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and we are live we're live on the wind show with our special guest Jay's 2006 special very serious very special guest the specialist guest the greatest you know what's actually kind of funny is it didn't occur to me until we were already live but it is possible that we still have the lower third from nope we do not somebody goes out that folder that would have been super cool if we still had like an ancient lower third from having you on as a guest like two years ago three years ago it was probably more like three you know probably more like three so let's say let's do a quick rundown of some of the topics that we want to discuss today actually I've got one that I'm not sure if is in the doc but Jay you and I both released videos discussing the X $2.99 platform and sort of gave some thoughts on it you know I'd love to kind of go head to head about it and kind of go excusing some of those thoughts and say the audience would love for us to flesh things out a little bit so I'm all about fleshing out if you know what I mean and see how much awkward silence I get I got a good two heartbeats there yeah um and we've also got a lot of Apple music that I'm sure everyone is going to have an opinion on because some of it looks amazing and some of it looks like it should be amazing but actually wait is this seriously not not in here in detail okay that's fine we can we can get to that later so yeah without further ado let's roll the intro and get right into this because there's a lot to cover today yeah dude I can hear it oh right from singing once is for the show with savage turkey press box and cable ma okay so why don't we jump right into the big highlight from the I didn't put the guest up there is why don't we jump into the big highlight from Apple's event oh and I just realized we don't have J when I'm sharing my screen so we're just going to have to do the screen shares really quickly so this is from the verge the eight biggest announcements from Apple WWDC 2017 number one Apple announces the home pod speaka to take on Amazon echo and so no so can I kick this off by saying who here actually uses and/or desires my grandpa all the time same with my mom okay so tell me exactly what it is that people are using I almost have no speakers for but I think part of the idea is that it's it can be louder than your phone automatically without having your volume settings already on I think it's more responsive to voice from further away I'm assuming those things are what it's for I don't use it J but yeah but yeah for my mom are both very I was so unenthusiastically like not following anything to do with Apple until I saw the Vegas thing which I'm sure you're going to talk about but yeah yeah I was going to get to the important stuff Specter yeah I mean I don't know I could see like my daddy was fairly disabled liking voice command stuff but I mean I can't bring myself to get an Alexa or a Google home so why would I want this like I think part of the idea is if he's like watching the TV or like cooking food or something and he just doesn't even want to pull his phone out he can just talk to it and it's fine uh wait hold on a second apparently J is way out of sync he was an he well didn't sink here ah see I bring the old Tech Talk mantra with me wherever I go oh it's slightly behind yeah oh people are like yeah he's way out of things a hundred two hundred millisecond yeah it's yeah okay um I mean there's only so much you can do with video over IP right Wow okay you know what I think we're just not gonna care at all so okay so basically I'll say this I I have a sono speaker actually I have a few so no speakers and what I really like about them is that you can turn on one room or two rooms or a bunch of rooms I do think some of those speakers are overpriced so for Apple to come in and say okay yeah we're going to have a home speaker that is you know sounds great and is also a competitor for Sonos and also happens to have Siri for if you're wondering like how tall the average giraffe is or whatever sure then I guess there's I guess there's some utility there but I can't figure out who is actually using apple homekit stuff and I can't figure out what exactly it is that people other than me have figured out how to do with Siri that's actually useful that's one of my bigger questions is because I like I and I feel like it was actually better before have you had that experience I feel like my voice-activated stuff has gotten worse over time almost every time I go to use Siri like here let's do a live demo hey Siri hey Siri can you set a reminder for me to pick up my kids at 10 p.m. tonight okay I'll remind you okay brought whatever manage to get it right after hearing me the first time but like so many times it'll it'll get the it'll have like the time in the reminder it'll be like oh well then would you like to do that like holy crap you literally have ten pee right there I don't know how it could have been much more clear than that and I've just been so frustrated with it lately that I just can't imagine myself buying a dedicated appliance just to be mad and after three attempts pull up my phone and just freaking type it in you know when I did my sono stuff last year because I'm like you I have quite a bit of sono stuff and it really had one selling point for me and that was the ask controlled volume and whatnot because when you have toddlers and kids like me who like to crank the TV super loud it was just convenient to be upstairs be able to turn the tv down so having to yell turn the TV down like that one feature alone for me was worth it but I mean in terms of like home assistance and home speakers and stuff like that I don't use any of the other functionality built into the SONA so the exception of just being able to switch it and maybe stream some music I apply whatever to to play a little bit of demographic and I guess no one's really fighting for the other side but I I think for like the the more normies out there anatomy is that what we call them now I I guess I think this serves actually a better use case because it fits the like super classic easy to understand dynamic of like the the person chopping vegetables in their kitchen who like randomly thinks or something and doesn't want to stop like hey can you convert three quarters of a cup to the metric system yeah and like apparently it actually does that pretty well I know your phone dude money pick you up I could see my wife doing that yeah and like I know your phone didn't just pick you up very well but a dedicated appliance 360 dollar appliance for that bit of course though so again back to okay so there's two discussions to have here one is is this thing really that useful and the second one is will normies flock out and buy it so I don't know about flock out and buy it well hold on I was about to make an argument there because when I was over in Taiwan I stayed at Dennis's parents house for the first day because our hotel wasn't available to check in yet anyway and they actually had like so many dedicated appliances that my zero clutter lifestyle would not allow me to take for free let alone go out and bye so like your own quarter lifestyle they have a they have at home you've never been to my house lately have you yeah well okay I have kids - yeah I have - exactly okay like my aunt she has everything from like she has a dedicated juicer just