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Breaking our Silence on RTX Controversy - WAN Show August 31, 2018

2018-08-31
and I think we're alive but this is really really scary Wow because theoretically we are live on both twitch and YouTube o at the same time do we even have the engine power for that yes we do we have very much and it's called computer processing power because one does not go live on the internet with an engine you're thinking of driving down the road oh but that's ok I forgive you for being not quite as technical I thought for sure it was engines I don't know well how many cores past where it is for this ok I managed to guess it yay all right I have a special guest co-host today ooh it looks like we are live on Twitch so that's good but I have no idea if we are live on YouTube and because I don't really watch youtube videos I actually don't even know how to find out if we're live on YouTube I guess I could go to the dashboard and view the channel yes my friends say this will be the first week theoretically yes we are we are live right now Wow Wow Wow so this is the first week that we are live on both twitch TV and YouTube and we had a lot of our viewers express concern that twitch was going to kick us out of the cool kids club and they could very well do that but unfortunately there just isn't a whole lot that we can do about it so we we had a couple of options there's there's a service that you can use where you can you can push to this external service and then it will propagate to all the different services that you want but being the big nerds that we are around here what we ended up doing was putting a virtual machine on one of our servers that runs an rtmp server so it's some nginx thing and then what's that is that Anthony ok I thought I heard Anthony's voice and I assumed there was some kind of catastrophic problem cause on the lookout for an Anthony or two yeah cuz he he basically he he and Jake actually worked together to get everything set up for this week and going to twitch I knew - yes and we didn't have it working as of one hour ago oh when because something to do with the nginx config basically the way that we determine which services were streaming to is by copy pasting a particular string into the server and we copy pasted the wrong thing there's something apparently it's not like there's no UI for it it's all just Leshem and line there's a spellcheck yeah there should be thank you that's me right there's on the wages on the contribution I don't know how much he actually knows about the topics but I looked at these at all yeah but but he's pretty so hey that's what qualified him to fill in for Luke and James both of whom are not here today that means a lot coming from you - you're very welcome so so anyway so we're live on both twitch and YouTube which there's actually there's like there's different encoding settings that are optimal for each platform so basically what the server does is we stream into our server and then our server encodes it in the most optimal way for each platform while also recording a local high quality copy of the original stream for itself and then the machine that we're streaming from so in this case it's this box right over here the one that we we actually did a video on it we built our like corsair RGB man show streaming pc a little while ago right so that is also gonna save a high quality local copy to itself so the idea is that we are streaming to our multiple services and we are saving at least two original quality copies at any given time so we shouldn't run into a situation again where we are going to where will will screw up and we'll lose the lan show which actually hasn't happened in a long time but it had happened at times in the past well that sounds real fancy yes thank you you are you are enjoying the heckling is protecting yeah well no now I get to the tables have turned haha no no they can't see you so on don't give me swab but because he's really got a redo it was supposed to be like a Simpsons intro thing theoretically I should honey fresh books average turkey I will I will talk in more depth about our sponsors on the windchill aid honey fresh books Savage Turkey it sounds like the beginning of a rhyme but I welcome you know what I kind of want to find the old intro and show it to you guys here it is when intro dot MOV oh no these are some very old Apple makes em Oh peas you don't want to play those you know what should I you know what let's do it let's do it let's uh good wild yeah we're we're gonna go through we're gonna dig through the land show folder on the server whoa we're gonna find us some assets here just buckle in strap in boys and gals hey no this this could actually be cool don't make fun of me this is neat so we're digging through the archive so here's the wine show ah so here's the intro yeah there we go why don't we adjust the size of these these here these here thumbnails there so here's the swamp intro so this is the one you're probably familiar with I'm just gonna mute my computer here yeah there we go so there we go so that's the one that you're familiar with but there was a few people probably remember this but there was a version before this when intro oh gee Oh what where this he's walking he's walking and this is and now there's there's a trapper scene that yeah so but that's the same so Ed actually I think powered by Razor come oh wow that everyone still uses so so ed actually revealed this I think in a oh no that video is the GPD pocket - is that live yet yes it is so ed revealed his secret I don't know if I actually made it into the final cut of the video but he was like yeah the way to use copyrighted artwork is you turn it into pixel art and I'm like also is that pyramids thing so those pyramids are actual pyramids oh it's yeah so these these are actual pyramids I mean good luck ever figuring out what picture this is an actual wall those are the real pyramid yeah and this is a real spike no there's not a real spike that would be pretty spike although that would be a pretty impressive program that could turn a