks yeah so these were downloaded from I don't know if you guys are gonna remember this to be completely honest but back in the day you would get restored discs with your laptop or your PC your desktop sorry and now you can download them and burn them yourself or put them on the flash drives or whatever and he would charge as far as I know he would charge 25 cents see this charging footage is essentially essentially disc yes like the physical medium that he put it on - yeah there are a few additional problems that not a lot of people are putting light on one of them is that apparently they were labeled as like Microsoft Windows which causes a big problem that's a big intellectual property problem but that was not the focus of the court case right the focus of the court case was apparently selling the software when clearly the software is available for download and cannot be activated without a license a license key is what actually matters here and he wasn't selling license keys he was selling he was selling helping people who had lost their recovery disk get windows back on their computer with their existing lights in a really nice way because he was helping you do it yourself and he was doing it for 25 cents the cost of the disk that doesn't doesn't properly in my opinion clewd labor that's like taking some business away from him directly and Microsoft apparently as far as I know went after him for the perceived value so I think it was like $20 a disc yeah so saying that it was worth like almost three-quarters of a million dollars and apparently their problem with all of this is that it is causing lost sales but that is a very frankly argument it's completely untrue because those people already have a license for Windows so we shouldn't be trying to sell them another license for Windows because they already have one and that is what is known in the industry as a dick move so there's a couple of problems here he did break the law he did sell copyrighted material which is wrong and bad and illegal but this kind of behavior the intent because I'm a firm believer that we should look not at the action so much as at the intent like if someone's like your dick that's obviously really different from you know what you're a really nice guy yeah so there's what you say but there's what you mean and in this case yes what he did was technically incorrect and technically illegal but it's the kind of thing where I think a letter probably would have done the trick and no and like yeah it comes down to the the basics of does the punishment match the crime and this is right extremely not the case if someone was driving down the road at 200 kilometres an hour and they blow through a school zone they would be unlikely to get 15 months in prison in spite of the fact that okay maybe no-one actually gets hurt but they could have really dangerous easily like you know hit a rock at that kind of a speed in a residential area and this thing this kind of stuff happens they could have easily like hit a rock and flown into someone's house or like run over a bunch of school children or whatever work they hit they will fire it out and nail someone they will not get 15 months in prison and here we're talking about in with as far as we can tell a good intention someone printing these discs and making them available to people who are not tech savvy enough to download them on their own and we're putting this person in prison for 15 months this really doesn't make a ton of sense to me someone in twitch chat was like right to travel and honestly I don't blame the courts for this I don't blame the law I don't blame the court system I blame Microsoft Microsoft should not be going after this guy they should have sent a strongly worded letter told him not to do it and ideally created assist where people can download these recovery discs far more easily because as much as the disk does usually say on it don't lose this or you won't be able to reinstall that's BS - there's absolutely no reason why physical media it is 2018 there's no reason why physical media should prevent you in any way from installing and using your software that you have a valid license for so I guess that's all I have to say about that there's there's yeah there's there's legitimate issues with the use of yes but they took it too far they should have said don't use our logos that's like someone uploading a meme on the internet with my face in it and that's immediately going straight to a lawsuit rather than being like you know yo you've crossed the line there you actually can't use that we usually like memes yeah we love it so go ahead please do it I saw one with you and it recently where it was like the four panel one and you like run into an Apple store with money in your hand have you seen I posted that on Twitter it the loss means yeah yeah it's fantastic so far nobody sent that to me you know how I found it for the first time ever read it I was bored oh I don't remember the last time I was bored you got so much when you put my kids were doing something and I like needed to supervise them and I kind of be there but like so I went to our /all and I made it four pages in and I was like holy crap that's me because it wasn't in like pcmr or like any of the places that I would normally pay attention to where was it I'm gonna have to check Linus Mac lost me right at that I should bring it up ah no um Wow yeah I don't think I'm even like mentioned in it though yeah I can't even like I can't even find it now I'll have to go on our Twitter and like find our post of the reddit page but like oh yeah cuz I didn't send it to you because I had noticed that you had posted it No or was it your personal one no no it was on the accompany one I figured it was on topic enough yeah I think so there we go no found this out okay for crap I didn't I didn't I didn't say where to read it dang it that was funny my Mac loss rated iMac loss nope yep can't find it I'm sure someone who's supposed to dit in twitch chat by now yeah there's no twitch chat is full of people complaining about reddit search yeah well there you go um wow this is awesome we have a stay hydrated but you've been live for just over and I'm audited by this point in your broadcast you should have consumed four ounces a hundred and twenty milliliters of water to maintain optimal hydration stay hydrated bod is amazing how am i doing here oh wow I'm like double that keep going well that's still cool oh I have an insulated bottle now so I'm not used to it it's like really good though I got this on Amazon you like can't even it's like not cold at all they're still ice in there you did show me at lunch oh I played along to like try to like I can bring in a stream alright so thanks for watching guys we'll see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel bye interest already had some people applying thank you apply harder please like I still can't find it I tried - Mac mean was try - Mac mean reddit this is my summary of the Linus tech tips controversies on it No oh wow that's that's interesting the show is brought to you by private Internet access spectrum and LTX and also this is weird I haven't even fact I've never haven't even seen this there is so much discussion of this I think even more than the tampon thing I love house on how stupid that is yeah the top comment this is interesting it's not like they were asking Apple to fix it under warranty he said he was willing and expecting to pay for it here's the biggest issue he's voided the warranty in a spectacular way it doesn't matter even if he pays double the cost of the Mac just to fix it which would be super dumb because you could never pay more than the cost of the Mac to fix it Apple then has to give a warranty on the repair then that puts them in all sorts of poo if something else is broken due to his tampering no because nothing else could be broken because the entire thing would be brand new that's not how this stuff works it's just you know what mom will make a video later bye