four lemons and limes okay yeah yeah not a noodle maker yeah she's got it okay she's got a salad spinner and I'm sitting here going you know what you know how you drive a salad you kind of shake it over the sink and you put it in a bowl it's done you know that's like it's like the spending too much time on QVC or the Shopping Network right you just like oh that looks useful when you buy it but then you really never use it so Dennis parents own an in-home sauna and remember this isn't Taiwan it's not huge I want it so bit surprising but if I marry quickly in Finland there's a sauna per person okay saunas are just not that popular in Canada and and number two they had this like like writing thing that I posted on social media that was like an exercise device of some sort and I'm sitting here going you know that is like the erotic Bowflex you know yeah I think it was four core exercises but man did it okay this is what I want to know our people not learning everyone goes out and buys a rowing machine or a treadmill or an ice-cream maker everybody does it and they just keep doing it what's wrong with a rowing machine or a treadmill the fact that you use it six times what I've never done to use it yeah but those people are one in a thousand that's true that's weak we we have a chocolate fountain just like those ones you'd see it like a party or a wedding yeah I don't ask you why but every time how many times did you guys use that we've never used it but we've lent it out plenty of times so basically if you give js2 cents doesn't end up working out for you then you're going to start up a like pointless white people appliances rental house kitchen wounds yeah yeah there is probably a business there like like my parents my parents bought the bought the slicer machine the like v-shaped bleh where you can like slice fries out of a potato and just like one thing we had the BAM --ax which by the way did pay for itself in homemade mayonnaise you can make mayonnaise in like minutes or a mix I'm not trying to sell you the bad mix okay but you know we had that line that is so I really didn't know there was that many people into homemade mayonnaise yeah but I don't think there are a lot of people into it so much as there are a few people that are really into it so that make sense anyway my my take on the home pod is okay it's got seven beamforming speakers and a four inch subwoofer and apparently Apple is really excited about the sound quality they're going after the Sonos play three with extra functionality if it does all this stuff really well then great but one of the things I love so much about Sonos is that whether I'm using an iPhone or an Android device this week I can use it regardless so I have to see how again that's not a use case for like almost anybody well okay I can go over to my parents house and regardless of what kind of phone I'm using I can tap into so know some place in music which is pretty cool well how about the fact that the Sonos is also its own music server too you can just offload your favorites and create playlists on the phone oh on your own songs on your own network regardless of what devices are hooked up to it isn't it just speakers so knows ya know it's like panic can it answer how tall is an average draft no they can't do that so then it's not really the same thing though but the logic being that if I'm going to buy a pod or whatever their home pod if I'm going to buy a home pod I probably already have one of these in my pocket now I get a lot of somos mail because I've signed up for their stuffs like one of the few newsletters I actually pay attention to and I there was some early talk like late last year earlier this year about there being an assistant in development so I don't know like a new assistant from Sonos probably wouldn't be very good considering what Apple and Wright and Microsoft have been helped to do in this long of a time but who knows and Entering out terrible everything is yeah honestly I have no faith in a Sonos home assistant I just don't need a home assistant no but you're not like here something older all these use cases for smart appliances let's talk smart appliances for a minute ok I'm going to lose now okay all these use cases they're like yeah okay my what what is it you can on juicer needs to be connected to the Internet you're here no longer work like I forget who it was I think with Samsung showing a smart washer and dryer yeah and they're like yeah you could like control your washer and dryer from a distance I'm like you mean instead of when I actually put the bloody clothes in yeah yeah getting notification lead on your life done correctly we have an LG smart refrigerator okay okay what's it what's it do why could why would I care it warns you like when the filters need to be changed if a door got left open if it's under temperature a light on the front of the fridge couldn't do that well if the door got left open in your upstairs because you're going to bed again on the front of the rug an 8 year old child we have a we have a piece of paper on our fridge at work saying please remember to close the fridge it works for like 2 days to do it I'm just saying these things are completely useless and I think considering my comment about normies being more into Google home and all that kind of stuff the Apple home pod might do better for them than the watch did so targeting people who can't figure out how to close their fridge no but at the same time like like like you say it's not going to be very helpful for you because you won't be chopping vegetables because you're not the Malorie most now now ours this also is hard oh it's a whoa shot okay you go first day but I have to address the shots fired over there okay ours is that we're not doing those ones that will like tell you what your lo of in the fridge and automatically link it to your Amazon fresh cart and whatnot I mean we we do have the Amazon fresh like scanner thing my wife likes to use that but there's refrigerators out there that will can tell when you're low on milk and it would like automatically order it for you okay we take and go that far I can I could but I can actually see that being useful where's the more rudimentary stuff I don't know if I care as much about okay and back to your I don't need to convert metric to imperial because I actually already noted you want to five mils tablespoon 15 mil don't care one codger conversion 250 mils a leader is approximately a course with a little water a gallon is four liters approximately it's about 3.7 5 liters ok I can convert this crap in my head I don't need an iPod I always hate American so I need the help ok but not everyone can and what if your kid ask you a question and it's something super weird and I'm going to make it up because that's half the fun of being a parent daddy what what does it giraffe do all day well son giraffes actually play a long poker people don't know this because you look at those hoops and you think gee how do they even hold the cards but giraffe like you can see it's endless ok you know you make it up no problem my dad made things up to me and I turned out just fine I say that explains a lot [Laughter] Brandon is yelling debatable laughing crap Brandon um alright let's talk about the new IMAX because I think basically this explains how AMD managed to remain so secretive about Vega because AMD leaks everything but it seems like if you're going to collaborate