picture of a real wall of spikes into yeah into that yeah so so that was that was Ed's like mastered like deception so he was like oh yeah we could do a new one like all the time this takes like 30 seconds to just steal artwork and then pixel art I think somebody would have caught on eventually Yosh a medal yeah he doesn't want us to call it stealing sorry borrowing with style Wow Toy Story reference okay cool this isn't stealing its borrowing with style that would be a very different movie if that was what the actual line was so we got a lot of great topics for you guys today and also some pretty mediocre ones I think the US courts say that price caps don't apply to areas with only one is P we have a lot of notes on that also this is a rumor there's a lot of hearsay here that Nvidia will be controlling there Adam Bortner partners controlling their ability to seed the upcoming r-tx cards to the press through driver distribution and Tom's Hardware I wrote a real funny article it's hilarious oh yeah it was hilarious if it was on their onion yeah a lot of people thought it should have belonged on the onion that's for sure what else we got GlobalFoundries halts 7 nanometre development it's a big deal they've been on the leading edge of for a while and now they're not AMD has moved to tsmc for all of their Wawa okay so normally we do the intro after we introduce the topics for the day but clearly that isn't going to happen today because we already ran it we could already have fun but we've already run it a couple times if you were paying attention I'd already have gonna fly yeah um all right so why don't we jump right into how are you I'm good I've actually hardly believe it or not I I see Riley very little yeah honestly this is when you're like or Colton was like are you gonna host the wine show today I was like with Linus like I haven't even like talked to him the whole time I was here basically we've had like little conversations yeah we had a couple meetings and then like at the beginning where a lot of you probably noticed there were some some issues with some of the early episodes of tech linked like I think the very first one that I'm the heckler I'm just like talking like every 10 seconds it is well very annoying we were figuring out yeah you know the format and whatnot yeah who's heckling trying to find the right dynamic yeah that wasn't it there was also an early one that now this was this was a really frustrating story because do you remember the one where we miked up the heckler yes okay so we had a lot of people like quite literally everyone watched it we had a lot of people not like that the person off camera was also miked up yeah so it created this weird like disembodied voice right and I think it was too too loud in those episodes it was too loud because I think now where is we don't have the person the heckler miked but it's also that like you can't really hear them that well silly we might I was I was gonna talk to EDS all about like miking them but like making it's quiet I don't know well that was the intention that time yeah we never intended for the heckler to just sound so so I specifically asked Dennis I said hey so I'm miking myself up now yeah it was me so I'm making myself up today to be the heckler but I need to make sure because we don't want it to be like like like they're also hosting the video right I need to make sure is it quick for you to add reverb and turn down the volume right so that it sounds like they're off-camera he goes oh yeah no problem I go oh good and then I watch the video I'm like what we never did it so you're blaming Dennis for this Oh 100% oh I asked him the next day he's like oh I didn't have time and I'm like don't boy dennis is a dennis is a pure soul don't so I'm sitting here going I asked you if it's quick mm-hmm that's why I asked you if it's quick Co because I knew you wouldn't have a lot of time what we would need to do is just set up another boom mic but that's my work yeah but then it's like we have two mics on one set up we can't afford to do that yeah we actually can we actually have a couple of ntg-2 so that's - it's way too crazy I don't think we've used them in a couple of years to get the bike out of the package put it on the stand it's just don't get me started you know what's really funny is when Linus media group first started I would I would go into the NCIX studio mm-hmm and I would be very envious of all of the equipment that NCIX tek-tips had that was just like strewn around and random just in general like there was so much gear what are you what like completely I mean in the early days yeah like when Linus media group first started I thought you were talking about like when I was there I was like we have one camera two lights right we owned one microphone meanwhile NCIX tech tips had like wireless microphone isn't like this high tech stock oh yeah NCIX at the forefront of yeah yeah and and then and then it was it was just it was fun the contrast at the end there when I when I went to the NCIC auction felt like good you're like walking in you're like your guys's primary microphone which was I rode ntg-2 right that's right yeah your guys's primary microphone was sitting there up for auction oh yeah up for auction I wanted to go to the auction and I was like oh quaint and ntg-2 I remember those NT 2 and T 2 are NTG any ntg-2 whatever pretty sure ntg-2 I think it is ntg-2 okay good well anyway anyway I was like oh quaint we have a couple of those I don't think we've used them in a while in a file Oh perhaps we should have we could have it as an antique Oh perhaps we should buy it it's you two still really good and perhaps we should buy their employees as well yeah have a well Ivan oh yeah that's right we have Ivan although he didn't strictly speaking work for the tech tips team what the heck did Ivan do he was actually helping with a lot of scripts yeah end of the what's even getting paid for that oh well I don't know who's getting paid to do his job I don't know if that was like strictly part of his job description but he definitely helped a lot especially with like graphics card reviews and stuff right yeah love that guy so how's it going at linus Media Group I don't think we ever did a mid-year review for you yeah we do we didn't you know what did we that's probably the longest conversation we've had is one need you oh performance oh okay okay okay so how's it going are you happy I'm very happy you can tell them that you're not happy it's fine well now I'm stressed because this is like another mid reroute review right now no I'm having a great time honestly it's really good to be able to do the tech news code type of content again and make stupid jokes and yeah it's been fun I get to heckle you wait no I was I've always heckled you yes so that's a little more stressful is that now I'm getting heckled as well yeah I used to be able to do the show by myself and like have known it like they're all behind the camera like they can't say anything it's so funny so back in the NCIX tek-tips days I never watched their show so the only time I would watch net linked was when I was on it because I wanted to see like the goofball ways that they would edit it so you guys would have because I you guys might not might I don't know I don't know if you guys watched or not but what was kind of cool about NCIX tech tips was that we shot it on what was effectively a blue screen so what that meant was there was a lot of creativity in the editing where you could like take something that was done in the show and you could easily move it around manipulate it and blow it up and shrink it so so that was that was that was actually a really cool thing about do so many things it was sort of accidentally on purpose and I can explain the rationale behind why the entire NCIX tech tip studio was a new screen and agrees you had a set first you had like a background yeah look like a TV on it and stuff and then we kind of moved away from that and we went to blue and green screen paint even right like the the Rosco stuff yeah anyway so where was I going with that right so I would never watch the episodes that I wasn't in so I had always thought that the heckling because they would always give me crap when I was hosting the video and I would get and it's kits came about because I would give them crap about things I didn't like about the script or things that I did like but I just wanted to be mean to them and but and then they would dish it back to me and it kind of became this this fun dynamic you thought we did that all the time I thought I thought it was like a fundamental part - so anyway Riley comes in and hosts I think it was your first tech linked oh my gosh and I start like saying stuff that was horrible and he just like stops so Riley's like saying something and I'm like oh yeah you know your mom or whatever the first the first video that I was on with you you were hosting it and then her we were hosting it together or something and I just like didn't understand how to do things or did you do it for my first episode you did or maybe it was your second one or some things I don't remember that at all maybe I was out of the office for your first one but no there was one where I yelled stuff and you just like you just froze up every time and you would like are you gonna edit this out or and and so what do you would do is he would stop and he'd go back to the beginning of the paragraph because he's like trying to think of what his comeback is or when I had you yeah yeah yeah yeah here yeah that happened here just like are you doing what I don't understand I there's a script I'm supposed to read the script I only know how to dish it out I don't know how to take it that's exactly right that's exactly what the situation was so yeah it's been it's been a lot of fun kind of finding our finding our legs I think a couple of the episodes last week including one of the ones that I hosted we're just awful but we're still finding our rhythm I think actually the one that I hosted last week was the worst tech link that I've hosted yet well apparently speaking of twitch the one that I hosted where it's like or steam TV yes is twitch like that wouldn't well I don't I didn't do well anyways yeah I don't think that's it the funny thing about about twitch and game streaming and I think we talked about this before bits like I don't blame a video about twitch and or game streaming for not doing well because it's one of those things where like if you're into it then you're like oh yeah twitch yeah which is huge I love twitch and then if you're not into it I mean and you're the kind of person where I'll be at like a family reunion or something and I'm no and what do you do and I'm like oh I make I make videos on YouTube oh so you work for Google even if they even know that and I'm like yeah no I know I don't they're like oh so how do you get paid then I'm like well you know how busk you know how on TV like babe there's the commercial yeah okay like that okay it's definitely like I've told people that I make videos as a job a few times yeah they're just like and do you just do that for fun or yeah yeah sure yeah you know realistically you know what I could do something else I could bus tables so yes I'm doing this for fun it's that bad well your feet hurt you're on your feet a lot should we really I was only a busser only bus tables I didn't graduate to being a waiter I want to know the story here why did they not let you wait tables oh I don't think I ever want I didn't think I ever asked for it specific so he just never aspired to more than bussing it was Olive Garden do I understand it correctly have career aspirations at Olive Garden I see but well is this as much to do with Olive Garden being one of those places that kind of has a policy about who waits the tables well and what gender they are and how much boob they have hanging out oh no no no all of gardens not one of those I don't think so okay so it's not early thinking of hooters no no yeah a lot of people's I did not know that's not what I mean no I mean you've been to like cactus Club oh yeah yeah no Olive Garden is like they wear like ties and stuff they're very formed like the