with Apple and Apple wants to be the one to announce the first desktop you know Vega graphics card then people probably ran around the office going ok no for real this time for real this time week bank ok don't leak Vega Apple wants to do it and if we don't sell them to Apple we're not going to have a lot of customers no I'm salty about the whole thing ok alright so it hit me well ok so a.m. AMD is kind of rebasing its whole foundation right of community oriented gamer oriented and we've been waiting for Vega for quite a while right but I feel a little bit stabbed to the back by AMD that they're launching it in an Apple product first I mean that's kind of where I'm at with that so when the news came out I basically just kind of like facepalm and then turned it off because at that point I just felt like I just felt like AMD sold out on that one now it's now it's no news that AMD graphics have been in MacBook Pros and that's for a while but I just feel I just feel like the Vega that everyone's been waiting for kind of going to a knot or out for rate and I don't like it either but I'm willing to give them a little bit of benefit of the doubt listening to what you're saying I hear that but we all know that they need as much money as possible that was there was some amount of like they're going to make more from this if there's some amount of temporary exclusivity deal or something then yeah I'm willing to give it to them because I'm negative only if it's only Vega Pro then I guess I kind of make sense but we're still waiting for more kind of gamer or mainstream Vega but silver right now to my knowledge Apple is the only Tier one computer maker that not not forget about being exclusive to AMD Radeon Apple is the only Tier one PC maker that even emphasizes AMD Radeon so I do understand why Apple is getting some special treatment here because even like so I got a press release today that Acer is doing like a $7.99 budget gaming desktop I was actually thinking yet we might actually pull it in for review because cool it's uh it's right and based okay yeah they still put a 1050 in it Wow and it's just like not okay so part of a problem is that supply is really tight on the RX cards cryptocurrency mining it again super important again came back room but part of it too is that like they're competitive but they're they're not like they're not like you know a green team crushing solution at at any level in the products that which that is so salty that you said Tier one what tier one is like a term you can define I know it's not it's not an attorney I know upset I mean they're gonna hate who the rest of the tier ones are okay Dell HP Lenovo what what did you think what do you think I was going to say like Zeus ms:i I'm sorry those got a bug those guys are Tier one motherboard manufacturers yeah but in the PC system space solo enterprise they are what a bind okay I'm sorry get over it so let's talk a little bit about the device that Vega graphics are going into I may do a dedicated video on this actually just kind of discussing this but J hit me with your thoughts on an iMac Pro um okay so should I should I do some approximate specs for the viewers before do you kind of launch into it or yeah because I was kind of yeah one of something sure okay so let's let's do some contacts for you guys so much like the Mac Pro this is a balls-to-the-wall machine we're talking up to 18 cores eon we're talking up to 128 gigs of ECC Ram we're talking radeon vega graphics a 5k display four Thunderbolt 3 ports with support for external GPUs so that Vega GPU however they're implementing it whether it's MXM or whether it's baked right into the PCB is upgradeable in a manner speaking up to a 4 terabyte SSD a 10 bit panel new black peripherals cause that's important UHS 2 SDX cargill that might be into the home pod in a few dues 500 watt power supply 1080p webcam starting at $5,000 I mean this to me looks like a pretty bananas machine but it's in an all-in-one yeah I'm a little surprised that they spent so much emphasis on specs because given kind of where they've been over like let's just say the last eight years I mean you can still buy an i7 dual core right MacBook Pro so it just seems it just seems kind of surprising to me that they actually are going with the top-tier Hardware this time around because Apple has always been about software optimizations right yes so I'm kind of wondering here Ian you buy my product not a spec sheet right Marian given the price suspects I don't say end effect that's Apple I actually don't think that price is really like out of whack I think it's right in line with where it should be because you could build a similar Intel based system to the same specs and spend just as much yeah and that's that's true depending though on what we are actually getting for five grand that might be maybe that's not Vega and maybe that's I mean it's certainly not an 18 Rob it does it does say it starts Vista starts with eight cores Ian so that would be maybe is it eight core it does it have eight gigs of RAM right like we roll up to 15k yeah you never know how much apples going to kneecap something honestly for me the thing that I'm that I really take exception with and the thing that again I might do like some kind of a follow-up video on here is that they are but that they're calling it Perl that people that the pro users got upset when they took away the tower that you can put expansion cards in and they gave us a cylinder that you can clip that you can plug expansion devices into and that now you know and they did say earlier this year that they're going to have something to address the pro user I guess what I want to know is was this it because to me professional means modular upgradable it means a path to continue using it and the other thing that really upsets me and that makes that makes apple's desktop ecosystem almost impossible to support as a business owner is the unpredictability of it yeah if we go back for the last ten years so we just upgraded our editing workstations it was kind of time it had been three almost four years something like that and so let's say over a span of 10 years if our company were to have followed a typical upgrade cycle of three to four years we would have had towers we would have had cylinders we would have been stuck with old cylinders thinking holy crap are we going to have to just go straight to laptops and then Apple would have dumped an a i/o on us with that hold on a second I mean what if we just upgrade our displays apparently know the new pro version is coming probably sometime in 2018 okay which still doesn't address my fundamental problem with Apple not having a clear strategy in a professional environment I need to know what my upgrade path is right so that if I'm going to invest in a bunch of brand new 8k displays Ellen say exactly I need to know that the new machine that I'm going to have available to me is going to make any sense oh wait oh this one comes with a with a with a display already in it like I just I don't understand apples Pro lineup so that's kind of where I'm that's kind of where I'm going with that is this the first iMac Pro though I'm not sure yes it is I think okay yeah so they're just in there just introducing them the new Pro line of IMAX but for the so then okay based on the hardware available in the iMac is the new MacBook Pro or CD the new Mac Pro coming out in 2018 going to be essentially