I will confess I don't think I have ever eaten it all in Cardin - tell it let me tell you something free breadsticks and you get a free and you get a soup or salad with every entree okay do you still work for all of you are you secretly are you a spy do you get a free soup with your are you a secret informant unlimited breadsticks it's very bad for you in my secret informant yeah okay so your bust tables mmm never graduated never finished the program and you know what I would like you to talk about the other job that you actually still have oh yeah why just because I think I think people would like to go and get their fix of Riley oh man okay okay so Riley actually only works here part-time not because we weren't willing to hire him full-time but because he actually has another job Wow as a secret informant I'm not the secret informant you aren't I know and this is not the real site it's not the site no it's can we try going to tattle calm remember its tattle now Oh secret informant sounds so much there you go so this is the actual site I guess okay tattle calm so the TAT separate informant though yeah secret informants the show sacred Foreman's the show the company is tattle this is some of the episodes and some other things you know what I where's my favorite one the one where you try like jujitsu or something oh that's probably not on here you have to go to the YouTube channel just click on a video really click on this and then go to videos okay it's gonna be there you go here we go this is Aikido this is my favorite episode these ads skip aah Oh take that Briley yeah so this is so basically this show is I had there's a secret informant from like a given culture this is Miho she was the Japanese secret Foreman so we went and did a Japanese thing and it basically just like I learned something about the culture usually it's eating food but this episode was me doing a martial art that's what it is it's this really you trying your best look I was half laughing this entire time because it's like a very very serious it's a very very serious discipline and I was like clearly like not like they're stretching I'm not very flexible they're like rolling and stuff I'm a big lanky awkward white guy it was great so I was kinda the instructor was white that's not the instructor anyways yep check it out if you wanna watch Riley get thrown around for 10 minutes it's like actually awesome oh man ah that's one of my favorite moments yep so yeah I'm here Monday Wednesday Friday though yep season 2 is out now right it's coming out it's coming to here in Episode four now go for three yeah anyways this is a tech show this is about tech news yeah that's the theory but when show is actually far less about tech news than you might think yes now that you're on it do you see how little about tech news it actually you know this is my second time hosting I was on with James yeah that time I think we were like we got to talk about the news kno I kno that I'm on with you I see that I don't care about technology at all I care about technology I don't care about the news secret informant mm-hmm um okay so we do actually have a couple of pretty big topics to talk about this yeah what do you what are the big time for everything this was posted by RC mail on the forum the original article is from ARS technica comm and this is some pretty pretty Garbo looking stuff that we got going on right here so the FCC basically according to a US Court can define markets with only a single Internet service provider as competitive which to me means that basically that court doesn't have like it's not the court of using the dictionary court you know yeah like it must be a different kind of court it's kind of like the court in Harry Potter when they go and they're convicting people for you know for for bad reasons you know - I actually rewatched the entire Harry Potter series not very long ago so yes so there's no what I'm talking about is they say it's there if they say it's not there so then they can say well then you're not right I which and if they say it is theirs then they can save their like I stole it and then right and convict them of stealing so they can either convict them of not being pureblood or whatever or of stealing or whatever or they asked them who they stole it from you went way deeper anyway Dolores Umbridge is a bad bad person you might say she's rich ha ha yep get it cuz I got it she's a witch anyway so an appeals court has upheld an FCC ruling that broadband markets can be competitive even when there is only one Internet provider so logic the original FCC decision was appealed by competitive local exchange carriers and purchasers of business broadband including sprint and windstream it's actually a little more nuanced - than it sounds though so this decision eliminated price caps in any given County if 50 percent of potential customers are within a half mile of a location served by a competitive provider so the FCC's position then is that nearby networks can close the half mile gap expanding into the areas in question so in theory if that raining single ISP is charging too much for service then that neighboring competitor should be financially incentivized to expand into the area man this is like really market sorts itself out typo yes so the FCC cited evidence that some competitors will build as far as a mile out and said that most of the buildings at issue are far closer to competitive fiber than half a mile mile the CLE sees position is that it's often not feasible for neighboring ISPs to expand into these areas and then the FCC argued that the CLE sees petitioners studies inflate costs by selecting the most expensive build entirely underground lines Pratt presuming that a separate lateral line for each into the presuming a separate lateral line for each individual low bandwidth customer and treating the main fiber ring as part of the cost of reaching new customers rather than as an existing sunk cost near potential new customer so there's conflicting evidence in the judge's ruling well we recognize the relevant data presents radically different pictures of the competitiveness of the market depending on the economic theory applied in the weight given to the conflicting pieces of inference but the FCC may rationally choose which evidence to believe okay too bad so they have denied the petitions for review as to the competitive market test because the FCC's resolution of competing evidence was not arbitrary and capricious so basically even if you only have one ISP to choose from your market can be considered competitive because there might be an ISP within half a mile that could build out to provide service I think that's really where the core of the issue lies is like if you have one is be to choose from you have one ISP to choose from it's not competitive just it's like saying that you don't actually have a choice well it's like saying that oh there's lots of competition here when there could be competition in the future you're you're acting as if a future is here already so I mean this is a really frustrating issue because on the one hand I am pretty free enterprise in general I'm a capitalist but the problem here is that while you can make these sort of free-market capitalist sort of arguments for why there shouldn't be a bunch of regulation on what the major ISPs can or cannot do how much they can or cannot charge their customers you can make those arguments but the problem is that that ship sailed like a hundred years ago hmm what do you mean at least maybe not a hundred years ago that ships you know not the Mayflower but the ship of having an unregulated market for telecommunications has already sailed I see so now have regulations so you have to regulate it because building up that infrastructure was a joint enterprise between the private and the public sector so because there was a public investment in it there have to be public rules and that infrastructure has to continue to serve the public it's already a done deal yeah and besides the alternative having just any Tom Dick and Harry be allowed to start their ISP without regulations and you know build put down fibre lines right or run copper wiring wherever they want it's anarchy I mean that's it's like when you go to a developing nation and you look at a telephone pole and you go my goodness that is a fire hazard because there's so many different lines running every which way there's no there's nothing to keep it under control yeah when you actually don't necessarily need that much if you've got cooperation of the companies that manage these lines and you've got a regulating body sitting over top making sure that everyone is playing fairly I mean I also I also see the argument from the perspective of like hey we should like set it up so that these companies are incentivized to expand their network and make things better but the problem is is that like you said well like you said there's already regulation and also internet is way more of a crucial part of everyday life life yeah 2018 so it's like these kind of rules I think are definitely a little backwards thing and the other issue with these with the sort of the market argument is that it makes a lot of very optimistic assumptions about the way that businesses will behave so the free-market argument for well there's an ISP nearby surely they could build out another half mile of fiber in order to access these customers so you could say well surely that's the way that a competitive company would behave right except that it might not be it might actually be much more profitable for that company to say hey we got a monopoly over here hey but you keep your monopoly over there we'll keep ours over here yeah neither of us will invest in any new fiber and we'll each just charge more because who you gonna go to and then they do one of these and I mean you saw something similar happen with the with the corporate tax breaks that recently happened in the u.s. like look I'm a business owner I would love if our my corporate tax rate was 21% it's a lot higher than that that would be super cool for me um who else would it be cool for the theory was it would be super cool for the customers and the employees who would definitely get those savings passed along to them in practice what we're really seeing is a lot of stock buybacks do you know what stock buybacks do they don't lower the price of the product for the customer so I can pretty much guarantee you that the new iPhone tenth that Apple unveils on September the 12th are not going to have a 10% price break mmm guarantee you that one um take that to the bank they do not go to the employees there were a couple of token wage increases that did occur but by and large that has not been the trend that everyone gets paid ten percent more so what a stock buyback does is it creates a shortage of the available stocks for that company because they are effectively buying their own stocks and stocks the pricing of a stock is entirely controlled by supply and demand so if a company is running out and buying back its own stocks what it is effectively doing is increasing the value of the stocks that are already held by shareholders so the shareholders are making money bearing in mind of course that any money you own in stocks is-is-is paper money it's theoretical money until you actually sell it for our currency but then again currencies can fluctuate far more these days than a lot of people would be comfortable with so you could you could again make the argument that paper money is also just just pay just paper money then you know maybe we should all just go back to gold I mean ya know going down a rabbit hole but the point is many of the stockholders the shareholders for these large publicly traded companies are the executives that works for them so who ended up getting paid when a company like and I actually know what I'm not going to use any specifics because I can't remember off the top of my head any that have participated in a great deal of buying back of stock but the people getting paid are the people who own shares and some of those people are members of the general public but this was pitched as some kind of a boon for the everyman