the same hardware in a tower format with a i/o water-cooling again I mean I was kind of wonder what the next tier of hardware could be I kind of wonder - like I would love for Apple to just go straight back to basics here's a tower here's where the expansion cards go here's how you add a fricking hard drive that's connected to a SATA interface instead of connected to a thunderbolt interface for some reason their desktop side of their enterprise has always been more concerned with the form factor than anything else yeah so I don't know that's that's where I'm at on that I'm glad that they do have a legitimate professional you know high-end great option but I'm frustrated that Pro products are being treated as basically disposable rather than being able to upgrade the graphics which is good but the fact that we're doing this over thunderbolt means that there is going to be some kind of bottleneck that exists already and can only get worse so we did a fairly thorough I think investigation where we looked at alien wares graphics amplifier versus the razor core and found that already with a top two 10 atti there are performance differences between a straight PCIe interface and Thunderbolt 3 with all the extra overhead and people criticized us they said we'll loan this no one's going to put a 1080 TI in that thing and I'm sitting here going well that wasn't the point the point is that three years from now when it is time to upgrade your graphics card something with the power of a 1080 Ti is going to cost $1.99 yeah and that's exactly what you're going to put in it yeah well I just played around Thunderbolt 3 for the first time earlier this year with you know the external graphics card solutions and that's a lot of thing that you did in fact it was so this performance degradation was so bad over even thrown about three that I had to get confirmation that the anywhere between 25 to 35 percent performance loss was normal so oh yeah that's normal okay then what's the point of buying top tier graphics like this when it's just going to dumb down to a tear or to lower on the graphics solution so like like you're saying though if using an interface like that is the option to speak forwards compatible then you're just cutting yourself off at the knees and the ankles everything as you go forward one note about this new iMac I don't know what versions I know there's the pro and I believe there's gone pro new versions yeah the only thing I've seen is of the non pro but I'm assuming it's the same for both yes the CPU and the RAM are both replaceable yep that was true of previous iMac but not GPU still but not like we're talking about anyways okay so that's frustrating um and I kind of doubt people are going to be super hardcore throttled by at least the CPU part of that you might be able to get away with the classic Mac thing where you buy the one with less ram and then upgrade the RAM yourself because it's way freakin cheaper but who knows I don't know it's interesting yeah so I don't know I still haven't decided if I'm going to do a piece on it it kind of depends whether I can sort of come up with a coherent enough argument but it is something that I've wanted to talk about for quite some time apples sort of schizophrenic approach to professional prodigy overs who's Merrick bro oh lordy I don't well I don't necessarily so it's too early in the surface product lineup in yeah for me to really talk about you know Microsoft strategy because right now it's really hard to tell what it is I can't discuss one creator family whatever that really means yeah whatever creator means I mean this thing spanks the surface studio on paper anymore why is good for me yeah and upgradability will hi Stevens yeah service studio is horrible now your nightmare to get into yeah um so should we do the big announcement the reason that Jays on the show today no yeah to do that now actually no what no what we're kidding to is do it after the ad Wow so why don't we why don't we do our sponsor callouts first yeah um hold on I just want to do I want to do a quick tweet you want to start one of them and then not Jade should we just we'll just we'll just put you away for now okay I'll duck out of the way okay cool I'm going to conveniently start with savage for jerky yeah yeah dog can I have some which is this any box this is not a new box oh okay oh yeah probably I mean how does jerky go bad yeah okay should I take on the reaper today what did you do last time I don't remember I think I did the second thought the one with that 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back in now so Jay you want to do the honors what exactly what why why were you in the credits for all the episodes did you take away my bacon No where did my bacon go we never make it random rage no oh wait yeah that is buffle ok I'm not upset anymore ok ok carry on sorry I was about to get real real angry cuz I thought my bacon jerky was gone ok carry on Jay I think it's funny because I think IDI put the credit suffer after the first episode I think the credits were up and showed me their yeah right next to Jonathan who could have said their thanks for learning and putting it when we needed it and other stuff right and some folks there's some pretty sharp people out there in the audience and they were like oh I guess we know who the celebrity judge is like no clearly I loaned them equipment that's why I'm down here I'd like like that Tweety guy because I was trying to this is probably the hardest secret ever kept we're like what 3 months like 3 months past this it's been arrived yeah so I always be the guest celebrity judge on the RDB Factor uh-huh so uh scrapyard Wars Episode four have you seen it yet I have you have okay just okay so you got early access to it so scrapyard Wars Episode four is coming this weekend I think it's going to be on Sunday and without any spoilers I think it's fair to say this J is a very impactful member of the character for the fourth and final episode he not only you know did what he did as our celebrity guest he also lent us his studio space which was very generous and he hung out with us until the wee hours of the morning because how many messages did I send you saying yeah hey we're not coming yet it's going to be later hey actually it's going to be later right now talking just stand around for a little while okay III I think there's an opportunity to sit on the couch here and watch some TV and some Netflix something I never get to do cuz I clean the studio right like okay I want a fresh slate for you guys you'll set up however you want it to you know take take rain in space I only moved in two weeks prior to that so it was pretty empty right compared to now like you have to because walk sideways you go down the hallway but ya know it was it was it was fun because I got to see scrapyard Wars for the first time literally from the finale backwards because it's like okay I see how it ends I know how it ends but have no idea how we got here so it was really weird even for me you know because I knew you kept saying these texts like we're delayed we're sorry we're delayed we're sorry and I'm just like oh my god what is going on over there I'm thinking this better make for some good drama and it didn't disappoint so for those of you who want to watch scrapyard wars episode 4 early I'm actually posting a link in the chat floatplane club is our early access platform that we've got