and as a business owner I can tell you anyone out there who's trying to make the argument that business owners were going to take an extra an extra double-digit percentage of effective profits and and just go up in their Zeppelin and go and throw it out of this throw it out of rain it down on the people on the downtrodden yeah it's an idiot that's not how that's not capitalism works that's not what I would do right and that's not what anyone else would do because that's I'm what I'm kind of confused about is what is the what what is it in it for the FCC right yeah well done it for them by by making this ruling because obviously it's good for the ISPs this is where the government's interest in doing this this is where the rabbit-hole quite frankly goes a lot deeper than I'm familiar with because it's like I don't know the intricacies of the way that all of these agencies interact with each other and there's a lot of people that I kind of look look at what they're doing and I go what's motivating you to say the things you're saying right now or do the things you're doing right now like are there are there pictures of you like with goats like like I mean very compromising very compromising photographs notes yeah like naked you know like shaved goats and like whipped cream all over the place like I just look man if somebody wants to hang out with 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I'm gonna read them I'm gonna read them I really should have had the twitch open but now yellow havoc says my first live web show thank you guys for all the hours I've spent watching no no thank you for the hours you've spent watching because wait the hours that you've spent watching we you're thanking us for that no no no no yeah yeah wait okay thank you yellow havoc um okay why don't we actually do at least one more tech topic here because I really wanted to talk about this rumor ooh so this was posted by eighth and immortal on the forum and it's originally from hard OCP is it juicy rumors you see rumor no and the article basically says that nvidia is controlling the ability of at inboard partners so that's your a soos is gigabytes EVGA x' of the world msi they're controlling add-in board partners abilities to seed RTX cards to the press for independent evaluation through driver distribution I thought you told me you didn't want to talk about this now we could talk about this okay I didn't think it was great for tech linked because I think it's a little bit more nuanced right and we have time in about okay whatever so a comparison is being made here to the GeForce partner program we're in Verdean video was exerting control over their AI B's and OEM brands right with the GeForce partner program so now it's exerting control over who the EA Bay AIB can have review their own custom cards so Nvidia has asked that the AI B's tell Nvidia who will be reviewing their custom RT X 20 80 and 20 80 TI cards and they have asked for reviewers email and phone numbers so like they want to know who specifically from that publication will be reviewing it yes interesting so with the list of reviewers have been submitted to Nvidia and then NVIDIA has put together its own list of approved reviewers and sent their approved list back to let them know who they are allowed to sample cards too so they are not allowing the AI bees to distribute drivers with the review cards for a reviewer to have access they must sign in videos multi-year NDA login to portal to obtain the driver and download from there onto a machine with the new r-tx card present is like a whole nother level of of kind of sketchiness because it's not just Nvidia telling reviewers who can review their cards it's Nvidia telling the card makers who can review the card makers cards ahead of lunch right so honestly nothing here really raises alarm bells for me we signed in videos NDA we talked about this on the land show before there's nothing particularly odious in there like it's it's a pretty bog-standard NDA the same kind that we would have to sign with pretty much anyone the same kind that doesn't prevent us once the card is out there in the public from saying everything we want about it like it's you know it's has stuff in there about not reverse-engineering the product and like all the same kind of thing if you were to get a sample from Apple Intel AMD there would be a very similar NDA to sign and Bayer driver download portal they've been using that for at least a couple of years now so that's not new and you already had to provide Nvidia with an email address and a login so that they could authorize you for the portal we've never had trouble getting that going so I got first glance this seems like whoa this is legally if he or whatever not even legally if it just practice in practice normal the only way that Nvidia the only way Nvidia can enforce this is for pre-launch reviews and it is very typical in order to avoid leaks so this is but this is only for before launch yes once the card launches anybody can grab it and do it of course of course yeah you could go to the store buy an RT X whatever the crap and review it do you want me to do that no I don't because we're gonna have Anthony do it because he's far more qualified okay so this is one where I you know on the one hand I I've given Nvidia flack many times many times at least a dozen times about what I call their cloak-and-dagger BS around their launches and not talking about the comics where no no we're we're basically you know they'll do stuff like they'll invite us to an event but we can't tell you you know what's gonna be there or you know whether you should bring a camera operator right or and I'm kind of like look it's a graphics card okay what what day are you giving us the actual information do I need a camera operator there is there gonna be an internet connection can I live stream is there an embargo lift does it lift immediately when you guys announce it or does it lift the next day I need to know this information so I can do my job but line is it it might not just be a graphics card it might be a fully new you know experience yeah sure tracing my frustration with them for the most part is that I want to be able to do my job with the flip side being and I've had the same conversations with AMD Intel pretty much you name it and so my frustrations are probably like I think they're fair but then I also understand the other side where they can't they can't run around or they can't have people who are not getting briefed on the product correctly who might be running you pre-release hardware and or pre-release drivers who don't necessarily understand the full story because it is actually important to get a briefing on something that's not out yet there might be stuff that's not working yet but the fix is coming hey guys don't test that till the day before we're gonna have something for you but it's not quite there yet that's also why you don't really want to pay too much attention to all these like leaks benchmarks that come out and stuff because it's like they're probably running on optimized software and the other issue is that part of this full control over the launch thing that these companies do is about creating a fair and level playing field so if Nvidia were to allow someone who is not authorized to review the RT X 2080 or the 2080 ti if there were two if there were to be some way for that person to get a card and a driver ahead of the launch that website or that YouTube channel that publication could go live with a full review right that may or may not be based on actual finished software so might paint the product in an unnecessarily either positive or negative I mean there have been situations where performance was greater right and then had something had to be fixed that ended up negatively affecting performance so people might not be getting an accurate representation of the performance and it puts everyone else who's playing by the rules and releasing their their reviews once the NDA lifts at a disadvantage because everyone will already at least think we know how the product performs so basically saying put yourself in Nvidia shoes and maybe consider if I wouldn't say that but I wouldn't mind being in Nvidia shoes how many billions of dollars revenue ok well but but consider for a second I mean like they are a big company there's lots of big companies that act in their own self-interest but like consider for a second that there is a decent you know reason for them doing this kind of thing I'd like to know what did it what is it that I ignored during my read ignore - ignored the whole chat with his rant oh yeah sorry somebody said let Riley rake make a review video just kidding um you don't want me actually I think Riley's gonna be working on an l TT video in the near future working on we're not gonna tell you guys exactly exactly what's going on so anyway final conclusion Nvidia controls AIB launched totally get it I wish that review embargoes weren't a thing at all perfect to be perfectly honest with you I wish that they just said okay here it is here's the product here's the driver right go that would be ideal but I also understand why companies feel like they have to do this crap however frustrating that might be for me as a member of the media GeForce Partner Program was terrible basically terrible this is not that this is it's it's far less terrible it's it's very annoying hmm but potentially necessary uh well no I don't think any of it is I think it is necessary for NVIDIA to protect its own interests right okay well necessary not necessary like for things like this to exist in the universe it is this is not especially helpful for consumers getting an accurate understanding of the performance of the product Wow but that's because the drivers aren't there yet unless they are see in this case is there I don't have an RT X card right I don't have our TX drivers I know I don't I don't know how done or not done any of this is I don't know who we're getting our TX cards from I don't know when they're coming no for real I'm serious so I'm just I'm just so so I'm just saying like all of this stuff is very frustrating very annoying and we wish it wasn't a thing but for whatever reason companies do this stuff and in videos is not is not that much worse if any worse than what other companies do it just it just kind of is what is your Nvidia Stan Nvidia Stan yeah is that a country is it is it fully illuminated Stan is like a you know what if Stan is like if you're a Stan of the country no no no that's like oh you Stan Nvidia Stan yeah so I go on the internet it's an internet term okay like a fan sure no yeah yeah I know so you hate in video no what no it's nothing in life is that black and white oak I mean we've been accused of bias every way which is which is great my favorite but this is my favorite thing to read hmm I'm going through the comments on a video and I got one comment why this clearly was Intel biased in this video yeah and literally the next comment is Wow his AMD bias is on display for the entire world I'm gonna go on your bias yeah you're biased for both I think we're riding it just right at that point as long as yeah as long as like people people are always gonna agree you're biased but if they can agree that you're biased for everybody then I think then I think we're doing a pretty good job nice now who's not doing a good job this was originally posted by rascal over on the forum and I I actually - I want to say I deserve credit for getting this article huge cuz I tweeted this like right when it came out I saw it pop up and I tweeted it on the tech week count and then like an hour later gamers Nexus put a thing up so I was like okay yeah I'm sure right on my coattails bringing it to the attention of the public I'm sure that given all of the understanding that you have of how video scripting and and editing and encoding and uploading works that that they surely did see your tweet yep and turn out that video in one hour what can I say for sure for sure gamers Nexus did that I can't believe this article is still up yeah you take it down you think this page this page Tom's heart broke calm / news / Nvidia r-tx GPUs worth the money comma