over on the Linus tech tips forum that we would love to open up to other creators at some points are II I think some of those costs are legitimate cuz the jerky no not all of them but this is the maple bacon jerky okay now that stuff's fine only only the worst of content creators would consider such a platform yeah early access you got nothing but hurt the audience except when they don't notice that it's happening yeah except when that happens yeah also you know it kind of helps the creator there is the whole ad pocalypse thing going on yeah I know if anybody noticed that yeah alright okay but that is literally killing should we get back to maybe about 10 more minutes and news and then we'll bid adieu to J and bring on Nikki V for one final and show stream yeah dude um actually okay we kind of touched on this but this is sort of sort of a big deal AMD's GPU supply exhausted by cryptocurrency so I'll go ahead and screen share you're real quick here so if you've been running out there trying to buy an Rx for 70 or are up excuse me 570 sorry any or any of them Lesley Freudian slip a 570 or a 580 yeah you've probably had a bit of a hard time because people are let's see let's have a look at what this stuff is so what are these coins I don't even know have you been keeping up with this day only a little bit see I realized it was starting to pick back up in popularity when it was becoming difficult to sources because I'm getting to the point where I'm just kind of buying and building the systems on my own right not taking sponsorship on everything so I went and tried to legitimately buy these for for a video and I'm like I can't get any rx based graphics card 400 or 500 series and it was just like what a hex I started researching it and it seems like we've gone full circle right because at the beginning everyone wanted less power consumption and and they wanted the auto camera with what it's actually called when they do the hashing or whatever right and they wanted they wanted more efficiency on that so they kind of started coming across with these custom-built computers I think Jerry did a really good video about you know the progression of Bitcoin mining and then I don't understand how we got back to here though well it looks like it's aetherium mining that people are really into right now series okay yeah so I actually had someone internally pitching to me that we should do a Bitcoin mining update now like not Bitcoin but cryptocurrency mining update and I was like oh really that again and I didn't really look into it I really should have because then we could have been a little bit more more topical on and pretty huge yeah but what's what happened again Bitcoin right now because no matter what people are mining they're all converting it out anyways so yeah Bitcoin is equal to three thousand seven hundred ninety-four Canadian dollars so there's a big gold rush again basically yeah I can try to have US dollars which is that's one whole but going right because I didn't say also you get them in bits right yes you get par so it's two thousand eight hundred and twenty four ish US dollars per Bitcoin which makes huge if you can see the care harassed by can you say jak 1 BTC 2 USD so I'm going to go ahead and share that with the audience here you know so they go the chartered seas you can see the big yeah you can see a Papa goldrush fabulous 2014 8 2013 early 2014 oh sorry that was mid 2014 yeah now they did a crock cool dolls and it was juice mm-hmm and then in the last since since the end of last year it's gone from like 500 bucks to over 2000 and it's very close to over 3k which is pretty insane yeah I'll be incredible so once again I've missed out once again I suck at everything but I'm I'm over it ah what else we got here um pci express 4.0 specs finalize the original articles from tech report and also in other news PCI Express 5.0 with announced ray so it's going to be 16 Giga transfers per second on tap so basically we're doubling it again so that's really important on the server side of things am less important for consumers so yeah I mean I guess is cool in the sense that like consumer platforms that don't have as many PCIe lanes will be able to run like I mean at this point you're going to be able to run in what a 1x slot or like a like a 4x lot what you used to be able to run in a hold on a second so that would be an 8 X 2 16 okay hold on a second you're going to be able to run in like a 2 X slot which I believe does exist but no one implements it I recall correctly what you would have been able to run in a 16 X lot back in Gen 1 so that's that's cool right pretty cool that's cool are we excited throwing stuff into big 16 X slot things isn't really going to be a big difference though um yeah so it still needs to undergo a final review by some scale of 1 to 10 J how excited I mean I I don't do my workflow doesn't really matter that much on on PCIe throughput but yeah is there a timeline on that um well right now it still needs a couple little things one big question is whether or not AMD and Intel will even ball they're to implement PCIe gen four on consumer parts the havea whoa yeah the time line could be who knows yeah on the server side of things though PCIe Gen 5 which will double it again designed to offer 128 gigabytes per second of total bandwidth will allow us to have 400 gigabit per second Ethernet solutions like that are super sick cool so that's like amazing yeah oh this is fun we're already like we have like no contact at Samsung whatsoever because we suck but we saw this earlier this morning we're like yet need to get our hands on some of that Samsung announced I think it's a 32 by 132 by 9 sorry a wide aspect ratio monitor Venus have you got this yeah it's like three four by threes yeah that's ridiculous it that that is curved but yeah it is you have what three sync yeah for gamers that's pretty wild 144 Hertz 1ms response time HDR 10 free sync to quantum dot all that there all those all the buzz works Samsung's one of those companies were like they have world-class display technology and just no idea yeah like I stopped by their booth I think it was like to see ESS ago and they were showing off like a free sync monitor and they didn't have the refresh rate and nobody in the whole booth I swear I asked like eight people including like the guy who was in charge of the monitor section knew the refresh rate I'm just like you know that's actually like the important spec well I can only monitor right it's kind of like when I was shopping at Fry's Electronics so if you guys had those up there but Fry's is a big electronic store here in the states and yeah I was shopping for panels I was looking at high refresh rate stuff and they had them all hooked up to HDMI so it was like not a single panel was actually displaying anything towards like what possibly could I tried to explain to the to the manager of that section I like you need to put display ports on these he was like no that's HDMI it's fine a curious audio to them like yes they'd not get boring dude my wife has hit me on that one and even cheat me more and she like doesn't care about any of this stuff she was like yeah I don't think that's supposed to look that way terrible alright last one before we bring on Nikki V Intel coffee Lake CPUs delayed so the rumor that Intel is going to be releasing six and four core coffee Lake processors on their main stream platform this year