comma three seven six eight nine HTML you would think this page would redirect to a gigantic we're sorry at this point so it is clearly labeled opinion piece yeah but honestly I read through it and I thought it was like a parody because everyone everyone says when new graphics cards and stuff are announced Hey okay but wait for the reviews you know it's like hold on you don't want to be wasting your money on a new car is announced yeah a new game is an especially games but but like don't pre-ordering and then and that's what everyone saying and then Tom's Hardware it's like just buy it I got a hot taste so their defense is paper thick so this was written by their editor-in-chief to like that's just brutal you know I will say like Tom's Hardware seems to like most of the time they have pretty good I don't know I find it oh I don't I don't go there like a ton but like when I do go there it seems to be like a decent site that I was like good opinions decent for getting like a spec sheet right okay so this is good they actually have added a note here as with all of our op eds the opinions expressed here belong to the writer alone and not Tom Tiber as a team this article is a counterpoint to Derek for us equally worthy see that kind of makes sense why you well cuz it's like oh we can't be worthy not okay it's not equally worthy this is worthless we encourage readers to check out both articles form their own opinions and share feedback in the comments section below oh yeah fair enough but it's fair of them to emp'd some sort of like point/counterpoint type thing firing line if you will left versus right you know no let's let's have a dialogue this is a bet this is one of those okay so just like just like the conversation we were having earlier where I see arguments being made out in the wild that I just go you know are we are we really talking here yeah re are your earholes kind of are they working you know are they is it making it there what's going on here like this is the kind of argument that you you can't you can't make yeah it's it's it's dumb it's bad like it's got it's actually got a subheading called the real cost of buying outdated tech like the cost there's not a cost of buying outdated tech my my or did you scroll past that that's my favorite line right there when your whole life flashes before your eyes how much of it do you want to not have ray-tracing like what's the point what's the point of living without ray-tracing are you quitting bezel is done what's that are you saying bye okay bye I'll see you I'll see you at the airport right Airport okay are you on the same plane as me do people know where we're going I don't know oh yeah so so this is fun um anyway should say this article is laughable and it is undefensible undefensible in defending whatever Nick make it cannot defendable it cannot be defended you should never buy anything without without independent evaluation or like trying it first like that's why you test drive a car that's why you don't just pre-order a roadster to Rafina or whatever it is and then you see PC Gamer actually it's not linked in the in the yeah in the description but did you see that article no I did you see gamer actually put up he he was like he referenced gamers Nexus and he referenced Tom's Hardware and he's like okay but hold on a second what about this what if there's a return policy and you're like I want I know I'm gonna get this card I know I'm then go for it so what if there's a 30-day return policy and you have like a thousand bucks to drop and you don't care so the problem with the IT industry and this was true at our old employer as well is that a lot of the time there's a there's like a restocking fee like returning electronics like graphics cards is not necessarily as simple as a pair of pants at the gap or whatever so as long as you believe that you can get rid of it and you have the disposable money sitting around fine but that wasn't the argument because the problem was that this argument for doing that it's just buy it just try it like when I'm 99 years old and I'm lying on my deathbed yes and I'm thinking back and I'm saying like oh my gosh I didn't have ray-tracing for six months what was the right choice deep learning that's the other big feature right are the ray tracing and ELSS yeah um there's a bunch of other topics this week but you didn't know that um Lego built a life-size drivable Bugatti from over a million Technic pieces yeah that's pretty cool you should probably go check that out bippity Boppity is something along Libi blah blee bloo there you go yep I mean it doesn't go fast of course cuz it's you know made of Technic but it looks really cool so that's pretty sick like nice job guys yep and now what ah there's pictures leaked of the iPhone XS yeah we talked about that our tackling today 10s excess of 10s I think think it's gonna be 10s so which is that I would say that's kind of annoying to me because OS 10 like it's it's used you're right it OS X but at least there's no other numbers in there well there's no other numbers in this one wait s is not a number but that's fine oh you're right um and I guess that uh that leads us to the end of the show so on the subject of getting tax breaks and not spending it on your employees Linus media group actually did get a big tax break and is actually spending it on all of its employees so over the next week or so you're probably going to notice some differences in our content lineup - tech tips videos will continue to be published throughout all of next week as we'll tech quickie videos but tech linked and the LAN show because they are same-day productions are not going to be going up next week because well I mean how do you do it yeah the entire team is taking a vacation and all expenses paid vacation - should I say where we're going I don't know no I didn't say it weird people gonna show up you know what let's say where we went after we get there yeah I love that I might have already said where we were going I don't know we are heading into the ether anyway we are 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