it seems to have been quashed it will instead be apparently and this is all rumors sometime in February of 2018 can you imagine how much of a better position Intel would be in today if they had brought six core before AMD launched driving yeah if KB Lake was six core I think they could have but they got very complacent over the last decade on theirs out on their own roadmap and in fishing stuff off I think this should begin the - and J collab angry session angry that the anger the tuna and I talk I want to I want to say something real quick I took a lot of flack like are just copying line is cuz it a viral video I said that day in Computex I looked at Nick and I said Monday we're recording this we're recording my thoughts on this this is days before you and I ever talked about it and before your video ever went up the difference if you took advantage of walking in the rain we took advantage of walking in the rain you wait for that whole like depressing I'm surprised that you ever edited that video didn't put a gray hue on there to and just make it super depressing but I saw that video I was like you but no I had I had to do it anyway I mean okay there's so many things you talk about right I mean I shot that video like four times I kept kind of dumbing it down to like I was rambling so long on that and but there's so many things that are wrong with that all the way down to a paywall four raid I mean what the hell man haha I I liked that one I don't even know cuz like I'll tell you this like even on the server side so I recently rolled out an nvme storage server so it's got 48 nbme bays and I actually had some issues with Intel's rst enterprise drivers where it's limited to maximum 12 Drive and that was just like a tech limitation that was like a driver limitation it wasn't like a paywall thing they weren't asking for anything it just straight-up had no way to do that and I actually wanted to run Chipo our ste raid5 on that high-speed math and the reason for that is that I'm doing real-time replication of that Nazz to a separate box so ultimately if I only have one drive of redundancy or it just kind of craps the bed I'm going to switch everybody over we're going to be editing off the other box while I rebuild it and gave it mean it'll be inconvenient but it's not the end of the world yeah so I couldn't do that because of like a driver limitation well now I'm wondering if I'm not going to be able to do that unless I buy an expensive dongle because if they're doing it on X 299 yeah get like two more minutes if they're doing it on X 299 then they're probably going to do it on the server side too right yeah I guess they could probably go both ways right if they're if you are you paying the enterprise solutions on this on the server side of things maybe it would be implemented but then again that kind of sucks too I mean because then you're talking about double standards in terms of their of they're just a bit mentality regarding how they want to implement and roll out this stuff to me this honestly feels like they just were caught off guard by a lot of of things happening in the industry right now and I feel like what it kind of flipped on them a little bit is their official response regarding Verizon was I felt like the consumers are going to take a wait-and-see mentality regarding how well they want to adopt rise in I don't know I feel like everyone jumped on rise in and now I wants to wait and see with Intel yeah because I mean that is such an ignorant like why would why would people wait and see when I see what you're either building a computer or you're not yeah and of course Verizon like every other new lunch had some had some growing pains in the start but so did x99 you know and so I mean it's one of those things were like today and that was a big thing I asked a lot of the the motherboard manufacturers and ODMs out there at Computex was are things better on Rison now and they all really assured me like yeah things have matured the drivers are good the memory stability and support is there compatibility is good and they basically were telling me like hey you should you should maybe try out rise in a bit again because I did it for the first 30 days it lodged had a couple of weird idiosyncrasies there but then I just kind of moved on to my Intel system which is already together and I use it for work yeah but I find myself now like okay I should probably I should probably on it take another crack at it but I would love to see the thread Ripper stuff only because like just like your workflow it's like I would I could take advantage of all of those course yeah but even the 1,800 X is a good is a good place to to look at for absolutely sheep Enterprise Solution I wouldn't convert all of our editing machines over any time soon just because like I mean you know what we're gonna have a video coming out where we roll all of our editing machines up to ten core 6950 X's and already on our early access people are like yo what what the heck intel has new stuff what about thread Ripper what about this what about that ability isn't it man I'm iris ponded there and I'll respond proactively now to everybody else it is no coincidence that about six months or four months before x99 launched all our editing machines moved to 49 60 X's on X 79 yeah there is something to be said for something that is powerful enough and has had three years to work out all the potential issues when you're talking about a workstation for what you for what we do maturity is way better for us than just raw power and cutting edge bleeding edge technology they call it bleeding edge for a reason yeah and if it was for myself no problem I'll run whatever random crap beta drivers whatever but if I have a room of not necessarily techie people that are going to come to me every time there's an issue with it yeah nah man I like the scooter 50 X isn't new either no it's not imagine that great immediately went to launch I'm doing exactly the same thing yeah I'm going at the end of the platform cycle yeah and I have a little problem with that out of curiosity what's your take on 69 50 X versus 7900 Kayden Garcia Isaac's 900 so eighty particular reason the XQ because the whole upgrade sponsored by Intel and if I can ask for anything I want I might as well take the 69 50x it does perform in my benchmarking I did a whole video on this a while back marginally better good margin was plus plus he just exited sounds cooler yeah they have Exxon all the new ones anyway Jane I have to give the people what they want guys if you love Jay then you can check them out over at youtube.com slash Jays two cents that's Jay with a Zed not to be confused with Jay Z that guy has a - Jays does not also over on twitter at @anjghie tech man who's too salty about no wait what is what is your Twitter handle again if that Jay is two cents right yeah I'm cross branded properly hey Pat enough of your crap man alright anyway so guys go check out Jay over there thanks Jay for coming on the show and I'm sorry I have to kind of kick you off ever watch episode four go yes do that alright thanks Evan me okay thanks man I'm just gonna hang up no problem yeah all right so this is it my friends this is your last chance for Q&A with the one the only Mickey V who has some of his a civic cake with him so this was a this was a parting gift for for the one and only Nicki B it's his last day today it's a it's a cake in the shape of V of the Civic it looks pretty good is a very good recreation homemade Yvan homemade yeah and that's good cake - except one minor detail that I can't leave oh yes these tires these are brown and you know that the rims on that thing are orange I noticed I thought remember that your Civic rims are looking a little faded these days mm-hmm I don't think we did enough coats the rims are little faded yeah you know want to know something funny about the Civic well how long do you think it's been since we painted it uh it was in the spring I think no I don't know maybe a year and a half you're okay so um we moved in here I think two years ago so it's been almost two years that's a long time that car has not been washed yeah inside or out oh I know inside it isn't that time so if the paint were to be damaged or faded now it makes sense then but you know what I think maybe maybe that maybe the rims aren't fading though maybe they're just covered in dirt but how are those windshield wipers holding out they are most excellent they're most excellent to learn okay we got the questions rolling in who is going to prank Dennis now who are you handing the mantle over to I would say who's got the capability I think you have the pranking capability but you don't have the time I think Colton has the time but doesn't have the ability maybe Colton maybe he's the next prankster but I don't know I think there's some people who could set up a pretty good prank all right and of course the number one question will get this out of the way so people ask other questions where are you going I am going to the Linus tech tips of biking called pink bike comm it's like if you didn't know what by like if you weren't really a mountain bike or anything you probably wouldn't know about it but if you had stepped foot on a mountain biker if you've ever bought one or anything like that it is like the the hub it's like the the only source there's other websites but this is sort of the og gangster-ass website that started in Calgary and then kind of like grew as the sport became a sport from nothing so pretty pretty awesome so this is as much a question for me as anyone else what exactly will you be doing there I'll be making videos I'll be running around with a guy named Brett Tippie he's like I would say the only person I know that is comparable in energy level to you I would have I would I would run a pole like if people who know the new boasts both people I don't know who has more energy you or him so it would be it would be a pretty pretty good pretty good battle but I'll be making videos and doing some web content and stuff for them and and you know how things biking just trying to share my love of biking with the world you know so I'm pretty excited got someone asking will you collab we like a lab there's not a lot of overlap but I think it's impossible I saw the overlap and I've seen it with my very own eyes nearly it's it would be a Terran ebike thing of course so lordy but he bikes or now like he bikes have always just been like kind of a laughing joke of mountain biking like no who wants to ride any but they're getting lighter yeah they're getting lighter and they're liking them more like off-road capable and now there's some ebikes that are like somebody was explaining it like the whole stigma around them is that they're stupid they're unnecessary it's just a bike industry involved like innovating to make people spend more money on that they don't need sorry it's a swore on here um but the what am I gonna do fire you yeah I guess so you said today hey you can pull the look on me today one time I actually fire someone and it actually means anything but they're getting better in like the regard that somebody was somebody explained it to me really well they're like well you know how downhill racing oh I'm falling away downhill racing and stuff is always like really intense and whatever but now you could have it where you know you're riding downhill and that's all scary and stuff but then you're also like really accelerating uphill which is kind of awesome too okay so what's going to happen to the Nikki V character we've got people asking you I don't know do we spoil it I don't know I don't know what happens I actually don't know well we do know what happened I know I'm looking good for oh no he's been if he if he doesn't die from you know health issues from all that pain inhalation and you know drinking soft sand and all these sorts of things that are just really not you know we're gonna make you into a healthy person I think he's going to suffer some serious health complications in the future but you know that's just for me I don't know he probably has another opinion on that ah let's see what else we got coming in here is very YouTube channel that Nikki V will be on and I think they mean Nick van Berkel I mean me I'm not going to try and beat that character to death I've tried to keep it as minimal like I know there's lots of it but it's something that can very easily be overdone I would just try to do it once in a while I probably won't be doing that on my channel but if you want to see my personal YouTube channel that is always existed yeah you should have known about if you wanted to see it it's just called Burkle and I post a video there like probably two times a year if that maybe once here maybe I'll put some more up I don't know well like when you do videos full time for a YouTube channel sometimes you like doesn't really have time or energy to work on your own channel so it kind of gets in a cloud fit in okay I've got a tough one I'm going to put you on the spot Shogun potion asks what is your favorite memory at LG hmmm favorite memory probably most intense memory was that prank where you rob the house and because that was like five things at once it was we had a good day like actually painting the car this is all in the same day we went to line as this house at like 9 a.m. or something I started painting the car then we did something else we played badminton or something we ate pizza it was like a great summer day we come back and then all of this crap goes down with the with the robbery and like I was never been so fooled and so pranked in my life that I like I was like I don't know me but again no I don't think so I don't think so Dennis tried to get me with that tinder prank and he almost did like the one where it was like somebody messaging me about like like hey it's bubble bluff from tinder and then I was like wait I have a tender but I'm very like uninvolved in the actual conversation part I just literally have it's almost like a game I don't use it or like I use it but I don't like follow up but then I was like what the hell and then immediately after I'm like closing my phone that's when Dennis comes by with the camera like got you is like doll you didn't I knew this all along so we've got a lot of people asking about LTX and okay guest spots and I'll kind of jump in this is something these are two things or at least one of them that we've discussed and I think it's kind of like this is an amicable breakup but it's still a breakup so I don't think either side is really talking about like you know here what are all the things that we're going to do together in the future the doors not being closed no and I don't think I don't think anyone's saying that they would refuse to walk through a door that was open we're just we're kind of going okay we're going our separate ways and everything everything's good there's cake um it's been a hell of a ride yeah it's actually crazy looking back in it because now it seems like not a long time but then when you think of all the things that we've done in the meantime we've been crazy there's been like years worth of the pace that we go at here I think is like maybe some other places like five 10 years of work that's the amount of memory are you expecting a slower pace because like I was you know I've done a lot of reflecting like I'm brettelmer at all like Germany like Mexico trip which was like hectic it felt like we were down there for months but like looking back at it there was actually a lot of like crazy kind of fun stuff tonight I do think some of stuff is the same pace like I am I've worked with these guys once before in California and it was really high paced but the one funny thing was like because I'm so used to like a crazy crazy turnaround that we've had here for the last out on all three years going to do something where it's like okay this is gonna be stressful event you got to get like you got to get a like two videos done today I was like no problem I've been doing this everyday for like the last three years it feels like fishin this would be a breeze but I don't know everything's new challenge so I don't know pace will probably be pretty high whatever you do you set the pace right so let it burn myself out of that sorry well there'd be a replacement editor actually I mean this is something that it comes down to sort of responsible business management you know Nick had cut back to 60% earlier this year so we had already proactively hired an additional editor just in case cuz I mean it's not been a secret ever that your passion is biking and snowboarding like I remember someone I'm not going to name any names but someone before we hired you said I'm not sure how long he'll last because a real passion is biking consider forking with you know I'm funny I mean you came into a group where you already knew a lot of the people and they obviously knew you fairly well so I remember I remember even when the job was offered I'd screamed it down and said I'm not gonna take this job and you like you know what come down and then I was convinced easily that's it a high five yeah never give me a hug no no you can hug on one so you can do anything you want on land show as long as it gets which nipple showy yeah yeah oh oh all right buddy all right get out of here - volta crossing the line people are asking what's going to happen to channel super fun um we don't know actually Channel super fun Nick or not Nick has had kind of had some challenges over the last couple of years we don't know if it makes any sense the entire twitch chat is cringing so hard Colton so thank you for that that was the most Awkward hug Finn's like my beard uncle what's that I don't know I don't know have a great weekend see you later Colton like yeah what caused it Charles everyone's changed so much because it was it started out as just a side thing for fun when there is downtime or like us I think to try something out that didn't fit on the other channels then it kind of turned into like oh crap these numbers are actually getting pretty good this might be a legitimate Channel and then like taking a different shirt I don't know what these are they're good oh if you label Buffalo's a literal piece of bacon right on um yeah change so much that you know you don't want to keep beating something to death if it isn't like organically growing so I think just maybe a different approach or whatever like you notice that over the past a little bit but there's some good golden era of channel Superfund episodes that I still love so much Carolina Reaper Turkey I've eaten all of that jerky I'll tell you one thing it is delicious there's one of them know that like just killed the insides of me it's too hot like you feel it like everywhere it just destroys your your entire inside so watch out for that one um all right I don't seem I don't actually see much else here they want you to bring - cat tips back yeah yeah I don't how off I don't do that bring cold water on that growing flower growing oh I I don't remember the last time I uploaded something there to be honest it's just like it's so it comes down to when you're busy making videos like a real channel because the idea behind - cat tips is it would just be me like tooling around at home like playing with my cats or whatever and like the last thing I want to do when I have a minute to like sit down and like cuddle with my cat is like get a camera like I want to look at a camera well that's been the same thing with like my channel like I've always just put randoms whatever project I had been working on that I needed to put somewhere on that YouTube channel I'm but yeah like when you're if your week consists of like shooting and editing when you get off work and you're like oh okay I need to go do something outside or something like anything not related to what I've just been sitting and doing for lost you know eight nine whatever hours yeah it's kind of hard to like make a video at that point but sometimes you can we got people asking if you're going to make a goodbye video if you're going to do final touch-ups on the the Lamborghini and to that I will say we have something special in mind as a final as a final video so stay tuned this won't be the last time you see them but this is the last time you'll physically be in the building the last one will be live that's right I'm live are you going to become a daily vlogger I hope that nobody thinks that that's what stuff to me like I'm like I hope nobody thinks I'm gonna let go and try and be a all right now my main focus is my youtube channel where I'm gonna daily vlog my like no that's such a sad like spin off thing I see so many people do that like I don't know I can't I don't know anyone named in particular but it's like and then they make the first videos like why I left BuzzFeed or whatever and it's like that video will probably do well because people be like oh why did the stood then they watch it and then it's like then you can't follow that up with like oh this is what I ate this morning and then nystatin yeah I just know that's never been my style come on you guys why I left by the speed slash SourceFed are we going to see that video why I left line of textin yeah cat and then that thumbnail is going to be like me like this like no that's no come on who wants to watch that people want a spoof of that yeah you know what so it's not a terrible idea house can make that video no all right so it's after 6:00 and the last thing I can do for people who are officially not on the clock anymore is keep them here after work hours last thing I have for you is a final parting gift odd card well you might not want to read it now it is actually a reference letter oh wow you already have a job Wow thank you very much I figure you might not last long at it well thank you very much appreciate so I proactively wrote that up for you thank you very much I think it calls for an on-camera hug lemon all right I'm getting my bid all right and hashtag awkward I wanted to keep it for just too long that's been a hell of a three-year Jenna I appreciated them all right thanks guys for tuning in thanks to you for being here and we will see you guys again next week saying that time same bat Channel thank you all right